Jeff is still more popular though, everytime they make their entrance in TNA Jeff is still the most cheered. Jeff also outsold Cena marchandise in 2008-09 and if he never left back in 2009 he would probably be a bigger name than Cena today

Albert Wesker Absolutely not

Yeah, but Jeff had trouble with that sucess and the WWE workload, which contributed to his drug problem. He was brilliant, and still is, but he's a very flawed human being. He could have kept going at that level, or he could have done a "Victory Road 2011" at a WWE PPV. We will never know.

True that's a bit weird

Ahenny97 thought I've seen it all until that happened

How about Dude Love?

Muammar Gibran I, myself, never really liked that gimmick

But the New Day didn't work until they became annoying, the original idea was lame as fck

Bray Wyatt and Demon Finn Balor(Both I adore so it's not an attack, just that neither gimmick should work in 2016)

Watch it!!!....You're almost begging to get put on the list with this comment!~

And the late, great Bruiser Brody.

Big Slow?

Wyatt?

Your mom?

Keith Bubb Bray is big like in belly size but he means big as in height

life is crap When they got the creative freedom to be themselves, it took off

That's New Day 'being themselves'?! Fucking hell, what a trio of absolute cunts.

Lest we forget the crowd shat all over The New Day at first. "Oooh I member" (sorry had to) those atrocious vignettes before they debut as a team. It was only when they changed that people reversed their opinion. They became such a great heel group that WWE just gave in and let them become babyfaces, which rarely happens. Even Jericho is still sticking to his guns even though he is just as over as ever, yet recently before this gimmick change, face or not, he wasn't getting the response he was years ago. Most people regard it as the best incarnation of Jericho to date. Still, they haven't given him a full face turn....yet. It's probably coming though.

Modest Mouse More like being relaxed and funny

They didn't get the gimmick over, they ignored the allelujah gimmick and made a new one in its place that worked

Most people hated the Broken Matt gimmick and made fun of it at first. Is everyone backpedalling?

Matt Smith I feel exactly like him. Final deletion was so dumb, but his commitment to the gimmick as well as the expansion of the gimmick made me love him

Matt Smith honestly I didn't like it at first but it grows on you. Matt's a good worker and it makes it work.

Paul Hensley I think it's too much of a coincidence. I don't think he said anything about liking Matt before this video

I think it's probably genuine (I started off not warming terribly much to it either), but framing it around an advert certainly makes it seem convenient.

What? That’s when I knew it was real!

Bloodraven XX Without a doubt.

I'm inclined to agree. I think some guys might have made it work for a little while, and Glen Jacobs (kane) might have made it work, and perhaps a few others. But not to the same extent and certainly not for 20+ years at the highest level. Mark Calaway is as good as anyone in the history of the business, and certainly the most capable "big guy" in wrestling history. There have been better workers, and better talkers, but Mark as the Undertaker is almost a perfect package of look, in-ring, gimmick and persona.

Also, remember that he was originally gonig to be the Gobbeldy Gooker.

Bloodraven XX Hence why fake-Taker didn't last as long as they originally planned him to.

Bloodraven XX what about Glenn Jacobs

Matt Combs I'm almost entirely sure this gimmick happened because he realized that basically no wrestling fan was going to remember him, but remember his brother, if he didn't think of something soon.

He's basically taken what The Undertaker has done for the past 20-some years and used it for a modern character, which (like Blampied) I didn't really like at first. I thought the entire 'Broken' gimmick was just... stupid. But it's now brilliant

If I didn't know better/wasn't into wrestling I'd actually believe he'd lost his mind. In fact when he first started the Broken thing I was confused and thought he really fell that far.

I honestly believe he has lost it lol with everything that has happened. I just don't see him normal anymore.

Kayfabe is alive!!!

Could you link me this video?

Stefany Kulcheski Djuba I know it is right after Decay invaded their house. Abyss left Jeff wounded and Matt healed him in the river.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8ilmrCj0bulhnk.html (for anyone who wants to see it)

That was hilarious. "THAT'S NOT THE REINCARNATION I NEED! *Redunks Jeff*"

Best part was when Willow showed up. Willow was one of those things where kayfabe meant nothing because Jeff never once hid the fact that he was Willow the Wisp. He had a license plate back in the day that said Willow for crying out loud.

Spidey Rox Haha! Really? That stuff is 100% for real?

andrew de grosa Yeah its true. I think there was a woman who was supposed to be like 137 years old or something.

They even put the world title on a woman.

Matt D They put the title on John Morrison?

I agree. lucha is basically in its own world. its so different you cant help but love it

Callaway... Galloway is from Scotland and once was known as McIntyre

Alot of guys could get over as the undertaker but stay over? That's what takes talent.

Joel Cortez best comment on here lol

Ernie Reyes

Joel Cortez hahahha

YOU OBSOLETE MULE!!

Joel Cortez I thought more like Sweeney Todd☺

I came up with a reason myself. The biker thing was Undertaker trying to get in touch with his waning Mortality.

Personally I think he did it just so he could get a break from the Undertaker persona. You'll notice that he did most of his interviews when he had the biker gimmick. That's because he didn't have to try and keep up appearances by never breaking Kayfabe and not taking part in many social events. He could finally cut loose a little bit. Now that he has the Undertaker gimmick again it's back to pretty much always trying to be in the shadows which I'd personally hate doing.

Thought the reason was that he wanted to be more human, that's why Kane supposedly killed him down the line because of his betrayl of what he was?

not really biker taker been,shown below he became biker taker

i think i've read that he became a biker because he was thinking about retiring and wiht the Biker gimmick he could've retired on his own "Terms" as the Persona of the Deadman that is closest to his real life persona iirc

i think i've read somewhere that Vick indeed is in the book

Kush MasterB yeah but that page is ripped out thou from most copies

Let no one ever forget Katie Vick!

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Kush MasterB i have read the entire book i can confirm tht she got a chpter. well, actually i can confirm that she got more than 1 chptr, but i guess in the end she was deleted DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE, and well u get the idea

ck churusos yes

Yes all the YES! Finally someone else who sees how well that could work!

Make it happen, Vince

*kombat

That's not weird at all. THAT'S FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Poisontype The Junglist what bothers you?

He was a 30 year old man at Hop topic

Poisontype The Junglist Lol let the man be. He's a fucking genius

Where else did you expect him to buy his fishnet shirts and 10 size too large bondage pants that him and Jeff still rocked at the time?

It was top ten mate, I'm sure if it was top 11 they would've made it

Controversial Radio yeah but they were like the worst, most bland gimmick ever, but the superstars themselves made them one of the most over tag teams in the modern era

Albel217 You could say that about The Rock, technically they changed their gimmick, so that bland boring gimmick didn't really get over

Controversial Radio a very good point

Joker Sting Anti Christ Jeff Hardy What is song for wcpw please

Ukraine One Republic Really? I had no idea, if only whatculture said that happened over and over

Ooh I 'member

jbl turned the blue meanie into the red meanie

I don't think WC has ever addressed that situation.

Claude Akel You mean purple because red + blue=... You know

Yep, and no cool names either, just large egos.

Character development is exactly the difference between olympic wrestling and Wrestling Entertainment, i wish WWE did more creative backstage segments and more of storytelling than just ... impressive wrestling only

One of the reasons why I love Lucha Underground. They still have all those cool gimmicks and backstories and characters, all interwoven with Aztec culture and history. Makes a really cool promotion. Then again, a big time movie producer/director is in charge of it, so it only makes sense that the creativity would be there.

i feel the same way. Without gimmicks whats the point? Might as well watch UFC.

Nah dude, UFC doesnt have characters , WWE is now bringing more , but no lol , i prefer staged violence over actual blood and gore anyday

Also Sandow on here too not surprised lol

Adam always liked Sandow! Even when he was in the WWE. He signs on the people that inspires him. He just said he never liked Matt's character, but he always talked about Matt and Jeff Hardy pulling off all of their stunts and being a great tag team. Imagine if you owned an indie circuit and you get to sign on wrestlers. Would you go for the ones you don't care about or the ones that made a huge impact in your life.

yeah it seems really forced, just how they started to go crazy over Kurt Angle when he appeared for them. Kurt Angle IS amazing and deserves all the praise, but they really went overboard with the fawning over him.

And?

I think all of us experienced the same thing... when I first watched the final deletion, I was like, "what is this dogshit"... but after 2 more watch I found it really entertaining...

dude, someone should make a video about it!

redmanra1n somebody should make a shit ton of videos not necessarily about that incident, but also mention it in every one of said videos.

I think that was inspired by Scotty 2 Hotty's The Worm move.

ChiTown Smark "top 10 wrestling moves that shouldn't have worked, but did" make this list

ChiTown Smark it was spinebuster

The real story behind it is actually even better than that. HHH talked about it recently that they had a bet with each other about getting completely ridiculous and pointless moves into house show matches. The rock came up with the people's elbow and did it on house shows for a while and it just got totally over.... to the point that they had no choice but to start bringing into the main picture

Lol I was laughing too much reading this

Not Justin Roberts

*sigh* Goddamnit, Adam.

loolllllll

ITS BLAMPIED O'CLOCK MOTHER FUCKERS!

OMG I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT GET IN THERE

BLAMED MOUNTAIN, BESIDE THAT MOUNTAIN IS A LAW SCHOOL, BESIDE THAT YOU'LL FIND COLE STARING AT A WALL. JOIN HIM!!!

you stole my comment -_-

I can't lie, I thought the same. It seemed so unlikely that The New Day would last this long, but they somehow did it, and even have their own cereal line, now. I guess it's just their charisma.

Dexter Morgan Their initial gimmick of wholesome happy babyfaces DID fail immediately. That's why they changed it up to the obnoxious meme-sporting troll squad we all know now. And THAT works because people love obnoxious crap all the time. Look at all the most popular Vines and social media bits and it's not hard to understand that New Day's current gimmick was destined to be over.

Thomas Muller g The difference between Kane and The Undertaker is that Undertaker came with a brand new gimmick never seen before, so if Undertaker never used his deadman persona gimmick Kane wouldnt be the Kane we know probably a huge guy like Big Show

Let's not forget, during the whole last outlaw (attitude era star) it wasn't just Kane that got overlooked, Chris Jericho had to be in the background going "ummmm... I'm still here... And most of the time I work full time... You guys don't do a dozen matches a year between the three of you."

Fun fact: When Mark Callaway debuted in the WWF as the Undertaker, his full name was to be Kane the Undertaker.

PiplupTCG savage

Savage

PiplupTCG What is wrong with whatculture extra?

That's savage... Randy Savage!!!

How dare they make money doing what they love! THE INHUMAN MONSTERS!

Jarron House me

Greeney why not

Jarron House it's stupid, I like that he never breaks kayfabe in interviews but the whole character is stupid and that shitty final deletion you can just tell that the TNA creative thought "well clips instead of segments works in lucha underground how about we do that but with an actual match?"

It's unpredictable, and people like to be surprised. Wrestling today is rarely full of things to talk about, except "X has returned for the next PPV get hype!"

I hate broken Matt hardy with a vengeance

Ty Dia my thought

Hurricane was awesome

Bima Setyawan It's funny that they mention Broken Matt Hardy when he obviously copied his gimmick from Bray Wyatt (typical TNA).

I don't see it. If that's the case, then Wyatt ripped off Waylon Mercy. Broken Matt Hardy appears to be inspired by the Game of Thrones meets The Room. I don't care much for TNA but his whole schtick is better than anything McMahon has put out in years. Notice WWE ripped it off with the New Day visiting the Wyatt compound?

You are new here?Waylon was come up with the gimmick to Rotunda at development territory and He liked it so He take it.

LatinGuido817 U must be DELETED yeeeeaaasshhh

They wouldn't change it, but Vince certainly wouldn't let Matt have the level of creative control over the gimmick that he has in TNA.

King Kaiju it's brilliant but cant work in the E

TNA's funniest stuff has come when they let guys riff. Kevin Nash did killer stuff in TNA when they let his natural sense of humor shine through, especially in the paparazzi videos with Alex Shelley and company. At first I thought Broken Matt was dumb as hell but damn it's become the most fun I've had watching wrestling in some time.

Its probably that its the first character who isn't held back ... full control over what he does and it's all thought out and not pushed to places that are weird but they all have a reason and aren't forced.

Socko

If WWE2K whatever had that gameplay and creation engine, I'd actually buy the next one.

BREAK IT

Dee Gee IS COOKIN'

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! UNH!!

Seth Rollins no

Seth Rollins Martin Kirby

I thought new day was going to be on the list. Guys who were face then turned heel. Guys who dance and twerk. But then turn face and buttios happen.

ha

Alex Smith didn't they come in as heels then turn face?

To be fair, if I'd just managed to sign Broken Matt Hardy up for an appearance at my little indie wrestling show I probably wouldn't shut up about it either.

McGovP hey man if you owned a wrestling show you would want to get it over now won't you?

Steve of the Dead, so would I except by Adam's own admission, he didn't like Broken Matt Hardy. All of a sudden, they have him and he's Hardy's biggest fan. I'm rapidly becoming disillusioned with the WCPW shit. I thought it was a great idea when they first announced it and when they made their own WCPW channel, I was really happy because I thought that would be the channel where all of their plugging and WCPW related content would be. How wrong was I. Joe Hendry's entrances are the best part of WCPW and even they were better in ICW.

Being a wrestling promoter has been Adam's dream since he was knee-high to Hornswoggle. You'd be doing the same. It's okay to not like it but don't shit on people for doing WHAT YOU WOULD DO IN THEIR POSITION

You know absolutely nothing about me.

I want to check out Kane's book.

fran cisco ... you’re kidding right?

King Ross is who he is. It's the 'Ross' character that isn't clicking with fans

+espurious What are you talking about? Watch the pre-show podcasts mate. Ross and King Ross are both two completely different people, remember?

Jake Frazier That's what he wants you to believe. It's the story of Augustus Caesar all over again. The great Emperor who disguised himself as a beggar

Yeah that's true, a king seemed ridiculous but every week he was getting funnier and funnier and now we have JOHN O'CLOCK

The Charizard Network "what does everybody want?!"

Stephen Robinson unfortunately reporting them for spam doesn't do a thing.

im first..... to say , im early .....let me make a joke for the ..... last time.

Stephen Robinson The last time I was this first the blue meanie was beaten up by the yetay for real while New jack beat up a senior citizen in Daniel puder's pants.

I think the word "early" has been fucking ruined for me by essentially everyone on KZfaq

John Bradshaw Layfield brilliant

...Thank you Adam

TuT Rackaveli Not only should Taker be #1 on this list, but given a the powers named, he also should have never lost at WrestleMania....or anywhere else.

Jeff Anderson well...

It's the Big Show?

Undertaker started his WWF career losing most of his matches at House Shows and PPVs, so it was only a matter of time before he lost at Wrestlemania as well.

I also wanna know

Which one? The new day one?

GoldNinja Vlogspot lol

ErtyHD it a new day, it a new generation

I think it'scalled 'It's a new day'

False

It has grown on me over time personally.

Riktenkay sounds a bit weak or soft in my view- or gimpy as I first said 😂

sounds like "that one" song u always skipped in the SvR games..

They're basically the same guy.

No...one's a ring announcer and the other is a commentator/interviewer.