Today's patch 1.1 changed how players can interact with landed heirs. Now, they can marry them off. It's still not a great strategic choice, though, for the other reasons articulated.

The biggest mistake I always make is not setting an alarm for when I should turn off the game and go to sleep.

I have ADHD and the hyper focus that happens to me in this game is insane!

slight problem with point 1, just disinherit the worst kids and give them land. They got no claim to the throne, pose no threat and will ally themselves with you, making sure you have a strong power base. You can even have made them to be amazing chancellors. Quick edit, you can also just marry them off before gifting land?

I always try to get at least five sons, then give them all land on a small island like ireland or sardinia, and let them battle it out

You deserve more subscribers for sure. I’ve watched many CK3 guides now, not only was this information I’ve been looking for, but didn’t find anywhere else, it was also very funny.

There is couple of reasons to give land to your kids. One of them being succession. Early game, when i find myself in a bind, dealing with the partition succession and i dont want my main realm to split, i go counquer couple of counties or a dutchy and give it to the kid that is not my heir. That leaves my main holdings intact and i could later claim it back with my son if i die myself. If you are about to die (know thyself comes in handy) you can marry your unwanted son off to some old... lady before you give him any titles so he wont end up making heirs of his own... gives you more time to figure out creative ways how to get rid of him and inherit the lands back with your heir after he takes over.

I'm not fully disagreeing with you but if you don't give your kids land their heirs will never create Cadet Branches and my best playthough I was unstoppable because of CB

I dont see a lot of ck3 videos rn so if you keep this quality content up i can definitely see you growing very quick!

This is great Riz; you’re a genuinely funny guy, and these vids are just long enough to retain my attention but also teach me something 👏

Good stuff Riz!

I agree with you 100% I was playing as Ireland gave my player heir the kingdom of Scotland so I wouldn’t lose it during an election. Literally with in a year lost the Kingdom and he was Assassinated.

I give always Land to my kids after they get a partner and works great. They seldom rebells and your power grow very fast, as a Dynastie. As a head of the Dynastie you could trippel this power. As a Viking after 4 generation I attacked Byzanz and won.

Great Video, Thanks

I had such an awesome kingdom, but I married my daughter with land off to my neighbor and all of my vassals that loved me started to hate me instantly as my player character died and my heir came in. All of my Vassals allied with my daughter that was married and I instantly lost all my territory to war within a minute due to instant rebellion. Is that why? Did I give my kids land so they all thought they deserved the kingdom?

So question; when it comes to vassal organization and management: do I go for owning all the land inside 2 duchies (or as much as possible, the best counties with the most baronies?) Or do you pick random counties from the entire realm and say "MINE -- DO NOT TOUCH" and then give the duchy title away to really shitty vassals, then slam-jam them underneath a weak ass duke? IE; lets say I'm in Castille. I pick 2 duchy titles that I want to be mine underneath my Kingdom title of Castille, say Leon and Galicia. Do I go and own all the counties (or as many as possible) in those 2 duchys, and ignore any other counties outside of those two? Do I even bother to create every other duchy (if not already created) if I'm not at my vassal limit? Do I bother giving every duke their de-jure vassals (if I haven't already)? Does the de-jure duchy capitol matter? (ie de-jure duchy capitol of Leon is the county of Leon; Should I hold this if I plan to hold the duchy? if I give it away, should I consider giving the owner of the county the duchy title, or just give them any random province and say fuck 'em and let them sort it out?) What to do about additional land gained later on? for example, I start expanding to create Spain; as I'm expanding the duchy of Toledo looks pretty tasty. Do I give up land in my 2 original duchy titles to obtain a few counties out of this new duchy? Do I forsake a previous duchy title for one that's not de-jure part of my current primary title of castille? (Toledo is de-jure part of the kingdom of andalusia IIRC) Do I even bother to create the duchy title, or if it exists, destroy the title?

Ive never given land to my kids... but this latest go, I am giving it to my kids for more family renown. Its makes it harder, but greater.

Another good video!

I’m more flabbergasted at HOW YOU BECAME KING OF IRELAND IN 22 YEARS

Seems to me the major exception is if you're playing for renown, no? Maybe you want to keep Ireland all to yourself, or hand it off to capable but unrelated stewards, but if you happen to carve out a little chunk of Francia for yourself that pushes you over your domain limit, why not pass it on to your kid? Dynasty members who are your own vassals won't generate renown, but dynasty members who have independent holdings will.

This has to be the longest someone has stalled to make a point in the whole of youtube

I am just going back to the basics for ideas and things I missed... And I agree. Kids are absolutely terrible as vassals. I just stick them in council positions, marry the ones not heiring out to weaker principalities, or disinterest. Good vid and enjoy the delivery. Glad I found this

Good point, as I was on the brink of "giving land to my kids"..

Hello, I have a question for you or for other players. How can I give other vassals a duchy? During the game, I get the message "Too many duchies", which is why I lose a lot of feedback with vassals. My domain limit is 9, of which I have about 19 principalities. I play Ireland, I have conquered Wales, Scotland, England. I would like to convey to the vassals, for example, the Supreme Commander of Iceland - but when I click "give", I get the message "No suitable characters found". What should I do in such a situation? Please help. :)

I found it's better to have family as allies rather than vassals. I was playing as Scotland and conquered "Lothian", a duchy controlled by the Ivarling vikings. I gave my second son the lands and was able to make an alliance with him. It means having high opinion allies that provide you 1000+ troop army with men at arms etc, rather than just some levies. When they are part of your house you can also "Call House into War" without cost

I mean, I think it's fine to land your kids as long as they're not your heir and second in line. I like to see my house have multiple Duchies. I'm more of a roleplayer though to be fair. I don't totally cheese the congenital traits.

How can I get u landed folks with high stewardship?

I made the mistake of giving a lot of land to my heir, I was over 60 and thought I might die soon, what's the harm. Before the succesion, they became an adulterer, got ovethrown in a rebellion and even got excommunicated. I was so fucking mad and shocked. That was too quick.

-start as vassal under karling -make your primary duchies feudal elective -give extra land to sons -build a fat chest of gold and levies -ask pope for claim on kingdom -slap the king -form HRE, the best empire title in the game and electors who will always vote as you do -gg I guess it's not so much giving your kids land but your dynasty.

What if your kid is an adult and you have picked out the right spouse, and the kid isn't your heir?

I cant even get the fucking thing to unpause so i can start the war

If you don't land your kids, how are you supposed to deal with Partition as a tribe then? You NEED to land them or the game is going to randomly hand out your titles when you die creating all sorts of title gore (like one kid having counties inside of a duchy owned by his brother and vice versa) where you could simply distribute it beforehand and avoid all of it.

What to do with all my sons then? I have like 5 sons. I want to somewhat have a say in how the land gets distributed instead of it randomly assigning them provinces. Can't i arrange their marrages first and then land them? I want to max renown in this run (2nd playthough). I can't obviously marry them all off and then kill all their wives siblings in a timely manner. What do you recommend i do with excess sons/daughters?

I'm still learning to play my current character rather than the dynasty or empire god

Any plans to upload and play throughs?

Me watching right after giving land to all my kids😂 big rip

If you are a steward you will be able to avoid the "too many holdings penalty" up to about 7-10 holdings. You can give titles to old childless couples who are too old to have children. If they are already your council members all the better. If your vassal dies without an heir you inherit the title. You can choose chaste to reduce the number of heirs or you can marry an old wife or marry a chaste wife.

All i do is 100 stats and conquer kingdoms dutchy by dutchy and give it to my kids hoping to get the dynasty of many crowns so far Denmark navarra and norway are independent as well as a kingdom near Byzantine who have Rome as the seat of power but we also hold Jerusalem west Francia the kingdom island next to Rome land in Island we have Aquitaine but not under my dynasty control and maybe India could be my next conquest, but the point of this is all I do is give my kids and grandkids land

Why is this video not the top video on this topic. I’m like 200 hours into CK3 and this probably would’ve saved me so much stress

Yes, but when I want to give out land to my daughters husband and my most powerful knight, how can I keep their loyalty upon succession. I can deal with my sons, its is my vassals that threaten my stability.

"Oh I've played a good amount of CK2 and 3 I'm sure I'll see this and be a little more in sync with the community" "Do not give land to your kids" "..."

What if my kid has a high stewardship?

[3:44] Goddammit. I want fried chicken now. 🤣

Unlanded characters don't earn lifestyle xp, though. Don't want to kick the bucket and end up playing as my 47 year old son without any perks.

What if you disinherit them?

"Murcod" no.. that means name is Mr Chad

Me watching this after I've formed Ireland and given out 2 of the Dutchys to my sons🤡🤡🤡

... not saying you are wrong per se, but having a lot of low-tier (counts) sons and nephews allows you to stop their wars for free as a dynasty heir. Also, if they ever get out of your domain (marriage, independence) you get extra renown for your dynasty. All in all, there's a strategy to abuse in there, somewhere.

did you mean "Not ruler" 5:59 ?

I watched this after just giving away half of Iceland, (my main title) to my heir, UGH! Big mistake, anyway thank you I will not make this mistake again!

I think this honestly plays against the games core mechanics but that's just my opinion. Giving land to your kids, grandkids etc keeps your rule inside your dynasty. If your head of house which you pretty much always are you can simply revoke titles pretty much at will and shift them around to who you want to control what. If you give your titles and land off to other houses you don't have that option other than tyrannical acts of revoking titles for no reason at all. Claming titles as head of house and then revoking them is not an act of tyranny. There's much easier ways to deal with spouses of other family members and youvcan also just outright not give them land until you betrothed them to who you want. It might be that I prefer the RP but I personally don't want my primary landmass to be owned by anyone outside of my Dynasty/family. I want as much of my valuable assets to remain inside the bloodline.

But.. partition?

My daughter asked to annul a betrothal that would hand a large kingdom over to my dynasty, because the guy was a douche. I annulled it, conquered the land, and handed it to her. Don't let anyone decide the rules for you.

Me in crusaders kings III: my 3 boys have a duchy ! Also me: 2 boys have no inheritances 😂

Good thing I'm very greedy and selfish in this game I try to only help my player heirs and hender my family members from growth I've also had some horrible family experiences in this game so fuck em all I tried being nice and that got me much trouble

so dont give any lands to my kids? just marry them off to create powerful alliances right? do i just allow the succession laws to do its thing by default and whoever is next in line takes all my titles? i always have that problem when my main king dies, once he dies and my son takes place of king, all the vassals hate him and end up waging war against him resulting in my land being broken apart and me being driven to the corner of a county that was once a part of a great kingdom.

Give land to your kids...

thank you i will not be giving land to my kids

This doesn't address after you die and all your kids split your land.. then kill you in a revolt. As soon as I die my land is gone, money gone, army gone.. So I end up king of a broke, defenseless landless ruler.

My kids don't get shit. 1 gets the kingdom, the rest get married to powerful neighbors so they stop invading me, and so they can respond quickly to my calls to war.

I agree 100 percent: "don't give land to your kids" cause they end up betraying you and claiming on your throne and leaving you without anything! Personally, I prefer to grant titles to my vassals even if they don't have high opinions, but I always increase there taxes or levies with the deal. Of course, they must be at least the same religion.

had a friend tell me to do it, now I know not to do it

I keep trusting my kids with Kingdoms, i take over almost entire Europe, converts everyone to my own Asatru, there is only Byzantium and parts of Spain, boom my character die and my Empire is divided between 3-5 Kingdoms, by the time i manage to ''Somehow'' take them all back, there isn't any time to take Byzantium before this character dies as well and if i am lucky, it's only split in half... Then i have to murder these Kings, hoping that their sons are less powerful.

i think the eugenics part of the game is dumb. however aside that. the lack of control that follows giving your children titles really can cripple your next character. i also notice that more often than not titles under the same dynasty will consolidate given time so one will eventually have to fight a huge and powerful vassal.

Does this advice apply to real life?

I'm confused. You can marry them off etc..

Or just merry them first? 🤨

Don't care, my 20 kids populated the world and have no one to fight with and sleep with but each other. Impossible to open the dynasty tree.

Brian has trash stats and he's stupid but the game wants to tempt you into giving him your lands anyway if he's still your defacto heir when you die on tutorial Ireland/island. Just like real medieval timez! It's all about the roleplay.

Give land to my vassals instead of my kids which i can desinherit?? Playing with Westerners countries might be the right call, but too lame to play the same land and dynasty in every strategy game- I’m Bulgarian and I play my realm with a custom character. After few generations if you give land to vassals they rebbel against you due to different cultures!So my vassals will get no lad from me- only my dynasty which i try to create very carefully and eventually you end up with no bad choice of marriage! Also big factor is the fact that you need alliances and vassals that cannot go against you and the only way to go is if you are family! Try to conquer Byzantine empire, Khazars, Jerosalim and Egypt while uniting the South Slavs… it’s a mess- get your kids that most of the time will be true to you and desinherit them all! Later stage some might be claimants, but you assassinate the claimants and the war is over! Not to mention if you want to control provinces or kingdoms in you realm? You split kingdoms among children not vassals! Pretty soon they would go rouge and try independence faction! You own 3 kingdoms and couple of duchies- you keep the strongest and let the heir inherit the 2nd strongest. The 3rd one is either given to the 3rd or 4th children and you allow them to get some duchies and counties so they can defend themselves or expand- potentially growing your empire without you being involved in a costly endless warfare! Kids all they way! Go genius, go beautifull, herculian, keep one faith, culture and progress! Western game play is so easy- you already deal with a Karolingians and well established Catholic faith!

Too late lol

liked the content of the video, but could have done without the silly little pics of crying kids and large font screens of nonsense. But appreciate the tips!

Am I the only one that finds this game WAY too complicated?

I came to yell things at you but the first comment literally shows your as good a KZfaqr as I thought you were amazing video !!!!🫱🏽‍🫲🏾