1 YEAR REVIEW OF BMW R 1250 GS Standard | Likes/Dislikes/Cost of Ownership

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Here it is - after owning my R1250GS for one year, I felt it was time to give a review of my likes/dislikes and cost of ownership and while I do love about the bike, but ownership has not been entirely trouble-free.
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@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

I see we are getting a lot of Comments on why I (Rich) is not doing the oils change myself. Here’s the answer. This bike is still under warranty and I want to keep any doubt of warranty rejection for not having motor issues. When out of warranty I will be doing the services myself.

@40spokes99 2 жыл бұрын

As long as you document in your BMW owners manual the miles, oil filter, lubricants, spark plugs, air filters etc you use, the warranty can’t be voided. Taking photos with a time stamp of the parts will help.

@chadgreniersr5808 2 жыл бұрын

Smart move.

@davidfalgout7304 2 жыл бұрын

@@40spokes99 40 spokes is correct....100%. Plus BMW's know when they are out of warranty. At which point, there is a 50/50 change they become thief's of your money. For the kind of riding y'all do, specially the off road stuff... a Honda 300 would be perfect. Itchy boots rides one all over the world. If honda would build a 350cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank, at the same approximate weight as the 300.... they would flat out own the ADV world!

@davidfalgout7304 2 жыл бұрын

Just a thought y'all have probably had. I have watched all of your videos, so I kind of have a sense of how y'all think. 40 spokes is correct....100%. Plus the BMW knows when it is out of warranty. At which point, there is a 50/50 change they become thief's of your money. For the kind of riding y'all do, specially the off road stuff... a Honda 300 would be perfect. Itchy boots rides one all over the world. If honda would build a 350cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank, at the same approximate weight as the 300.... they would flat out own the ADV world! Rich and Chris....i have owned the 1200GS before. It requires dealer support at times. I also owned the same K bike you did. I got rid of that thing. Left me stranded twice. I was waiting for the exact problem yours had, to happen to me. Thank God I got rid of it before then. As a BMW affection-ado for 40 yrs, and a previous BMW tech.... I came to the sad conclusion that BMW COMPLETELY LOST ITS MOJO- AND I LOST ALL RESPECT for BMW. This all started in or about the year 2000. BMW finally got it back for the years 2010 to 2012. The 2010 to 2012 are SUPER RELIABLE.... BUT YOU HAVE TO BABY THE CLUTCH! They don't last long off road. On road they are good for 100,000 miles. Then BMW was pushed to meet EPA B.S. wants.... then along came Mr. LC. It is fraught with issues. Even the the 1250's have problems with soft cams. There is no excuse for this! I wish y'all the best. Happy trails and may the road rise to meet you, may the sun always shine upon you....and may the GOOD LORD hold you in the palm of HIS hand.

@BrianBraaten 2 жыл бұрын

Harley Dealerships try to make people think that too. But it’s not true.It’s a lot easier though i know how too but I drink my friends beer while he does mine in his shop.Cheap enough that I think I’m coming out ahead

@bigbossman3806 2 жыл бұрын

Love traveling with you guys through your videos. That's an awesome bike but the cost of oil changes are insane, just seems like highway robbery.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

cost of everything is high

@petermacgregor9805 2 жыл бұрын

I bought my GSA out of warranty and do all the oil changes, etc myself. It is extremely easy and inexpensive to diy. Also, if you get a flat tire, removing the tire yourself and then taking it to the dealer will save $$.

@brianhoffies4846 2 жыл бұрын

Always a good thing when you aren't disappointed with a purchase. Stay safe.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@peterblacklin9174 2 жыл бұрын

It lives up to "Bring More Wallet". Very nice bike but very high cost of ownership if you have a shop do the maintenance. Thanks for a realistic review.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

No doubt!

@sixsigmax 2 жыл бұрын

My KTM, “Keep Throwing Money”, isn’t any better from a total cost of ownership perspective. Food is a necessity…high-end adventure motorcycles, not so. They are objects of sheer desire. The joy of riding justifies the costs for most riders. Safe and memorable adventures to all.

@lindac7146 2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your one year review.

@bobreynolds9310 Жыл бұрын

6ft tall? Wow. Anyway, broke down and bought a gs yesterday. Triple black standard model. Of course I wouldn't have been able to without my wonderful wife of 44 years being on board with it. Y'all have a great channel. I'll keep watching while I try and figure out some of the gadgets on this new bike. Be safe.

@TwoWheelsBigLife Жыл бұрын

Awesome Congratulations!! There are lots of things to learn on those bikes. great features.

@Moondog9330 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to get a BMW bike myself, but this answered a lot of my questions about overall cost to operate and own. Great video.

@emfl4437 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, I appreciate the honest review. The GS or the RT are on my moto-dream list. Enjoy 🏍️

@jymebale5545 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Chris, that was a lot of money to spend so soon. I bought a 09 1200rt and was hoping I'd would not have to get my hands dirty, I sure did, but, I have been working on cars and bikes since the early 70's, my Dad showed me everything, he said, you want it to work I will show you how and you do it, I did and still do. I've had my rt four years now, love it but would sure like a new one but don't think that'll ever happen. I get so many compliments on my rt it's funny and I love it, ride safe love, nice lookin bike.

@neillunderhill6907 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing bikes and worth every penny. Nice summary!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@unclegoonschannel 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great review. Glad to see you really enjoy riding this bike and being positive about it. Ride on! 🤘🏽🤘🏽

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Thanks.

@hrmacdonald4471 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ownership review of your 1250GS, it was quite interesting... maybe you can do a Part 2 and have Richard add a few comments. Thanks again for all the great content in your video's ... stay safe!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks HR

@cray1185 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, thank you. I will always be an admirer of the BMW adventure bikes [ F700/750GS - F800/850GS -and especially the R1200/1250GS bikes ]. When one passes me it always turns my head. But due to the high cost of purchase and ownership, and concerning manufacture changes to BMWs over the years,…I will just have to keep enjoying my Suzuki V-Strom. Your BMW is a beautiful bike, and I will always dream of owning one. Sometimes it is good to just keep the dream.

@asmith8092 2 жыл бұрын

Great honest review!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@erikclausen4780 2 жыл бұрын

Great review of the 1250 GS Thank you .

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@markmcintosh7095 2 жыл бұрын

I would have guessed that you were 50. Motorcycles must keep you young. Fun channel.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Yep i married an older women

@pushin68Hz 2 жыл бұрын

Great review!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Desmond

@stevena3446 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review, thanks. I can’t believe the number of comments telling you to do the maintenance yourselves! Life is short. Continue letting someone else maintain your bikes! It’s only money. Live life!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@MrSkurtenb 2 жыл бұрын

Great review,with some very honest observations! Two things that were surprising to me: the cost of maintenance, and the fuel mileage. My wife rides a 2020 HD street glide special 114 that weighs about 300 lbs heavier than the beemer, and also averages between 46 and 50 mpg. I thought for sure the bmw would be better on gas being a much lighter bike and a smaller engine. Great review of the bike and love your channel

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Yes we agree this gets about the same as our Ms Alice when the GS is at 70mph it runs at 4k rpm under 60mph get about 50mpg

@mikeadams2351 2 жыл бұрын

I was out riding my 2012 BMW R1200R Classic to Idaho when this video came out and I missed it. I too had to replace the shocks after I got the bike and then the dreaded rear main oil seal went. none of that was cheap. none the less the ride out to Idaho and back was glorious and she got to show her tail to a bunch of "faster" bikes more than once. 5"9" 160 and 73...

@rodneybarcus2233 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review Chris. I saw that river road run and I felt bad for you. Definitely a smaller and lighter bike needed on that road.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

yes we learned

@jaimeriveras 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. I have a 2019 and agree with your conclusions. I suggest putting the hill brake control in manual. I like the bike offroad - I have knobby tires on - but the weight is indeed a stress factor (I’m 69 and 5’7). In a couple of years I will sell it and get a lighter model.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thats funny

@ericodinski7233 2 жыл бұрын

I follow you guys and enjoy your posts. Regarding your GS, when I heard about your $4-700.00 oil changes I appreciate my ‘83 R80 even more. Heading west this July, maybe see you on the road.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

cheers

@MrGus4440 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. These bikes are pretty easy to maintain yourself. If you do your own routine maintenance you will save a fortune. You have a good start with the GS911. Even if you just use it to set the service reminder it will pay for it’s self. I am on my fourth GS starting with a ‘92 airhead. I have 60,000 miles on my ‘15 GSA now. I pay the Dealer to flush the brakes but I check my valves and service everything else myself. I’m going to try to go to the Georgia Mountain Rally. Maybe I will see you there. I haven’t been since they moved it to the Fairgrounds.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

when out of warranty i plan on all maintenance myself

@atfromaz 2 жыл бұрын

Hi guys. Thanks for the one year review. Doh! Plus the cost of a battery cover. 🤣

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

My bad

@ler3968 2 жыл бұрын

I liked your great quick review of your bike. My (+) and (-'s) are similar to yours for my 2005 RT street cruiser the negatives are: seat height for those under 5'11" like me, wet bike weight-I can't lift it myself anymore, and costs for recommended routine maintenance or replacement parts. Positives: long-distance road comfort is very good, heated handgrips, overall reliability is excellent now over 75k miles, strong power torque range. I too will look for an under 500 lbs bike and a lower sticker price for my next new bike.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

yes agreed

@othoapproto9603 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a wonderfull video, I love my GSA, but was surprised on the body parts, Yea that side cover is hard to fit.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@robertjacobson1608 2 жыл бұрын

Looking for new video of your new bike. I'm excited to see what you are getting.

@kiwideann5632 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the very informative video. Did you ever find out the cause of the no start issue?

@tomfillmore9710 2 жыл бұрын

good review didn't realize the bike was that heavy you do very well on it for being a heavy bike oil changes are very expensive for sure just like everything else these days sorry about your cover hope you find it take care ride safe

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@PatsAdventuresTravels 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. If I may say. Now that you have the GS911 do your own oil changes for about 100 buck yourself. Do all your 12K service and then let the dealer do the valve check. That's what I have been doing and have already recouped the cost of the GS911.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@dperique 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, nice review. I'm considering a 2022 GS adventure (low suspension) and was wondering about how it is offroad given it seems like a big/heavy bike. I have a 2020 Vstrom and it seems thinner and lighter and fun. Your review helped. I love the idea of it being really good on pavement but I'd like to be able to travel offroad as well (nothing narly as I'm very new to this ADV thing). I still struggle with the idea of dropping a 25K bike when I want to travel unpaved roads occasionally. I haven't dropped a bike in a decade but I've never wanted to ride off road until last year so just planning ahead. Thanks again.

@johnasbury9915 Жыл бұрын

I got my (new to me) 2018 GSA about a month ago and finally got to take her on some fire roads today. She did pretty well, big old girl but the Enduro setting smoothed a lot of stuff out. It’s nice to be able to romp the rear and the ABS on the front is really nice. I took my 2010 GS on some single track, dropped it a few times but made it back. I’m not good enough to single track these beasts but they will handle fire roads like nothing. Opens up options when you’re out exploring

@nancyfithian4984 2 жыл бұрын

Great review of the BMW and we found out you are 6 feet tall! No wonder you don't have a problem with tall bikes! 😄I'm 5'7" (I used to be a little over 5'8"!) and have about 31" to the ground ("inseam"). The seat on my Super Tenere is set at the low position (about 33") and with the narrow seat front and sag, I can nearly flat-foot it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

yes she is tall

@colingoldthorpe5918 2 жыл бұрын

Love the comments about the cost of an oil change against a Honda!!! First of all the Honda Africa Twin is way taller and not even in the same league as the GS. I’m a Triumph guy and even I admit that Triumph explorers have nothing on the GS. Thanks for the review Kris !!!!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@petermacgregor9805 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid- what kind of windshield did you install? I couldn’t quite hear what you said? Was it a Tourtech? The only thing I don’t like with the GSA even though the windshield is supposedly bigger than the one on the GS is the wind buffeting at higher speeds with the stock shield!

@MotoXplor 2 жыл бұрын

With a truck and trailer now, you can carry an oil change container, do your own oil changes, and dump it at an auto parts store when you're in town. You'll save a hell of a lot of money. If you have a warranty, just buy original parts and save the receipts. I had a GSA but hated the $$$ maintenance. I'm happy with fuel sipping Honda now. Safe travels!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@Sledge-fu5zr 2 жыл бұрын

Cost of ownership sounds right. Nothing cheap about motorcycling.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@hariharanramasubramani1834 Жыл бұрын

Great review. Do you regret not buying gsa? If no, why? Is the 5.2 gallon is enough for long travel or do you have to stop frequently?

@giftoftheroad7651 2 жыл бұрын

I agree in the weight. I'm 5'11" / 180lbs. I rode a F700GS and even that felt too big & heavy. I currently have the G310GS and I love it, but I'm just starting. Some day I may want a larger bike. My dream would be for @BMW to add a 2nd cylinder to the G310GS and make as F620GS (parallel twin) but keep the rest of the bike the same. That would be the sweet spot for me.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. had not thought of that configuration that woukld be about perfect 👍

@davidherringgo 2 жыл бұрын

My choice was a F 750 GS 21 because of weight , and could not be happier . All the extras that come with a BMW is worth the $$ ' s to me. An AMAZING 🏍 .

@vanmears7004 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@ADriftingLife 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you already sold the other GS after that review! 😆 Looking forward to seeing what your next bike will be.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

That's the plan!

@Titan500J 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a 2005 GS 3 years ago with 1700 miles on it. It’s not as technically advanced but it’s lighter and I can do all of the servicing myself except for tires of course. Because it’s a do everything bike it doesn’t excel at any one thing however I love it. Just my opinion. Love your video’s.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@harleyman2233 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, I'm picking up my new to me 2019 1250 GS exclusive in 2 weeks. Will be riding from LA back to FL. Would love to know what highways pegs you put on your lower engine guards. Thanks

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

They are tourtech pegs

@edp3421 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome bike ,

@rsos8541 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@mikedignum1868 2 жыл бұрын

I have the 2019 version of this bike with alloy wheels and it was my first GS. The only thing that was annoying me was the height (i did not get the lower suspension version) as Im 5.7" with a 29" inside leg. But I found ways around that by playing with the suspension settings through the TFT screen (love TFT) and changing out the rubber seat bungs for ones that lower the seat by an extra 5mm, and hey presto I can now get 3/4 of my foot on the ground instead of being on tiptoe. I love this bike and I believe it's the swiss army knife of bikes. So far I've ridden it to Norway (arctic circle tour) and most of Europe (off to Italy in July). And yes, you can go broke buying extras for your bike. plus very few people (UK) take the 1250GS off-road, it's just too expensive and heavy to do that, some green laneing is ok.

@mikeadams2351 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 29.5" inseam and I am impressed...

@bettyjorodgers8552 2 жыл бұрын

Good looking motor. Blessings

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Betty Jo

@gl2856 2 жыл бұрын

You know where to find a spare cover Chris. Just make sure he’s asleep when you swap it out. Lol , I agree with you regarding the weight , other than that I can’t fault mine , 👍

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣👍

@Lt_Tragg 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Rich! I call those “engine guards” bone breakers. Guess what they do to your leg bones when they make contact driven by 550 lbs of bike behind it? Chris: Awesome review! I enjoy your don’t sweat the small (or large) stuff consciousness with a touch of humor. There’s no perfect bike but whew!……..those beemers have particularly ravenous way of chewing through budgets. Hope you soon find a lighter mount that will be friendlier to both wallet and body.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

I've banged my shin on it and WOW

@flyermarkbig465 2 жыл бұрын

I follow the same process while my bikes are under warranty and then do all maintenance myself after. The boxer maintenance is very easy overall. Even the valve adjustments. That said I went with a F850GSA instead. I enjoyed it more than the 1250 based on my test rides. I do wish I had shaft drive versus chain maintenance though. ADD.....the 600 mile maintenance is more than just an oil change at a competent dealer. Just fyi.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

AWESOME. you get it. That's the reason.

@perfectmotoadventurespaulf1968 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@screddot7074 2 жыл бұрын

You meet the nicest people on a Honda. Seems like right where you ought to be Chris.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

but we have a BMW not a Honda

@ghostpepperrides4805 2 жыл бұрын

$230.00 a month to maintain your BMW. X2. I’m sure Chris your next bike will be lower weight. You would be even happier and drops less. Now Rich I see him keeping his bike a bit longer. Happy for you both. Love the new travel setup. Smart move.

@fred65condra 2 жыл бұрын

Great job on that review. Impressive. I know harley riders that can't quote cheaper. And yeah some will say why don't you change your own oil and do your own mechanicing .... great review. Enjoyed it

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fred

@parkview113 2 жыл бұрын

continued... I felt looking at those off road desert expeditions that they put you both perhaps out of your comfort zones - (realise you have grown up with bikes, but a 500lb. big adventure bike is a beast and better to stay on tarmac with... there are so many smaller and easier to handle machines for off-road tumbles... I am almost 69 and I find even getting the bike pushed reverse ways out of a gage with a fractional gradient against me a real trial sometimes - its OK when you are on the move with the low centre of balance - you could be on a push-bike !! Forgive me but I'd go straight for an 850 BM or KTM - perfect and without quite so much electronics... Respect and admire your honestly... just one thing you mentioned your dislike of the mirrors on the 1250 - they are pretty much a standard design throughout the BM Adventure range - I immediately felt, (pardon me), that this was hardly an excuse to ditch the bike - it surprised me - again - forgive me , Chris !! Bill Kerr in the south of England right opposite the French coast.

@_Corsa Жыл бұрын

One thing with the GS you may already know that is NOT included in the service manual. Every 12K service I pull the paralever bolt and drop the rear of the final drive. Check for water ingress and rust. Clean, lube splines with Liqui Moly M02, coat the boot with white lithium grease, reassemble using loctite 243 on the paralever bolt. Of course also change the FD fluid as well. I've seen some nasty neglected drive shafts, especially if you do a lot of water crossings or live in high humidity.

@randyhickman604 2 жыл бұрын

I do all my own maintenance on my Goldwing , last oil change and filter using Honda synthetic blend oil was $70, but then again my wing is a 2001 with 116,000 miles on it so way past warranty!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

YES Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@Sixbears 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. As I suspected, great road bike but too heavy to really handle serious dirt. Also not too big on the price of oil changes. Guess I like doing my own changes on my Honda for less than $20.

@davidsilvius756 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of oil are you using to get off so cheap at $20?

@Sixbears 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidsilvius756 most motorcycles run just fine on oil formulated for diesel engines. Really.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough!

@bamills6771 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Tenere 700. It is a nice middle weight bike. Almost as good as the GS on Highways - but way easier on Dirt. I have pretty much stopped riding my GSA on dirt and only use the T7

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

None available we looked for one

@jlrutube1312 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I'm a poor man with an old VTX 1300. I do my oil changes myself and it costs me about 35 dollars. I would almost have to go to the bank and get a loan just to change my oil if I had your motorcycle! I am glad you have it though and I am glad you are enjoying it. Have a great day and God bless you.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

I'm having the dealerships do the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@lloydyoung8628 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update , really enjoy your videos, but the cost of fluid changes ? Wow ! What would that front suspension repair have cost if the bike wasn't under warranty?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@armadilllo 2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoWheelsBigLife they can't if you document your own service. law

@letitrest4662 2 жыл бұрын

Expensive upkeep is why I ride a Yamaha. I do my own oil changes, and even use Amsoil. With the Yamaha filter, about $85.00

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@roegiersmusic 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review! Just wondering how the Honda Africa Twin and Harley Davidson Pan America would be comparable? I really enjoy your channel and all of your videos and adventures 🤘🏻😎🇺🇸

@edholtgraver7771 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 Africa Twin Adventure and a 2020 R1250GS Adventure. One day I greatly prefer the AT and the next day I greatly prefer the GS. Generally for long paved road rides I take the GS for comfort and for short or dirt road rides it is the AT. Both are excellent bikes.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@peterhobbs7609 2 жыл бұрын

Great bike there, albeit a bit pricey for servicing, but I guess that’s part of BMW ownership

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately

@thereplacementfordisplacement Жыл бұрын

Your costs would be worst case for someone with the same issues since you don't service it yourself but according to my calculations on a $/mi basis for the cost of ownership you are on par with what it costs to ride it in fuel at $4.50/gal best case price as of right now in my area. About 10 cents/mi. Every review on costs of ownership should be in $/mi to make it somewhat translatable. More expensive and newer bikes cost more to register and insure as well. Thanks for the video, very jealous, wish I could put in 24kmi on a bike in a year, I've never been able to do that but I have never tried either, someday...

@cathyn1033 2 жыл бұрын

No surprise at the cost of maintaining a BMW. Bob has had one for the last 20 years. He does his own oil changes and other maintenance. He has had an 2002 RT, 2004 R115OR, and 2014 R1200GS. $$$$. Not to mention the premium fuel. Thanks for the review Chris. And sorry about your cover.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@fabiopunk1661 2 жыл бұрын

The type of tire determines how well the bike behaves off road. Big block tires like yours clearly improve this but are not ideal for long distance riding on paved roads. I am sure you and all know that. Say it another way, my GS doesn’t behave as well as yours off road as yours probably because of the michelin anakee I have, that are great on highway turns. As to warranty, its a personal choice to bend your back to dealers and pay big bucks for works you could easily do at a fraction of cost, to feel better with the coverage this provides. When I bought mine new, I took it in only the first time at 1000 km, then I did everything by myself. Never had a problem Greetings from southern spain where I am currently touring with the GS and my wife, coming from Italy

@rjsalameh 2 жыл бұрын

Veery good review! Just curious, what other bike would get that could be significantly lighter that could do all the things that this bike does? I have a 2016 GS and have been asking myself that question for some time.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

The 1250 actually feels lighter when getting off of the kickstand due to the lower center of gravity

@rjsalameh 2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoWheelsBigLife Agreed, but you mentioned looking at something more agile and smaller for off-road, what would that be? Would you get it in addition to the GS?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

No We would replace this bike

@norriemasson4080 2 жыл бұрын

Chris I’m sure you’ve thought about it but if not seriously consider taking out a extended warranty on your bike when the time comes (not cheap in the UK it probably comes in around £700 not Euros) Got to say I love that bike of yours, I know Richard’s bike is similar but it’s the GSAdventure model. Stay safe out there

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@parkview113 Жыл бұрын

Dear Chris. Back with your channel after a break ... I am a retired 69 male. I had a GS 1200 on a 2017 plate and had no trouble getting it on the centre stand - currently have a GS 1250 on a 2019 plate and I just can't centre stand it - so frustrating. When you had the 1250 was Richard able to get it onto the centrestand ? (Got a big catchup now with your vids I missed - been obcessed with the new tiny electric Citroen Ami and have one now so reverting back to bikes again ... Bill Kerr in England - an original early subscriber to your channel

@TwoWheelsBigLife Жыл бұрын

welcome back William. I remember your earlier comments, and Yes Rich could get that and his 1250 GSA on the center stand. Thanks Again for watching

@parkview113 Жыл бұрын

@@TwoWheelsBigLife thanks for getting back to me .... I must revise my technique.... perhaps being 69 I am just getting muscle wastage ! Very possible !! Keep dropping the bike - did so recently while wife was pillion, while stationery at a juction... must have put the wrong foot down, and as you know, when it stats to go over... nothing you can do about it - wife(who has early dementia) ended up on road - not good ... perhaps time for a scooter or a 250... I think I dropped the bike three times while on a group tour of the Scottish Highlands in April. Love your vids and as I say will get back into them having been "Citroen Ami " (tiny electric quadricycle) orientated for the last months watching every available You Tube on the subject. As people say, centrestanding is "all in the push down with the leg and very little arm action - must refine technique - thanks for your support and getting back to me ... Bill in the UK (S. Coast opp France)

@parkview113 Жыл бұрын

Chris , - I got it up the stand - first time of trying since you e mailed back and I had "refreshed" technique with a couple of How To vids... delighted - all weight through the leg; double checked it was on both"feet"; right hand on a cross frame, lower than I had before as was holding luggage /grip rack; rocked the bike a couple of times and "presto" !!! So pleased ... will nevertheless stick with the exercise stretch bands as am sure over time as you get older you "loose it" ... also have the skateboard ready to go to get the old balance sorted out - delighted. Must do it a few more times to consolidate as the experts advise.

@TheJAMTUB 2 жыл бұрын

What made you get a 1250 cc bike? If I may ask. I know It's a great bike but does it make sense to choose a big heavy bike when there's a good choice of 700 to 900 cc bikes on the market which are lighter and easier to live with. I had a Yamaha Super Tenere for 4 years. It's a great , reliable and very comfortable bike. I loved it. But it's a beast and weighs 265 Kgs (slightly more than a GS Adventure). I was touring in Italy with my wife on our bikes (she has a Honda 500X), and at one point I said to her.. " When we get home I'm selling this and getting a lighter bike". That was my main criteria for a new contender (apart from the obvious). I just decided with practicality as my main issue (as sometimes I envied my wife's very light bike). So I opted for an F850GS. Not the adventure as I don't need 23 litres of fuel. It's a bike I like , it's relatively much lighter, great fuel economy and handles like a dream. Since I ride without a pillion I don't need the huge amounts of torque either. The more I ride it the more I love it. It'll do around 350 Kms on a tank full. Perfect as where we ride in Europe there are petrol stations everywhere. Stopping to stretch my legs and refuel is a welcome stop so I have the right bike for me. Each to his/her own I s. But sometimes (and I've seen this happen a lot in my 30 years of riding) people don't buy the bike that truly fits them. They sometimes try too hard to fit the bike they like. Point in case, a friend bought his partner a GS1250. She's a bit vertically challenged. So he got her a factory low model, then changed the link and also got her the low seat. Now the GS looks like a chopper... And she still drops it a lot. Just saying.

@bikealways 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't Richard have done some of the oil changes? $2,700 is pretty pricey for a year. However you do put a lot of miles in

@cuffeteaghlach5617 2 жыл бұрын

I think Rich is a great guy, but at times, he's a real airhead.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

this bike is under warranty. I worked for several manufactures and i just want to ensure the major parts are covered if there is a failure.

@rods907 2 жыл бұрын

For that much for an oil change I would do it myself! That is insane 😱

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@keithqueen3554 2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe how long I've been subscribed seems like you just had the old beener break.

@keithqueen3554 2 жыл бұрын

BMW bring more wallet😆

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here

@Vstromxt Жыл бұрын

As you can tell by my username. You cant go wrong with a vstrom. 650 or 1050. Rock solid reliable. Much cheaper maintaince costs. I do my own oil changes and tune ups. Oil changes are pretty simple. 4 screws to take the skid plate off, drain plug and filter, takes 10-15 minutes. The new 800 could be good for you. Or the Honda Trans Alp 750.

@dougstoutenborough6461 2 жыл бұрын

I hate to be negative but I use to own & ride Beemers. But the service cost priced me out. The #1 service that is just crazy is the 600mi most dealerships are $400 & up. With bikes like the African Twin from Honda it’s Honda now.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

i can understand

@bigjoe4020 2 жыл бұрын

Weight ! - Seems to be the #1 issue for most people, big or small especially if you take it to the dirt. Wouldn't that be great if they made a bike 1/2 the weight but as good as the big GS is.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Yes That would be awesome

@edgsa393 2 жыл бұрын

The 1250 GS and GSA, for me are the best all around motorcycles you could own. Like Chris said, it a dream to ride and it just feels like it's so well balanced. It's very user friendly and very forgiving when you make a mistake. I have the 1250 GSA and for me it's the best bike I've ever had!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@plowboy006 2 жыл бұрын

Oh one other question. On your previous bike you had an issue with the rear wheel and BMW said it would require a complete swing arm replacement, at what milage did that occur? And has either of you current bikes shown any signs of similar wear?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Great question. The GT had some other underlying issues besides just the rear drive. That went out at 90k and no for the current bikes. That I am watching closely to prevent that from happening. Thanks

@TheEasyrider1200 2 жыл бұрын

I do my own oil changes and dif changes. It's not that hard. Take it to the dealer for the valve checks and sync. My typical oil change comes to $28 for the oil, and another $20 or so for the filters.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@showmytime9177 2 жыл бұрын

28$ for the oil? are you using cooking oil?

@TheEasyrider1200 2 жыл бұрын

@@showmytime9177 5 quart jug of Mobil1 at Wally World. Been using it in my Harleys and Beemer for years.

@showmytime9177 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheEasyrider1200 in my country (RO) because we are way richer than any other contry in the world, average price for 1 quart of MC oil is 50$ while the minimum is 10$ for a noname mineral oil which won't last 1000 miles. I do my own oil changes, every 4000km, and it working like day one.

@12HourTravels 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was looking for on this bike. I’m like Rich that ride an Ultra Limited with the desire to fire dirt road travels. If you didn’t buy the GS, what would you consider? Very inspired on your adventures.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

something lighter for bad dirt roads, but we dont plan on doing anymore like that.

@karisumner4709 Жыл бұрын

Was wondering if you had any issues with stand over and that question has been answered😃 6 foot tall, so different question is that both feet flat on the ground or one foot flat on the ground at stops. I’m only 5’6 and this is a minor concern as I look at different ADVs.

@johnbarron618 2 жыл бұрын

Honda cb 500 x the answer to all your needs . Light very economical service is way cheaper and purchase price very good. 49 hp tho and it's enough

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

They are nice. found one that so far is perfect for Chris. Stay tuned

@dougaugustine933 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris - What touring windshield brand/model did you add? I thought maybe it was a BMW part but can't find it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

It’s is the BMW touring windscreen it’s the same shape but wider and taller. We got it from GO AZ in Scottsdale AZ

@dougaugustine933 2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoWheelsBigLife Thanks Chris!! Is Rich still using the stock GSA windscreen on this bike and is he generally happy with it?

@mrktm65sx 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! On the subject of expensive maintenance, I'm not convinced the dealers are soaking us. I think the oil changes also include shaft drive oil change and link greasing. I just checked my 600 mile maintenance receipt and the $314 service included oil change, shaft drive service, and an hour of labor. And the oil change requires 4 quarts (almost $18/qt) and a $20 filter. Could I do that work myself? Yes, but I've seen a video of the shaft drive service and that looks like a pain. If you can do this stuff yourself without pulling your hair out and cursing a blue streak, then great! Like Clint Eastwood says, "A man's gotta know his limitations", so I'll just write a check for this and let someone else deal with it.

@petermacgregor9805 2 жыл бұрын

Changing the engine and final drive oil is extremely easy. I have been riding bikes for over 50 years and this is the easiest one I have had to work on. The oil filter is readily accessible and nothing has to be removed to get to it. The rear drive oil can be easily changed by removing the drain plug screw. You then loosen the other screw and add the premeasured oil (180ml) with a syringe. It couldn’t be any easier! Make sure you get the spec oil listed in your owners manual. Make sure you use the specified motorcycle oil and not car oil!

@mrktm65sx 2 жыл бұрын

@@petermacgregor9805 that sounds straightforward, but what about applying grease to the ends of the drive shaft? I watched a YT vid on that and it looked tricky.

@petermacgregor9805 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrktm65sx I have done that and it is relatively straight forward. The dealer does not grease the spline when they change the rear drive fluids unless you request it. You usually do not have to do it unless you take the bike off road in water or drive a lot in the rain.

@glennanderson3725 2 жыл бұрын

Don't dispair about the BMW. You can save lots of expense if you learn to do your own maintenance. Oil and final drive changes are easy. Stock up on filters and oil. Buy a torque wrench and an oil filter wrench. I also carry the BMW shop manual on CD. I recall Rich is using a Mac. Can you get the GS911 to work on it? I carry a PC just for the GS911 and the repair CD. I also do my own tire changes. Yes, I have a No-Mar tire changer at home. I only go to the shop for the bike inspection because it is now 10 years old.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@petermacgregor9805 2 жыл бұрын

If you buy a K & N oil filter, you do not even need an oil filter wrench! It comes with a wrench off nut for easy removal. IMHO, K&N products are great. Try the air filter. It is reusable and just has to be cleaned and lasts a lifetime! Therefore better for the environment and a great ROI!

@johnvaleriewelbers2995 2 жыл бұрын

Have a Harley ultra thinking of getting a gs but so used to comfort of Harley 🤔😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

I agree I miss The RG. she'll be back soon

@tt55k 2 жыл бұрын

So learning how to do your own oil changes will save a lot of money .

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Very true! I do know i just want no issues with warranty if an engine fails

@juans3728 2 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer Japanese bikes, cost less , will do anything expensive bikes do, handsome, user maintenance friendly and they will last longer and lets not forget Honda has been manufacturing in the United States since 1959 in California then in Marysville Ohio the first motorcycle was built CR250R Elsinore and the last motorcycle built was the famous Goldwing GL1800 June 24, 2009. Chris this is a great video and when you tell people " It's not what you ride but it's your ride " i feel you are referring to me and i love it, thanks , Peace.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

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@SupRBeeADV 2 жыл бұрын

Gee wizz cant have nothing nice when Richard rides your bike LOL.....wow i am shocked on the cost of an oil change as well..

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. I would do myself if not under warranty. 🤦‍♂️😳

@richardvalitalo3670 2 жыл бұрын

I had a flat on my Honda, ok I called CAA. Had that covered, towed to the dealer, ok. After a week to get the tube & 1 hr. labour cost me $150 ! Now I stock my own spare tubes & not gonna be a whole week not riding !

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Bummer

@samuroadventure1227 2 жыл бұрын

Oil change? yeah, $400 for an oil change, that's why I do it myself on my 2020 GSA and it cost me about $100. The problem is the labor the dealer charges almost $300 to do it. I just did the brake fluid flush and rear brake pad change today 😁

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@samuroadventure1227 2 жыл бұрын

Understand that.

@mikecole658 2 жыл бұрын

1st high guys!😊

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

awesome mike. 👍😎

@Triumph-iv8hi 2 жыл бұрын

Nice bikes but seem a bit overkill now you are not towing or moving all your kit with them , plus heavy off road,especially when dropped and need picking up a few times. Keep up the good work.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough! we are listening

@Triumph-iv8hi 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe something like a Honda CB500 x with the appropriate tires might work for you. Lighter better gas mileage and still quick enough for your needs , the only down side is the chain drive to maintain.

@joanelsullivan7866 2 жыл бұрын

You should check out The Smoaks channel on you tube . Shawn is a certified BMW technician. He can show and tell you everything you'll ever need to know about any BMW and how to repair it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@davidgartner2422 Жыл бұрын

Shawn is a certified BMW mechanic who owns like 5 Harley's and a Suzuki.Kinda makes one wonder.

@leftfield123 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love a GS but wondered why you both need such heavy bikes considering that neither are your primary means of transportation. Before the truck and trailer they made sense, now are they really needed? Lots of mid sized bikes that are cheaper, lighter, less maintenance, while still comfortable for the shorter rides you're now doing.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 жыл бұрын

This is what we thought we wanted.