0-150-0 Speed Test 2023 | Car and Driver
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Hitting 150 mph is tough. Stopping from 150 mph is even more punishing. Which is why we decided to do both, back to back.
00:00 Intro
01:44 History and testing methodology
03:43 Honda Civic Type R, 52.7 sec
04:50 Hyundai Elantra N, 47.0 sec
05:49 Volkswagen Golf R, 40.2 sec
06:46 Bentley Bentayga S, 32.8 sec
07:50 Kia EV6 GT, 31.2 sec
08:43 Toyota GR Supra, 31.1 sec
09:34 Ford Mustang Dark Horse, 29.7 sec
11:07 Bentley Continental GT Speed, 24.8 sec
12:07 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, 24.7 sec
13:09 Porsche 911 GT3 RS, 24.4 sec
14:33 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 22.5 sec
15:56 Porsche 911 Turbo S, 19.3 sec and 200 mph
19:02 Where's the Tesla Model S Plaid and Lucid Air Sapphire?
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@CarlosLago 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! Be sure to read the story for more information, technical details, and video each car's run: www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a45765297/0-150-0-mph-speed-test-2023/ Wondering why your favorite car wasn't included? Chances are we invited it and it wasn't available. We tried!
@Flooberjobby 5 ай бұрын
So what you're telling me is these numbers mean absolutely nothing because you didn't eliminate driver factor and just focus on the cars performance?
@CarlosLago 5 ай бұрын
@@Flooberjobby That's the thing about cars: Someone has to drive them.
@C-Los68 5 ай бұрын
Too bad there weren't any tuner based cars in this test, like back in '98.
@johnyc2744 5 ай бұрын
Hitting 150 mph is tough. Stopping from 150 mph is even more punishing. Yeah...dumb logic.
@VK6AB- 5 ай бұрын
Your RS time to 150mph is very off beam, something very wrong there e.g. 19s, my 991.2 GT3 RS does it in just over 16. Should have had the 991 GT2 RS on as well, 0-150mph in about 12s.
@sleepeatdrive7619 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how that Turbo S will no problem go over 200 MPH again and again and again!!!
@llavero5 5 ай бұрын
What is crazy exactly, My toaster toasts every morning and I'm not impressed. You think the car would exploit at 200mph or something?
@garosama4517 5 ай бұрын
@@llavero5 EVs left the chat
@llavero5 5 ай бұрын
@@garosama4517 It's not very useful to do that non stop anyway.
@nitishgupta5959 5 ай бұрын
@@llavero5habibi come to Germany
@BurnsRubber 5 ай бұрын
Not just 0-200mph. 0-200-0 again and again and…
@BhutJolokias 5 ай бұрын
Interesting days when you can bring an Elantra to a 0-150-0 speed test.
@hamie63_m 5 ай бұрын
I know right.. And a boxy EV Kia
@petermello55 5 ай бұрын
Yeah thing was impressive for hyaundai
@wbwayne8887 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they didn't bring the even quicker DCT version. It would have shaved some time off it's final numbers.
@user-kj5cp8ur8z 5 ай бұрын
Especially when it beats a civic type r in this test
@thomasgrabkowski8283 5 ай бұрын
And a Civic too
@mickster1780 3 ай бұрын
watching that Turbo S going for 200 was like watching Top Gun Maverick trying to reach mach 10
@ryanchapman3239 Ай бұрын
Desire, respect, fear, and acceptance of what may be lol. Worth it.
@kaldarleifar 5 ай бұрын
It´s absolutely insane that the Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 came that close to the C8 Z06! What a beast that car would have been back in the day!
@gabrielgonzalez6456 5 ай бұрын
Not only that it still beats a GT3 RS, about 25 years later. That’s insane!!
@SoonerThunderFan 5 ай бұрын
There are so many variables that you can't compare 2 different tests even a couple days apart let alone in a different location, elevation, etc. The Lingenfelter was quick but by no means would it keep up with a C8 Z06. I've had the honor of driving both for extended periods- I have a neighbor with a spending problem. The problem is he can't outspend his bank account!
@racingjason 5 ай бұрын
The ZR1 in that test had a fully built 415 stroker motor, gears etc. So don't confuse it with the OEM ZR1.
@duanebailey6253 5 ай бұрын
Its not that hard to imagine at all. Could take a detuned nascar v8 from the 90's and have a faster car. Just look how well 90's civics do at all racing events despite small displacement.
@tkobvious 5 ай бұрын
Those original tests were only 0-100-0 not 0-150-0 tho, or am I crazy?
@victorpla29 5 ай бұрын
DONT CARE GIVE ME THE GT3
@JJdaSamuRai 5 ай бұрын
Weirdo
@commonduck10 5 ай бұрын
200k
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
Do yall every get tired of idolizing And fanboying over this car?? Im Being serious. No disrespect 🤭
@1naravz 5 ай бұрын
classic porsche fanboys
@brendanli8861 5 ай бұрын
@@WindyCity1992no
@porscheguy09 5 ай бұрын
A few of these cars impressed me by even hitting 150 mph in the first place.
@lmc333 5 ай бұрын
Which ones?
@kingGfour 5 ай бұрын
Let me guess the hyundai surprised you 🤦🏽♂️
@DriverJ-N 5 ай бұрын
😂
@porscheguy09 5 ай бұрын
@@lmc333 The Civic, Hyundai and the Kia. I would think that the Hyundai and Kia would be electronically limited to a lower speed and the Civic would struggle to reach 150 mph since it’s not designed for high speed but more for road courses with shorter gearing.
@jshumphress13 5 ай бұрын
I’ll take any of these cars. I’ve got a solid vehicle, but it’s a family hauler. I want fun, but my motorcycle will have to fill that void for now.
@zavatone 4 ай бұрын
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@suberizedwrx Ай бұрын
MAJOR respect to whoever put the video timeline together. Make, Model and TIME just by hovering my mouse over the time timeline!!! Thank you for saving me time. As a show of appreciation, this video gets a full watch from me!
@darkmatter6714 5 ай бұрын
Crazy to think that an F1 car can brake from 200mph to 0 in less than 4 seconds.
@ej2civicb736 5 ай бұрын
Weight of a atv and brakes bigger than wheels on cars were 15 years ago why is that surprising
@boardernut 5 ай бұрын
@@ej2civicb736 at 200mph the aerodynamic braking force decelerates a F1 car without touching the brake pedal at higar rate than any of these cars slamming on the brakes.
@fabrb26 5 ай бұрын
The massive balls of the F1 drivers scrub the asphalte to both add some mechanical grip and energy dissipation during braking
@peterjohnson8935 5 ай бұрын
Jonathan Palmer came to talk where I worked. He used to test the F1 McLarens of Senna and Prost. He said under hard braking he used to get tiny drops of moisture on the inside of his race helmet visor. It was negative G pulling moisture from his eye balls.
@justinsane3517 5 ай бұрын
Don't want to disappoint you, but it's 0-200 KM/H in under 4sec. ;-)
@patrickstar7693 5 ай бұрын
The fact that the GT3 RS goes this fast with such "little" power and this huge wing is insane
@Northanteus 5 ай бұрын
Porsche obviously lightened the car up way more than the others, put racing tech in there. It is a street legal race car. It's no surprise.
@martindimitrov2645 5 ай бұрын
They make Moto 3 single cylinder 250 cc does 150 and some other similar bikes
@Rezcuz 5 ай бұрын
@@Northanteus "no surprise" - it's very impressive regardless
@B__L 5 ай бұрын
@@Northanteus Honestly it's more impressive with the "racing tech". That wing will be slowing it's acceleration massively at 150mph.
@Northanteus 5 ай бұрын
@@B__L If GM chooses to strip all of the daily convenience technology out of the C8 Corvette to lighten the car up by a lot, throw a much bigger wing on the back, with more down force design in the front and on the side, put all the race technology in there, etc. It'd be faster than the gt3rs on the track, no problem. GM wanted to give people a car that they can comfortably daily drive on the street, with convenience, or go cross country and then take it to the track for fun. This is not the same mindset Porsche had for the gt3rs. It's comparing apples to oranges. Don't do that. This is my point.
@upshifter5316 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Those graphics, shots of the original test print brings back memories!! Probably read it 150 times as a kid. And I still have the issue in hand - I’ve never thrown one away.
@robertprowell7933 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work. Great video and information.
@KevZJ 5 ай бұрын
Watching the Lucid's speedo, I'm thinking "that must be kph." Nope. Insane
@AdamAllen 5 ай бұрын
Mind bending numbers. 😵💫
@spencer927 5 ай бұрын
Too be fair it was going downhill
@zachjacobs3337 5 ай бұрын
@@spencer927 I don't think that matters too much in the case of the Lucid
@lachlanB323 5 ай бұрын
@@spencer927 It would maybe reduce its time by 0.5 seconds MAX so it doesn't matter really. Wasn't a conclusive test but a 3 second+ difference can't be made back with stuff like slightly downhill headwind etc.
@TheSuperlobo34 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I was like where are they?
@Gltokensp06 5 ай бұрын
The Dark Horse out-braking the Porsche 911 Turbo S and Z06 shows that Ford was kinda serious about this $60,000 machine... Impressive. The GTD *might* be something to pay attention to.
@dnice362 5 ай бұрын
60k ? You nuts? Check that price again
@gcash2074 5 ай бұрын
Where are you getting one for 60,000?
@dnice362 5 ай бұрын
@@gcash2074 for real lol add about 15-20k to that
@wesgreen2812 5 ай бұрын
80k lol
@benjaminmatute9085 5 ай бұрын
@dnice362 Yes. Ford sells it for 50k
@Kmancanada 5 ай бұрын
WHAT AN OPENING ! Nice editorial choice.
@roadsidemanners 5 ай бұрын
I just finished reading this article, great timing!
@motormusique 5 ай бұрын
Very impressed by the CT5 Blackwing. What a performance bargain. And that Z06 how good does that sound!
@leeboo2521 5 ай бұрын
Rode with a buddy in his Z06 and the way that thing sounds banging off shifts seriously made me consider buying a used one down the road
@user-um3fx2vk8r 5 ай бұрын
@@leeboo2521 as it is a good car, 170k is really steep for a corvette lmao. thats 911 gts/turbo money, I couldnt bring myself to spend that on a corvette
@jayhayes5924 5 ай бұрын
It's the ultimate sleeper and old man car. I'm 53 and have a ctsv so I know. Mine isn't the v3 or blackwing though.
@jaredbrothers3409 5 ай бұрын
Too bad it looks like a Nissan
@julianop.4241 5 ай бұрын
Also it's rwd, the fact that it does what it does with power going only to the rear wheels is just one hell of a car.
@BB-pg5kl 5 ай бұрын
That turbo S is crazy! Also, I'm very impressed that the Mustang was able to out brake both the Z06 and 911 Turbo S.
@ricksmith3045 5 ай бұрын
Yet a few seconds slower than the two big name electrics.
@ruthnoya8424 5 ай бұрын
@@ricksmith3045 Who cares? That's like comparing a Supermarine Spitfire to the first generation fighter jets. Any aviation enthusiast would take a Spitfire anyday, as any automobile enthusiast would take a Porsche over a tesla.
@ricksmith3045 5 ай бұрын
@@ruthnoya8424 True, they would. Even with the IMS bearing issues that plagued them.
@sleep_sounds 5 ай бұрын
It has no theater. It's like the beige of performance cars.
@wow-sham1300 3 ай бұрын
@@ruthnoya8424 except that isn't correct its more like comparing an f-15 to a mig 25 both came from the same era but very different results, and any equestrian enthusiasts would take a horse over Porsche. because it ACTUALLY has a soul
@SuperXarus 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for coming to Oscoda Mi. my home town. I hope you guys enjoyed your stay and took a look at the sights to see. please comeback soon.
@CarsLife 5 ай бұрын
I've rewatched this video many times and it finally hit me that a Mustang went 150-0 mph in 5.7 seconds. Now I'm waiting for the day when a Mustang can do 0-150 mph in 5.7 sec 😊
@cafe88racer53 4 ай бұрын
Maybe in space with rockets lol
@lifted_above 4 ай бұрын
Cobra Jet?
@Albatrosi-123 3 ай бұрын
mustang can goes 1/4 in 6.4 sec 214mph 😉
@rwilson4073 5 ай бұрын
Would be great to see a graphic of all the cars racing side by side for a way to visualize these differences, but since the data is all there I might just make one for myself. Good stuff
@UZForLife 5 ай бұрын
Whoa, whoa, woah! You're talking about Hagerty level videography there, pal.
@bucketlist.original 5 ай бұрын
@@UZForLife Yeah, it's just the benchmark we are all dreaming of achieving!
@user-ns9du4tl3m 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but this ain't Hagerty
@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 5 ай бұрын
Link it to us if you do.
@ericfranke1637 4 ай бұрын
Would be neat to animate it too.
@DMSR-35 5 ай бұрын
That Bentley Continental is crazy, I know it has a lot of horsepower but it never appeared as if it would have those kinds of performance capabilities. Truly magnificent combination of luxury and performance
@pietdebeer7972 5 ай бұрын
my favourite by far of all the cars there. Luxury, performance, beauty.
@Sickwitit18 5 ай бұрын
That was very impressive how only 2 cars were faster to 150
@toolbaggers 5 ай бұрын
You should see it fly at the Niagara Falls border!
@thisguy59 5 ай бұрын
@@toolbaggers🤣
@facelessandnameless 5 ай бұрын
Seriously!
@armyguy608 5 ай бұрын
What a freaking MILESTONE of humanity kind of statement to end the video on guys! 😮 Loved it!
@tylerp4130 5 ай бұрын
Went to a drag day at a local track and was unfortunate enough to get put up against a 911 Turbo S, and omg that thing was insanely fast. It looked like I was going half throttle against it.
@Benlux_Edits 10 күн бұрын
What did u drive?
@chrissmith-rv5ro 5 ай бұрын
The current M5 competition should have been invited. I have a '20 and the car is an absolute missile, it also brakes like you've thrown two or three anchors out the back.
@shelbyz88 5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@chillout1109 5 ай бұрын
There are many cars they could have included. But I'm guessing they couldn't find any suppliers (or private individuals) willing to send them such cars : BMW. Lamborghini. Audi. Ferrari. AMG. Koenigsegg. McLaren. The list goes on.
@finwaydiddy1977 5 ай бұрын
@@chillout1109agree. But the list was good enough for me. I didn’t need to see any lambo, or Ferrari or Nissan or BMWs. They wouldn’t have made a difference compared to the Porsche lol. Let’s just be honest. Oops did i forget Mclaren?😂
@ryancaylor8541 5 ай бұрын
Why there is no x drive m4 or m3 too….
@jr1885 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. This test was pointless without any M cars.
@ConstantineJoseph 5 ай бұрын
Corvette Z06 truly a supercar without the excessive cost. 114k vs 223k gt3 RS vs 216k Turbo S 911. Absolute value for money for ultimate performance levels.
@johncena-hq1ti 5 ай бұрын
Yep even optioned out it’s about $150k vs $285k vs $265k. Sorry but I can’t see the 120 grand increase in performance for the turbo s or 135 for the RS. At that point I can get another badass daily like the ct5 bw, m5 comp, e63s, redeye charger, etc…with a couple grand left over for some minor bolt ons. This isn’t even factoring in markup. I’ve seen the z06 on sale for 250-300 and the rs for 450-600k 😳
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
True price wise but, the C8 ZO6, GT3 RS and Turbo S are in different lanes. We own both the C8 ZO6 and Turbo S and the difference on track is staggering. I'm ok with the difference on track because the Turbo S was purchased to handle daily, and cross-country travels through all types of weather without a hiccup. Our C8 ZO6 and C7 ZO6 handle track and daily street duty with the occasional long-distance travel. I don't own but have driven the GT3 not RS version on track and street. On track the vehicle is outstanding. On the street not so much.
@Rollincoal311 5 ай бұрын
Sure money wise it’s a good price point for what you’re getting. But my guess is you’ve never been in one, they ride rough as can be, as they should be in a track spec car. But truthfully I’ll just buy a proper track car for that price and runs laps around it. Cool car but useless at everything. Want a road car? Buy one. Want a track car. Buy one. Crossover into both is a compromise in each area. Daily I’d take a Turbo S. track car for that money a cup car or maybe an open wheel alll will absolutely completely destroy that vette. So potato potato. It’s the things people don’t think about or have actually done. Your response is common. So I know you’ve never been in a real track car or spent much time on an actual race track. Not being a dick but it’s fact for most people out there.
@cleverusernamecl5532 5 ай бұрын
Z06 are getting close to MSRP, 10k over is not unheard of now and dropping fast.@@johncena-hq1ti
@sambone8213 5 ай бұрын
The Corvette looks like a Walmart supercar. They were late to the mid-engine game and the design already looked dated when it was new. Let's not forget that they had to reverse engineer a Ferrari 458 motor to develop their flat plane crank V8. Don't even get me started on the Z06 interior. The Porsche is timeless and built to the highest quality.
@esahic1988 5 ай бұрын
This was awesome! Great video.
@coleswank5540 5 ай бұрын
great video and super great production!!
@isaiahisaiah2288 5 ай бұрын
Can't argue w/the Turbo S! Great in straight line, good on the track, as usable a backseat as you'll find in a supercar, doesn't look obnoxious like the GT3 RS, & the AWD makes it usable in any whether. 2nd I'd go w/the C8 Z06 ❤
@chiragnegi6276 5 ай бұрын
I don't want backseats on a supercar it's a sports car not supercar
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
Well stated. Traded from 992 S to Turbo S. The Turbo serves as our daily and long country travels. The ZO6 (C8) shares track duty with the ZO6 (C7) version. The GT3 RS is just too hard core for me in MHO. The C8 ZO6 without a doubt is the Swiss Army knife of sport cars. Track, daily and country travelling. Still for everyday usability it stands behind our Turbo S.
@isaiahisaiah2288 5 ай бұрын
@chiragnegi6276 🤣 IDK 🤷🏿♂️ what it is about the TurboS (particularly this 992 generation) that makes ppl real nitpicky about it. W/the lightweight package it does a 9sec 1/2mile... Throw Cup2 or Cup2Rs & you'd easily have a Sub 7min Nurburgring Time, does 0-60 in 2.4secs repeatedly, reliable AF, is a jack of all trades... Yet, "It's a Grand Tourer"... "It's a Sports Car"... while simultaneously matching or beating out other SuperCars of the times over the years from 997, 991, 992 generations😂 The M2 SC is a Sports Car, The GT3 Touring is a Sports Cars, The AMG GTS is a Sports Cars, The C8 Stingray is a Sports Car... a TurboS is in a completely different league. But hey, to each their own 👍
@BrettL250 5 ай бұрын
@@chiragnegi6276 we should probably keep that your little secret
@patatr4943 5 ай бұрын
GT3RS is probably the most pleasing vehicule to watch
@drewmorg. 5 ай бұрын
It's the Turbo S for me. Close behind would be the Z06. The Turbo S runs made me smile!
@scottiegravit8350 4 ай бұрын
Love this. Well done. It would be fun to see a competition from top 5 or so tuners with the same cars given 1 week to modify. Same 0-150-0 test!!
@jameswilliams6946 4 ай бұрын
This video deserves to be listened to with a great audio system
@frankgustafson8045 5 ай бұрын
Very impressed by the CT5 Blackwing and Mustang Dark Horse, 2 masterpieces in American engineering!
@lifted_above 4 ай бұрын
Slap a supercharger on that 5.0 and it would accelerate better than the rest, as it already brakes better than the rest.
@frankgustafson8045 4 ай бұрын
@@lifted_above It sure would but I gotta say I do love Ford's decision of making it naturally aspirated
@lifted_above 4 ай бұрын
@@frankgustafson8045 Yeah, potentially less fuss over the long run for the average owner. The Coyote can take plenty of boost if that's what an owner wants, too.
@208SledHead 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Ford REALLY shines in the N/A world.@@frankgustafson8045
@Justin_GFM 2 ай бұрын
@@lifted_above Fanboys gush over the Porsches as if they’re made for people like us 🤣 I like how American brands actually price their vehicles so that we have an actual chance in owning them, new or used
@louiecarrigan821 5 ай бұрын
The Gt3 is amazing, just like the Z06 and the Turbo S.
@warewolf21 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a beautiful machine! That's a track toy and would destroy every other car with ease on a circuit.
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
@@warewolf21 Not exactly. Z06 & GT3RS have traded wins on Track since 2008. Both great
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
@@warewolf21 Not really. On track the win usually comes down to the driver with these two vehicles.
@warewolf21 5 ай бұрын
The GT3 Rs has a time of 6:49.32 on Nürburgring, that's the third time for sport cars. Z06 is way back with 7:13.90. Ofcourse the driver is extremely important at that level.
@yissibiiyte 5 ай бұрын
@@warewolf21you're comparing a brand new GT3 RS to the previous gen Z06. We have no idea what the current Z06 would do
@tomkruze2749 29 күн бұрын
I still have that Magazine from the 90s Had a subscription to Motortrend and Car&Driver since 1982 and 1985. All till 2015.
@DogAteMyPopcorn 17 күн бұрын
These are the things that keep me renewing my subscription year after year. Now go have a cold one folks, you deserved it.
@stephenchapis268 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Amazing that the 1994 Lingenfelter ZR-1 is still a badass.
@snutmeez 5 ай бұрын
R.I.P DON SCHROEDER. He was a spectacular editor. I was 18 when 0-150-0 was created, those tuned vehicles, even though I could not hear them, I visualized me being the driver 🤣🤣🤣. When I read that Don crashed the RENNTech SLR 7.4, in a high speed test, I felt like I was there too, it hit me super hard, my heart sank. You know, I had about 3 years of Car And Driver mags, and when my mom moved, somehow, they went missing😮 the stack of magazines was 2 feet tall, gone. Sick with it.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥❤🇨🇦
@raceboy1971 5 ай бұрын
I totally remember that. It's insane when you think of the speeds they were doing on the tire tech of the time. Schroeder was the man. RIP.
@alangil40 5 ай бұрын
@@raceboy1971 I remember reading about that tragic event as well. In fact, it's with that crash in mind that I sometimes worry about KZfaq channel drag races where cars are pushing 180mph and the drivers don't have helmets and the cars aren't even that far apart if one lost control.
@Mandolin1944 5 ай бұрын
@snutmeez Its actually YOUR fault for leaving them at home for you mother to contend with all those years! 😂🤣😂
@BiragovDetailing 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic test!
@TommioRS 5 ай бұрын
Wow, never knew the Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 was that amazing back in the day! Well thankfully i own a 95 ZR-1, so im half way there.
@dillonalexander6689 5 ай бұрын
Nice 👊🏿
@bluesky-ud9wg 5 ай бұрын
I remember the original test in 98, the ZR1 had such an amazing acceleration sound it was almost not real. The low throaty tone of the 415 ci of stroked magic, it was an amazing car
@kaldarleifar 5 ай бұрын
The Lingenfelter C4 ZR-1 was such a beast, the only car that just barely beat it in the Road & Track High-Speed Shootout was the Mclaren F1.
@Microjoey02 5 ай бұрын
The C4 ZR1 will always have a special place in my heart🙂
@leeboo2521 5 ай бұрын
As long as it doesn't take my place
@gene7314 5 ай бұрын
Original King of the Hill Corvette 💪💪💪
@niagarafallsnewyork3659 3 ай бұрын
Lmao@@leeboo2521
@gracestingray Ай бұрын
@@gene7314❤️🔥🪽
@overbuiltlimited 26 күн бұрын
Just bought a 95 ZR1. Sort of a retirement gift. Could have bought anything up to $250K and I chose the ZR1. I honestly have no desire for any new car made today. They are all numb compared to an eighties or ninties car. Sure the new stuff is faster, but the real question everyone should be asking is which is more fun.
@user-hb7mb7is2j 3 ай бұрын
I watch so many car channels my favourite officially gassed BUT this video was amazing loved it!
@daynevickers1079 15 күн бұрын
You guys have the best job in the WORLD! Excuse me now, I have to clean up my slobber.
@mftran 5 ай бұрын
Carlos, you are a gift to the car journalism world. Thank you.
@CubanRider 5 ай бұрын
Never loved the C8's interior, but that Z06 revving to 8600 rpm is pretty damn special. If money were no object it'd go towards a Turbo S, that car is a masterpiece.
@maximborodyuk3773 5 ай бұрын
caliing vaccum cleaner sounding car a masterpiece is exactly why we have EV's lol
@ssoffshore5111 5 ай бұрын
I agree with you about the C8 interior, but I hear they are removing that stupid wall of switches for next model year. That might change my opinion...
@pasmas3217 5 ай бұрын
@@maximborodyuk3773 i guess respecting the vacuum cleaner for its performance and not its sound, is also why EVs are beating the entire field as well? because a subjective thing such as noise is what matters most in performance test, right?
@maximborodyuk3773 5 ай бұрын
@@pasmas3217 beating in what? you know that this test is biased by default towards launc and acceleration? As soon as the turn come, EV's are gone. And I highly doubt that you would launch your car constantly, which is basically the main and only thing in EV and TurboS. Otherwise you wouldn't use 650hp on a street, and you could have way more fun in a proper interesting cars. Calling faceless silent boring overpowered road car masterpiece is not even extension, Idk what it is.
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
We own both and the interior IMHO is fantastic. Our Turbo S shares daily duties with the ZO6. Long distance travels belong to the Turbo S. It is that comfortable.
@CalvinHikes 2 ай бұрын
This was a well done video.
@ahjwille 5 ай бұрын
Carlos is such a good presenter. He needs more screen time.
@nl3712 5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@DPCcars 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely blown away by the sheer diversity and performance of the cars in this test! It's a golden era for car enthusiasts. From the raw power of the Lucid's insane speed to the surprising agility of the Bentley Continental, each car brings something unique to the table. But here's a thought - with the rise of EVs and their impressive performance metrics, do you think traditional supercars are facing serious competition? #CarLoversDebate 🏎⚡
@h20dancing18 5 ай бұрын
people often compare electric cars vs other electric cars. For now, it should be comparing electric cars to their gas equivalents. "for this much money, what does the EV give and what does the gas do?" I would say we are *just* reaching that point. as EV's start to overtake gas cars in value for performance, they will continuously grow as the desire for growling V8's fades with the newer generation.
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
There is much logic to your statement however, we have people that purchase vehicles for a great amount of money for optics vice performance. There is no doubt a Lucid or Tesla can beat most supercars however, I just want a Ferrari sitting in my garage mentality is still at play.
@alpenfoxvideo7255 5 ай бұрын
@@h20dancing18it’s a beautiful time when you can buy what probably is the peak combustion engine cars, and next gen EVs at the same time
@OldsLSSL67 5 ай бұрын
EV's have a long ways to go to be considered true performance cars because of their weight. They have incredible acceleration but thats about it. Handling and braking is garbage compared to other performance sedans like the blackwing or m5. Shave 1,000 lbs off them and give them 6 piston caliper brakes and I'll be interested. Until then I'll just stick with my 18 CTS-v.
@h20dancing18 5 ай бұрын
@@OldsLSSL67 for most EVs I totally agree. There are plenty of promising (and plenty of not promising) battery chemistries and manufacturing techniques that promise to bring the weight down. Will have to wait and see.
@maxwellsmart8730 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic content from Car & Driver!
@kurtburkhardt5862 5 ай бұрын
I admit I'm a Mustang fan. Was impressive it kept up and beat many of these way more expensive cars. Back in the day I did get my relatively stock 86 Fox body to about 150. With 9" disks and drums in the back without any ABS stopping took me almost as long as accellerating. I coasted a long time before even considering using my brakes. Gently slowing from 80 to 65 or so...Any of these cars could not only smoke my old 5.0 LX even after I modified with nitrous. But far outbrake and outhandle it...I look forward to getting a newer Mustang GT and just having some fun with it. No more top speed runs for me.
@tequila5882 2 ай бұрын
Great Idea! I own a 2014 Mustang GT (first year of gen. 6) and the price-performance ratio is truly impressiv. Also the Sound of the V8 is one of the best of its class^^
@gabrielwilliams5315 5 ай бұрын
Absolute legend!
@ChavaYang 5 ай бұрын
You and your team are awesome! Keep up the great content.
@gtboard 5 ай бұрын
Great to also bring up super old results great work 🎉
@ytTonyZ 26 күн бұрын
Nice piece and a bunch of fun. Wish you would have listed all the 0-60 and quarter miles of each, with a list at the end. Cheers
@googleuser3007 5 ай бұрын
Very nice. I enjoyed this.
@rwilson4073 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff. This is what I love to see. Real-world testing with real-world numbers, comparing cars to each other and not some perfect-conditions number on the internet.
@duramaxadventures5832 5 ай бұрын
These retrospectives are AMAZING showing how far we have really come!
@carsgunsandguitars 2 ай бұрын
The C4 Lingenfelter is still impressive, 30 years later. I used to dream of that car daily!
@georgenewman5860 5 ай бұрын
Great video with some amazing cars. If you could have gotten some head to head drag races thrown in it would have been fun to see as well.
@shiftsgiggles962 5 ай бұрын
Bravo! I did 200 in a 992 Turbo S last year. And the C8 Z06/Z07 last weekend. Loved it! Great test and video guys.
@Moakmeister 5 ай бұрын
The 911 Turbo S is just the best car ever made. Edit: also dang I’m glad we finally have some guys who use Sport mode instead of Sport Plus because it keeps the wing and splitter retracted for lower drag.
@ew10j4turbo 5 ай бұрын
Rear seats are a shit
@blakealtonen9858 5 ай бұрын
Yes or the Bentley continental, its fast, handles really well and is one of the most luxurious cars on the market.
@rapid13 5 ай бұрын
It just might be. Damn thing impressed the heck outta me for sure!
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
We own both the Turbo S and C8 ZO6. Both vehicles share daily duties however, only the ZO6 is capable of handling track duties. Don't get me wrong our Turbo can be tracked however, not at the level of a ZO6. By the way nice catch concerning the proper use of Sport mode.
@Sickwitit18 5 ай бұрын
Most Porsches also sound better in sport vs sport+. You get more burbles and such
@timothytyner410 4 ай бұрын
3058'! Anyone else find it extremely satisfying that the Corvette's from 25 years apart had the exact same overall 0-150-0 distance?
@NiquidFox 5 ай бұрын
The Turbo S is such an amazing feat of engineering
@sleep_sounds 5 ай бұрын
911s are boring
@lifted_above 4 ай бұрын
Boringly high performing, boringly consistent, boringly reliable, boringly overachieving, and boringly decent price for all that.
@sleep_sounds 4 ай бұрын
@@lifted_above All of that is boring. Consistent and reliable and decent priced, do you hear yourself? 911s have no personality. They are performance cars for people that get their opinions from others.
@lifted_above 4 ай бұрын
@@sleep_sounds But then you might complain if the 911 broke down, didn't make good passes but went into limp mode, wasn't as quick in the top end, and brakes lit on fire?
@sleep_sounds 4 ай бұрын
@@lifted_above You are trying to argue what a car isn't and using a complaint I didn't make. That's not an argument. Who are you even talking to? At the end of the day I stand by the statement Porsche 911s are performance cars for people that get their opinions from others.
@jmmch3358 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how the Shelby GT500, Camaro ZL1, Challenger SRT Demon, Porsche Taycan, Corvette E-Ray, Viper ACR, and Porsche GT2RS would have come out on this test.
@CarlosLago 5 ай бұрын
Us too.
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
ACR & GT2RS are tied in the Braking test. They both set The fastest 0-100-0 times
@dnice362 5 ай бұрын
Gt2rs would have walked this test
@bonusb2924 5 ай бұрын
Agreed on the ZL1, especially considering the price point
@ChR0nos_7734 5 ай бұрын
@@dnice362 how? it's RWD version of Turbo S with big wing
@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics 5 ай бұрын
'It's highly unlikely that an internal combustion car could come out on top, ever again.' Yes, for what they lack in character, they more than make up for in sheer speed... and there really is something delightful about the way a good high performance EV effortlessly accelerates. You have to experience it to understand what I mean.
@gnoxycat 5 ай бұрын
Traded my Porsche GT3 for a Model S. Zero regrets. The best canyon car I have ever owned. That exit speed is addicting!
@wbwayne8887 5 ай бұрын
@@gnoxycat A Tesla? 😂
@gnoxycat 5 ай бұрын
@@wbwayne8887 Real car guys drive EVs.
@maximborodyuk3773 5 ай бұрын
@@gnoxycat that's simply because you can't drive other than smashing accelerator
@gnoxycat 5 ай бұрын
@@maximborodyuk3773 Maybe, but its addicting and I test drove a new Porsche a few weeks back and its weak sauce. Tesla will be getting another $100k+ from me soon as there is nothing else that can match it.
@rickintexas1584 5 ай бұрын
There are some phenomenal machines in this test.
@DortonFarb 5 ай бұрын
The 992 Turbo S is incredibly fast, and incredibly easy to drive fast. And it won this contest with normal summer tires, not Cup 2 ot Trofeo R track day tires.
@PupitoManuel 5 ай бұрын
@CarlosLago is one of the best hosts I have ever seen in C&D. His technical knowledge, driving skills and extraordinary charisma makes for a great package. He should be the NatGeo poster boy for C&D. Cheers!!
@gregst.a4144 5 ай бұрын
As easy as it seemed for the TS to reach 200, I would be sweating profusely watching how quickly the turf at the end of the runway was approaching and the reaper along with it!
@MravacKid 5 ай бұрын
The "I'll get to 200 even if I have to brake into the trees" school of thought :)
@Joseph-vj2ph 5 ай бұрын
I will always drive an internal combustion engine. The sound, the soul of the motor is what I love.
@jonasirw1 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Would love to have seen a compare of carbon ceramics vs regular brakes
@BadTomzi 5 ай бұрын
Would be really cool to know the Plaid time with track package considering it would still be one of the cheapest.
@ricksmith3045 5 ай бұрын
It would give a little bit quicker time, but it may not reach the Saphire time.
@gruppegee 5 ай бұрын
Reasons I love the 911 Turbo S... It's one of the fastest, best handling, year round usable and amazing cars on the market. Punching far above its weight and one of the greatest 911's on the planet. I miss mines
@ronretired 5 ай бұрын
I traded up from a Carrera to Turbo S. Both great cars however, it cannot compete on a track vs our C8 ZO6. I'm ok with that. The Turbo was purchased as a daily and long-distance cruiser. The C8 ZO6 and C7 ZO6 share track duty days.
@gruppegee 5 ай бұрын
@@ronretired Tracking the Turbo S doable, I have a friend with one. He's done the whole 3RS suspension setup with the Turbo S dampers. It's a great mix of performance but skews away from the Turbo's general purpose. Previously owned a C6Z with a full LG suspension and JTM stage 4 setup. Capable of wild lap times at NJMP and 9sec quarters @141mph on the same Toyo R888R tires. The Vettes remain some of the best bang for the buck you can get. Kudos on the C7 and C8 Zed's
@akhaqan 5 ай бұрын
Porsche proves yet again, they are the benchmark for a reason. Great video, loved watching it.
@da5863 5 ай бұрын
Overall? You can make that argument. Within the context of this video, absolutely not. An F8 or 720S would’ve smoked the Turbo S.
@GTOGregory 5 ай бұрын
@@da5863 But at a much higher purchase price.
@cm-15 5 ай бұрын
@@GTOGregoryA 720s is the same price as a Turbo S in todays market
@650ib 5 ай бұрын
18:21 $4,000 Aria full carbon fiber helmet spotted, nice! Excellent video and the C8 Z06 sounds the best!
@just.for.the.downshifts 5 ай бұрын
"Don't think an internal combustion engine can ever come out on top again." Sounds ominously true.
@SilversurferGT 5 ай бұрын
Love how the Turbo S can consecutively run 200+ mph all day and still pick up groceries and drive it home at the end of the day.
@myusernamethisiss 5 ай бұрын
Wow this really opens a new perspective for me.
@doughboi007 4 ай бұрын
I am obsessed with the Z06. I'm so glad it's getting the recognition and hype.
@robotwonder8590 5 ай бұрын
The CT5 V is so underrated. Sounded amazing 🫡🫡
@ms3ben 5 ай бұрын
The Tesla S Plaid should be tested with the new OEM track pack installed.
@CarlosLago 5 ай бұрын
We agree.
@deanmcmanis9398 5 ай бұрын
I am glad that they still tested the Plaid and Sapphire, despite the asterisks. It would have been a crime to not include them. However I don't agree that real conclusions about the winners can't be drawn. Because regardless of the conditions, those two EVs would certainly have better 0-150-0 times than all of the others in this pack of contenders. Especially if you added the Track Package to the Plaid.
@DMCarReviews 5 ай бұрын
@@deanmcmanis9398 If they are testing "cars" then you can't really include them. They are ipads on wheels or RC's...
@RxPharmer 5 ай бұрын
@@DMCarReviews They operate on public roads with designated license plates and actual human drivers behind the wheel. The literal definition is a vehicle moving on wheels. Even better, the definition of an automobile, "a usually four-wheeled automotive vehicle designed for passenger transportation." You boomers are getting more curious by the day.
@P10634 5 ай бұрын
Car and Driver would just put another nail in the tire. Can’t have a Plaid embarrassing all the other advertising car brands like that.
@spdcrzy 5 ай бұрын
It took the same amount of distance (about 600 feet) to stop from 200-150 that it did to stop from 150-0 for the 911 Turbo S, but HALF the time (2.6-2.7s vs 5.4s). No fade WHATSOEVER. Those are some DAMN good brakes.
@dcarden3031 2 ай бұрын
Weird I noticed
@wootwoot5032 5 ай бұрын
Awesome test
@urieluribefregoso4992 5 ай бұрын
That “brakes like a 1998 c5 “ is a compliment to the civic, since the C5 literally dominated
@spartemex2784 5 ай бұрын
Love to see the production quality on the car and driver youtube. The graphics were hard to read though - couldn't keep track of where cars were relative to each other performance-wise through the video
@hydrogensciencefair 3 ай бұрын
What’s the little circle mean??
@MikeYeary 5 ай бұрын
As a Dark Horse owner, I can attest to that braking power. First time I hit them, I felt like the skin on my face was going to rip off. 😅 It took a little getting used to.
@billiondollardan 2 ай бұрын
the ct5-v put up serious numbers. I'm really impressed
@lancegallant3647 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video super interesting 👍 deff subscribed :-)
@themidnighttavern6784 5 ай бұрын
Geez, the next gt500 and even moreso with the GTD are gonna be insane. The s650 is incredible.
@RedBud315 5 ай бұрын
I think the Shelby Cobra was king of the 0-100-0 test being the only car that did it in less than 10 seconds. Those numbers still impressive in today's numbers.
@sean9267 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm wondering what a 2023 GT500 would do in this test. That car pulls so hard on the top end.
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 5 ай бұрын
@@sean9267it would get beaten by the Z06 purely because of engine position. I think Edmunds did a drag race between them and the GT500 could barely even pull against the Z06 at high speeds
@jamesnew8170 5 ай бұрын
I think that time is a bit optimistic: C&D did an official test at about 14.5 seconds. Legendary Ken Miles was reported to have done it in 13.8 seconds so I’m thinking 10 seconds is still a bit of a myth If memory serves, the late 60s 427 Chevy Corvette Stingray was the only car that even came close at 14.8? And remember this was over 50 years ago, back before a lot of electronic injection and other performance parts existed! Car Company Execs: Make it fast! Engineers in the 60s: Hold my beer!
@robax 2 ай бұрын
That C4 Vette.. amazing
@ricksmith3045 5 ай бұрын
As much as I love the caddy, seeing the Tesla and Lucid times is just jaw dropping.
@theguy1224 5 ай бұрын
Makes me happy to be a c8 z06 owner. Such a capable car!
@haveaseatplease 5 ай бұрын
Also in unrestricted top speed the Lucid Air is king of kings, with an independently verified 235 mph (376 km/h).
@sprockkets 5 ай бұрын
Rimac Nevera has entered the chat....
@georgyzhukov6409 3 ай бұрын
for 3 times the price of a plaid with same speed lol
@JohnnyFnG84 5 ай бұрын
when you watch a random video and see your car in it! 🥰 (Elantra N). It did well, just glad to see it's a cool enough car to be invited!
@FromInfinityTV 5 ай бұрын
I literally remember buying that first Car & Driver 0-150-0 magazine
@EdD-ym6le 5 ай бұрын
That was a nice 911 Turbo , dk green w/ dk burgundy interior . Pretty sweet ride 👍
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
Z06 type of guy. However yes Turbo S is a cool car Every car here was pretty dope
@pigeonpoo1823 5 ай бұрын
Superman's company car is definitely a 911 Turbo S
@RANDsreviews 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the 0-150! Loved it! So different than the rest. 150 in an insane speed. Maybe next episode 0-175? LOL!
@GTOGregory 5 ай бұрын
I appreciated the higher 150 MPH speed. On my morning drive to work it's not uncommon to hit 95 MPH in my Heavy Duty truck.
@givingmyalltolife686 5 ай бұрын
Mentally sharp coach whether he’s the future or not. Seems like a Good man..
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