Ford uses this belt is called a stretch belt that's how they are put on the engine there's no belt tensioner

Some models had belt tensioners but there's a very big percent that doesn't and this is by far the easiest best way to do it

einstein !!!

@@FordBossMe last time I checked the easiest way to do something has NOTHING to do with the right way to do something

@@scottkinkead6324 calm down cheif, master tech knows what he's doing

To be fair the Japanese have been doing it like this for a long time now. Mazda and Subaru are the first two that come to mind.

Gm also uses it on a/c belts

​@@bigboreracing356 I don't think the OP really had a point, not unlike your very own pointless existence, er, post.

Yeah the method that I use here doesn't do any damage at all nice and smooth right on so I get that they make tools for it but this is my method and that's all I'm showing

Not going to lie I have been known to use the same method. I'd never do it on a customer's car but when it comes to my shit .. ehh if something happens it's on me . This is why you never buy a mechanics car 😆

@@miztatone918 Well honestly if I told my customers that it would be faster, and they pay less labor. They would be all for it. They are always just in a rush. They don't want to know anything besides "how much" and "When can I pick it up?"

Same here! With some of the convoluted tensioners some manufacturers had for v-belts in the late '80s/early '90s you could wind up spending too much time screwing with them and easily strip a bolt or bend a bracket... Safer and easier to do it with wooden dowels and a remote starter switch!

@@blueridgerennsport I think it was only really a problem for noobs. And some bad pulley designs.

@@BukitMan I've been doing this for over 30 years and I still managed to mangle the alternator tensioner bolt on my '84 Mercedes quite recently 🤣 A $50 mistake!

It slips sometimes but it does work

I have often paid homage to the zip tie Gods... with Frankincense & Muir

Yeah I quit using zip ties when I started using this method

Tyvm

The vice grips does work for sure but they actually make a tool that's only $13 and it works better than anything I was just showing it cheap method here

Where can I buy the $13 tool.

Right but these are made to do this there's no belt tensioner

Open face you most of these DONT have an open face so zip tie wont work

I pulled a 50 Cent wrench out of my drawer and use it

@@FordBossMe nice trick to have up your sleeve for sure.

Thanks Mark

Lmao

I've never used my 9mm wrench

I have the rare 20mm socket, and I've used it MORE than any 9mm. But, on the plus side, the 9mm sockets are a nice place-holder (cleanest socket) in the socket tray🤣😎

Yeah I really don't have that problem using this method every once in awhile it will slip off but that way I'm not taking vice grips and clamping it to the pulley not something I'm fond of but everybody can do it however they want I'm not doing it that way though I've seen too many technicians gouge pulleys doing it like that

@@FordBossMe yeah if you start gouging pulley's it's way way too tight it literally only has to be a little bit of tension to stop the belt from slipping. As for using the old piece of belt I only do it to increase the surface area across the back of the belt for piece of mind I have done this without the old piece of belt and it hasn't damaged anything but I don't really like chancing anything especially with belts that can be near $100AUD.

​@@FordBossMeBy the way, thanks for showing the first attempt where it pops off. It helped me see what you need to keep an eye on and prepped me to have some extra patience.

Yes as I said some of these have tensioners and some of these don't most of them don't

I have with mixed results. Locking pliers was my go to the first couple stretch belts I put on but I ended up killing a couple belts that way. After that I switched to zip ties. Now I'll go back and forth between this and zip ties.

I tried the magnetic tool to put it on the crank and take it off and I don't like it I can't get it to stay on I don't know if that's the only your company made or not

@@FordBossMe Don't think ours was magnetic. I wasn't part of that project though, just saw it and the manual for it. They had a bunch of plant people in for buy off of it. This was a few years ago and I just wanted to see the prototype engines they also had the other motor with a different powerboost setup but talking to the engineer he said the other one was much more expensive to make so they would probably go with the one they are using now. I only build the balance machines so I see a lot of the future products, current job is the 2023 5.0 crank which is kind of late we usually work with stuff planned farther out

@@Kurt.24 I know they used to send a tool with the belt when you ordered it but now we don't get them anymore

Yup I have used that trick many times . Works well just have to have enough sense not to have the pliers too tight as to not damage the belt .

Worked good here though

@@FordBossMe ohh yeah I agree 👍was just sharing what I know with ya . Saw while reading other comments that your already privi to it haha . I figured as much but you never know .

Yea definitely don’t want it so tight the teeth are digging into the belt. I’m gonna try the 9mm on the next one. Seems like it would be less risky for sure

Are you the Gerardo that worked with me at Hertz?

@@FordBossMe no I’m not. I am from San Francisco.

Yeah I get the people do that but I don't have to run back to my boss grabbed a pair of vice grips put tape around to get it set up I just grabbed a simple 9 mm cheap wrench and go right to the vehicle that's too easy I've seen the vice grips a thousand times when my coworker see me do this he was like damn dude it's badass man

I like my method I never had a problem with it don't plan on changing it

That's why I don't use vise grips and I only use the wrench it's by far the best way to do it the safest way to do it and the easiest way to do it

@@FordBossMe it's A/C season, be doing a lot of compressors. Have to try it your way see how it works for me, thanks dude. 🤟👍

Right but this is easier you don't have to use a clamp

Right and I'm tired of going to parts and getting another one and another one and another one a wrench is the best thing that you can do you don't have to throw anything away you don't have to worry about hitting the crankshaft position sensor with your vise grips it's easy to just do it with a wrench it's small and it goes all the way around it fits inside the wheel well that's what I do and it's the easiest by far the best way to do it unless you like using tie straps

Not all. Stretch belts eliminate tensioner pulleys which are prone to failure...

Bigger wrench yes

You don't have to cut the zip tie off.....it breaks off as it rotates around I already know the trick... but that will work on all types of these situations because some closed face....you can't use the zip tie trick on all of them because all of them don't have holes to put the zip tie through

Book time we have to go by but im very lenient. If it says its an hour and i know i can do it in a half hour....ill just tell them to charge the half hour and so on and so forth

@@FordBossMe your a good dude my friend

Thats the million dollar question. What does it even do?

Cost less to make. Tensioners are expensive item, in the eyes of the manufacturer. If they can cut cost they will.

They don't have to spend time and money on designing and manufacturing another component. If it cost them one less dollar on each vehicle,and they sell a million cars with that one less component that's a million dollars saved.

Cus car companies are getting cheaper and cheaper while they charge you more and more. And im sure those "stretch" belts cost double what a normal one does.

Some of them actually do have belt tensioners but there's a huge percent that don't

Yes but youll need a bigger wrench

Lol

I don't know about that but to each their own

Yvw

To top it off, it was my first time doing a belt on a FWD vehicle.

I had a car like that an old 98 Bonneville with the 3800 series2. To change the serpentine belt you had to do the same thing . I was like wtf gm 😄 in my case it was actually the passenger side bottom mount so it was inconvenient at best .

It's like torque to yield bolts. They use engineering magic (math) to figure out how to give you precisely enough stretch for the job. Stretch it a bit too much on install? Fuck you buy another lol. I found that out the lame way.

in simple terms it is just a big rubber band, over time it will eventually lose its stretch and begin to slip, then you just put a new one on again, simple.

@@jza61nick lol sounds about right.

@@doug8872 Suppose that makes sense, have to imagine they don't last though.

Not at all

This is one tool two hands done no tape no vise grips no pudding not necessary clamping on the pulley not necessary a 9 mm rent works perfectly fine

doesn't have a belt tensioner

Show me

@@FordBossMe kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hat5kpNnx5eqj2w.html I’ve used this tool before on BMW stretch belts. The belt you’re working with in this video looks pretty similar in design and install.

I don't even use the zip tie anymore I just use this because there's no reason for me to

Yes

Well it's a stretch belt it's supposed to go on like this there's no other way to put it on

It can

I do that sometimes to

I have that tool I have all these tools that people have mentioned on here I'm a Master Tech I have over $40,000 worth of tools this video was how to show you how to do it cheap and fast and effective and that's what I did and I accomplished that For people that don't have money or don't have the tool a simple cheap 9 mm wrench that nobody ever uses can be used for this

@@FordBossMe Sorry, I misunderstood your intent. I've got one from a belt job on my daughter's Mazda. I had no idea of another way to do it.

You'll be better off finding an experienced (older) independent mechanic. 1996 is at the very beginning of OBD2 and depending if the vehicle was actually made in 1995 it might be OBD1. As this is considered legacy at this point no dealer is required by Ford to instruct tech on OBD1 (Law only requires 10 years of parts and service support by makers). One of the best ways in the modern world to find a good mechanic in your area is to find a online board for that generation of vehicle by enthusiasts of it and ask if any are in the area and if they know of a good mechanic.

Completely agree,an independent would serve you better. The CNG will require a specialist maybe find out who installed it.

If you can find a shop that has experienced older technicians that you're better but independent shops typically do have those guys so that's also a great option but if it's just a bunch of young guys in the shop I would pass on a dealership

Are you lost? Or are you just trolling commenting on something that you don't even understand this belt is called a stretch belt you stretch it onto the pulleys people that don't have experience with this need to quit commenting on Automotive videos because they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground