Monk: "May I speak to you about my god?.." Sicillian: *Angry Italian hand gesturing*

8:44 It also means the Elite Janissary can make a 360 no-scope.

Fun fact: The idea for the longboat to remain a combat transport ship was kept for Age of Mythology's norse faction.

I think the idea with El Dorado adding HP is that it's meant to be a "Fountain of Eternal Youth" type thing.

I would love for Longboats to be restored as fighting transport ships. It might not be balanced, but it would be very fun.

Here is another Magyars fun fact - You might wonder that "Killing wolfs in one hit" is kind of a strange bonus, well - although I can't confirm this was actually the inspiration - there was a Hungarian noble: Miklós Toldi, a Hungarian folk hero, who hailed from peasant origins, and among his great deeds is the one story where he killed two reed wolfs (or golden jackals) with his bare hands. Of course this is just my theory, don't know if the original Forgotten mod team based it around this story, though it's another case of fiction being presented as history in AoE. Btw. If they wanted to give Magyars an eco bonus, they could give us something related to farms or herd animals, since we were pretty famous for those.

Fun fact about the Sicilians: you should never go in against them when death is on the line.

Shout out to all the people who play with z civs 🗿🍷

*Lithuanians:* *ignore armor *Teutons:* "And we took that personally."

Disregarding game balance, having the Longboats garrison units to gain extra projectiles would actually be kinda neat.

I reckon long boats should fire a main projectile and only fire extra arrows with each unit garrisoned inside. Even if they only capped out at 5 or something it would be a pretty neat raiding

Another fun fact about the Spanish: their archers actually aren't the worst out there. Fully upgraded can shred teutons, celt and frankish crossbowmen.

Hunting Dogs is an eco upgrade in AOE3 which can be researched at the Mark. I believe it has the same effect.

In my copy of Age of Kings, the longboats have the garrison icon, but cannot transport any unit. The garrison condition was probably already taken away, but they forgot to delete the icon. Age of Kings was definitely not a polished game, including the fact that you could convert heroes and everything else :P

Would love to see a round 2 of this series and whenever you can find the time, the history videos are always bangers!

as for the persian fact at 4:10, when i look at tech tree, berbers show up as 2 bonuses as well since it clumps up fishing ship/vill movement into one bonus.

About Persians, the way civ bonuses are displayed is kinda arbitrary sometimes. Depending on how you word it, the TC and Dock HP + working rate bonus could be 1,2 or 4 different bonuses tbh

If an elite janissary shoots instantly but a portuguese hand cannoneer fires faster bullets, which would win in a pistol duel ? "This indian tradeport is too small for the both of us !"

Hi, Spirit. Pretty sure many civs ended up with more than 1 fact that didn't make it into the final version of the video. How about another video with "Random number of random facts about all civs"? Oh, no problem if you want more than one video! 😁

Offtopic question: Do you plan to bring "Aoe2 vs History" series back? I am a history nerd so I loved those.

hey, more facts! i love those. thanks spirit

Mangudai are badass warriors of the steppes, the progression into a more civilized age wouldn't raise their HP, but give them better gear, makes total sense for me 🐎

I always wondered why they didn't keep the Longboat garrison considering Vikings main thing was raiding. For example 5 pop for Longboats, 10 pop for Elite Longboats. No additional cost so that it makes sense to make them instead of Galleons cost wise. It would actually make them unique units, which they are supposed to be - in addition to being historically accurate. Then again I might have a bias because I'm Norwegian...

That Viking tech would have made them so much cooler to play. I’m a little upset now to know they took that out of the game

Waiting for "1 more fact about each civilisation" series

I played one old versión of AoE2 with Hunting Dogs. In fact, since AoE2+Conquerors is still a popularly pirates game in latinamerica, I wouldn't be surprised to see the tech on café internets.

I desperately hope we get a Tibetans civ eventually

I think Magyars should start the game with a hunting dog unit. Incas start with a llama, after all. The doggo would have limited LOS but could "sniff out" hunt and herdables. They would be vulnerable to wolves, though, for balance, but a villager could always head out as his doggo is running home and go strike that wolf down. The dog could basically be given its "hunt" command, similar to patrol, and he'd go directly to the nearest animal out in the fog of war, whether that happens to be a sheep or a deer or a boar. The doggo wouldn't work beyond a certain distance from a villager (maybe 10 tiles idk) so he couldn't just be sent out across the map to lame. Slower than a scout but faster than a villager, the doggo could push deer. So Magyars wouldn't gather any resource faster, but would be able to find all their hunt and sheep really quickly and have help pushing deer so the scout can go scout the map. That doesn't seem overpowered to me, especially when compared to the Mongols hunt bonus plus scout LOS bonus. Plus, doggo.

1:05 I recall seeing this once in some early AoF footage but it's interesting to see how much Forgotten Empires have taken from Age of Mythology (where this same tech is used in high hunt maps) even well into DE. Doing mechanical comparisons might make for an interesting video.

I think the AOE2 Devs took a Mel Gibson 'Apocalypto' approach to the El Dorado tech. "Aztec, Mayan... potayto potahto~"

Another interesting point on the bonus damage that cements that is samurai do extra damage against genitours as well

Can you do a video on all the changes from AoK to AoC, so removal of certain gunpowder techs, harald hardrada becomes a berseek instead of a monk, longboats still say they can carry units etc. Also how different the meta used to be/how differently scenarios play without bloodlines etc

The samurai thing isn't all that surprising. It applies to unique unit *types*, not unique *upgrades*.

This is so fun! It would be cool if you had the civilization name over the background (or those timestamps that you can mouse over the video and see them), for videos where there are every/many civs.

Poles can regenerate as long as they know they have a place to drink at after the fight.

Wait wait wait!!! The bracer tech icon.... is a bracer? I've always thought it looked like a kind of small cannon firing.

Teutons got so many bonus facts in this one!!!

Seeing Lombards and other scrapped civs makes me realy want Dark Age of Empires. Just set between AoE 1 and AoE 2 during fall of Roman Empire and early medieval period. We already have a lot of civs out of place in AoE2 (Celts, Huns, Goths)...

10:38 Those onager shots were helpful for my practical mindset...

Wow. All the facts were so very mildly interesting.

the reason Condos take Bonus damage from Samurais and Imp Skirms and Camels dont is the way armor classes work and unit upgrades cant add an armor class for some reason.

Hi Spirit, I've a request, can you make a short video on how Devs apply different changes to civilizations. It will be fun to check the technical side of the Game we love so much

Lovely video

He named Venezuela in a video :O

I think that the name of the mayan unique tech was a reference to the movie The road to El Dorado, which was released in March 2000, months before the release of The Conquerors expansion. In that movie the city of El Dorado was based in the maya civilization. But I guess we will never know the true, unless we ask someone who worked in the game.

This might be a mess for balance, but it would be cool if Vikings didn't get transports, but instead used the long boats, and had a dark/feudal-age variant of it that auto upgraded like the eagle scout.

Mildly Interesting Trivia thing to add to 1:05: Hunting Dogs is still a tech in Age of Mythology, where it is pretty much picked up asap on all land maps.

Skirmishers are also affected by the briton UT for +1 range on foot archers which is fun

These videos were very fun

Arquebus fact you missed: Portuguese Bombard Towers with both Ballistics and Arquebus lose the ballistics benefit and stop trying to track enemy movement.

I've always thought that longboats should have garrison space! Didn't know that was in the beta. I think your reasoning for the imp camel and skirm is spot on, it would be hugely frustrating/confusing to upgrade a unit and have it perform worse (they should fix war galley micro)

We really need several forgotten empires style expansions for the first age of empires. Scythians would be great for a steppe nomads expansion

Spirit of the law: Video request! Quick wall/ unfinished buildings or buildings under construction stats. And how easily an onager or mangonel can destroy an unfinished building. For example I play arena. Instead of castle dropping, I build mangonels and put next to wall. If I get castle dropped they kill the castle right when being built. In theory. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. You know why? How much damage I need? How many vills I need to prevent from happening to me?

The samurai unit has the most neurotic idle animation I have ever seen. Constantly checking if his sword is still there. :D

7:20 now i want a TRIVIA for the game itself ps. the one thing it made me think about: i appreciate the devs hard work!

I remember when the game came out there were more units that showed a garrison door. I'm not sure but i think it was the ram or the scout cavalry. and maybe more

That teuton fact is kinda intriguing

The mayan fact got me thinking: which civs are the most historically accurate and which civs are the least accurate? Obviously, this might be a pretty subjective ranking, but it would be interesting to come up with some sort of scoring system to rank civs by in order to get a definitive answer.

Impressive, very nice. Now lets see paul Allen's civ list

Well that was mildly intresting!

4:18 hm i liked playing them cause their buildings look so nice :D

Watching those alpha longboat graphics makes me appreciate the beauty of how far aoe2 has come along from ideas to execution.

Sicilians' huge resistance to conversion makes sense since I confirm they are extremely loyal and legated to Sicily 😅

09:00 The Devs: "I knew I forgot something!"

I love the background music in your videos, Are tracks from the game?

That unique unit quirk about Vietnamese not only applies to Samurais, but also applies to availability in All-Techs mode: Imp Skirm and Imp Camel are different from Condos and Genitours in terms of availability to the civs in all techs (I think the first 2 are available, and Condos and Genitours are not, but not certain). Similar with Feitorias vs Kreposts vs Donjons: their behavior is not consistent between Portuguese / Bulgarians / Sicilians. It'd be great if you could look into this; maybe the devs just never worked out the rule and All Techs mode is just an afterthought.

A more interesting fact about the Magyars is that they were considered to be added to the conquerors edition, but they replaced by the Huns instead because they weren't popular enough. On that same note, what civ bonuses would have the Scythians had? What would have been their unique unit? What general priniple would have their techtree abide to? Lastly, could I have a link for that FE blogpost?

damn I was looking forward to a fact about a civ starting with Z

There was a ceremony in which a king or high priest covered himself in gold dust and jumped into a lake to give the gold to the gods, it was described by the Spanish as el hombre dorado

I would love to see what these Tibetans looked like. I wonder how they compare to my interpretation of the Tibetans?

I find Sicilians to have a very interesting fun fact. Especially because Monks annoy me to no end in the campaign, incentivising me to always get Heresy. So having +6 conversion resistance is very appealing to me.

I literally just finished watching the first part 😲 What sorcery is this!?

Vikings loosing access to basic transport ship in favor of being able to transport units in longboats that would also improve longboats attack a tiny bit while transporting is really cool and unique idea for AoE2 where vikings kinda lack original identity. They'd need to get much weaker variant in feudal age but still, it's a shame we didn't get it in such form.

4:18 Me versus the guy she tells me not to worry about

Hey i think ( i am sure) celtes lack bracer but have access to arba so not unique to malians. Keep up the good works and sorry i am one of those that get asleep thx to your vidéo

What would happen with sarecan archer building bonus and imperial skirms that fire a second projectile? Would they be super seige weapons?

I think the reason samurais don't do extra damage against elite skirmishers and camels is because even tho they're unique upgrades, they aren't an unique line of unit, since most civs have the base version of them. I think a better wording for the samurai is "deal extra damage to unique line of units", which would cover the castle units, the few unique boat units and the condotierro.

Is it possible the Japanese unit thing is actually a limitation gameplay wise? So like I imagine that in order for the "Upgrades" to work the units are just getting a buff not unlike the blacksmith upgrades, it's just calvalier -> paladin also changes the picture and name? As such at their core or at least in the engine they're all the same base unit, so to give the japanese unit it's ability it'd basically have to get it against base camel and base skirmisher.

Longboats as fighting Transports came back for Age of Mythology, and actually stuck that time.

Am I the only person who never knew there was a tech called hunting dogs?

9:50 So do Samurai get an attack bonus vs shrivamsha riders and xolotl warriors since they're their own unit line? And would Samurai not get an attack bonus vs winged hussar and houfnice since they're a unique upgrade of normal unit lines like imp skirm and imp camel?

So, do Samurai do bonus damage to longboats?

There should be a missing historical techs video where you point out how every Civ is missing 1 tech you feel they should have. A few examples are the Chinese missing block printing even though they invented it and the Mongols missing Parthian tactics which were their main method of fighting similar to the Britons Missing thumb ring etc

Someone got their way eventually. In age of mythology the norse longboats can be garrisoned

Im pretty sad to learn that they had a great idea for longboat. However I can see how a 'transport ship that shoots back" Would be considered unfair to Galleon captains.

Now I really wish for a Tibetan civilization. :(

Nice

NASTY onager shot at 10:40

In the previous episode, the interesting fact for Khmers was that the correct pronunciation is something like Khmai. I don't even try to explain the pronunciation for Magyars, but as a Hungarian, you can trust me that most of you get it completely wrong. 😂

Are there any units which gain or lose armour classes when upgraded? Doesn't seem like a technical limitation but it's odd if there wouldn't be a single case.

Here’s an idea: Polynesian civilization Unique units: Sawtooth Warrior - a foot soldier unit that can swim on water and do extra damage to ships. Wayfinder boat: boat that can “travel on land” with warriors getting off the boat and carrying it inland. Idea for this is from the Flying Dutchman cheat in AoE1

I always thought it was weird that long boats couldn't transport troops

I'd count the Persians as having 3. As it's more like T.C. & Docks have 100% more H.P. Then T.C. & Docks have 10, 15, then 20% faster working rate in the Feudal, Castle & Imperial Ages respectively.

I would love to see the Vikings split up into Danes, Norwegians and Swedes, with their own shared Architecture, and each with the Longboat as a shared regional unit. One of these could have a Unique Tech that granted carrying capacity to Longboats

5:28 bombard tower is mentioned twice though

That's mad that the Teutonic Scout Cavalry can beat the Korean Hussar!

Does then samurai have bonus damage against genitour ,being UU and do not continue any existing unit line

8:10 No content warning for the Stable tech tree? Or was that some other Civ?

They should add the Lombards tbf

At 7:27, shouldn’t there also be Thumb ring, Chemistry and Ballistics for Skirmishers to be fully upgraded? (If I’m not forgetting any other techs)