10 Month Dino Update & Experiment

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Reefahholic

Reefahholic

Жыл бұрын

If you’re struggling with Dino’s (especially Ostreopsis) create the most optimal environment for success. Reduce all the Dino fuel. 😈
1st: ID your Species if possible
2nd: Deploy GAC (if Toxic Species)
Next, Establish Control!
*No Aminos
*No Coral Food
*No Vitamins
*No Liqui-Mud
*Hold Iron Dosing (Subjective)
*No WC’s
*Dose Phyto
*Add Pods
*Add AF Life Source Mud (Subjective)
*Create Stability
*Run a PowerFilter (If applicable)
*Run UV (If applicable)
*Reduce Photo period
*Reduce Peak period
*Reduce White, Red, and Green
(Or turn off completely)
*Minimally Feed Fish
*Carbon dosing can help (Subjective)
*100:1 Ratio (N: 15-20) (P: 0.15-0.2+)
*Dose simple Orthophosphates
(Avoid rich organics)
*Silicate Correction or Induce Diatom
Bloom [2-3 ppm ] (If applicable) [FYI-
If dosing Silicates, Water Glass will
promote or fuel this species
temporarily while you’re dosing)
• Creating a Sodium Sili...
*Correct the Chemistry (Helps entire
Microbial Community)
*Add quality LR if possible
*Don’t siphon the rocks, only blow
them off. (Dino’s multiply to rapidly.
Siphoning removes beneficial
competitors.)
Avoid DINO X.
This was the first time I’ve had Dino’s, so it took me some time to understand them. IMO, removing their fuel is step one. You have to do this in order to gain control. Even with control they linger especially in a dry rock tank with a weak biome. So don’t get frustrated. Know the battle will be long and slow. Don’t give up!
I purposely created a very weak biome initially trying to keep Vermetid snails and other pests out. That’s always been a goal of mine. Was it worth it? Yes and No. After 10 months I have yet to see even one! Honestly, its not really worth the trouble and headache.
If you get Dino’s like I did…Dino’s are among the most devastating pests in our hobby, and some species are very toxic including the species currently in my system. They paralyze your CUC, and different algae species will start to take control. This also gives the Dino's excellent hiding spots, and makes it more difficult to control them.
Edit: Follow the list above. That is how I beat this species. I really feel that reducing the organics and running the Powerfilter + UV was what put the nail in the coffin. Although I had been shifting the balance in my favor for a while. Before they faded out, I noticed they become bright red and were grouping extremely tight. The biodiversity walls were closing in on them, and it was apparent they were fixing to loose the battle. I underestimate nobody....and these guys put up an extremely difficult fight. Glad I smoked them in the end.

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@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
I’ll send $100 to anybody that can spot one Vermetid snail in there at 10 months! 😉
@michaeljetten
@michaeljetten Жыл бұрын
4;45 seconds in there's one.
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
@@michaeljetten haha! Nope! Not even one in the entire tank. 💯
@akvaristugur9479
@akvaristugur9479 Жыл бұрын
nice sharing relaxing
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
👍🏼💯
@Reefkpr1
@Reefkpr1 Жыл бұрын
Damn she throwing everything at you. Dino's, GHA, Cyano, Bryopsis. Way to stay in the fight. Looks like you're winning!
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
Truth! To think I cured the rock for 1 year and this was gonna be the “best reef” ever. 😅 Quite the opposite! I’d cut a leg off to know why that rock started binding all the Phosphate 6-7 weeks in. It’s typically much higher nutrients at that time. The rock was literally outcompeting the Acro’s. All the algae came from me trying to desperately saturate the rock rock before it killed all the corals. Was not happening with TSP. That stuff is complete garbage for higher volume dosing. After I switched to a more organic source the tank and Acro’s started to uptake and turn around. I just went and looked at the last tank log, and at same time the PO4 was 0.40 ppm. Very different. But yeah, thx Phil! Time for an update on Mattie’s Reef! 👍🏼💯
@PnCBio
@PnCBio Жыл бұрын
Best reefing video of the year. ❤
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
Best disaster! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Thx for the kind words. 💯
@PnCBio
@PnCBio Жыл бұрын
@@Reefahholic you’ve recorded the worst of the worst. It’ll help innumerable people the first time they meet true evil 😈
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
@@PnCBio you aren’t kidding. I had to go to war! My nutrients were stable for the first 5 weeks and pretty much right on target. When I saw the PO4 start diving I knew it was about to go south, because that never happens that early. Typically my new dry rock systems will have moderate to high nutrients in the beginning for about 4-6 months, and then slowly start dropping off. At that point I start to dose up. Usually just a small PO4 correction is needed. The nitrate is normally the one that needs more attention. This rock is acting extremely weird to say the least. It started to bind the PO4 so hard, that it was outcompeting the Acro’s. The poor quality Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) was not able to keep up. TSP is garbage when it comes to bioavailability. The corals we’re struggling to uptake it even with very frequent dosing. Once I switched to a superior form of organic phosphate I was able to support the Acro’s enough to keep them alive while “somewhat” minimizing the binding from the rock. If you look at the Vivid Confetti that RTN’ed early in the video, you can see how “Green” the Skelton was underneath the tissue. That was because I was dosing Spirulina Powder also (prior to the switch) to try to compensate for the lack of PO4. I could see what was coming. However, it still wasn’t enough. Had I switched to the organic PO4 earlier it would have saved the Vivid Confetti and a Rare beautiful Smurfette Millie. Oh well. I’ll get them back soon. So yeah, the tank is doing much better now and I hope to be selling coral again in about 8 months to compensate for this crazy inflation. 🙂
@steevareno2002
@steevareno2002 Жыл бұрын
Great information. Can be a tough hobby!
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
Thx. Truth! 😉
@garrycole9187
@garrycole9187 Жыл бұрын
What do you think created the environment for the dinos? Most new tanks have plenty of PO4 and NO3. My first 6 mos was like .08-.14 PO4 but like 30+ NO3 till finally it drop at the 8th month mark. I had a dino outbreak in both of my tanks just as I started the shine program. In both, I dosed phyto, + MB7 + UV, adjusted my lights to 10% of normal and the final straw that killed them off was 5 days of dosing hydrogen peroxide. After 2-3 weeks, they were gone in both tanks. I did that a couple of years back and worked then also. The key I think is to recognize it right away and I never had any cyano with it. Awesome experiment, thanks!
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
The Marco dry rock tanks I’ve had in the past have done exactly what you described. Usually have higher nutrients and then drop off later. This tank was the complete opposite. I’m not sure if it was the 1 yr cure with multiple species of bacteria that did it or something else. There’s speculation that the guy I got my rock from pressure washes it. No telling if he did something else to it. He pulls from the same rock quarry as Marco Rocks. It’s the typical white Marco Rock out of the FL rock quarries. I also have true Marco Shelf in there. IDK, I think maybe it starved in the brute can while I was getting hammered by Covid surges. I basically didn’t take care of the rock at that time for about six months. Initially I treated it like a reef tank in the brute. Dosed the Bacteria, N&P, Added live sand, etc. definitely a unique tank to say the least. I also had a Fluconazole overdose about a month ago. Almost nuked the entire system. Not sure if you saw that. Same company, same medication I used 2 years ago, but completely different result. Starting to think this tank is cursed! Nah, I think it’s gonna come around now. Just a few more months and we should be good. It’s been a jacked up 10 months! I’m ready for some cruz control for a little bit.
@garrycole9187
@garrycole9187 Жыл бұрын
@@Reefahholic , yeah I saw the fluconazole issue you had. That was odd too, I used it a couple of time before and it took care of the bryopsis after usually one treatment. I did get a hint of dino a couple of years back when I did it. It might drive down the nutrients to get rid of the bryopsis. I dose some neo nitro and neo phos and it came back to normal. Beautiful tank though, hope it gets to that cruz control for you.
@inventoryking
@inventoryking Жыл бұрын
You are using the power filter to catch the suspended dinos after blowing it off the rocks and tank?
@Reefahholic
@Reefahholic Жыл бұрын
Actually, I’m not really sure what it’s doing. I think it’s just pulling the organics out of the water and starving them out. I’ve limited all their fuel so much and maybe that is the final straw. It could be catching some too. Wish I knew for sure. Cyano it catches if you blow and suspend it. Definitely works well for that.
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