My Twitter home this week is Motherfoclóir: Dane twitter.com/Motherfocloir Darach Ó Séaghdha's Twitter is the Irish for twitter.com/theirishfor Buy Darach's book Motherfoclóir amzn.to/3ggaRB9 Buy Darach's other book Craic Baby amzn.to/2EaOIHd Support me on Patreon here www.patreon.com/learnirishwithdane Check out my other video on Irish and Scottish Gaelic kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7uKZ5R_m9Gyk4k.html And my apologies as I may have got the Welsh word for present wrong!

Ah! Da iawn, Dane! Your Welsh pronunciation was really good 👏🏻 Welsh grammar is almost identical to Irish grammar, even down to the lenition and eclipses (we have 3 types tho! Soft, nasal and aspirate). Now I'm learning Irish I keep finding words that are similar. More examples are ty for house, ymolchi is to wash, I think seomra folctha reminds me of that. Also, dog is cu. Isn't the word for hound something like cú in old Irish? I was hoping you'd do this after your Scottish gaelic video last time. Diolch yn fawr! Go raibh maith agat!

Glâs is the colour of the sea - blue-green-grey, Welsh also has 'gwyrdd' for green and 'llwyd' for grey, so 'glas' is mostly used for blue.

Thankyou, I enjoyed seeing that although our celtic languages history may have diverged, it's good to see some similarities. Diolch yn fawr!

Asal is Irish for "donkey"? The German word is Esel and the Russian word is Осел (read "asel"). And the Welsh word "Asyn" sorta reminds of the word "asinine", which etymologically comes from donkeys (or asses). And the Latin word is indeed "Asinus".

Your Irish pronunctiation was spot-on! My Irish teacher would be proud!

I am half Irish, born and raised in Wales with a mainly Welsh background (Welsh speaker) as well as some Scottish and even a little English ancestry - a mongrel, I am! Through researching family history and DNA, it struck me that in genealogical terms, I am more Irish than anything else and it sparked more interest in this half of my heritage. I also watched your other video comparing Scottish and Irish Gaelic. My maternal grandfather was from Donegal, so the 'bridge' of the Ulster dialect to Scottish Gaelic is also fascinating. Looking forward to this series to help me learn more about my 'missing' heritage!

*Glas* is an interesting one in Welsh. It’s one of those colour spectrum words that differ from language to language. As you said, it technically means blue but it can also mean green, not only in glaswellt (green grass) but also in words like glaslanc (a green boy i.e a young man, immature, still green). When the trees green up in spring we say “Mae’r coed yn *glasu”* - the trees are greening. There was no original word for green. Modern ‘gwyrdd’ was borrowed from Latin ‘viridis’. Glas can also mean grey. ‘March glas’ means a ‘grey horse’ Welsh also has no native word for ‘brown’ - this colour is covered by other words e.g Siwgwr coch = brown sugar (red sugar) Papur llwyd = brown paper (grey paper) These are dated now but my grandparents used those colours to describe brown sugar and brown paper.

One thing omitted is "uaine", which is also green, but is distinct from "glas", which veers more towards the blue side of things, whereas "uaine" is the colour of grass, the sea, dyes, and is closer to yellow and olive.

Anrheg is the Welsh equivalent for bronntanas. Yn bresennol describes the physical state of being present.

Congratulation on your new position,and the new video!!!!!!!.

Hi, I would like to add another word: The welsh word ‘pêl’ (ball) is very similar to the Irish word ‘peil’ ( football) Watching this video I noticed that the word for squirrel in Welsh is very similar to the polish one: Welsh: Wiwer Polish: wiewiórka

My ethnic background from my dad's side is Irish, Scottish, and Welsh, but I don't know any of the languages, so seeing this is very cool. What I like is how the word for donkey in both languages starts with "as" while the English word ass is another term for donkey.

So Korean, Japanese and Welsh have something in common. The word for blue also can mean green in all three of those languages 🤯

Very nice, thank you 💚

Great video! Cariad from the mountains of Snowdonia x

An interesting video but there is a wee mistake in the meaning of Presennol - it doesn't mean 'Bronntanas' as is a gift, it means present as in you are in the room when the register is called! The Welsh for the gift would be 'Anrheg'. Also note that the 'B' in 'yn bresennol' is because the 'yn' (Irish 'i' and Scotish Gaelic' 'ann') caused a mutation.

Thank you for making this video. I started using an app to learn Irish only to realise a week in that I had accidentally selected Welsh instead. So I switched it to Irish and I don't know if its the lessons (the Irish lessons started with pronouns and the Welsh lessons started with greetings - so maybe it was just that) but I was shocked at, for me, how much easier Welsh had been than Irish. So, I decided I'm going to do both.

Tá sé seo iontach! | Mae hyn yn wych! The way my wife says MAWR is more like MOWR which is a bit of a midway. Well, she is from Porthmadog which is essentially Ireland anyway to us Wrecsam folk 😂

There are a couple of thousand cognates between Welsh and Irish from proto-Celtic. Naturally words referring to more 'modern' technology, such as windows and writing almost certainly derive from Latin.

Here, I'll give you a "tums up"! Great video, will be back for more.

Da iawn on your welsh pronunciation - wasn't too bad ;) I enjoyed the video. 'Cam' is another word I learned recently as in 'Cawmish'. In Welsh, 'cam'= crooked, wry, wrong.

An-suimiuil! It is nice to hear of any similarities between the cultures and the languages of the Celtic peoples. I also love reading the mythologies and early histories of Wales, and comparing them to the great mythological and historical traditions of Ireland. Even though my own family connections are all with Ireland, I think of the Welsh as something like distant cousins. Perhaps I will live long enough to learn Welsh someday as well. Ach an ceann chead: ag foghlaim Gaeilge. Ta se obair lan ar feadh anois.

Diolch yn fawr! Celtaidd am Byth!

Love this!

Thanks for the interesting comparisons. I find that the orthographies of the two languages are a bit of an obstacle to the light going on - I find it difficult to figure out how to pronounce Irish words, and I suppose it works the other way too! When I visit Dublin I’m fascinated by the automated announcements on the DART, Luas, and buses so I can compare spoken and written place names - “Carraig Dubh, Blackrock, oh yes, Carreg Du of course”. “Margadh na Feirme / Smithfield? Marchnad y Ffermwyr / Farmers’ market?”.

Diddorol iawn - very interesting. Thank you. Diolch.

Éan/bird is another word that is the same. The Irish for a hurley camán is the Welsh word for a Bill Hook, now the original Hurleys would have been shaped more like a bill hook than the modern hurley, so therefore I think the word refers more to the shape of the implement rather than the implement itself. There are also many more examples Ar/on & o/from included.

Is brea liom MotherFoclóir. Maith thú, Dane!

I thought that "bronntanas" meant "present" in the sense of "gift", whereas "b/presennol" in Welsh means rather present in the sense of "from now"., or "here, in the place".

The Welsh word for squirrel caught me off guard because its eerily similar to Polish. In polish its "Wiewiórka". Do you know if theres any connection there? Thought it was just an interesting detail.

Interesting, my ex partner is from Ireland she doesn’t speak Irish but her English is very intriguing, for example she says “I’m after 5 pints of Guinness,” when I first heard her say this it was in a pub and I was surprised that having already consumed 5 pints she wanted 5 more. I learnt that this was Irish English meaning she had already drunk 5 pints, ie I am literally after (temporally) 5 pints. That manner of past tense is almost a literal translation of the Welsh past perfect tense ‘dw’I (I’m) wedi (after) bwyta (drinking) 5 pints). The gerund ‘drinking’ was missing on that occasion but present in others eg “I’m after going to the shop already today.’ She is from Cork and I wonder if this is common all over Ireland? It would seem after English was imposed on the Irish, characteristics of Celtic grammar and word order were passed on to English as it’s spoken in Ireland creating a unique Irish dialect of English. I’d be interested to know your thoughts on this. Diolch am byth!

It's a bit strange because Belarusian for Squirrel is Vaviorka and for donkey it's Asiol. How did that happen

Thank you so much for your videos. I have a suggestion. Could you remake the first videos on your channel in the begining? The audio-quality in your first videos is not very good and it would affect the effectiveness of new learners. Thank you so much.

Little known trivia - during WWII, English POW's in Germany learned that the Germans had studied and learned nearly every major and minor language spoken/written in Europe... especially, of course, English... but the Germans had overlooked Welsh... it had nothing common with the Germanic languages and was frightfully difficult to learn and speak... so English officers assigned Welsh POW's to go about relaying covert information by singing in Welsh around the camp... (The Welsh are well known for being a singing loving people...) this info would be translated into slang English (think Cockney...) and the unsuspecting Germans never had a clue that military information was being spread about under their very noses...

A Welsh friend of mine taught me how to bless myself in Welsh... Mab is like Mac, son and Glan in Irish is clean, in Welsh is Holy. Not too dissimilar.

Interesting that Goidelic and Brythonic were probably not mutually comprehensible even in St. Patrick’s day given the sound changes.

It is interesting the the archaic word for grass colour Welsh is considered blue becuase in Vietnamese blue and green are not separate colours, more like sea blue or leaf blue. This blue-green distinction or lack is a common them in languages, the way we think of color a lot of the time is codified in language. Orange does have to be though of a separate color but a hue, pink, etc.

this is good - and your Welsh pronunciation is good too! These words are similar because of the Celtic relation and not Latin (except wiwer, it's really gwiwer but because people tend to say 'the squirrel' there's a mutation and the g is dropped. Gwiwer is cognate with Latin word, viverra - many words in Latin which start with v change to start with g in Welsh - gwir (verus - truth); gwydr (vitrum - glass). But other words are Celtic. The word for pig, mochyn is very similar, in fact the -yn ending in Welsh is a diminutive, so, 'moch' was the original word, then, for some reason that became the plural and the -yn was added then to make the singular! Maybe one big difference between Welsh and Irish words and grammar is the Latin influence. Brythonic (ancient Welsh) was spoken across whole of Wales, England and southern Scotland before and at the time of the Roman invasion. Over 400 years many Latin words were adopted (and one guesses, replaced original Celtic Brythonic words, as Engish is now) or were use for slightly different nuance. So, arm in Welsh is 'braich' which is from Latin bracchuim, but Welsh for hand is 'llaw' which is cognate with Irish 'lamh' (arm) I believe. Welsh speakers are unaware of how many Welsh nouns for common everyday words are in fact of Latin origin - words which Brythonic must have had before the Romans arrived and which cognates probably still exist in Irish. These are everyday words which makes me ask if the Romans had stayed in Britain for another century then Welsh today would be a Romance language with a Celtic substratum and some Celtic words? The effect on Latin was also to simplify some elements of Brythonic as it changed into Welsh. Maybe the disruption of society and authority lead to the disruption of the spoken language with the fall of Rome. So, the three gender cases in Welsh (masc, fem, neuter) were streamlined to two (masc, fem), word endings dropped (which may account for the confusion then with words like 'moch'/'mochyn' - *moccus in Celtic - above, but it seems mutations (lenition in Irish) was used to show distinction of what were masculine and what were feminine words (femine words mutate), the genitive case was dropped and other changes. Because Ireland wasn't under Roman rule and then disruption the language kept the Celtic words and many features which Welsh lost.

In Slavic languages donkey is also osal, osol, osel. Squirrel is veverka, veverica, viver(ica)

Would some of those words be more similar to the Scots Gaelic words? The words for big, small and cow seems closer to their pronunciations in Scots Gaelic . . . .

here are some equivalents in Breton : pigs : moc'h (plural). Our (c'h) is equivalent to the Welsh (ch), because (ch) in Breton is used for the sound /sh/, like in French. "moch" is also a plural in Welsh, "mochyn" being the singular. donkey : azen (from Latin) cow : buoc'h squirrel : gwiñver. (ñ) indicates that the vowel before is nasalized. (ñv) often corresponds to (mh) in Irish. black : du big : bras. "meur" is also attested but it is archaic. It is found in place names (Lanmeur, Plomeur, Tremeur...) and in family names (le Meur, Coetmeur...). "meur a" (+ singular) means "many, a lot of". meur a vuoc'h = many cows. "bras" means "fat, coarse" in Welsh. green / blue : glas. (the colour of the grass, and the colour of the sky). small : bihan ("bychan" is also attested in Welsh).

Dia dhuit! Go raibh maith agat as do físeáin. Táim fós ag foghlaim Gaeilge. Don an focal "beach", nach mbeadh sé a lahbairt mar "behg (as bearla)", ní "byoag"? Hi sorry, I'm still learning just in case I butchered that lol. Basically, what I'm trying to ask is for the word "beach", it looks like it would be pronounced "behg" from my current understanding of Munster pronunciation. What makes it be pronounced as "byoag"? Thanks!

I speak polish and the Word for squirell in polish is (Wiewiórka) and the welsh word for squirell is (Wiwer)

Diolch / Thanks for that..a great intro to the the subject. I know Cymraeg/Gaelige have lots in common but not obvious to the ordinary Welsh/Irish speaker, and needs an expert to go explain. if you could do more detailed videos showing how grammar and structures are simliar it would be great! Diolch eto!!!

I’m learning Welsh so I’m not an authority but I believe the Welsh word glas once meant green but over time it has changed to mean blue. Maybe there was some collective colourblindness at some point in history….too much Cwrw perhaps. As you say, Glas forms part of the Welsh for grass. ‘Glaswellt’ is the full name which I believe means blue hair. Gwallt is hair but as Welsh has mutations in a similar way to Irish does I suspect the g is being dropped. I can’t explain why it is glaswellt instead if glaswallt though. Keep up the channel. I’m really enjoying the bits I catch. Makes me wonder why I never tried to learn Irish when I was working there for about 5 years.

Céann vs pen, just to get in the Q and P mood?

Good attempt with the pronunciation :) go deas. Green yn Cymraeg is gwerth, glas as referring to the colour of grass is archaic now. It confuses me between the two languages and remembering which is which!

My favourite Welsh phrase is "Dw i'n hoffi coffi", meaning "I like coffee".

Taineas - Fire

Irish word for donkey is asal. Interestingly in German we have "Esel".

I've never heard the word glas meaning green, gwyrdd is usually used instead. Glaswellt means grass if that's what you mean.

Welsh had a lot in common with Cumbric a now extinct Celtic language spoken in northern England and southern Scotland.Possibly with Pictish too but nobody seems to know for sure if Pictish was closer to Irish/Scots Gaelic or to Welsh/Cumbric.

For years I naively assumed Irish Gaelic and Welsh were on the same linguistic wavelength like Spanish & Portuguese are or the Nordic languages (excluding Finnish).....bar a handful of similar sounding words, they're in completely different universes...Scot Gaelic has some overlap with Irish while Welsh is more intelligible with Breton and Cornish....

Carrick/carreg ..(stone) is another similar word.

Compare Welsh Wiwor for Squirrel and Polish Wiewiorka.

Good video ..the Welsh for green is gwyrdd

Friend learn irish hello, do you know channels here on KZfaq thát teach modern, old and protoceltic for us today no speakers of any celtic language??

Donkey in italian is: asino 😯 , and cow 🐮 or better, ox is: bue 🐂

We tend to go with gwyrdd for green. Ond da iawn i ti am hwn! Mae’n neis i weld pobl siarad Cymraeg. Diolch!

I gave it me tums up 😉

But some words are exact opposites such as “gach” & “gan” - gach is “with” as Gaeilge ach “without” yn Gymraeg & “gan” is “without” as Gaeilge ach “with” yn Gymraeg.

The welsh word for donkey "asyn" is very similar to Latin "asinus", Italian "asino". The Irish word is somehow less similar.

"The Welsh are the Irish who couldn't swim." Dafydd Wigley, President of Plaid Cymru. People have asked me this same question. I will say Irish is to Welsh like English is to Swedish. Your example of "pig" misses that "mochyn" is the singular and "moch" is the plural, more similar to the Irish singular. I used to play in a Celtic folk band called "Moch Pryderi" (Pryderi's Pigs, from a tale in the Mabinogion).

squirrel is the most different in the two languages

Ah that’s great. Well sorry folks but I liked Dane before he became famous.

Dia duit. Bó - dúdhonn ( the cow is dark brown ). Is my sentence probably correct? Go raibh maith agat.

Many of the Words sounds like pokemon names🤓👍🏻

F in Scottish Gaelic equates to gw in welsh. Falt/gwallt hair of the head. Fion/gwin wine. Fir/gwr man. Blinea/blwyddyn year. Cu/ci dog. Craig/carreg rock. Con/cwn dogs. Math/mad good. Balach/bachgen boy. Mac/mab son. Dionnea/dynion people/men. I/hi she. E/e he. Tha i math/Mae hi da she is good. Lamb/llaw hand. Ben/pen head. Clus/clust ear. Sron/trwn nose. Excuse spelling mistakes.

Excuse me, was there ever a time when manuals of Irish (Old, Middle or Modern) were presented as Celtic rather than Irish? I think of the scene in Brideshead Revisited where one man considers he knows the "three Classic languages". "Three?" "Yes, Latin, Greek and Celtic" Obviously, he means the language of Catholic Irishmen, not of Baptists in Wales, so "Celtic" means Irish in the context.

Gonna guess that the similarities for the word for "donkey" are based on a common origin in the Latin "asinus". Which is also the source of the English "ass". So really, the question is, where in the world does "donkey" come from?

Gwych iawn.

Welsh and Gaelic , of all forms, have been separated for over 2500 years. As such they are more different from each other than are English from any other Germanic language.

Our language is cymru

Da lawn

Celtic languages are unusual, in the sense you do not see many cognates with words in other branches of Indoeuropean languages

The grammar is the only thing that is almost indentical

Glas in Welsh is pronounced glass

Welsh word for ship is LLONG in Irish I think is LONG and land of TIR in Irish it's TIR.

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Never Seen 'glas' as green, we usually say gwyrdd

That grass thing is wronf

yn bresennol = i láthair / bronntanas = anrheg

Da iawn.

Diolch yn fawr. Diddorel iawn. Marianne yn Y Fenni

I would presume that Latin has had a bigger influence on Welsh than Irish because the Romans never got to the island of Ireland?

Poor fellow must be suffering indigestion. He's asking for Tums at the end of the video.

In donegal, dubh is doo

maith thú

The Welsh word for church is Eglwys - Irish is Eglais

An irish speaker can understand a welsh speaker?