Bravo!

He was a true once in a lifetime amazing freak of nature

Stu Stewart beat them in fantastic style. So happens they were the same horses he had been beating over and over again. Straight 3yos. It is kind of like the New England patriots playing Cleveland Browns every time they play. A great horse absolutely. The greatest? Not in my opinion. How about Kelso? Horse of the year 5 years in a row. That is more impressive than beating the same ole horses you beat numerous times before, even if it were by 31 lengths.

No horse that has ever lived would have beaten Arkle in the 1965 Gold Cup at Sandown. He smashed the course record by 17 seconds....a record that still stands 54 years on....a record that will Never be broken; because the horse that beats the time......will not be carrying within half a stone of what Arkle carried.

I think Man o' War had a chance to break the record on better tracks. 🐴🤣

Absolute freak of nature. Won races on the same day numerous times. Won from 5f to 3m also.

Not only that, was the sire of sires.

Where's Secretariat's get?

Only because he was an American. Nothing else counts.

Spectacular Bid ran fastest 1 1/4 race in history. Still holds world record of 157 4/5. Faster than Secretariat.

@@nickgrant8537 im referring to Triple Crown races, he still holds the record in all of them

Agreed. And where was Pharlap and some of the other international horses??

I guess it's a persons personal list. Hey, even the official list isn't the beginning and the end. We all have our favorite GREATEST horses & 10 or 20 entries just isn't enough for most of our choices.

Phar Lap was #5 on the list

Lists like this are totally subjective. So is your claim that the list is flawed because it excludes Slew. Every horse has their pluses and minuses. Slew's negatives include the fact that he was a fragile horse whose resume was thin. He only won 14 races running at age 2, 3, and 4. Citation won 19 races as 3 year old alone. In his only race after the Triple Crown, Slew got crushed by J.O. Tobin and then they rested him for the remainder of the season. Running a rigorous schedule, which would have him run continuously for many months after the TC, was too much for Slew. He couldn't take it. However that was certainly not the case for horses like Round Table, Citation, Buckpasser, or Damascus who ran races constantly and relentlessly. Slew only won two Grade 1 races after his triple crown campaign and those occurred at the age 4. In an era where Forego was winning races carrying huge weight, Slew's connections avoided running him in races where he might be assigned big weight as if it was the plague. The only time he carried over 130 pounds was in the Grade 3 Stuyvesant where he raced against a bunch of nobodies. Slew's victory in the Marlboro Cup in the time of 1:45.8 was certainly a fine performance, but he only carried 128 pounds. Two years earlier on the same track, Forego also won in the time of 1:45.8, but he was carrying 135 pounds. Sure Slew's 2:00 for 1 1/4 miles on a fast track, carrying 126 pounds, was a good performance. However, Forego ran the same time, two years earlier, on the same track, but he was carrying 137 pounds in the slop. When you compare Slew's achievements to those of other horses, there is nothing that conclusively shows that he belongs on a top 10 list or that horses like Citation, Forego, Native Dancer, Count Fleet, Damascus, Buckpasser, Spectacular Bid, Bold Ruler, Swaps etc. etc. do not.

Steph Miller Whoops 😨

Agreed. He shldve bn in the top 3 somewhere

no

I rank him in the top 3 but he was addicted to pain medicine. Not mixing the pain concoction correctly killed him.

4 wins in group races over 8 days in November 1930 from 8 furlongs to the two mile Melbourne Cup. Unheard of. Like to see the horses above him in this list do that. Wouldn't be able to.

@@marknorris1381 true

Same, seeing Sham honored doesn’t happen enough. He and Red carried on that mighty Princequillo blood well.

Sham is the 2nd greatest hé would hold the records and the triple crown if secretariat didn’t exist, no one horse in history would be as close to secretariat as sham was, not citation, not man o war, not any modern day triple crown winner

@@Yoyoiooui He was a great horse, but sadly for him and his owners and handlers, Secretariat did live and blew all the competitors away at the Belmont. I didn't track Sham's foals, did you and are there any of them alive today? I love the sport of racing and the horse are just regal. I think my loyalty and love for Secretariat is so strong because I watched him race with my dad who was dying. He lived long enough to see the Belmont; but that would be one of the last things were I got to be mostly alone and screaming at the top of our lungs when Secretariat was coming down the track just flying (my 6 brothers never watched racing) with my dad before his multiple times going into the hospital. He would later die from lymphoma cancer. What is the reason you love/loved Sham?

Forego...when he beat Honest Pleasure in the Marlborough...omg, one of the greatest moments in thoroughbred racing.

There are 3 factors that make Forego's accomplishments extra special: 1- he had 3 bad legs for a good portion of his career which required constant hosing to reduce inflammation; 2 - he often carried very high weights as much as 137 lbs.; and 3 - he usually preferred running on the far outside which meant he had to cover more distance than horses running next to the rail. He won most of his races on a combination of raw power and sheer determination. My dream matchup would be a match race between Forego and Secretariat at Belmont as 4 year olds with Forego having 4 good legs and no weight handicap. That would have been something to see.

@@waynespaeth9061 Secretariat beat Forego in the 1973 Kentcky Derby

@@waynespaeth9061 Forego raced Secretariat in the Kentucky Derby in '73 and was a well beaten fourth.

Forego with over 126lbs can beat almost any horse in a 1 1/2 to 2 12 mile race.

Thankyou..most folks have not heard of Round Table...Please people checkout his record ..Big Red never raced as far, so often , carried as much weight, ran on all types or surfaces...at the time all time money leader...and great Sire to boot and with" the Shoe" on borard.. com'on man

RT was the one that got me to fall in love with horseracing in 1959 watching him run his last race! He carried 130 + 25 times with a speed record 11 times with that weight up and only Armed is second to RT in that category with 5 records with 130 and up! thanks for your comment! I also believe RT should be in top 10

Sham shouldn't be in there. Kelso should be higher.

Actually it was a ruptured suspensory ligament, which also is not a "pulled tendon".... the majority of horses that do that same injury nowadays never fully recover

No Secretariat has put up a record that has still no beaten for 40 years maybe even more. He won by 31 lengths 31 that is just crazy

That's the keyyy♥️😁✌

She was so beautiful, elegant really. Damn pigeon! There are so many in NY, it is insane. I would have freaked too if one landed on my nose! Unfortunately, she broke her leg, God, I am crying. She tried to run after the surgery. It was her last memory before they anesthetized her. After that she did more damage and sadly she was euthanized. RIP Beautiful Girl.

❤️❤️ Poor Ruffian--makes one want to cry each time her name comes up

was Ruffian almost 3 years old when she died or 2 years old?

Earnie Todd She was 3 and has no business on a top 10 list.

I was there that day. I cried leaving the track.

Angi Bunn a great Aussie horse😉

I thought the exact same thing he took on and beat the greatest American Horses of his day

Kiwis sold to Australia who named him and fixed him up after the poor condition he arrived in,but im happy with him being an anzac

@@missyb9438 Angi's comment is correct...mother was a NZer too.....BUT he never raced or registered to race in NZ so the recognition and fame all came from Australian racing. Given the sire was English would mean the Pommies have as much claim.

I was wondering where was Citation also.

Not a bad list good ones there: #1 Correct is Ruffian (I love the Fillies & she was the best, she stacked up against Secretariat, NOT better but very close; only other one u did correctly was Man O'War high on list but I could talk about him for hours, just like my 2020 Super Bowl Champion Buccaneers !!!! TB12 for President in 2024.... Your major, unforgivable Mistakes were: no Seattle Slew OR Citation(last Triple Crown Winner before Secretariat [1948]....also I really believe Rachel Alexandra deserves to be either #9 or #10....AND Last mistake: American Pharoah Definitely around #7 or #8 for me, he has traces of Man'O'War blood & breeding...YES he does, Google it.....Pharoah Won Triple Crown + Breeders Cup Classic....lastly, let me lay out a CONFIRMED fact /stat : 1977 - Slew WINS Belmont, 1992 his Son A.P. Indy Wins Belmont, 2007 AP Indy's Daughter Wins Belmont(Rags-to Riches, first Philly in 102 years to WIN the Belmont Stakes & 1st Philly to Win race run 1 1/2 miles....Ironically, 1905 Winner was a Philly but NOT run at that distance, think it was either at: 1 1/4 or 1 1/8 or 1 3/16.....either way Seattle Slew still does NOT get credit he deserves, period....

Time settles everything! You don't have to be a scientist which I know you are not!

@@davidrosado9642 no, it doesn't. Lets take Man O'War and secretariat. Times don't mean anything because of the technology, tracks became faster, so times improved, Secretariat had lightweight aluminium shoes while Man O'War had steel one, that made him a lot slower, plus he was ALWAYS carrying a lot more weight that Secretariat ever, sometimes more than his jockey. So of course his times would not have been as good as Secretariats. And Man O'War has won a race by 100 length.

The whole is predicated upon comparisons via the handicapping and weight for age scales. Times are irrelevant but the level of domination as a product of the quality of opposition is a useful means of comparison. Not an exact science but ratings can be a useful measure for horses of the modern era.

Usain Bolt has run 100 metres in the mid 8 second mark. In relays.

+Livvy MoonStar i think ruffian and man o war were better

+Livvy MoonStar man o war was the fastest horse on the planet

+starbreyer horses10 your wrong secretariat is #1

+Elizabeth Gladevalley no he is not

man o war was better

Look up Phar lap he race every second day not much breaks at all back in them days they never had breaks but U must today

back then the highest purses for TOP THOROUGHBREDS might have been $20,000 - $25,000 so they raced as much as possible

Seabiscuit's the type of horse I like.

@@marknorris1381 🥰❤🐎

She+Lauren W Zenyatta ?? seriously, she beat the same horses in California for most of her wins.

@@scramble100 who the hell did Ruffian beat. She raced in New York literally her whole career

Won 18 of 19 races against other fillies and mares... she’s not in a top 50 conversation. It’s a shame that this video doesn’t include this big place that’s not in America called THE REST OF THE WORLD

Seattle Slew and Bid left off...A 4 yr old must have slapped this together

@@bgardiner3354 Americans, generallly, have a tendency to only be concerned about what is going on in their own back yards. And on a per capita of population basis their support of horse racing is not up there with several other nations.

Secretariat is my absolute favorite. Not just because of his speed and outrageous beauty, the horse really had personality to boot:)

The king had a bad leg all his life best thoroughbred ive seen, and best pacer my late dads great mate jack miles had it the mighty mount eden

This winx is something though she would have won the cup better horse than rekindling

Didn't stanley dancer say the great mount was best horse he ever drove when it went to America sadly it broke down

😘😘

Come on that's nonsense. Trainers in this part of the world train horses DIFFERENTLY to Europe. Trainers here prefer to race their horses into fitness much more than endless amounts of slow work. Why is that difficult to grasp ? There are not that many races around for stayers and that is the primary reason you see them bob up in 7f and 8f races early in their preps. Some of the very good horses can win them too. They are racehorses not museum exhibits. Trainers don't run their horses in unsuitable races to get a low weight in the Melbourne Cup. That is nonsense. You should make yourself aware of the qualifying conditions of the Melbourne Cup. The TOP 24 horses IN THE WEIGHTS, who are either qualified (in previous year by winning or placing in a Group race at 2300m or beyond or run 4th or 5th in a Group race in which horses older than 3 could run, again at 2300m or beyond - horses who have qualified by running 4th or 5th rarely make the field as they don't get enough weight) or are exempt from the ballot having won one of the qualifying races, such as a Cox Plate, Sydney Cup, an Arc, Sheema Classic etc. Previous placed runs in the Caulfield and Melbourne Cup can also qualify you. There are 4 races which ensure its winners direct passage into the Melbourne Cup of that same year. The winners of the Lexus Stakes, run 3 days before the Cup (Example: Signoff earned a spot in the 2014 Melbourne Cup by winning the 2014 Lexus Stakes. He was weighted 6.5kg under WFA (51.5kg) after receiving a 1kg penalty for his win on the Saturday, but was automatically elevated into the race. He finished fourth) as well as the Caulfield Cup, the Cox Plate and as of 2015, The Bart Cummings (a 2500m Group 3 race run in early October) receive a ‘free pass’ to the Melbourne Cup. They are automatically included at the top of the ballot order, regardless of what weight they have already been allotted. The 2500m Bart Cummings was the race last year's Cup winner Almandin WON to qualify. Had Alamndin not won it's very likely he would have missed out on a Melbourne Cup start, unless he won the Lexus Stks (but he would have also received a weight penalty) or somehow qualified to run in the Caulfield Cup and won it (again receiving a weight penalty) or placed and sneaking in as one of the top 24 weighted horses who were qualified. The truth is it's very hard to qualify AND have a light weight unless you WIN one of the qualifying races that exempts you from the ballot. If you win one of the qualifying races you deserve to be in the final 24 horse field

Yes it is nonsense. Our stayers are trained differently. They are in shorter races to keep them sharp so they retain a turn of foot. We have lots of horses who perform over a variety of distances. Some of the more notable ones in the last 30 - 40 years include Kingston Town, Red Anchor, More Joyous, Saintly, Makybe Diva, Winx Sunline, Northerly, Better Loosen Up etc etc. Look at Mahogany......he won Australia's 2 biggest Derbies by big margins and he won Australia's premier 5f Grp1 sprint TWICE. You reckon he cheapened that race ? He was also a narrow 2nd in a Cox Plate to a champion 3yo who was getting 20lbs off him at WFA. Look At Shaftesbury Avenue. He won Australia's premier 5f Grp1, Australia's premier 6f Gro1 handicap as well as Grp1's at 8f, 10f and was runner up in a Japan Cup at 12f. You never see it because your trainers are far too preoccupied with maintaining a winning streak at a set distance, usually beating the same horses, so they can then be hailed at stud. Our trainers are more in the business of winning races. BOTH are perfectly satisfactory options. Many of your very good horses don't even race on past their 3yo year. How do we even know if the best bloodlines are being carried on from stallions who only raced up until 3yo ? They simply may have been more precocious than there opposition at that age. Others may turn out to be much better as older horses. Please, don't ever talk about throwing horses into races with no chance. You have pacemakers orchestrating all your Grp1 races. Our Grp1 horses do their own work. They are now 'towed' into their races by their pacemaker. That's why it's harder to maintain such a big unbeaten run. When we do get a horse with a big winning streak that includes many Grp1's it's time to sit up and take notice.You have stablemates deliberately avoiding each other so one doesn't beat the other. And I said "slow work" not "slow runs". Runs = races. Work = training.

I'm TELLING you Kingston Town would have destroyed any horse over there from 6f - 12f. That I am as certain of as I can be. The track is not meant to be challenging. The track is meant to be fair. The opposition horses are the challenge first and foremost, followed by the distance and much less ground conditions Should have nothing to do with the track configuration. A 1200m race should feel like a 1200m race. not a 1400m - 1600m race because it's up the side of a hill. That's why we have races over varying distances. Class horses can win over a range of distances. The late great Colin Hayes trained Jeune to win a 7f Grp1 C F Orr Stks 1st up in his autumn campaign after he won a Melbourne Cup at 2 miles. He did the same thing with At Talaq. Now that's a training feat. Bart Cummings did it with Saintly a well. He was a Melbourne Cup winner and a Cox Plate winner. That's what separates class horses/trainers from the rest. You can keep mentioning trainers cheating to get a winnable weight in a Melbourne Cup but 160 years of history suggests you are the deluded one. Prove it. Surely you can give me 5 or 10 horses out of 160 where their trainer "cheated" so as to give them a winnable weight. I've already explained the conditions of getting into the race. The HIGHEST weighted runners get in !!!! So to manoeuvre your runner to get into a Melbourne Cup with a low weight is fraught with danger and smacks of arrogance. You could count on 1 hand the amount of trainers who KNEW they had the winner of a Melbourne Cup before it actually happened

"The Irish Champion Stakes, which has been frequently rated in the top 5 world best turf races each year (including last year as The best top rated turf race- or laughably jointed best turf horse to Cox Plate - a fucking political decision and no more when you look at ratings and the amount of Group 1 winners or lack thereof) is up there." lol political decision ? On what count ? It was rated that way as there was a superstar in it. One that is superior to EVERY European middle distance horse !!"As for other Europe trainers........go read the resume of both Aidan O'Brien and Sir Michael Stoute and their performances on the world stage from the US, to Dubai, to Japan, and recently Australia ". Of course European trainers travel their horses. It costs money to train them and the money available in Europe is ordinary at best."Racing is not for the chumps with more money than sense in Europe! The real money is made in the stud. No wonder it is European based owners that are dominating the breeding Industry." Are you kidding me. LESS than 1% of every horse that is bred goes onto become a commercially viable stallion. LESS than 1% !!!! There must be a lot of broke arse breeders/owners in Europe. Oh wait, there's fuck all owners that were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. What a shit industry. Dominated by a few. Ours in vibrant with mass participation, mainstream media coverage, more horses, more races, more racetracks, more stakemoney. Our stakemoney is THE reason we have mass participation, including this little black duck. Imagine going to the yearling sales knowing that you have a LESS than 1% chance of buying a horse who is going to go on and become a commercially viable stallion. No thanks.

"granted, his trainer is brutal, just flogs his horses in handicaps at 2 years, gives them no time to grow and develop". He's now grown, mature and developed. Probably why we are seeing the best of him but we'll overlook that right. Minding was winning fillies races, not open class Grp1's. There's a massive difference. Next thing you'll be telling me Zenyatta was a better horse at her distances than what Black Caviar was at hers. Why do you think Highland Reel flopped in the ICS ? Probably the same reason he flopped in the Sheema Classic. Safe to say he needs good or firm ground to show his best. He's adept at both 10f and 12f when he gets good or firm ground and let's face it, many horses are in that same boat. He got those conditions in the Cox Plate. He also got a fast pace (track and race record), which surely helps a horse who's just as good at 12f over horses who don't get 12f. So he had everything to suit that day and Winx handed him his arse to the tune of 6l. Now Highland Reel didn't run badly as he still ran 3rd. It's just that Winx is clearly a superior animal. If that wasn't enough she won the Doncaster and then the Cox Plate the following year by even further and has put together a streak of 17 straight wins over a range of distances.. When a horse does that believe me you sit up and take notice. Yankee Rose is only lightly raced. Already a Grp1 winner at 2yo and 3yo and a Cox Plate placegetter as a 3yo filly. Surround was the last 3yo filly to win that race and that was in 1976. The Oaks was a bridge too far at 12.5f. She's bred to be a miler. Her sire was a Grp1 mile winner. So it's fair to say she's in the mould of a Sunline, More Joyous and even Winx. Milers who can get 10f. Of course she still has much to do to get to the level of those horses. She's been given time after her tough spring campaign so that should stand her in good stead. The peak performance of Winx pushed up the rating of the Cox Plate.

Around ten,maybe.But what a horse.Saw the two Arc de Triomphe Ribot won on video.Fabulous horse!

Not when when he lost with every chance

Seabiscuit will always be my favorite.❤🐎

well this is probably looking at flat horses but you're right regarding frankel, BC, STS and dubawi anyway..!

I know now that this is an incomplete list, I made this list when I was 11.

TBH it could always be a non stop list as there's new stars every season and certain horses don't get the full recognition because they aren't given time to prove or show there full potential

RED RUM

Red rum was good but crisp was better. The only time they met at equal lweights crisp won by 10.

There are 3 male descendant lines that almost all great racehorses around the world: Nearco, Native Dancer and Princequillo. The truly fastest hores in histrory have seep (Nearco) and endurance (Princepuillo with the oversized hearts). Secretariat, Seattle Slew, AP Indy, Sham, Zenyatta, California Chrome, Cigar, Winx, American Pharoah and Makybe Diva are just an examples). Some have all 3. Native dancer especially with Nearco accounts for almost all derby triple crown winners since the 80's. Native Dancer also comes with a curse for weak leg runners. Ruffian, Eight Belles, Barbaro and Pine Island are all descendants of Native Dancer's curse.

WeGotDat GoodMuzikMayne where’s Barbaro?

@@mdomind Barbaro? He didnt do enough

@@TheJustjim3333 LITSEN HERE OK? BARBARO TRIED HE FOUGHT FOR HIS LIFE U SAY HE DID NOT DO ENOUGH!!?? ARE YOU EVEN A HuMAn??

@@spaz5138 didn't do enough on the track

Nope Seattle Slew

@@boswindle9050 lol...

@@baq8680 whats so funny? Seattle Slew is the inly horse in 118 years to win the Triple Crown undefeated at the time he won it. Seattle Slew is also the only Triple Crown winner in history to beat another Triple Crown winner twice. Not so funny now is it?

So was Phat Lap

+Piers Nye Ummm Phar Lap was NOT American LOL, he was an Australian horse bred in New Zealand. That's why he was called "The Red Terror From Down Under".

Sea Bird, Ribot, Nyjinsky, Sea the Stars, Frankel, Gallileo......all from Europe......phenomenal horses and not one of them listed here......typical American bias shown in this clip

Phar Lap wasn't an American race horse.

@@gordonhamilton727 Phar Lap was not an America race horse, but yes, this is American bias. They don't even have the American racehorses correct. Man O War is always #1, never Secretariat, who lost too many races. The true top 10 would obviously include other great racehorses besides Phar Lap, from other countries. This list is a farce. Even the Americans have their horses listed incorrectly. Seabiscuit, really, as number 3? Where is the American racehorse Citation? Much better than Seabiscuit. These idiots don't even know American thoroughbreds, you can't expect them to know other nations great racehorses.

@@kimkearney5419 I'm afraid it's the same in England, The rating agency Timeform is a joke, horses like Lammtarra never got the rating they were due, purely based on the distance they won by. Given a rating of 130, this English Derby (set the course record), King George, and Prix du d'arc winner was way better than Shergar, and Celtic Swing who were given 140 and 138 respectively. Each point represents one and a third lengths to a mile and a half classic horse. This would mean Shergar would have beaten Lammtarra by 13 lengths.....despite winning his Derby in 1981, over 12 seconds slower than Lammtarra,s on the same going.....its not just an American thing.

Thank you. I rooted for Sham in the triple crown races, but to this day don't know why he is treated as an all-time great. 5/13 is good but certainly not great and not a "sure triple crown winner" if Secretariat hadn't run. I also admire Seabiscuit, but most people only know him because of the very inaccurate movie. A very gritty, good horse, but nowhere near a top ten all-time horse. So very few people today know anything about horses prior to 1973 or from Europe, making their lists less than compelling. These videos would be much better I think if they were presented as, "these are my all-time top favorite horses."

That's right, where's Zenyatta, she's got to be #8 or #9 , no question...she reminds me in some ways of Ruffian, obviously totally different racing styles, Ruffian a front runner & Zenyatta a closer....problem would have been, when Zenyatta coming around Top of the stretch & out-racing everyone badly down the stretch, she's still 3-4 Lengths Behind Ruffian, but so wat ONLY 1 horse in Racing History ahead of Ruffian and thats Secretariat by a length, breaking another record.....The next 5 , 11-15 has to have: Rachel Alexandra, Risen Star, Lady's Secret, Genuine Risk & Silver Charm (1997)....wat about Serena's Song

Thai for lightning

The original Red Terror

Kingston Town was undoubtedly a champion. I remember him when I was a boy. So versatile too. Black Caviar was a specialist sprinter and untouchable at the sprint trips. Both stars

Overrated pussy. not in the same class as Vain or Winx

@@anneshaw9681 oh anne give it up

@@russe19642Overrated pussy

Glad Phar Lap made the list of American Horses but Secritariat even though I'm an Australian has to be the Greatest what he did especially that Belmont Stakes Win in 73 was truly Amazing

Phar Lap's run in October / November 1930 where he won 5 group races in 2 weeks including 3 Group one's - one being the two mile Melbourne Cup carrying a massive 63 kg was amazing. Never to be repeated.

Or maybe Seattle Slew the only undefeated Triple Crown winner until 2015.

@@paulwilliams-or8hq Certainly was. But Phar Lap was excessively heavily weighted above his weight for age benchmark. When he was weighted 68kgs in the 1932 Melbourne Cup, only Carbine & Bernborough had been lofted with the same weight. Both did not run. Phar Lap led into the straight, before finishing 8th. The horse that won, carried just 43.54kg! Nowadays, they are weight 51-54kgs. Would be like Maykbe Diva carrying 78.5kgs. Phar Lap could have easily won the 1929-1931 Melbourne Cups, much suspicion in the 1929 3rd placing. Equal 1st Group 1 wins will Tulloch on 27. All achieved at his young age of 5 1/2. Best was yet to come. Secretariat was faster, but Phar Lap was used to heavy weights. Would have been a close, classic race. I'd back The Red Terror.

@@marknorris1381 Well said mate. Phar Lap would have won the 1929 Melbourne Cup as a 3yo, but was held back by the jockey, as he went for it into the straight. Much suspicion & punters lost £1milion pounds apparently. He won in 1930, carrying 62.5kgs. The 1931 Melbourne Cup, he carried 68kgs. Only Carbine had won with such a load, 66kgs in 1890. Phar Lap led into the straight before finishing 8th. The winner, White Nose carried just 43.5kgs. Phar Lap's correct weight for age should have been mid 50's. It'd be like Maykbe Diva carrying 78.5kgs. His Agua Caliente win in 1932, breaking the race record, 7 races held that day, after a massive boat trip & nearly lame from a split hoof, which bled during the race is astonishing. Came from last to 1st in the back section of the track, had a breather & when challenged by Reville Boy, he pulled away again to win. Phar Lap could not be left out of any greatest horse discussion. He was incredible.

yes but isn't that like saying if affirmed hadn't have been in the races alydar would've won the triple crown let's not forget alydar finished 2nd to affirmed in all those races

you don't know that...There are so many bad luck stories in those races.

Exactly, not a very well researched list.

Kinscem? Never heard that name.

dobokaydani Undefeated great horse. Sadly it was a different error so she’s been forgotten.

I know now that this is an incomplete list, I made this list when I was 11.

11?then all is forgiven and i respect your input.

Seabiscuit beat the great War Admiral after coming back from a terrible injury to his leg.

Phar Lap was on the list! 😏

Steph Miller Lol... What the?? I must have dozed off 😨😃

Listen Up, 😉🐎

+Listen Up Hey mate, spot on Pharlap was the greatest, but then we had Kingston town and now the mighty Winx who just loves to flog world class horses, as u know I had to leave quite a few out, list is to long

Listen Up haha black cavier also fastest horse in the world, makybe diva best staying mare? Shit list!

Kelso.

@@marknorris1381 Kelso was, is and always will be the best "race" horse of all time!!!

right and Sean Penn was friends with El Chappo

scouserdan3 agree

yeah Frankel unparalleled. If you look at his Juddemonte win alone, and consider how easily he beat St Nicholas Abbey and Farhh, and what they achieved in their own rights (in America and in Europe), Frankel clearly stands alone as the greatest.

It cant be named best American racehorses as Phar Lap was born and bred in New Zealand

I do agree with Frankel being an outstanding horse and yes possibly the equivalent of others mentioned - not the original list - rather horses nominated by replyers. The problem with Frankel being claimed as the best of all time is that English racing is very different to other countries. The tracks are exceedingly different in surface (firm to slow conditions), pacemakers were used in most of his races, banned in Australia. This makes assessing his competitiveness on race times difficult. If he ran those times in Australian Group1 races he would have been beaten decisively. Only his 22 August 2012, International Stakes at York came close to an Australian track record. So to get an idea of the difficulty in race times comparison see Black Caviar. She wins over 6F/1200M in Adelaide in 1:10:32 and then next runs same distance at Ascot, England in 1:14:10 and not ridden out the last 50 metres. that's the equivalent of 18+ lengths difference. An unsolvable comparison.

+Jack Nolan Well Said Jack..LOVED Black Caviar when she was racing, a wonderful mare. also Frankel too. many are unjustified TBH.

+Cerrie Lang Black Caviar 15 group ones including one at Ascot, and undefeated. Would be hard to see anyone defeating Frankel too. Not completing discounting US horses (American Pharoah was a freak as one example) but with their use of Lasix and their depth in the fields as well as the tracks, its pretty hard to measure them up against the rest of the world. Especially if they don't travel. UK superstars generally race throughout Europe and at the Breeders Cup, Aus champion horses prepared to test themselves in Hong Kong and Ascot every year. Not many succeed but the ones who do make it pretty hard for critics to discount them as anything but champions- this is what American horses need to do.

+Christy Dolan Until then I'll remain conservatively skeptical about them. On another note, keep an eye out for an Aus mare named Winx, by Street Cry. She's a superstar here already. Won our premier WFA race by 5 lengths over Highland Reel, who won the Hong Kong Vase. Ridiculous turn of foot, she could be anything.

Sea Bird was beaten 8 starts 7 wins 1 2nd

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Every era has its best. check Kincsem. She has a stillunbeaten record she won 54races from her 54 races all over europe.

Lee SOG,yes but frankel never carried 130 as a 2 yr. an 138 lbs. as a 3 yr. giving up to 32 lbs. to his rivals and still winning like MAN OF WAR!Man of War carried 130lbs.in 6 races as a 2 year old and 138 as a 3 year old and still won going away,conceding as much as 32 pounds (15 kg) to other horses.i like Secretartiat but if you had put 130 plus on him he would have shit himself JUST LIKE FRANKEL WOULD HAVE!

joeupyours Tinsley Interesting. I suppose we'll never know.. and they are mighty impressive stats, so you think no horse since Man O War would have lived with him?

+Lee SOG I agree frankels the best ive seen, and I flew from Australia in 2012 to watch him at ascot and goodwood,and black caviar the greatest sprinter I have ever seen, won on the saturdayat ascot, but I feel in her career,she was protected,stiill 25 wins undefeated.

+nick hobart How was Black Caviar protected ? She raced on straight tracks, turning tracks, left handed, right handed, on almost every major track in Aust. She travelled half way round the world to race at Royal Ascot. She started 25 times, 15 of them in Grp1 races. She own's the FASTEST and 2 of the 3 fastest times at Australia's premier track. She beat close to 50 individual Grp1 winners. Twice she was injured in races yet she still prevailed. She holds the weight carrying record for a mare in Australia's oldest Grp1 sprint race. For all that she ended her career without a single horse beating her. 25 wins from 25 starts incl an Australasian record 15 Grp1 wins.

+AnotherFastnet70 maybe I used the wrong phase,im not knocking her,as I said above shes the best spinter ive seen, maybe I should have said well placed,and that is the trainers job.

She was a legend💚💙

My_Bay_Jed they left her out, sad...shes amazing.

mike smith rode her brilliantly, never asking for more than he needed from her. if he'd asked for it all, I'm sure she'd blown away any racehorse during any era, with her ears pricked foward.

Julie Ayton Yates Never forget her

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