10 Inch Vertical Output Shaft Part 1

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Abom79

Abom79

6 жыл бұрын

This two part video will be about another large gearbox shaft I recently machined at work. This shaft is a vertical output shaft that is used in a high corrosive environment. There was deep corrosion on several of the journals, as well as the 32MM keyway on the coupling end was stretched. Material used was 4140 heat treated, quenched and tempered.

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@Badgermatt-nc5nr
@Badgermatt-nc5nr 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, as much as I love watching all you videos, I still think the best part of every one of them is the picture of you and you Dad and Grandfather at the end. Love it man.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Badgermatt75 2016 Thanks!
@howder1951
@howder1951 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, it touches me every time I see it as well.
@astrakkoturutrais2185
@astrakkoturutrais2185 6 жыл бұрын
Those hands...
@captcarlos
@captcarlos 5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree the picture of 3 generations side by side touches me too.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 6 жыл бұрын
My wife, Karin and I just had dinner, patés and baguette with a 2005 St. Emillion and we watched you whittle down that big ol' block or rusty metal. The best Saturday evening we've had in months. Your videos are so perfect it's really a delight to watch them. Thanks so much. I really appreciate your taking the time to write down feeds, speeds and DOCs, etc.
@Andrewlang90
@Andrewlang90 6 жыл бұрын
Bruce Boschek I wish my wife was as cool as yours. If I showed my wife this, she’d watch for 30 seconds, say “That’s nice honey” and walk away. Well done sir
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Boschek You have a cool wife Bruce! Glad to hear your guys enjoy some Abom over some fine dining.
@Phantomthecat
@Phantomthecat 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lang - my wife would do exactly the same. :)
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lang Yeah, mine goes in the other room and watches a hockey or football game. Some women....
@beaugeste2493
@beaugeste2493 6 жыл бұрын
My Mrs wouldn't let me anywhere near the Saint-Emilion, especially 2005!
@blue-runner
@blue-runner 6 жыл бұрын
Been a machinist for 45 years, on the desk side of the shop now, love my Saturday fix to watch the chips fly. Thanks for another great video.
@samc5898
@samc5898 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I know it's more editing work but I think the tool specs and cut specs on the screen really give it a more professional feel
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Sam C Thanks, done by popular request
@josephwilson6651
@josephwilson6651 6 жыл бұрын
This is what I enjoy most on your channel the chips, shiny metal,smoke, and oil.The aroma of Industry I fondly remember from my days as an metal engraver.Enduring humidity, heat,and cold. Hot chips stinging when they find flesh.The sound of H S S taking its bite,Carbide hurtling chips of bronze, chipping the paint off the block wall like so many miniature missles
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Wilson Well said! I enjoy it all just the same.
@forrestaddy9644
@forrestaddy9644 6 жыл бұрын
Man! You gotta be the Gravy King of Pensacola. Every week a video of heavy stock removal with nothing to do but dial in, pull the clutch, shovel chips, and work crossword puzzles. Productivity combined with nap-time. Criminal seniority. Nice discussion of inserts, feeds and speeds, stock removal, chip control etc. Buckshot chips are a PITA. Funny how a little change in chip breaker design makes the difference between a gentle cascade of chips down onto the carriage wing and a high velocity fountain broadcasting chips in a seven foot circle. Back when dinosaur crossings made me late for work, the tool pedlars used to flood the shop with "carbide calculators." These were specialized plastic coated card stock slide rules with scales and windows on which work parameters were set-up and feeds, speeds, RPM, etc were read out for machine settings. They also had brief tables charting material reccomendations, carbide grades, coatings, etc. Super convenient after a little practice and they fit in a shirt pocket. I'm good at mental math and a pocket calculator but these little slide rule gizmos were so much quicker and convient and they'd give you a half dozen data points for three input parameters. I retired with a 4" stack of them now long gifted away. Are these still offered? Would they be a topic for a video segment? You have a good ear for machine loading if I'm any judge but a load meter (am I nagging?) takes all the guess work out of maximizing a machine tool's stock removal. You got 15 horses? Put 'em to work. You can buy a cheap multi-function digital ammeter complete with a current transformer on eBay for $10 - $20. Thread a motor lead through the current transformer and run low Volts DC to the meter. Poke the button until the display reads Amps. They may not be super accurate but your electrician can compare its reading against his good one and give you a correction factor.
@zugmeister4509
@zugmeister4509 6 жыл бұрын
You know, when you watch the videos of how they rough forge these shafts it always amazes me that they're so accurate since they all seem to be working by eye.
@johncollins719
@johncollins719 6 жыл бұрын
Like the tip about recutting the center with the compound after your swap ends. I learn something from all of your videos. Thanks!
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+John Collins That’s important with shaft work on the lathe. Good to use if you weld up the end of shafts also.
@nightriderrv1139
@nightriderrv1139 6 жыл бұрын
It's great that you can film at work again happy you and the boss could work something out to do so...
@andrewterry8092
@andrewterry8092 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make me wish I had been a machinist. Thanks, Adam!
@touchgo7281
@touchgo7281 6 жыл бұрын
I just love watching big turning... big lathe=chip chunker.. small lathe=sliver slinger LOL. I fit in the second category... I have learned a lot from you, Thanks!!
@markjaynes7151
@markjaynes7151 6 жыл бұрын
You are the Michelangelo of the machine shop! It's a pleasure to watch the pride you take in your work.
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video and such a pleasure watching a professional working. Thanks Adam.
@mopar6manbrad390
@mopar6manbrad390 6 жыл бұрын
Great work as always. Thanks for sharing!!! Look forward to all your videos.
@benbilling4268
@benbilling4268 6 жыл бұрын
It's kind of fascinating, watching this big piece of raw steel being shaped into a shaft,pulley,gear whatever piece of machinery is required. Most people just don't have any idea what kind of skills it takes to keep society running. Excellent work Adam, as always Ben
@deezelfairy
@deezelfairy 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely adore watching these ol' ladies work hard
@MegaApenstaartje
@MegaApenstaartje 6 жыл бұрын
I like how fast paced this is. Thanks for the video Abom.
@63256325N
@63256325N 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to video your work.
@shoppy00
@shoppy00 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, love your videos. The part I love most is when the tool cuts into raw rusty unturned metal, the way it cuts into the rust and you can see how the piece is not turned true and how it has lowspots. Keep doing what you're doing, hope you're feeling better with your legs.
@phantomlord71usa
@phantomlord71usa 6 жыл бұрын
11:54 Machinist Calc Pro. Awesome calculator. I got mine a couple years ago, and later upgraded to their newer version Calc Pro 2 about 8 months ago. The layout is slightly different on the version 2 model, but still does the same things plus a couple of newer features thrown in. I've also got the updated android app for my smartphone. Both of which I use pretty much on a daily basis in the shop or office. Makes figuring out a starting point on speeds and feeds childs play. Our shop has a few users that are notorious for just throwing something up on the mill or lathe and running it at whatever rpm and feed the last person used it at. I hammer down that the inserts aren't cheap for a pack of 10. I printed out formulas for them to figure it out properly, only to get complaints it was too complicated. I bought a few of these calculators for the shop and finally some started using them. A great machinist calculator.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Marv I’ll check it out.
@zadrik1337
@zadrik1337 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a perfect addition to the Heavy Metal Machining series.
@mission772
@mission772 6 жыл бұрын
Love watching those chips fly! Thanks.
@jamesfeisley2810
@jamesfeisley2810 6 жыл бұрын
Really like the panoramic view! It gives the full scope of the work to be done on the project. Great content....*as usual Adam!*
@bobkins270
@bobkins270 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam. Awesome machining.
@GregBurgess360
@GregBurgess360 6 жыл бұрын
I like the shot of all the chips changing colors from the heat
@deltamachine2059
@deltamachine2059 6 жыл бұрын
I like how you show length measurements. I'm spoiled with a DRO. Im going to try your method on my next shaft job. Thanks.
@nothermarkgnomex
@nothermarkgnomex 6 жыл бұрын
I never considered how much material ended up in the chip bin until I started watching machining videos. That's close to half the billet in some of your jobs. Impressive amounts of metal removal. I'm not saying you should provide it but it would be interesting to see where some of the shafts you make end up in operation. That's heavy metal! Happy to watch it happen. Thanks!
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+nothermark If I could travel to the locations and be given access to film I would.
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin 6 жыл бұрын
Looks great thus far, you have inspired me to experiment with feeds & speeds lately, the chips have been a huge improvement on my end. Thx
@johnstrange6799
@johnstrange6799 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another Saturday.
@justinl.3587
@justinl.3587 6 жыл бұрын
You would have loved this old Monarch lathe we had at work years ago. Numerous times the old man who ran it was taking 0.500"-0.750" per side and that old machine never skipped a beat. It was also "slightly" larger with a 5 foot swing diameter. :P
@________llotuss_______________
@________llotuss_______________ 6 жыл бұрын
nice to see some footage at your work again, heavy machining is the bomb.
@uptechextreme2921
@uptechextreme2921 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, love watching the big project videos :) Makes me miss machining from the 1990's :)
@turbocobra
@turbocobra 6 жыл бұрын
Just a lot of work that goes into those gearbox shafts, enjoyed the video and the experiment with the inserts
@gregmarchegiani6656
@gregmarchegiani6656 6 жыл бұрын
Good job as always, an art your job is
@bradleyb.williams1312
@bradleyb.williams1312 6 жыл бұрын
At 3:50 THE ABOM TORQUE !! Great videos Adam . Awesome when a new vid comes out !! THANKS
@bradleyb.williams1312
@bradleyb.williams1312 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU , Adam . From a dedicated viewer .
@robertwatsonbath
@robertwatsonbath 6 жыл бұрын
Woah! the old Pacemaker was pulling hard with that 432 insert. I think was as relieved as the Pacemaker when you called time and switched to your trusty Iscar!
@john-netoh
@john-netoh 5 жыл бұрын
Am very impressed with the way u setup the work piece and the tool. I pick up alot of things watching your video, i wish i will work in your best company one day
@ChrisBrown-dy8ts
@ChrisBrown-dy8ts 4 жыл бұрын
When I turn large Dia, shafts like this and the chips are coming off like when you first started to cut , even cutting .020” less depth can make a big difference, also I often move the tool in the tool post as a different angle of attack can also make a big difference . Nice job your doing , enjoying watching your videos from one Manual machinist to another. 👍
@elliotwilkinson3309
@elliotwilkinson3309 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work there mate.
@stargatefred
@stargatefred 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. When I was working maintenance at a welding shop about 12 years ago. I brought a horizontal mill back to life that looked a lot like the one you were using. After I made it rise from the dead they realized there didn't have anyone in the shop that could use it. So it just sits in the corner getting more rusty. Just like me. Bill from Seattle.
@magnusklahr8190
@magnusklahr8190 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!👍
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Adam: GREAT video, I really REALLY like the graphic detail you put in about the metrics, e.g. SFM, RPM, etc. It helps me validate what Im doing right and reevaluate when I'm significantly different--thanks! BTW, it takes real balls to power tap these shafts......and some ABOM skill. I would probably twist one off and spend the day digging it out.....way cool!
@anthonyambler9688
@anthonyambler9688 6 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a firm a lot like motion in the uk. I left that to work in maintenance for the gas industry. I’ve got a home workshop now with lathes and a miller but still miss the big stuff seeing a big lump of steel on the machine shop floor used to get me up in the morning. We made the mixer for toblerone chocolate I still tell people I made the shafts it runs on complete with 2.5” bsp left hand internal thread for the steam ports
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 6 жыл бұрын
Great work Adam, enjoyed! ATB, Robin
@cojones8518
@cojones8518 6 жыл бұрын
15:40 The torturous sound of metal bending to the will of Abom.
@JoggingWithForks
@JoggingWithForks 6 жыл бұрын
That's a nice 10 inch vertical output shaft you've got there. That's what she said. I'll show myself out.
@TomZelickman
@TomZelickman 6 жыл бұрын
That's moving some serious metal! Nice work, sir. TZ
@SteveSummers
@SteveSummers 6 жыл бұрын
You got some really good shots and lots of good info jamed in here.Really good video Adam, I enjoyed it. Thanks. Steve Summers
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Steve Summers Goad you enjoyed Steve
@chuckturner6984
@chuckturner6984 6 жыл бұрын
Steve, what do you think about Adam's new shaper? That thing is a hoss, huh?
@twagner6155
@twagner6155 6 жыл бұрын
I dig the machining. I machined crankshafts for John Deere, Cummins, Cat and others. I would personally use a continuous stream of coolant.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 6 жыл бұрын
As ever - watching huge quantities of stock removal is impressive! A real "blue chip" process :)
@danmetzger5583
@danmetzger5583 6 жыл бұрын
A new work video.......yea! Been a while since you were able to do a full one.
@saartal4524
@saartal4524 6 жыл бұрын
WOW... I think the best expression would be "Accurate metal art" beautiful...
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 6 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO !!
@pugwashsecond
@pugwashsecond 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how the design of the chip breaker insert is so critical as to the direction that the chips fly off at.
@PhilsProjects
@PhilsProjects 6 жыл бұрын
Serious metal! cool stuff Adam
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Phil's Projects Thanks Phill
@alex4alexn
@alex4alexn 6 жыл бұрын
these heavy metal removal vids are so awesome!
@joopterwijn
@joopterwijn 6 жыл бұрын
The shaft king!
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese 6 жыл бұрын
Great skill indeed
@Realtime1501
@Realtime1501 6 жыл бұрын
I recognize the 4140 scream , getting it to chip is a pain depending on heat treatment condition, anything above condition P is annoying but it always gives a great finish
@sydneyshinshi
@sydneyshinshi 6 жыл бұрын
So that's how they get stickers off.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Michael Magill You mean how machinists get stickers off
@roderickwhitehead
@roderickwhitehead 6 жыл бұрын
Well, that Josie Maran hand lotion stuff works pretty good for removing stickers as well.
@sydneyshinshi
@sydneyshinshi 6 жыл бұрын
Eucalyptus oil takes the sticky residue off like magic.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+R.C. Whitehead Well played
@gentharris
@gentharris 6 жыл бұрын
Making that lathe earn its keep! awesome
@jimc3688
@jimc3688 6 жыл бұрын
Range is hot. Eyes and ears !
@Makermook
@Makermook 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the original shaft, you'd think with how expensive the piece is (not to mention the cost of downtime), there would be safeguards in place to keep it lubed and protected from such terrible corrosion.
@HealthThroughNutrition
@HealthThroughNutrition 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that it sounded like it was struggling a little before you dropped the speed rate and how happy I was to have my earphones on hahaaa I'm a div watching milling with headphones on.
@cptbimes1
@cptbimes1 6 жыл бұрын
Some serious metal removal in this series Adam
@thomasbroking7943
@thomasbroking7943 5 жыл бұрын
That must have taken time to set up un the lathe.. 👍👍 intimidating big cutting
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 6 жыл бұрын
great share man , The chips are AWESOME ! just not flying up .. LOL.. Thanks ..
@awesomo9262
@awesomo9262 6 жыл бұрын
the chips are beautiful :O 18:27
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 4 жыл бұрын
If the load today sounded worse that the same the other day - it might be the power company has browned out the power lines giving you lower voltage and thus lower current. Larger current to start and less power all of the time. They also can brown down so much lights don't trigger on. Take care. Good job.
@thatoneguy9660
@thatoneguy9660 6 жыл бұрын
Adam great video thanks for taking the time that is involved with putting such a video together. Which brings me to my question about how many hours does a big shaft like this take to make? I'm guessing 8 hours so far. Keep up the great work, thanks again for all you do.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 6 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@richardscott6716
@richardscott6716 6 жыл бұрын
Adam. Hi. Thank you for mentioning hearing protection. Hope you don’t mind my saying that I hope you are as conscientious about hearing protection as you are about eye protection. Enjoyed the video. Be well,
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Richard Scott Richard I use my ear plugs all day everyday. I do that in my own account.
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 6 жыл бұрын
Good thing to hear. Or in a few years you can also hear the cricket choir of tinnitus like many of us old farts....
@Yagba09
@Yagba09 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. The machining and information you share is a treat. But, what always leaves me hanging is. Where do the parts belong when you finish? I would love to see a video or a photo of where the parts you machine belong. Gives a meaning to an end. Keep the videos coming!
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Sloth I don’t get to see the parts installed in the field. Most of them from work are for paper mills and heavy industry.
@howder1951
@howder1951 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I really like these workplace projects and I am glad they allow you to show them. Have you ever "saved the bacon" by using a video file as reference? I am sure you get the odd repeat job that might benefit from a review. Cheers bro!
@ledineialves6995
@ledineialves6995 6 жыл бұрын
muito bom seu trabalho,,,,,,
@triphonikstudio
@triphonikstudio 6 жыл бұрын
I was worried the sticker was going to be too much for the cutting tool when you faced the other end.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 6 жыл бұрын
That 10in diameter makes a noticeable difference on how hard it pulls the lathe over that 8" one you did a while back. I never tripped the overload protection on My Monarch until I was turning on the outside of a 16" piece. I was trying to take a cut like I would on an 8" and it would have none of that!! lol
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+bcbloc02 Yea man, that’s some surface feet. I’m happy with the 1/2” passes but depending on the diameter I have to change the feed around a bit.
@petersmith3703
@petersmith3703 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and impressive in metal removal. Is it possible to know, roughly, the initial cost of the 'raw' 10" shaft and also to know to percentage of metal removed for the new shaft ? Many thanks PS
@nighteyergbg
@nighteyergbg 5 жыл бұрын
How many speakers were destroyed while watching the video? 😄😄 Good Video like ever. 👍👍
@CompEdgeX2013
@CompEdgeX2013 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one. :-)
@EdMeyer22
@EdMeyer22 5 жыл бұрын
Glorious chips
@BTN1979BoBo
@BTN1979BoBo 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever dropped a shaft on the floor? I put the chains on a big plate wrong in my time as apprentice, so it collapsed when i lifted it. I put the chains to wide. But got out from under it before it collapsed.
@HellTriX
@HellTriX 6 жыл бұрын
damn heavy metal
@vergilstatus2975
@vergilstatus2975 6 жыл бұрын
Guys just asking .. i overhaul rotary compressors and sometimes the shafting with the gear leaves marks .. do i need to heat the gear even more or its just normal ? Thanks And btw Abom79 really love your workpiece
@wktodd
@wktodd 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting cyclic sound as you're turning the big end, sounds like the bar has a harder section off centre . Do you ever fear you'll cut too much , just because it's cutting so well and h ya just don't wanna stop' :-)
@mechanicalking
@mechanicalking 6 жыл бұрын
I giggled when you faced off the sticker
@mehsborka7142
@mehsborka7142 5 жыл бұрын
Ты просто красавчик!
@jjlong5037
@jjlong5037 6 жыл бұрын
ohh fresh barstock or at least looks like its just brought in and virgin based on the fact it has a lable on it, time to make from scratch, do you ever use diamond tipped insert cutters, or is it not really a thing in machineing beside carbide inserts? also what is the differance between a regular ruler and a machinests scale? just curious is it more markings on the machinest scale?
@deanhilleman
@deanhilleman 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding the gentlemen at the end of this Video . The Gentleman in the center Is a ringer for my Dad. He lived to the age of 103 . The resemblance is amazing !
@johnrobinson6449
@johnrobinson6449 5 жыл бұрын
I was 10 minutes into this video and was just about to ask if that was 4140 or 4150 by the looks of the chips and finish. I happened to click "SHOW MORE" on your video notes and got my answer. :-)
@SynchroScore
@SynchroScore 5 жыл бұрын
What's that shaft on the back side of the lathe for? I'm guessing some kind of power rapid traverse for such a long machine, maybe?
@Max_Marz
@Max_Marz 6 жыл бұрын
time to put a bigger motor on the lathe hah
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Max Maruszewski I need that 30 HP heavy duty model
@fnordingers
@fnordingers 6 жыл бұрын
How many HP/kW does this model have? Will it eventually switch off when the motor overheats?
@leonallen1973
@leonallen1973 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can show how to adjust the tail stock if you cut a slight taper........ just for the guys that are new to machining
@brand-x7049
@brand-x7049 6 жыл бұрын
Iscar COMG, aka the "Right - No More Screwin' Around" tool... XD
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
+Brand-X Yep!
@Marketto8777
@Marketto8777 6 жыл бұрын
how can you machine heat treated and tempered steel? that stuff is hard a hell
@glastornjet73
@glastornjet73 Жыл бұрын
I miss the boring mill footage
@TheDisorderly1
@TheDisorderly1 6 жыл бұрын
10 Inch Vertical Output Shaft? Thats what she said!
@therussianmachinists2409
@therussianmachinists2409 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Why do you drill center holes on the machine? You can prob save some time and just drill them by hand! :) I think they don't need to be in the dead center cause you've got material to take off anyway.
@astreetcone1497
@astreetcone1497 4 жыл бұрын
iirc you are supposed to lower DOC and leave or increase speed or feed with carbide when its having trouble like that, but i could be totally wrong
@chadowens3254
@chadowens3254 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason not to use spray welding to repair the original shaft? I'm guessing over a certain diameter you can not get it to optimum temperature?
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