$1 vs $2000 Firefly

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In this video, Mr Pokke will be testing in depth all of Firefly eidolons along with his lightcone.
This video will thoroughly cover the character kit, eidolons, energy threshold, speed threshold, relics, lightcones, and team compositions.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:16 Teams / Setup
02:29 E0 S0 On the Fall of an Aeon
08:39 E0 S1
14:01 Firefly with No Ruan Mei
17:30 E1 S1
19:05 E2 S0
21:40 E2 S1
22:51 E3, E4, E5
24:43 E6 S1
27:44 E6 S5 Firefly and E6 S5 Ruan Mei
30:35 Conclusion
32:38 Real Outro
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@mrpokkee Ай бұрын

Not chat missing the point of the vid with 'ohno e6 rm showcase' when shes there from e0s0 all the way to e6s5. Thats the purpose of a BENCHMARK. Also yes E2 has 1T cooldown!

@subtitled6786 Ай бұрын

Defense down stacking overemphasizes e1 effect bro so that skews the e1 vs s1 comparison

@crownlix5064 Ай бұрын

Nah pokke, e0 ff pair with e6 rm make the benchmark off. I mean sure you can see the differences anyway with e0 ff to e6 ff, but still e6 rm does so much work behind the scene that kinda taint the firefly benchmark.

@mrpokkee Ай бұрын

@@crownlix5064 there will be no benchmark for a ff without ruanmei, pela/asta is not a substitute.

@treasure9342 Ай бұрын

U say it's a benchmark but ngl..........the difference is that e6 increase the dmg by so much purely cause of the break dmg Ruan Mei does and since firefly always breaks.......so even though it's a benchmark.........Ruan mei is doing so much it could be her own showcase cause she is doing so much for the team

@ignultimate9162 Ай бұрын

I think you can do the same video with your account since you got ourfly.

@Inagico Ай бұрын

7:25 Half of the DMG being Ruan Mei LMAOO

@XeosYT Ай бұрын

lmao her dmg 224k alone pretty insane

@Inagico Ай бұрын

@@XeosYT On that clip she has e6 Ruan Mei Ult, meaning she has the extra Pen, Harmony TB Ult for BE and the Gallagher Ult's Break Debuff increasing received Damage. That's not even her "alone" damage my man 😥

@grass7560 Ай бұрын

Firefly didn’t even superbreak lmao, she doesn’t do “literally half” of Firefly’s own damage

@pally3370 Ай бұрын

yea the res pen, def ignore and atk buff carrying tf outta firefly lmfao from rm eidolons, and then the rm break from e6 does more break than firefly LOL

@blinxguy Ай бұрын

Man's saving Gallagher's ult for the next MoC

@k.t.aidara3989 Ай бұрын

Fun fact: you don't have to wait for firefly's technique, if you press it while in the air she immediately attacks

@fredxu99 Ай бұрын

The highly relatable Ruan Mei might be doing a little work here 😂

@Moiz88819 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@SerraAbyssAlisaris Ай бұрын

Nah She performs the Same with E0S0 RM.

@_TheStormThatIsApproaching Ай бұрын

@@SerraAbyssAlisarisno

@fredxu99 Ай бұрын

@@SerraAbyssAlisaris The E1 comparison gets skewed because of RM's DEF shred at E1 with how def shred stacks; if it's all E0 characters, the S1 and E1 would be almost equivalent in gain. Ruan Mei is also doing ~176k break even with the bricked build, an E0 Ruan Mei isn't even doing anywhere near half of that, so any kind of cycle performance here requires a grain of salt. EDIT: and also percentage calculations get skewed if E6 RM is a larger portion of the damage. If you remove 176k from each of the numbers, the % increase in each FF investment would be larger relatively speaking, like the LC would be closer to 16% increase not 10% as he says in the vid. I just think it's a bit dishonest to do comparisons with an E6 RM, should have found a different account to test this on but I guess it's unlikely a whale will have E6 FF and not E6 RM.

@0v_x0 Ай бұрын

There's really no way to compensate for def shred on break damage, that E1 doing work for sure, stacking with relic set Edit: I just realized she's E6 not E2, yeah the break damage on E6 alone makes this incomparable to E0. Firefly still busted but saying it's identical with E0 RM is pure cap

@bluechicken8626 Ай бұрын

I'm guessing the comment section is going to discuss E6 Ruan Mei 😅

@fakecodm3003 Ай бұрын

They did on boothill

@Brainiac-gb7jq Ай бұрын

its each video man

@akumaruuuuu Ай бұрын

Trully one of MrRelatable moment of all time

@SerraAbyssAlisaris Ай бұрын

The No RM Edit Portion was Crazy.

@MapleYum Ай бұрын

I’m clutching my one copy of memories of the past. Cannot get that LC to drop at all.

@sycamorewest Ай бұрын

same same - just pure copium

@UltimatePollo3495 Ай бұрын

I have not got resolutions shines of pearl once its pissing me off lol

@Jimmyd1516 Ай бұрын

Yeah I pulled on both fireflys light cone and ruan meis light cone and got both in 1 10 pull each, wanted more memories 4-star lightcone

@Izumi144 Ай бұрын

I have that lightcone at s10😂

@Juryll Ай бұрын

INSANE outro om

@yotsuba361 Ай бұрын

It's not even 2 seconds in the video, and I already thought I'm at 2x speed 😂

@flashamvs_ Ай бұрын

I love firefly. Just a whole lotta BOOMS

@XelnagaPo Ай бұрын

Hi! I love the videos/information that you put out, and your stuff has really helped me make my account better in honkai. However, I think the information on her E2 not having a cooldown is wrong E2 firefly actually has a 1 turn downtime before she can actually proc the additional turn from breaking again. You can't really tell from this MOC because of the extra turn you get from the trotters resetting the cooldown, but if you try to use her in pure fiction it becomes noticeable-- on her second ult turn you don't get an extra turn even if you break/kill an enemy. Therefore her turns are going to be Normal turn 1: Skill-> E2 turn Normal turn 2: Skill Normal turn 3: Skill-> E2 turn turn 4: Skill etc This made her a lot worse than I expected especially for pure fiction, but I was still able to (barely) clear 40k with her team Also sorry for pinging in discord :( Forgot wasn't supposed to do that

@janablom823 Ай бұрын

In an ideal scenario it's still a 50% damage increase, which is insane for an E2 eidolon. I'm curious how you only barely cleared PF. My E2S1 Firefly absolutely rolled it with 2 cycles to spare

@XelnagaPo Ай бұрын

@@janablom823 Hm I'm not sure. My firefly is able to kill everything in 1 hit but I feel like there are just too many mobs to kill 3 at a time. I just tried it twice more and both times it was still barely clearing with 10-30 avs left in the lasst cycle Is your gallaghar able to wipe a wave with his ultimate? Mine is built super poorly and isn't able to. If you are able to, that might be the difference maker since that's essentially saving 1 or 2 firefly actions if you can kill 5 enemies with gallaghar ult

@delulu_soup Ай бұрын

pokke is faster than ever with his limitless yap technique 😂 (lowkey thought i was watching 1.5x spd even though i knew hes fast)

@TheDragonWrestling03 Ай бұрын

literally what is even the point of showcasing this with an E6 Ruan Mei

@SerraAbyssAlisaris Ай бұрын

Because FF isn't a unit without RM.

@wafIeee Ай бұрын

Dawg ungrateful as fuck

@zephronic1062 Ай бұрын

I don't see the issue with it. You still get to see the difference in performance based on FF's eidolons and light cone. The only difference is the floor and ceiling of your overall damage output will be lower with an E0 Ruan Mei, but that doesn't matter because you still get a good idea of how the eidolons/light cone affect FF's gameplay.

@nicemoreoften7178 Ай бұрын

@@SerraAbyssAlisaris ff is certainly a good unit with e0s0 ruan mei: high eidolon RM definitely exaggerates e1/e2 ff a bit though (still a decently large improvement)

@vinhinh6810 Ай бұрын

the only significant change is e1, e2 doesn't really do anything, e4 and e6 are for RM's personal dmg

@pentagramexe Ай бұрын

E2 literally cleared in less moves than E6 S5 LMAO

@HSRFirefly Ай бұрын

Because E6s5 killed the enemy faster moving the boss sooner thus the shield also gets to move sooner

@theteamxxx3142 Ай бұрын

pay 2 lose

@jumpinjoe7616 Ай бұрын

While watching this video I pulled for e1 firefly, lost the 50/50 to bronya then the very next ten pull got firefly. Thank you Mr.Pokke 😊

@yansentang2341 Ай бұрын

Damn it's 2x speed again

@Sinitsu Ай бұрын

Damn never realized how fast he speaks, put him down to 0.75

@darko6115 Ай бұрын

bros got the default 1.25 speed 😂

@solarenity 21 күн бұрын

fr i wish hed talk a bit slower its hard to keep up

@RisahKin Ай бұрын

Editor is clutching:)

@khanhtham1812 Ай бұрын

If you have Gallagher's ult ready when Argenti enter then 0 cycle with E1S0 is definitely doable

@ArclightLuna Ай бұрын

Blazing firefly, The virtuous

@Guishow_ Ай бұрын

this mf yap so fast that i legit thought the video was on 1.5

@thestickoffiery3009 Ай бұрын

4:54 💀

@rax7352 Ай бұрын

4:56 nah this shit is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@HeshO-yi3hh Ай бұрын

11:55 also here the one in the middle got break+supahbreak tech you can see the first FF attack delete weakness and eat a chunk of the elite health and the super break, also the same happened in E6S1 25:25 and the same at the end 27:25

@FeddyNotLeady Ай бұрын

holy shit the editor really took one for the team at the end 😭

@cronoluminara6911 Ай бұрын

Lmao great job editor

@ninetyninenights6226 Ай бұрын

Honestly, her 2 supports are the hardest to gear. So you mean to say, I have to have them both over 154 spd when I barely even reached 145 for Talia on my Harmony MC to get the secondary set effect LOL.

@james79326 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I end up using vonwaq for RM and HMC because I don’t feel like farming for the speed subs

@solarenity 21 күн бұрын

@@james79326theyre really not necessary i promise you. just 134 speed is fine

@pokestevers71 Ай бұрын

Harmony character with break support and action forward skill 🤑🤑🤑

@ryohikari1853 Ай бұрын

Chat is so dented

@fattyflip4168 Ай бұрын

Not the death counter 💀

@ghotyolocanisyn2880 Ай бұрын

E2 is overkill. So I only went with E1S0 and E1 Fast Mei. The light cone is bait. So I’ll just be using S5 Indelible Promise or my S1 Jingliu LC.

@XiasGaming Ай бұрын

I confirmed, My Firefly E0S0 with RM E1 made 1 cycle clear vs Argenti.

@CufflinksAndChuckles Ай бұрын

Got RM in 60 pulls, LC in 20 pulls. I’ll probably grab Firefly on a rerun, but damn is it hard not to spend money rn.

@FD-wl7xq Ай бұрын

After seeing the E0S0 dmg.I now feel nice and confident with my 800k E0S0 boothill

@JJennerUK Ай бұрын

800k to a single target with massive downtime or 400k every single turn. There's a reason FF is Tier 0 and BH is 0.5

@chomosuke0720 Ай бұрын

@@JJennerUKYour Boothill is supposed to build high speed and speed tuned w/ Bronya I have no idea what "massive" downtime you're talking about LMAO. Prydwen again living rent-free in your head even tho they've been warning us not to make their tier list into gospel

@pally3370 Ай бұрын

@@JJennerUK firefly is the one with downtime lol, boothill break efficency is higher, and he does decent personal dmg with crit traces if you build him properly. Firefly is the jingliu of 2.0

@rdr.erased Ай бұрын

Hope those "pull the character that you want not meta" people that skipped RM are not having problems without her

@GoobieWoobie69 Ай бұрын

Doesn't E1 firefly outperform S1 because Ruan Mei E1 makes that defense ignore higher? I could be very wrong though.

@fernandomucaje2128 Ай бұрын

When your supposedly $1 Firefly has cost you your week's salary for that one copy 💀

@ketansingh5220 Ай бұрын

Just a small example of e6 rm

@ucNguyen-ez1xv Ай бұрын

Bro has a built-in 1.25 playback speed.

@tabularasa0393 Ай бұрын

Hanya is a better support for firefly than pela if you don't have ruan mei imo

@Gamer56257 Ай бұрын

I’m convinced they could release a unit that does 90% of acherons damage twice as often and people would still say she’s better because all they look at is one big number

@vegitoblue6969 Ай бұрын

are you just ignoring e6 ruan mei 200k per skill comes from her e6 alone

@Gamer56257 Ай бұрын

⁠@@vegitoblue6969this isn’t even about firefly I just mean generally, but you can subtract the ruan mei numbers or legit look at any other E0S1 firefly showcase that doesn’t have E6 Ruan Mei and the damage is still insanely high

@kieryu2314 Ай бұрын

@@Gamer56257Firefly’s team is nearly BIS atp while Acheron still has yet to get the equivalent for her teams. Not a fair comparison yet

@chomosuke0720 Ай бұрын

I'm convinced that you could point out FF literally has Ruan Mei while Acheron is yet to get her 5 star Nihility equivalent and people will still say FF is better because of some tier list they saw on the internet

@ochamboii8455 Ай бұрын

i watched this on 0.75 speed and he actually sounds normal for once XD

@Brainiac-gb7jq Ай бұрын

You guys do realize RM doesn’t discredit how FF is doing insane numbers

@charmander615 Ай бұрын

$1 Firefly, unrelatable.

@digitalmaijiin6236 Ай бұрын

I thought i was on x1.5 speed lol

@keanesn.1513 Ай бұрын

e6 rm showcase

@Red_Ring_Of_Death Ай бұрын

When are we going to get a “How to get Firefly for $1” guide? Lol.

@SerraAbyssAlisaris Ай бұрын

Save ur pulls

@KuroTheDesigner Ай бұрын

Ladies and Gents e6 or e0 ruan mei doesnt matter, because she does the same damage through out the test, she's a constant, some of yall did not pay attention in grade school science class

@gym4379 Ай бұрын

Yes but no one at e0 both of them will get that performance anyways that's why the complaining

@hereyouare3307 Ай бұрын

Just do them with e0s1 units What's the point with downgraded e6 The whole point of the showcase is to Give viewers a accurate representation of numbers 🤷 E6 units in most of your showcase videos makes every calculation mostly redundant

@leightonx7430 Ай бұрын

I believe pokke's logic during the stream was that he's focusing more so on the relative differences between each eidolon/superimposition. In that sense, if he's using a consistent E6 ruan mei across each test, it still gives an accurate representation of relative damage differences. Like it could be E0 or E4 but either way the relative damage differences remains constant.

@fredxu99 Ай бұрын

@@leightonx7430 That doesn't track really because of how the E1s both have DEF shred, and each point of DEF shred gets more valuable the more that you have of it. And yes in the damage difference would be constant, but he's mathing out percentages, which do not stay constant if you remove E6 RM's damage. If you take the numbers in the video and remove 176k ice damage from each of them, the percentage difference in FF upgrades is much larger than what he reports in the video (like 16% higher on S1 and not 10% higher as he says).

@leightonx7430 Ай бұрын

@@fredxu99 yea I agree, I am pretty sure having E1 Ruan mei alone will already inflate the relative damage differences. I was a bit sus of pokke's reasoning but it is what it is I guess.

@1987jjl Ай бұрын

You can't just remove eidolons off your characters. Trying to actually find an account with E6S5 Firefly (massive whale account) that doesn't already have E6S5 Ruan Mei is probably impossible unless you dish out a few grand on a brand new account.

@zenitsuyaboi9879 20 сағат бұрын

He can't lower eidolon levels

@tOfUdried Ай бұрын

Honestly a lot of people are missing the point here. This is not exactly meant to be a showcase of firefly. Mr. Pokke is trying to show the differences between eidolons and superimpositions for firefly and her signature. He’s not trying to showcase damage numbers that firefly puts up. Everyone is complaining that he has a e6 Ruan Mei in the party and that it’s skewing numbers but the reality is that the e6 Ruan Mei makes a major difference in showcasing damage but not showcasing the difference between eidolons and superimpositions for Firefly. The only issue with him having the e6 Ruan Mei as part of the team is that it does skew the performances of certain eidolons for FF that include defence shred but for all the people who are getting annoyed about this you have to remember that this isn’t his account so he was just working with what the account has which happens to be a e6 Ruan Mei.

@mills-3-n Ай бұрын

Nice

@chinkyflahz Ай бұрын

e2 so busted...i got 3600 in apoc... using lvl 70 firefly + mc and 60 lc and rainbow gear with trash substats + ruanmei and huohuo 0.0

@wow-bp6vf Ай бұрын

its kinda annoying how they just gave firefly whos already a destruction and bound to do more damage. the better constellations in comparison to boothill. boothill definitely isnt powercrept but yea.

@sljlw Ай бұрын

How tf people already get e6 hmc, i only have e3 her right now😂

@ellieafk Ай бұрын

fr man, i only have e2 because i'm only level 32 of the statue (just started grinding yesterday) and i was starting to lose hope. then i remembered i gotta do it for the damage so i will prevail and max the statue 😔

@fish5612 Ай бұрын

mr pokke has been lacking

@tuananhdang7385 Ай бұрын

To me E6 doesnt seem that insane. Its basically a bit better than BH or the same. And as for damage her single target damage is like 2.5x less than BH

@shermanlaw5223 Ай бұрын

E1 rm or e1 firefly

@koko-hh2bq Ай бұрын

E1 Firefly for better Firefly team, E1 Ruan Mei for better teams in general. Up to you

@Skyeeee03 Ай бұрын

chat is firefly + himeko is viable?😂

@migus926 Ай бұрын

Yall watch him at 0.75, I watch him at 1.75

@Bakstabbah Ай бұрын

Gigawhale

@Reversely Ай бұрын

The only reason I can see why they've put a very bad e4 to FF is due to Acheron. Remember, Acheron is Ei in HSR. In all of their games, Raiden is just busted no matter what the timeline is so she can't get powercrept just yet. Ps. Personally on F2P players, she already did powercrept acheron. Especially if the acheron is only using GNSW.

@valkenhayn412 Ай бұрын

firefly haters grasping at straws is so funny

@notblaster_0 Ай бұрын

4:58 second coming of Hitler leaked💀

@JJennerUK Ай бұрын

If this is a pure FF comparison, should of used Asta or Pela instead of an E6 RM. Disingenuous to be a showcase when her damage is doubled from something next to no-one has

@vashista4583 Ай бұрын

I feel you need rm for sure with ff to do DMG while rm for boothill is just good upgrade he already does more DMG they butchered ff ngl kinghill on top

@Yasuke001 Ай бұрын

OUR girlfriend

@thanonsss Ай бұрын

Bro u talk too fast

@43z24 Ай бұрын

If you're new here i recommend you to watch this guy yap in 0.75x

@angkaiyang8598 Ай бұрын

welcome

@zenitsuyaboi9879 19 сағат бұрын

I see no problem, maybe ur bad at processing information?

@Almaring_Lioght Ай бұрын

What a clown "Budget" Firefly with C6 RuanMei

@zenitsuyaboi9879 19 сағат бұрын

Monkeys use more brain power than u

@wafIeee Ай бұрын

why was he banned? lmao

@luapgr Ай бұрын

Tingyun dakimura

@wafIeee Ай бұрын

@@luapgr did he do something with in on stream?

@luapgr Ай бұрын

@@wafIeee I hope not 💀, cause for the dakimura itself its weird cause she has a lotta clothes on

@drinksmilo Ай бұрын

BRO WTF ARE YOU TALKING

@user-mk5jj4dz6n Ай бұрын

This speed of conversation no longer seems funny.

@YamatoHotsuin Ай бұрын

mr chokke i beg of you pls stop using this E6 Ruan Mei in this "Showcases" it's just impossible to take it serious.

@nm9489 Ай бұрын

yeah... firefly is not better then boothill at e0 s1 or at e6 s5. she just does less damage. doing 1m max at e6 s5 is crazy low.

@HSRFirefly Ай бұрын

Sure bud. Good luck with ur 1 cycle clears on this Break focused MoC while also running sustainless

@omegaklee12345 Ай бұрын

keep coping, she blows every dps out of the water, prob the only dps that can 0 cycle with a sustain. we dont even no wut 5 star gall going to bring into the table and a proper break support instead of ruan mei.

@nm9489 Ай бұрын

@HSRFirefly I'm not talking about moc I'm talking in general, boothill is just better for single target. While Firefly does 500k to 3 targets, boothill does 500k+ to one target.

@nm9489 Ай бұрын

@HSRFirefly you should cry bc it will happen the same way for fifrly you simp

@nm9489 Ай бұрын

@@omegaklee12345 I did a zero cycle with boothill without RM