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Ilford Retro

Ilford Retro

2 ай бұрын

Redbridge Central Library is one of the most well-visited libraries in the country. A focal point of the town centre development which took place in the 1980s it is a proven success both internally and externally. However, could it one day see its purpose switched to residential housing? The plans mooted in 2019 seem to have been quietly paused. Would you like the library to kept as it is or become part of a new multi-use leisure complex across the road?
Sources:
www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/life...
www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news...
Ilford Historical Society
londonist.com/london/features...
www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news...

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@bobbylope
@bobbylope 2 ай бұрын
Amazing work, I love these uploads.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Great to have you along to reminisce
@SA-yb7mt
@SA-yb7mt 2 ай бұрын
The plans you mention, which gladly, are on hold for now, to convert the library into "affordable" flats is on which I hope does not come to fruition but I fear in an age of profits before most other things, this will go through once their long term plan to erode the services to a point where no one will notice or care what has been lost to us all. Keep up your great work to enrich us with knowledge.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
Always nice to have you join us for the trip into the past. If there is enough opposition to such plans and the will to keep services running as they are in the buildings for which they were intended, that would hopefully mean such a plan is not undertaken. To combine the three leisure services into a single building would cost a huge amount of money and for the result to mean moving the library 50 feet across the road would seem gravely wasteful.
@rajnirvan3336
@rajnirvan3336 2 ай бұрын
I still remember when this was happening and when the library opened. Seeing it also has a museum I might just have a brief visit upon my next visit this month
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
Well worth paying a visit although please note that the museum is being refurbished at the moment. Hopefully by the end of the year it will be open with a whole new range of artefacts.
@rajnirvan3336
@rajnirvan3336 2 ай бұрын
@@IlfordRetro OK thanks for letting me know. Will look out for it soon. Nonetheless be back upon a visit a a ritual
@zaphodbeeblebrox6627
@zaphodbeeblebrox6627 27 күн бұрын
If memory serves me correctly (it's been many many many many years) in the other side of the pedestrian underpass by the new library was a large car park. The surface was just crushed rubble and shoppers & commuters used to park there. I can't remember what the charge was ( if they DID charge), but eventually the Cineworld complex was built on the site.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 27 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right about that. Once the houses were pulled down on Oakfield Road, car parks were created and for many years lay undeveloped. I think some were actually free. I know it seems a long time ago, but it was ONLY just over 20 years ago that Cineworld was built! That's relatively recent in my humble opinion 😅
@jimkt01
@jimkt01 2 ай бұрын
I used to really enjoy visiting the old library on Oakfield Road when I was a kid, although the new library was a vast improvement. I also used to live as a teenager in a shared house just on the other side of the subway there, on Mildmay Road. I no longer live in Ilford and based on my subsequent visits when I still had family in the area I’m very, very pleased about that. It’s a horrible place now, but growing up there in the 70’s and 80’s it was a great place to live. Have you any photos of the burger bar Speedy’s? It was on the site of what became the Pizza Hut on the corner opposite the Havelock pub.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
I remember thinking the new library was far too plastic and lacking the charm of the Oakfield Road library. But of course, the new beame familiar and the old disappeared into nothing more than a memory. Ilford has certainly changed since those days, although the library itself remains a link of sorts to the past and the newer, current town. A few others have asked about Speedy's cafe. The short answer is I don't have a photo of it, however its side signage (not front sign) stating '...pizza' can be made out in the distance of a couple of photos. It's just not good enough to use as an exapmple unfortunately, with the focus of the shot being on everything else in the foreground. I believe in 1982 Pizza Hut moved in.
@mikeuk4130
@mikeuk4130 2 ай бұрын
Now we can look back on 1983 and see very clearly that we couldn’t possibly have known what the demands of the 21st century would be. I think, however, that it was a very good attempt, judged by the attributes you highlight in your very interesting video.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
You're right. One thing I find fascinating between then and now is the provision for a record (and later CD) lending library which was on the second floor. Who knew that physical media would one day become obsolete due to downloading and streaming via a telephone connection?! The library has thankfully moved with the times in that respect, unlike businesses such as Blockbuster video which simply disappeared.
@MrSmith1984
@MrSmith1984 2 ай бұрын
I don't see the need to knock down the existing Library. Especially when it would be difficult to covert said building into flats.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
Yes the information in the Recorder article at the time wasn't very detailed about how a library conversion might work or whether extensive remodelling would be required to make it habitable.
@MrSmith1984
@MrSmith1984 2 ай бұрын
@@IlfordRetro I suspect that Redbridge Council (when the article was written) had not yet worked out how to convert the Library Building into flats. I also suspect that they quietly scrapped the plans once they worked out how much work was actually needed. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if they concluded that the most viable option was to simply knock down the existing building and build a block of flats in its place.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
@@MrSmith1984 You're probably right about all that. It would seem an awkward building to convert and the logic of the overall plan may have been scrutinised a bit more thoroughly after the initial plan was put forward. I hope they don't conclude that a tower block should be built there instead though, and keep the high rise zoning to Ilford Hill and the Lynton House areas.
@MrSmith1984
@MrSmith1984 2 ай бұрын
@@IlfordRetro And to be honest, it would be daft to knock down the library building (& build a new one for the sake of it) when said building is very much fit for purpose. The best solution would be to relocate the Council Offices in the Lynton Road Tower Blocks to a redeveloped Kenneth Moore Theatre site and instead covert (or rebuild) the Lynton Road Tower Blocks into housing.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
@@MrSmith1984 Yes, that idea sounds far more sensible.
@alangiles2763
@alangiles2763 2 ай бұрын
Typical Redbridge Council - they always promise more than they know they can deliver (the 2019 plan - how could you fit a library a swimming pool and a theatre into the fairly small space that is the old KM theatre?). Perhaps an early Wes Streeting dream? - Streeting, the Walter Mitty of politics, the only "single parent family child" with two parents, both of whom he has lived with.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 2 ай бұрын
A scathing review! I doubt it was too much to do with the MPs but an over-eager council cabinet and Regeneration department. Yes it does seem a small plot of land on which to creat a three-way leisure complex. Separating crowds/visitors when events clashed would be a logistical headache.
@bobbylope
@bobbylope 2 ай бұрын
Shaaaaaaaraaapppp
@alangiles2763
@alangiles2763 2 ай бұрын
@@IlfordRetro No I doubt Streeting was involved but he would promise the world to get his backside on the chair round the cabinet table.
@zaphodbeeblebrox6627
@zaphodbeeblebrox6627 26 күн бұрын
If it DID ever get developed one would assume it would be a multi-storey development . Swimming pool on the ground level ( because of the weight) Library on the next floors ( again because of the weight) and theatre on upper levels with changing rooms and plenty of room to swing a cat.
@IlfordRetro
@IlfordRetro 22 күн бұрын
@@zaphodbeeblebrox6627 I think you're right about that sort of layout. A small footprint with lots above it. I think it would result in congestion of people accessing the disparate services at all sorts of times though. Different entrances for each may solve some of that, but yet it remains a relatively small plot for several activities to take place on. I expect the trade off between end result and cost doesn't make it economically viable.
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