0-10V dimming Explained - What is 0-10 volt dimming? How does it work? Installation of 0-10v

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0-10V dimming Explained - What is 0-10 volt dimming? How does it work? Installation of 0-10 volt dimmer switches explained
High output led fixtures and corn light bulbs cannot be dimmed with traditional dimmers that restrict the power.
Luckily there is a simple and elegant way to dim LED light fixtures such as LED High Bay Lights and LED Parking Lot Lights. Zero to ten volt ( 0-10 volt) dimming is a great solution for this. There is a lot to understand and this video explains most of it.
0-10 is a DC voltage that tells the light how bright to get. Send a 10 and get 100%. Send a 5 and get 50%. Simple and elegant when you understand it
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@bluefloyd6058 5 жыл бұрын

Curious and would like to add the dimmable feature to my high bay Led fixtures but they have 8 Philips ballast total. Any recommendations? Thanks In advance for your suggestions.

@TwinQuan 4 жыл бұрын

Got some lutron lights and the voltage input is 277 and reading 120v on the gray & purple. Any idea what's going on? Thanks

@hhn2002 2 жыл бұрын

Great thank you

@gonzalez7805 Жыл бұрын

You answered my question.... Will an led on a dimmer switch use less power... Thank you

@SnareMan 4 жыл бұрын

Found this from your amazon review on the Lutron switch. Thanks

@LedLightExpert 4 жыл бұрын

Glad our video helped!

@SnareMan 4 жыл бұрын

Too bad I didn't run the extra wires from the LED ceiling lights so I ended up just putting a regular switch in.

@LedLightExpert 4 жыл бұрын

@@SnareMan There is some wireless 0-10v switches out there with a small battery powered controller you connect to the dimmer wires and mount near the light. It sends the dimming signal to the switch so you do not have to run the wires all the way from the light to the switch. I'm sure the switch will be more expensive, but with so many smart controls out there these days, you can likely find something like this at a decent price. As long as it is LED 0-10v compatible, you should be fine.

@chadbrazzy9014 2 жыл бұрын

can we get a close up on the dimmer wiring to the fixture? my dimmer switch and fixture looks identical. ty

@LedLightExpert 2 жыл бұрын

You can check out our learning center page with a wiring diagram that should be pretty consistent for 0-10V dimming setups: www.ledlightexpert.com/Dimming-High-Lumens-LED-0-10v_ep_43-1.html. There is plenty of configurations, like when adding multiple lights, 3-way switches, or standalone 1-10V dimming that only controls the dimming, not on/off function. Dimmer switches should come with wiring diagrams which is what you need to follow, along with electrical code, when wiring up your fixture based on your specific application. If you are having trouble with a specific switch/fixture combo, we suggest you contact the manufacturer of either or both products.

@michaelgasperik4319 5 жыл бұрын

Led light expert, I'm trying to figure out, does a 0-10 volt dimmer drop line voltage down to 0-10 volts? Or is this "signal" just something that the driver understands and not actual voltage? I'm trying to build a 0-12 volt dc motor speed control, but 0-10 volts would work too. I would run the low voltage through a bridge rectifier and would require about 1 amp of current. Would one of these dimmers work? Thanks in advance!

@troyparish7052 5 жыл бұрын

I'm really new to this, but I think the dimming pair is just a signal that the LED driver decides to know how bright to burn the panel (maybe applying PWM?) The panel I have will burn full brightness with the Grey/Violet open and unconnected, and will shut off with them shorted. AFAIK the LED panel is bring powered by the 120v line voltage in this setup.

@josiahgrunwald6729 3 жыл бұрын

How do u wire these with a three way? What wire do u run from switch to switch?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

That will depend on the 0-10v dimmer switch you use. You will need to make sure the switched being used is 3-way compatible and refer to the instructions from the switch manufacturer for the wiring diagram for 3-way use.

@denttech2515 6 жыл бұрын

If I have 4 shop lights in series or paralles, can I use 1 dimmer to control them all at once. If so, how would you wire them? Can't find this info anywhere. Plan on getting 2x4 CCT flat panel lights with lifud drivers I would really appreciate any feedback. Thanks

@LedLightExpert 6 жыл бұрын

you can wire them on all one dimmer, just go in series. We're not fans of lifud drivers though, so would suggest something better

@denttech2515 6 жыл бұрын

Led Light Expert thanks a lot for your reply. If you don't mind, why not lifud and what driver would you recommend? Last question

@LedLightExpert 6 жыл бұрын

Our panels use a Keystone driver. American company that designs their own power supplies. Meanwell is the best, but a bit pricey for panels. UVL is also good. The light brand means alot too, but many drivers are private labeled (labeled same as panel) and you have to trust the brand. Use a US brand panel and avoid headaches later.

@mikeybreaks2799 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Q. If I have 2 dimmable fixtures, should I wire the 10v circuit in series or parallel? Thx

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

Parallel will be fine for 2 fixtures with 0-10V dimming on standard commercial LED fixtures.

@tommyfournier7028 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, can I use a 0-10vdc DF10p dimmer switch from Eaton with a lithonia lighting LED ballast? Is the ballast only for lithonia dimmer?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the specs for each product. LEDs use drivers, not ballasts, so I suspect you are referring to the LED driver and not all LED drivers are the same so your best bet is to contact the manufacturer if you do not have the specs to confirm. If the driver is 0-10v dimming compatible and you are using a 0-10V LED compatible dimmer, I don't see any reason why they would not work.

@tommyfournier7028 3 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert Thanks, I have try and the light are just very little powered. I try to correct this situation with the rotative gradator and dimmer on the switch, but the light still just powered a very little....All connexion are alright, and I have 120vAC on the output of the accudriver blue and ground same as with the red one. Is there suppose to be 10 VDC current on this LED input?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

@@tommyfournier7028 Unfortunately, I do not know the specific wiring colors on those products which is why I suggest you reach out to the manufacturers of those products for specifics. Driver output should be in VDC and none of your dimming wiring should be done on the output side of the driver. These products should have come with wiring diagrams. You can see a basic wiring diagram for 0-10V LED dimming on our learning center page here that might help: www.ledlightexpert.com/Dimming-High-Lumens-LED-0-10v_ep_43-1.html.

@tuelectricista115 3 жыл бұрын

Do i have run control wire to each driver to the switch if I'm dimming let's say 3 lights or can I go from driver to driver then to the switch

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

You can wire the dimming leads in parallel with each other. You do not need to run a separate set of wires back from each light to your dimmer switch.

@recoveryfishing364 2 жыл бұрын

So a daisy chain from the switch to each fixture with 18 gauge wire?

@fredyrey3657 Жыл бұрын

have 6 led panels and installed then on one 0-10v dimmer but i need 1 of the led panel to be on at night how can i do it thanks

@LedLightExpert Жыл бұрын

That panel will have to be run to it's own switch. All lights on a single switch have the same behavior, so it can't be done on one. They make dusk to dawn capable wall switches, but you will need to run the wiring to that separate switch.

@arnelarches1645 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a limit to the number of fixtures you can connect to one 0-10V switch? Can you use one 0-10v switch for fixtures connected to different circuit?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the switch you use. Basic 0-10v switches typically have a 8-10 amp maximum but more robust systems can go up from there. If you are just dimming and not controlling the on/off of the light, you can usually run far more lights on a single switch (some of the basic Lutron switches can handle up around 25 lights for dimming, the switch just might need to be on a different circuit that the lights so you do not go over the amp max on the AC power side of the switch so the switch will not control the on/off of the lights). You just have to check the specs on the dimmer switch you decide to use.

@callapygian 2 жыл бұрын

do you have to run different/extra wire for 0-10v dimmers?

@michaellawler6110 3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to use this setup with existing wiring (hot, neutral, ground)? I don't see how to get the 0-10v signal to the lamp without running new wires. Am I missing something?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

0-10V dimming uses a separate set of low voltage wires which would need to be run to the dimmer switch or controller, separate from the hot, neutral and ground wires. These wires would come from the fixture or LED driver that uses 0-10V dimming. You either need to run the dimming wires back to the control/switch or find a wireless 0-10V setup where the dimming wires are connected to a wireless transmitter that can be mounted close to the light.

@michaellawler6110 3 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert Thanks for the information. I was afraid that was the case. I guess new homes will be wired this way, but in the case of my old house, fishing those extra leads just isn't worth the effort. Can you recommend a wireless 0-10v unit?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaellawler6110 Nothing we specifically recommend with wireless options, you would probably need to check around and find one with features you are looking for. I would start with some of the big names like Lutron and Leviton for controls.

@michaellawler6110 3 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert You have been a great help! Thanks.

@wring4425 5 жыл бұрын

Can 0-10v wiring be mixed with line voltage wiring in the same raceway between the switch and the fixture?

@LedLightExpert 5 жыл бұрын

technically yes, but you run the risk of signal interference.(altering the volts in the low voltage, alters the dimming) If your wires and the connectors are well shielded it will be fine, just usually safer to keep seperate if unsure of shielding. Hope that helps.

@FLASHBANGxMOMZ 2 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert AC line voltage cannot be ran in the same raceway as low voltage per NEC. Class 1 and class 2 circuits cannot share raceway

@elsa_g 2 жыл бұрын

@@FLASHBANGxMOMZ How does that fit in with the 12/2 MC cables with luminaire wires? The regular voltage conductors are in the same MC as the conductors carrying the 0-10V signal.

@supernova8962 3 ай бұрын

@@elsa_g 1 year later MC-PCS Duo is now available.

@elsa_g 3 ай бұрын

@@supernova8962 this is what I was talking about, it’s been available and in use for years. It’s an MC with all the wires together in the metal, with the two control wires also jacketed with some insulation, but they’re all still in the same raceway.

@drumbangerproduction 5 жыл бұрын

are there any that are flicker free?

@JohnSmith-ds7oi Жыл бұрын

No. 3 years later and still no solution.

@whogivesacrapaboutastupidc2313 5 жыл бұрын

The piece of information I'm trying to find is; can one bypass the 0-10v dimming?...does it have to be hooked up to something...do you just twist the positive and negative together?

@LedLightExpert 5 жыл бұрын

in our lights you just leave the dimming wires capped off and the dimming is bypassed. The light will default to full brightness. Do NOT let them touch. Just tape them up and out of the way.

@longhair1016 5 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert Thanks LLE, for tip on bypassing the dimmer switch ,not an electriction,first time using LED panel light .

@LedLightExpert 5 жыл бұрын

@@longhair1016 - Happy our video helped. Feel free to reach out to us with any LED lighting needs.

@elsa_g 2 жыл бұрын

For anybody who might be troubleshooting, IME touching the small purple and grey (or for new stuff they're changing the grey wire to pink) wires together will cause the light to dim down to its minimum setting. So if your lights are so dim they almost look like they're off, and you can't get them bright, those wires may have been connected together at some point.

@mramerica4749 3 жыл бұрын

I purchased a 100watt ufo dimmable light, does it require the dim switch to turn on? Mine is not turning on and I am not sure if it’s defective or I need the dim switch.

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

Without knowing anything about the light, it's hard to tell you where the problem is. If it is a LED with 0-10V/1-10V dimming, the on/off function should be controlled with your hot, neutral and ground wires from the fixture and have nothing to do with the dimming. If not dimming, the dimming wires are left alone and capped off and should not affect on/off function. Best suggestion is to get a voltmeter on your input power at the fixture to make sure the fixture is getting the proper power it is rated for and contact the manufacturer of the light if you are still having trouble.

@mramerica4749 3 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert okay sounds good, thank you. I was thinking after words, I altered the size to make it fit in my photo booth, could that have to do with the it not turning on. I know I did not drop or break anything, the dimmer wires are capped. I only altered the aluminum frame.

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

@@mramerica4749 If you altered the housing, it could cause electrical issues along with affecting things like heat dissipation, depending on the product you are using. If you tested the light right out of the box and it worked but no longer works, I would guess the alteration caused a problem. Only sure fire way to test would be to confirm your input AC voltage to the LED driver and the output DC voltage from the driver to the LEDs and compare that to the manufacturer specs for the driver. One way or another, contacting the light manufacturer is going to be your best bet.

@mramerica4749 3 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert I was a rookie, I didn’t even check to see if it worked, I assumed it would work. I will keep that in mind, I think I will purchase another light similar but smaller, and see how that works. Thank you for your help!

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

@@mramerica4749 My pleasure, happy to help! If you are looking for some UFOs, we have a few different options: www.ledlightexpert.com/UFO-High-Bay-Light_c_31.html. You are also welcome to give us a call at 800-674-9420 and one of our reps can work with you on the specifics you are looking for and see if we can find one that will fit your needs and size requirements.

@coachliu32 2 жыл бұрын

@LEDLIGHTEXPERT are you aware of a 0-10v smart dimmer that runs on WIFI? I can't seem to locate a smart switch of this kind anywhere?

@LedLightExpert 2 жыл бұрын

I would start with the major controls manufacturers like Lutron and Leviton, but there is plenty of options out there. A call to either of those would be a good place to start to find a switch that fits your specific needs with Wifi.

@coachliu32 2 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert Thank you. I reached out to both and unfortunately it doesn't exist today per either of them. You'd have to combine two-three pieces of equipment and build your own. Only place i found one was Alibaba and was hoping you may know of a domestic company. Regardless, appreciate your video and the response. Thanks again.

@the.thinking.failure 3 жыл бұрын

Is 0-10V dimming/line voltage the same as reverse phase dimming?

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

No, these are completely different dimming formats. Make sure you pay attention to the product you are using and the dimming format it uses. Most high output and commercial LED products are 0-10V dimming.

@JohnSmith-ds7oi Жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert No they aren't. He's right. You're just using standard phase dimming like he said and pretending it's something else.

@LedLightExpert Жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-ds7oi 0-10V dimming is definitely different from phase dimming. Phase dimming is common for older lighting technologies and can be found with some low output, typically residential, LED lighting products, like a bulb in a desk lamp or recessed can light. Phase dimming is on the AC side of a lighting circuit and simply put, modifies the VAC power input delivered to the load. High output and commercial LED products, like warehouse lights, parking lot lights and more, use drivers (power supply) that needs steady VAC input voltage and phase dimming will cause all sorts of problems and very likely damage the LED driver if used. 0-10V dimming is handled by adjusting the output from the driver to the LEDs in VDC and is handled separately from the VAC input power by the LED driver, thus the need for separate 0-10V dimming wires that are needed for dimming with 0-10V dimming. There is plenty of resources online for more information about 0-10V dimming vs froward or reverse phase dimming.

@mouaadhyaichi842 3 жыл бұрын

How do i dim street light led by 0-10 volts using Arduino,please

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend asking for help among the Arduino community for programming and hardware information to use with 0-10V dimming with LEDs.

@troyparish7052 5 жыл бұрын

At 1:35 you mention that 10v = full bright and 0v = full dim. Isn't the opposite true? The LED panels I'm using will burn full brightness with the Gy/Vi pair open and will turn off when the pair is shorted. I can get anywhere in between with a 100k potentiometer between them. So my thinking is that if the Negative dimming pin is seeing 0v (open connection) from the positive dimming pin, I'm getting full brightness. If it sees 10v, I'm getting full dimming. I'm new to this, if my thinking's off, please let me know as I'm trying to understand how it all works.

@joedoll3162 4 жыл бұрын

The negative (Gray) dimming pin is considered the reference. By definition, it always "sees" 0V. The positive (Violet) pin is at +10V when disconnected. When the pair is shorted, the positive pin is forced to 0, not the other way around. Thus, the video description is correct.

@JohnBalogh 4 жыл бұрын

www.lutron.com/en-US/Education-Training/Documents/10V.pdf

@wubby415 2 жыл бұрын

Why does my light go off when I splice my 0-10 ?

@LedLightExpert 2 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure what you mean here, it sounds like you are splicing your 0-10V dimming wires together which you should not be doing. They either get connected to the correct dimmer switch contacts or they should be left capped off and not making contact with each other at all. We have a wiring diagram on our learning center page for 0-10V dimming: www.ledlightexpert.com/Dimming-High-Lumens-LED-0-10v_ep_43-1.html

@ktownc936 2 жыл бұрын

Man for the life of me I can't figure it out. I want to power a 3 watt star LED replacement for my microscope on a dimmer switch. I want to use a regular 12 volt input, not the 5 volt original. Can I buy something to achieve this ?

@LedLightExpert 2 жыл бұрын

0-10V dimming is the standard for high output LED fixtures and the on/off control is designed for commercial fixtures running on AC power. The DC side if this is just for the low voltage dimming controls that are integrated into the LED driver. Best thing we can recommend for what you are trying to do is speak with the manufacturer of the LED product you are using to find out what options and dimming format they support and products they have or could suggest for your application that meets the needs of what you are trying to do.

@ktownc936 2 жыл бұрын

@@LedLightExpert thanks for the reply, it's appreciated.

@supernova8962 3 ай бұрын

5 years Later... LED lighting has gotten so much better with high voltage circuitry...you don't require low voltage dimmer switches anymore

@LedLightExpert 3 ай бұрын

we'll agree to disagree. 1. low voltage for dimmers has not changed, still required if you want to dim led lights above about 15 watts. Only thing that has changed in the last 5 years since this video is that they are all mostly 1-10v, which climates dim to off for safety reasons. 2. The high voltage circuitry in led lights is a cost cutting move that has risks associated, particularly for outdoor and higher wattage fixtures. Using non isolated drivers (150-500v dc) puts more strain on the board and reduces surge protection. We have an article on that here www.ledlightexpert.com/isolated-vs-non-isolated-led-drivers

@zeddpilsner4 Жыл бұрын

The audio quality could use improvement if this video is ever remade.

@vladz7454 5 жыл бұрын

I am pointing to a mistake in explanation.... Dimmer does not "send" 0-10V to the LED panel driver, this is just a variable resistor. It will shunt voltage provided by LED panel driver down to whatever brightness you are desired from the LED panel. Think about, what if you are not connecting any dimmer to LED panel... Will it go 100% without you "sending" 10V to it? Yes, it will.

@nidavis 5 жыл бұрын

I think that's because it was explained backwards. Sending 0 volts means no dimming, sending 10v means full dimming. That is why when there is no dimmer there is no dimming (always 0 volts in that case). Shorting the wires gives full dimming.

@chrisa9373 7 ай бұрын

See, now THIS is electronics. I have been all over the interwebs looking for specific info on this 0-10vdc dimming deal. In every scenario, it seems these folks all read the same marketing literature, and changed a few words for originality sake. They all make it sound like I gotta send a variable dc voltage to the respective 2 dim wires. To further confuse the situation, the "dimming switches" are hooked to line power, leading one to think that there is AC/DC conversion going on inside a dimmer switch - perhaps explaining the exorbitant price? So, if this is just a pot, what would the correct ohm range be? Say all I wanted was a knob to turn a variable resistor like an old school dimmer pot? Shouldn't this be a published spec somewhere? Do I need to take my fluke DVM up to home depot and taker one out of the box and measure it? LOL.

@dwoodog 3 жыл бұрын

Would have been better to start from scratch with showing us the hook up of the wires.

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

We have plans to do a more in depth dimming video in the future and we'll keep that in mind for the video. When it comes to the wiring on the switch, there is so many different manufacturers out there, different functions and more robust systems, the best thing to do when it comes to figuring out the wiring is to check the wiring diagram for the switch or controller you are using to make sure you are making the proper connections.

@nastyjawa6101 4 жыл бұрын

Fix your mic

@LedLightExpert 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, sorry about that. We have since purchased 2 new mics. So our new videos have better audio - The section in this video is clear 75ft away - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLmpldOlppyqcZc.html (*and not a foot more before the wiresless would cut out)

@APOOLE86 3 жыл бұрын

Please get a mic, couldn’t listen to it.

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of our older videos, we've gotten a mic since and have used it on a few of our newer videos. Have never had any trouble with the sound on this video before though, we've sent plenty of customers this way and they've all been quite happy with the help after seeing this video. Might try a different audio source if you are having trouble with the sound. If you have any questions, feel free to give us a call, 800-674-9420.

@waldrobfarms3946 3 жыл бұрын

cant hear/understand anything you said. Advice: slow down, get a better mic.

@LedLightExpert 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of our earlier videos before we had a good mic setup, check out our newer videos for better quality sound.

@JohnSmith-ds7oi Жыл бұрын

0-10V isn't a dimmer. Your dimmer is just some cheap triac.

@LedLightExpert Жыл бұрын

The dimmer used in the video is a 0-10V dimmer from Lutron, the Diva Series DVSTV 0-10V dimmer, not a Triac dimmer, feel free to look it up with Lutron for confirmation and they have plenty of information about 0-10V dimming. Phase dimming is uncommon with any high output or commercial LED products and will destroy LED drivers if used and lead to a driver, or complete fixture, needing to be replaced when they require 0-10V dimming. Many high output commercial LED products can also use PWM dimming as well, but it is far less commonly used vs 0-10V dimming.