10 Most Overrated Guns

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Cult classics that don't live up to the hype. A detailed look at the 10 most overrated firearms.
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@Kino_1988
@Kino_1988 2 ай бұрын
Me who owns no guns: Mmmm, yes 🤔
@FyukYiu
@FyukYiu 2 ай бұрын
None of us own guns. Guns are bad.
@drewbondy9414
@drewbondy9414 2 ай бұрын
Why no guns 😭
@F30__Zay
@F30__Zay 2 ай бұрын
Yes , I must know why not ? Do you live in a non free place ?
@ANATURALDREWSASTER
@ANATURALDREWSASTER 2 ай бұрын
Kind of, there are varying degrees of freedom depending on location. I can’t reasonably own a machine gun for example.
@SouLerKunG
@SouLerKunG 2 ай бұрын
Me too, It costs me up to 5x of MSRP. Such as a glock 17 G5 it costs me $2,400. But the shotgun price is around MSRP a bit more but not dramaticly like a pistol. I don't know WTF is going on here. ps.I'm living in Thailand.
@frankstabler1920
@frankstabler1920 8 ай бұрын
I owned a SPAS 12 for over twenty years and just sold it recently. I never found it to be unreliable, but it is extremely hard to reload quickly and is very heavy.
@ProtossExecutor100
@ProtossExecutor100 8 ай бұрын
Was looking to get one if the opportunity came up. What's your recommendation?
@daegnaxqelil2733
@daegnaxqelil2733 8 ай бұрын
someone doesn't get enough muscles... Shame for a nice looking rifle and don't bother to reply me
@Enraged-Gecko
@Enraged-Gecko 8 ай бұрын
@@ProtossExecutor100The Benelli M4 Super 90 can do everything the Franchi SPAS-12 better, at a fraction of the expense and weight. Replacement parts are easily obtainable and there’s robust aftermarket support. By every metric, the Benelli is a far better choice.
@rickdeckard1075
@rickdeckard1075 8 ай бұрын
SPAS was mainly a breaching tool, not really meant for continued CQB
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 8 ай бұрын
@@daegnaxqelil2733 I lack the muscles to be bothered anyway.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 3 ай бұрын
At 6:25 you mention the modern recreations being, "extremely unreliable". Agreed. I have owned two and they both functioned very poorly. Terrible guns.
@FatBoy42069
@FatBoy42069 26 күн бұрын
The sear on mine stripped out on first disassembly and auto ordnance refused to honour their warranty. So I’ve been stuck with broken have crap heap for like 10 years now.
@daegnaxqelil2733
@daegnaxqelil2733 22 күн бұрын
typical angry american.
@Derbearltd
@Derbearltd 15 күн бұрын
Hi Paul!!!
@thomasneal9291
@thomasneal9291 7 ай бұрын
I had a buddy who had an in with the local cops where I used to live, and we spent a LOT of time on the police pistol range, firing a wide range of light to heavy pistols. of all the pistols I tried, I found the most comfortable and accurate for me to be the old 38 special. Surprised me, given the short barrel, but it is a very comfortable gun to use.
@RedHuntsman
@RedHuntsman 8 ай бұрын
The P90 only makes sense in its original select fire short barrel configuration for use by non front line troops. It is lightweight, compact and holds lots of rounds.
@qjaq2203
@qjaq2203 8 ай бұрын
100%, it’s a pdw, should only be used as pdw. Niche gun.
@andreasmuller4666
@andreasmuller4666 8 ай бұрын
In it´s itended, original shape, it´s a very practical and reliable weapon. The abomination that is the PS90, well, that thing was bound to suck.
@gunengineering1338
@gunengineering1338 8 ай бұрын
The ergonomics on the P90 are some of the worst i've ever seen If not the worst. And the cartridge it fires is basically just a demasculated 7.62 tokarev. IMO the p90 deserves to higher on the list than it is.
@claytonware7540
@claytonware7540 8 ай бұрын
@@gunengineering13385.7x28 is far more accurate, more accurate at long range, far better penetration, and has less recoil (obviously), and allows a higher mag capacity than 7.62 tokarev.
@HelghastStalker
@HelghastStalker 8 ай бұрын
@@gunengineering1338 The P90 was designed for a very specific use, giving rear-echelon troops a PDW with a bullet that could (not) penetrate the armor that NATO believed VDV troops used. I guess they never considered that if said rear-echelon troops engaged the VDV, that dinky little bullet would have been useless against the 6B5/6B3 vests, and they'd be engaging elite troops with real weapons.
@alphahotel3446
@alphahotel3446 8 ай бұрын
I remember reading Mark Owen's book where he talked about the weapons he carried during his deployments and i remember him talking about the MP7 saying that it was great for compactness, but that it sucked for actually shooting people with.
@jason200912
@jason200912 8 ай бұрын
Micro uzi pro is even more compact
@coolsenjoyer
@coolsenjoyer 8 ай бұрын
Almost like it's a gun designed to be carried by people who aren't supposed to be getting into firefights
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 8 ай бұрын
In a german 1930 Radio Interview a german Stoßtrupp Leader of wwl one was asked about combat pistol Shooting. He answered: If you shoot the enemy rightly, he falls down.
@alphahotel3446
@alphahotel3446 8 ай бұрын
@@coolsenjoyer yeah, it seems like that's always how it starts then you start seeing more M1 carbines (another weapon never designed to be an infantry weapon) show up in infantry units in WW2/Korea. Another example is the CAR-15/M4 carbine being designed for officers and support units then ending up being a standard shoulder arm.
@SaftonYT
@SaftonYT 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's the general consensus I've seen from the SMUs. It's ideal for niches like VBSS or PSD work (though things like the LVAW have started encroaching on it). One guy said there was a noticeable lack of terminal performance with the 4.6 compared to rifle rounds, but the volume-of-fire you could manage given the MP7's low recoil and high capacity held compensate for this shortcoming to some degree.
@kevinfoster1138
@kevinfoster1138 7 ай бұрын
My oldest son was 10 or 11 the first time he shot my Mossberg 12g pistol grip. First shot knocked him back 2 steps he looked at me with the biggest smile I've ever seen on his face. So he leaned into it and dumped the tube as fast as he could. I was so proud of him!!!!!
@stupidhead9117
@stupidhead9117 3 ай бұрын
Wow. He’s f*cked for life already. Well done champ.
@richmcintyre1178
@richmcintyre1178 2 ай бұрын
My oldest son was the same way. His OMG gun as a child was the 357 Magnum. He is 49 now and STILL talks about the first time he shot it. He now has most of my guns, but not THAT one LOL, he'll have to wait a while yet.
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 Ай бұрын
that stock hard rubber grip isn't very comfortable to shoot....try a soft rubber replacement grip...makes a world of difference..
@michaelcavanaugh2708
@michaelcavanaugh2708 3 ай бұрын
Sgt. Saunders would disagree about the THOMPSON. His Thompson NEVER ran out of AMMO. And he Never needed to put a fresh mag in it .
@dman2007
@dman2007 8 ай бұрын
The caulk gun, supposed to do work but does a sloppy job and I have to clean it after every use....
@LethalMayo
@LethalMayo 8 ай бұрын
Its really more about the cut of the tube and the finger. You only put what you need in the crack and apply light pressure with your finger tips. But yes the caulk gun is also pretty over rated.
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 8 ай бұрын
Also, some caulk guns are dripless, and do actually stop pushing, which significantly cuts down on the swearing...
@JohnDoe-qw4gc
@JohnDoe-qw4gc 8 ай бұрын
Get yourself a full auto, battery-powered caulk gun
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 8 ай бұрын
It's funny that I thought you were talking about an M3a1 at first.
@Bloodsin1
@Bloodsin1 8 ай бұрын
sounds like OE
@deryademirtas
@deryademirtas 8 ай бұрын
"The 1911 I couldn't put on here because I felt that God would strike me down if I did." - True statement. Made me LOL!
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 7 ай бұрын
Which manufacturer? I would have added any 1911 because of the complexity of the firearm. Tooless disassembly is the modern landscape. I have a double stack 45 and while I would never get rid of it, I cannot honestly recommend any 1911 45 for general every day carry.
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 7 ай бұрын
should have been... it's like the #1 over-rated. Yet the dufus tries to say the glock is over-rated... complete fool.
@frankstabler1920
@frankstabler1920 7 ай бұрын
@@davidmilisock5200 what tools are necessary to field strip a 1911? None. And I have carried a 1911 daily for the better part of 40 years.
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 7 ай бұрын
@@frankstabler1920 how do you remove your slide?
@frankstabler1920
@frankstabler1920 7 ай бұрын
@@davidmilisock5200 turn the bushing with my hand, remove the bushing with my hand, pull the slide back to the correct notch, remove the slide stop with my hand and pull the slide and barrel off the frame. The only tool required for field stripping is your hand.
@andrewfriedrich1821
@andrewfriedrich1821 7 ай бұрын
I bought a broken mp7 many years ago and I got a really good deal on it obviously because it wasn't working but it ended up being a fairly simple fix that h&k was able to do after a lot of begging on my part. But now it's fully functional and dope to show off at the range lol
@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats
@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats 25 күн бұрын
How the heck did you pull that off? MP7 is my dream gun. Is yours in the 4.6xwhatever caliber ?
@christiancostello3832
@christiancostello3832 4 ай бұрын
“My wife wasn’t strong enough to pump the shotgun.……“… I have never heard of this lol
@kennypowers2341
@kennypowers2341 3 ай бұрын
Maverick i have takes more effort than youd think but yeah idk lol
@brandonpeters1618
@brandonpeters1618 3 ай бұрын
@@kennypowers2341 I’ve had a maverick since I was 10 A 10 year old male child should have comparable strength to a woman.
@davidweaver4436
@davidweaver4436 3 ай бұрын
My mother has tennis elbow and can handle our mossberg 500 just fine, lol. I guess just make sure you don't buy a crappy shotgun.
@SophisticatedDogCat
@SophisticatedDogCat 3 ай бұрын
Petite, attractive females typically have a difficulty with this. I’m sorry that your woman is walrus-sized, Christian.
@farflificus
@farflificus 2 ай бұрын
@@kennypowers2341 lube your gun.
@marcd_for_death
@marcd_for_death 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully a "10 Most Underrated" is in the works Chris. 👍🏾
@JohnDoe-qw4gc
@JohnDoe-qw4gc 8 ай бұрын
They'll all be CZs and Caniks.
@streaydog019
@streaydog019 8 ай бұрын
​@@JohnDoe-qw4gc😂Also the beretta apx, iwi masada, and sar 9.
@oddballgunman5288
@oddballgunman5288 8 ай бұрын
How about Arex Delta?
@oddballgunman5288
@oddballgunman5288 8 ай бұрын
I feel like SAR USA is definitely underrated as a whole
@streaydog019
@streaydog019 8 ай бұрын
@@oddballgunman5288 Sar 9 has a small flared mag well. Recently shot a couple other guns with it and have appreciations for it now.
@BrianWood777
@BrianWood777 8 ай бұрын
Please don't say Glock... Please don't say Glock... Please don't say Glock...
@davids5006
@davids5006 8 ай бұрын
😂
@edanpino-xt1ph
@edanpino-xt1ph 8 ай бұрын
Glock is incredibly overrated. They haven’t done anything cool since they started, now the just make different sizes of the same gun. Yes I am possessed by hipster rage at Glock for being stupid
@MnP_Ivan
@MnP_Ivan 8 ай бұрын
Glock is ugly, ghetto, overrated and outdated
@misterfister7262
@misterfister7262 8 ай бұрын
Glock!
@matthewf9909
@matthewf9909 8 ай бұрын
Glock is the most returned gun in the US. LOL😂
@brentcates2214
@brentcates2214 7 ай бұрын
New viewer here, your video randomly came up in my feed as I’m watching my usual car KZfaqrs. You are very informative. I’ve been into guns for about 20 years now, mostly for self defense but obviously for fun as well. I’m not an expert shooter. I subscribed and will start watching more of your videos. Do you ever do an event to meet up with your subscribers to shoot? I feel that I could learn a lot from you
@HighhPlainsDrifter
@HighhPlainsDrifter 7 ай бұрын
A very interesting & informative video once again from the Honest Outlaw!😁😉👍🎉
@ericberman4193
@ericberman4193 7 ай бұрын
My wife loves her PS90. She is in her mid-70s and doesn’t have sufficient upper body strength anymore to comfortably shoulder/fire her AR. The featherweight PS90 with essentially no recoil and fifty round capacity, lets her load and shoulder on Sunday and then shoot all week. Having said that, we’d love to swap out the factory barrel for the short P90 barrel in order to improve it as a PDW.
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 7 ай бұрын
Would it be too insane to try the Civil- Defence Rifle?
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 5 ай бұрын
Sucks that you can't get full auto with a suppressor. That would make it absolutely ideal for her.
@ericberman4193
@ericberman4193 5 ай бұрын
There's a great KZfaq with Larry Vickers balling out of a simulated vehicle ambush and then laying down accurate suppressive return fire with a P90 - but that's Larry Vickers, and that guy is a phenomenal rifle and pistol shot. I once took an advanced pistol class from Larry. Extremely nice guy and an excellent instructor. He shot right along with the rest of us; he had target 12, while I had target 13; Larry was continually offering helpful, supportive comments as to how I could/should improve. He was shooting his brand new Alien semi-auto pistol that he had brought to the class for everyone in the class to try out. Mr. Vickers out-shot everyone in the class - LAPD SWAT Detail, LASD deputies, and a number of very capable civilian shooters. Anyway, my wife and I are both better off with well-aimed semi-automatic fire (although spraying 50 rounds of 5.7x28 would be a lot of fun!!! What we would like however, would be the 11.1" P90 barrel in lieu of the 16" PS90 barrel with the ridiculous 5+" long "muzzle brake" required by the State of Commiefornia in order to exceed 26" OAL. @@thatguy22441
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 5 ай бұрын
MAC 11 with a suppressor.....sounds like a sewing machine....not like a gun@@thatguy22441
@apollo7557
@apollo7557 4 ай бұрын
that's badass! imagine breaking into some old womans house and she pulls out a ps90 😂
@TCK-9
@TCK-9 7 ай бұрын
Loved the Thompson when I was a kid. An uncle of mine survived the mess in Bastogne during ww2 and somehow managed to ship home a crate of booty before he went home. One item of which was a Thompson he inherited during the fight. Plus he also sent a bunch of german gear but he didn't respect any of it due his experiences. But he let the kids play with the guns and helmets, all except the sacred Thompson which kept him alive during that winter in Belgium. :)
@samspencer582
@samspencer582 7 ай бұрын
The German gear is more valuable than the Thompson now. Pity that he didn´t respect the worth of them.
@WillyC300
@WillyC300 7 ай бұрын
@@samspencer582to be fair at that point in time they were less valuable and I’m sure he had some pretty terrible experiences with the Nazis.
@bolinfan1519
@bolinfan1519 7 ай бұрын
@@WillyC300 Do you mean the National Socialist Party of the German Third Reich, or the German Wehrmacht, which had no party members?
@ScottHendrix-yz3du
@ScottHendrix-yz3du 7 ай бұрын
Man my dad had a Thomson 45 when I was a kid to and I could handle it effortlessly at 7 years old. Never had it jam once and it put huge holes in cars , washers and dryers.
@bigdawg3989
@bigdawg3989 7 ай бұрын
@@bolinfan1519I don’t think he cared about the difference after going to war against them😂
@johncook3817
@johncook3817 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! The 1911 is a great gun as is the browning HP. I have also used the FN fal and have found it to be a very reliable gun. Its a bit heavy but that can be useful when you have to hit someone with it! That's about as modern as I get I'm afraid
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 7 ай бұрын
Better to have something and trained well with it than to have nine at Al. 💪🔥👍🗽🇺🇸🦅
@georgeyoung2336
@georgeyoung2336 7 ай бұрын
This is my first time watching one of your videos. I clicked on it expecting to disagree with most if not all of the guns on your lise. But having watched it, I am having a hard time finding fault in any of your choices. I have been around guns most of my life. With 23 years in the corps and a pretty extensive collection of my own. I have personally used most of the guns on your list and completely agree with the order of most of them. I'm fortunate to have come across this video. It was as informative as it was interesting. I'm always interested in getting the honest opinion of someone who has a greater amout of knowledge and experience than me. Clearly your experience level in this arena is far more extensive than my own. Your video was filmed and edited exceptionally well, and your commentary was precise and to the point. Now that I have subscribed to your channel, I look forward to watching your new content as you post it. As well as checking out all your past videos. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge in such an accessible way. Much Appreciation and Respect 🙏 🫡.
@5Minuteman
@5Minuteman 2 ай бұрын
Thankya for your service. This guy rocks.
@autisticaeronaut
@autisticaeronaut 8 ай бұрын
Interesting piece of history: The first mainstream smg was the German MP18, which was made right before the Thompson and influenced other designs such as the MP28 and MP38.
@alexbibby9641
@alexbibby9641 8 ай бұрын
I think one of these guns (mp 28 i believe) apparently inspired the lanchester smg which in itself inspired the cheap as chips to make sten smg
@birbdad1842
@birbdad1842 8 ай бұрын
And they're supposed to be some of the finest shooting smg's ever built from what I hear. Heavy, but not as heavy as the thompson, but exceptionally stable and pleasent to shoot.
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 8 ай бұрын
@@alexbibby9641the Lanchester was a direct copy of the MP28, made in the most expensive way possible.
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 8 ай бұрын
@@alexbibby9641 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7SjZc-nmMjDoGg.htmlsi=wr7XJRRjuKO0ld_k
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 8 ай бұрын
My favorite interwar era SMG (also an MP28 copy) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNShpbhqvs-5po0.htmlsi=dbgJ2sklSr22yUpj
@apex403
@apex403 8 ай бұрын
Id say one of my favorite purchases on amazon this year has been 6 dummy shells for my shotgun. I don't live in a rural area and its tough to get out to the range (dont get me wrong, Ive been out with it - so im very aware of its recoil and how it handles ;) ), but just doing practices exercises of loading and cycling rounds through it safely in my basement is just so very satisfying.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 8 ай бұрын
I do the same and it IS very satisfying. It's also critical practice for a tube fed shotgun since they're pretty much always almost empty, but designed to be topped off on the fly. You're having fun and staying sharp for free. Doesn't get much better than that.
@stephen1991
@stephen1991 8 ай бұрын
They are also a good gift idea for someone who's hard to buy for. If you know what caliber/gauge they have, it's a useful gift.
@sopranos45
@sopranos45 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe shotgun was even on the list unless we're just smarter in the south😂 we can use the shotgun to do about damn near anything... you can't go wrong with a shotgun several great options for ammo.. easy to use even for a female ...they are very affordable and so is the ammo...
@AdamFoster-
@AdamFoster- 8 ай бұрын
​@@sopranos45 - I completely agree.
@6Sally5
@6Sally5 8 ай бұрын
@@sopranos45Well…he didn’t say shotgun….just specifically, “pump action” shotguns.
@stustreck
@stustreck 15 күн бұрын
I was a range officer at a TN TWRA range. Watched a single mom and her 2 sons bring in a new 500 S&W purchased for home defense. They opened up the box and just stared at it. They asked me to shoot it while they watched. They ended up selling it without ever shooting it.
@Rapier1-1
@Rapier1-1 7 ай бұрын
I love the USP more than all of my other handguns, but it took some work. I got a slide cut and put an RMR on it, extended ported barrel, and matchweight, as well as a match trigger. For all the extra I put into it, I finally felt it was just a better shooting gun than my Glocks, M&P, Sigs and of course my 1911. More accurate at range, great reset, little to no recoil for a 45, can mag dump poorly loaded or bad steel case rounds, and is very reliable. But, it’s too expensive to be affordable for a lot of shooters.
@puma51921
@puma51921 8 ай бұрын
I agree with what you said on the pump shotgun. If you train with it and are not scared of it, it's an amazing weapon. Carried one every day for years. Had a hard time going to an AR until things changed out in the world. Saw several people shot with shotguns. Fight ended immediately.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
Sure
@Darthdoodoo
@Darthdoodoo 8 ай бұрын
Is it different for a rifle with the same shot placement tho?
@sisleymichael
@sisleymichael 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I have used pump shotguns since childhood. I'm 65 now. Used one for a long time in the Army. Still using pump gun and compete in trap and skeet. If you are not trained on one, there are other options. I keep a 590A1 by the bed for home defense. They are lethal.
@donalddicorcia2433
@donalddicorcia2433 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Where a rifle round (especially fmj) will make a through-and-through wound, transferring only a fraction of it’s energy, a 12ga load of buckshot or a slug with it’s greater frontal area will create a larger wound cavity with the potential for greater damage. Chunks of stuff are often removed. Having said that, I’ll almost always choose a rifle.
@bakters
@bakters 8 ай бұрын
@@Darthdoodoo " *Is it different for a rifle with the same shot placement tho?* " Yeah. It's worse.
@Jackie_XIII
@Jackie_XIII 8 ай бұрын
I'm fully well aware that my favorite gun is overrated and useless for a lot of people, but that doesn't stop me from absolutely adoring the Kriss Vector. If you ever get the opportunity to shoot a full auto vector you'll understand why, it is a hell of a great experience!
@TheEdgeLord
@TheEdgeLord 8 ай бұрын
Bro I bet that Kriss Vector is sick AF. I have an Mp5 and have a feeling its on the list..lol
@EndoftheBlock7224
@EndoftheBlock7224 8 ай бұрын
Love going to that place
@Jackie_XIII
@Jackie_XIII 8 ай бұрын
@@TheEdgeLord I have burned through so much 9 mm shooting that full auto vector that I'm pretty sure I myself caused an ammo crisis lol
@blaiseeltine9516
@blaiseeltine9516 8 ай бұрын
ive seent vectors go for pretty cheap online used..seems like a lot of value there.
@Jackie_XIII
@Jackie_XIII 8 ай бұрын
@@blaiseeltine9516 I got mine from a listing on GunBroker which included three extended mags, two standard G20 mags, a decent but cheap optic, 200 rounds of 10 mm Auto, and a pretty all right case for $1,200 before fees and FFL. Even the nicer SBR enhanced models are only around $1,600 and you can get the pistol models for pretty cheap
@rubiconbaron9662
@rubiconbaron9662 7 ай бұрын
Interesting take on the shotgun. I have a pump shotgun behind the bedroom door for home defense. I grew up with them and it's second nature for me, but not so much for my family. I'm going to rethink that strategy.
@haroldbell213
@haroldbell213 6 ай бұрын
I keep a 870 20g and a 12g 870 loaded for self defense. And a CZP09 .
@keithdaniels1994
@keithdaniels1994 4 ай бұрын
My brother and I have had this argument for half a century, he loves a pump, I like an auto loader. After this video I think I win. And yes I have owned a Spas 12.
@DrQuagmire1
@DrQuagmire1 2 ай бұрын
@@keithdaniels1994 I prefer the Benelli shotguns myself, as I own an M2 Tactical myself for home defense and absolutely love it!!!! I prefer semi-auto shotguns like the Benelli M2/M3/M4, is because if my home is broken into by multiple armed assailants, you'll definitely wanna sling lead right at them very quickly (especially if you have a 50-shot bandoleer with extra shells at your disposal)
@Bigpapaim
@Bigpapaim 7 ай бұрын
Great video! I own most of those guns including the Thomson and the Desert Eagle and you are exactly correct, but a USP with an LEM trigger is a hell of a gun.
@Marcel_Germann
@Marcel_Germann 8 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that the PDWs, that were designed to be used by soldiers in the rear of the front line that did not require a full size rifle or SMG but something better than a pistol, almost all ended up in the use of special forces instead of the original purpose. MP5K, FN P90, MP7... With some exceptions, for example: In the German Bundeswehr the MP7 replaced the MP2/MP2A1 (Uzi with wooden stock or folding stock in A1), so it is usually found on mechanics, tank crews and so on. The Uzi is top on my personal list of overrated. Nicknamed 32-round hand grenade in the German Bundeswehr. Especially the version with the fixed wooden buttstock. If you hit it hard enough on the buttstock, the bolt will travel back far enough due to inertia to pick up a cartridge from the magazine, chamber it and fire it...on the folding stock that is not a big issue, but with the fixed stock it is.
@mattwalters6834
@mattwalters6834 8 ай бұрын
I also found it interesting.
@josephoakley2817
@josephoakley2817 8 ай бұрын
For the SCAR, I heard reliability issues came from people who weren’t using SCAR mags on it. When used only with factory mags it was a huge success
@DaKdawg
@DaKdawg 8 ай бұрын
I heard that as well. They tried cannibalising old mags that weren't SCAR mags to save money, but it wasn't compatible and caused problems. I think the internals were addressed with later scars which made it better performing, but took so long to get out that scars were abandoned at that point. Still a cool gun imo. With that pricing though, definitely over rated.
@thermaltoyzngear3310
@thermaltoyzngear3310 8 ай бұрын
The Scar 17 is not an overhyped gun. I have yet to find a full power DMR that weighs under 8 lbs, quick change Barrel, short stroke gas piston, folding stock, and sub MOA shooter that isn't a Scar 17.
@TheJoshEoS
@TheJoshEoS 8 ай бұрын
Yeah okay, but the sons of bitches are like 100 bucks a pop!
@TheJoshEoS
@TheJoshEoS 8 ай бұрын
@@JustSomeGuy69420 can't beat a good bolt in 300 win.
@michaelcloss565
@michaelcloss565 8 ай бұрын
@@JustSomeGuy69420 I love my SCAR and while I could have gotten something similar for half the price, I got what I wanted and it works well. Never had an issue with it and it's just a solid gun. It's never not done what I needed it to do so who cares what other guns do. Some people buy certain cars because its the best bang for your buck but not everyone wants to sit in a Corvette when they could be in a Ferrari. Also those guys who can't "shoot worth shit" are doing as you suggest sitting at the range practicing. More power to them.
@shirelan-voiceofthetrees4492
@shirelan-voiceofthetrees4492 15 күн бұрын
Quick comment actually a question. First of all I love your videos and really grateful for what you do and these things you support outside of your videos video I'm a new shooter and one of the frustrations I have being left-handed is that not all of the handguns allow the mag release to be ambidextrous spell more specifically to be switched from one side to the other I just bought a Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield M2 were the built-in laser sight. And apparently it's the only one of the shields where the mag release is not switchable but that was virtually impossible to find out from videos or online or even from the gun store until I tried to have it switched. Would you ever consider doing a video of the models of compact and subcompact that cannot be switched to left handed for mag release? Or where can I find that information out in general
@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411
@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411 6 ай бұрын
I do have a P320. I only got it because of a really good Black Friday sale. I had my doubts at first but I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought I would.
@g.e.fourie5672
@g.e.fourie5672 8 ай бұрын
Love the channel. Would love to see your take on a top 5 series per caliber. Top 5 .22's. Top 5 .380's. Top 5 9mm. Etc. Etc. Keep up the awesome content.
@richardscott982
@richardscott982 8 ай бұрын
Great idea
@MartyBugg
@MartyBugg 8 ай бұрын
He's been posting top 5 videos for years now. Look through his catalog, I'm betting he has most, if not all, your requests.
@gustavomoya8636
@gustavomoya8636 8 ай бұрын
I have the M17 with the Wilson Combat configuration, love it from top to bottom. But I can understand a lot of people have preferences and you’re quite fortunate to have to ability to try so many different brands and calibers of guns. I am really inclined to buy a Canik just from watching your reviews and hope it’s all you make it out to be
@oldvet7566
@oldvet7566 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, I have the p320, but mine is now a PCC, she runs well in a MCK chassis. I don't use it as a full size carry.
@cuckertarlson3329
@cuckertarlson3329 8 ай бұрын
Canik is 🔥 my favorite striker fired made.
@oldvet7566
@oldvet7566 8 ай бұрын
@@cuckertarlson3329 most likely will be my next buy, I carry a glock 23, but I'd like a lighter weapon with more capacity.... and options.
@ianstrachan9410
@ianstrachan9410 8 ай бұрын
I have a canik love it
@user-rn9sb8wu4h
@user-rn9sb8wu4h 8 ай бұрын
What holds me back from Caniks are some recent issues with the microcompact. But more importantly, the middle east is likely to explode any day into a full out regional conflict. Turkey, although a nato member is becoming closer to possibly joining with other enemies of Israel in war. Will all that upheaval make getting parts for Canik products difficult to get ?
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 6 ай бұрын
I love my 870, but I have to admit when shoulder other brands, they just have much better ergonomics and are just much nicer to aim and shoot. Wouldn't be difficult for Remington to retool and make some design improvements. Good video.
@jbkman
@jbkman 6 ай бұрын
Feel like the Thompson was pretty poorly represented given you judged it on a closed bolt jenky modern commercial reproduction. That being said you definitely made a lot of valid points in regards to the weight and ergonomics, I'd love to see a more detailed video on an actual Thompson if you can manage to get your hands on one! Very much like the content none the less!!!
@louispawloski9123
@louispawloski9123 8 ай бұрын
One thing that is nice if you really want a big bore revolver is that you can sometimes get them cheap at a pawn shop BECAUSE People realize after firing them very few times, you can get one at the pawn shop, very little used and with most of a box of bullets
@bigredone1030
@bigredone1030 6 ай бұрын
yup, got my 460sw for 1100. My second one almost mythical deal
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Ай бұрын
I need to start browsing my local pawn shops. New revolvers have become ridiculously expensive.
@jeffxp13
@jeffxp13 7 ай бұрын
As Canadian forced into being able to grab only one pistol before the freeze, very glad I chose a Cz-75 over p320 when those were the two options presented.
@ajjohnson3497
@ajjohnson3497 7 ай бұрын
CZ-75s are crimally underrated, but CZ owners tend to like that about them.
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 7 ай бұрын
Got to love Czechnology. Bohemia for the win!!!!!
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 5 ай бұрын
Yep love my 75
@joemorris2357
@joemorris2357 4 ай бұрын
I love my CZ 75, and the Tanfoglio clone, which may be the best gun I have ever owned for accuracy and reliability.
@charlesdemers1197
@charlesdemers1197 4 ай бұрын
Caliss de chanceux 😭
@alanmountain5804
@alanmountain5804 3 ай бұрын
First time viewing your channel. Its a really good video and I like your format and knowledge. Subscribed
@Skydog3
@Skydog3 4 ай бұрын
Good video! @24:55 hurt me to see the way you made the Glock hot. But other than that, I enjoyed. Subscribed
@fanman8102
@fanman8102 8 ай бұрын
USP made the list. I love my USP40 and I’m not surprised it made the list but you got to admit it is the OG. The fact that is still being compared to modern pistols is evidence of what a great pistol it is. Great list. I’d like to see more!
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 ай бұрын
It could be worse... Could be a MK23 aka "SOCOM pistol".
@Whiskey11Gaming
@Whiskey11Gaming 8 ай бұрын
​@Treblaine or the HK45, or really any H&K product made after the Mp5... they are all solutions in search of a problem. This entire list could be KAC and H&K products and it'd be 100% accurate.
@BreakChannelZero
@BreakChannelZero 8 ай бұрын
Respect for using the greateat caliber.
@captaingradetwo
@captaingradetwo 8 ай бұрын
​@@Treblainethe only downside to the mk23 is its size. That handgun is literally bombproof
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 ай бұрын
@@captaingradetwo Quite a downsize for a handgun to have.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching the Stargate TV show, and thinking the P90 was super cool. Eventually, I got a chance to shoot a PS90. I didn't like the scrunched-up shooting stance, or stepping on spent shell casings. It still looks cool, though.
@afterburner2869
@afterburner2869 8 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@WanderlustZero
@WanderlustZero 8 ай бұрын
Same, I went back to my plasma staff within a week
@pedestrianrights1257
@pedestrianrights1257 8 ай бұрын
"or stepping on spent shell casings.", then again , if the guy next to you was shooting a p90, i'm pretty sure you'd LOVE not getting hit with spent brass.
@nnmmnmmnmnnm
@nnmmnmmnmnnm 7 ай бұрын
I am from the UK so I know nothing about guns but this was very interesting. It would have been nice for you to add info on whether the ammunition for the guns is easy to get and/or expensive as well as you did for the guns themselves.
@dodieoinst4598
@dodieoinst4598 7 ай бұрын
I don't think most of these guns are even obtainable 'cross the pond.
@ilikepussys
@ilikepussys 7 ай бұрын
​@@dodieoinst4598you can own guns in europe. Just the rules are different in each country
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 4 ай бұрын
the ammp is available in most places...it's different over here....
@kennypowers2341
@kennypowers2341 3 ай бұрын
The ammo is the expensive part
@5Minuteman
@5Minuteman 2 ай бұрын
In the US anyone can buy any ammunition in any quantity at any time in more than 40/50 states. It's just expensive.
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 4 ай бұрын
The pump shotgun was what was issued to every cruiser for my 30 years and I always hated shooting the thing.
@farhan.naushad
@farhan.naushad 8 ай бұрын
You put both Glock 19 and Sig P320 on this list. That is the most honest list anyone could come up with. I don’t think there’s anything to add or subtract from this list.
@9770G
@9770G 8 ай бұрын
This list should have included caniks and M&P’s not Glocks and USP’s but sure 👍🏻
@farhan.naushad
@farhan.naushad 8 ай бұрын
@@9770G I’m sorry that it hurts.
@Garrumx
@Garrumx 8 ай бұрын
Him not putting 1911/2011s on the list shows cowardice. They are the definition of overrated.
@d2profit907
@d2profit907 8 ай бұрын
@@9770G neither of those are overrated though and neither is the glock
@MazdaB-sq4ue
@MazdaB-sq4ue 8 ай бұрын
@@9770G Glocks definitely belong on this list. But the USP doesn't.
@larrylarry739
@larrylarry739 8 ай бұрын
I've owned half a dozen different p320 pistols in different calibers (2 in 45ACP and 4 in 9mm) and never had a single malfunction with any of them. Pre and post upgrade models. No issues with reliability at all. I no longer own any of them but that's for other reasons. YMMV obviously.
@DragonSlayer-tg5mk
@DragonSlayer-tg5mk 8 ай бұрын
I am jealous! I have had ONE P320 and it has been sent back to SIG 3 times. 2 broken striker assist springs. It malfunctions and is the least accurate handgun I have ever owned. I guess I got a pure Lemon. I'm glad you didn't have any issues!
@Blakgun
@Blakgun 8 ай бұрын
I've owned five P320s, all different models, put thousands of rounds through them and never had a single malfunction. I've had better luck with the P320 than I did with the Glocks I've owned. And yeah... the drop fire issue was acknowledged and fixed by Sig 6 years ago. Why the fuck are people still talking about it? Probably watching KZfaq videos from 2016 and not looking at the dates. LOL
@bloodrune329
@bloodrune329 4 ай бұрын
The fact that the AR10 exists basically nulls the existence of a Scar at this point. AR platform that almost everyone is familiar with and is half the price? Or a super expensive rifle that shoots the same caliber?
@TechSword
@TechSword 5 ай бұрын
What kind of jam rates do you experience with the PS90? Do the bullets feed cleanly with the twisting magazine?
@nolier
@nolier 8 ай бұрын
My father carried a Thompson in ww2 and when listening to the commentary it was pretty well everything my father said ,good in urban situations but too heavy
@TheUndeadslayer221
@TheUndeadslayer221 8 ай бұрын
It's a bit heavy -Potential History (KZfaqr) describing USA small arms in WW2
@darbyheavey406
@darbyheavey406 7 ай бұрын
The US itself replaced the Thompson with the M3 SMG. My Dad was an instructor on the Thompson in WWII and he said it was amazingly accurate.
@wusb8
@wusb8 7 ай бұрын
i always thought that the thompson was better used from the hip to get shots down range and cover area in close quarters, and not meant for long range accurate engagements@@darbyheavey406
@mhammer3186
@mhammer3186 7 ай бұрын
@@darbyheavey406technically it was replaced by the M2 smg but that was replaced by the M3 before any real production had a occurred. A lot of the problems with the Thompson have to do with it being a 1st gen sub machine gun. It was essentially a blowback .45 that was milled making it super heavy. Funny enough it was so expensive that its price was used as the tax for the NFA as it was seen as an ungodly high amount at the time.
@ScottHendrix-yz3du
@ScottHendrix-yz3du 7 ай бұрын
​@@darbyheavey406my dad had one as a kid and I could handle it at 7 years old with ease. It never jammed and we never missed. The thing just tears into anything!!! You could chew up a car with it in seconds. My favorite weapon I've ever fired.
@nextlevelfirearms6585
@nextlevelfirearms6585 8 ай бұрын
I always thought the SCAR in .308 was well done. Biggest drawback is it is not SR-25/PMAG compatible
@randylahey2242
@randylahey2242 8 ай бұрын
As long as you don’t put a big scary can on it , as that would break it and void your warranty
@sgthop
@sgthop 8 ай бұрын
Sure, it's well done, for the most part. But it's not $4000 well done. For well under half that you can get an AR-10 that's better in every way, except not being able to fold the stock.
@kevmoful
@kevmoful 8 ай бұрын
My brother in law has one and it is cool for sure . But I literally bought a Sig Ar10 , 500rds of ammo, a full level 4 body armor setup , and a 3 day training course for less than his Scar.
@nextlevelfirearms6585
@nextlevelfirearms6585 8 ай бұрын
@randylahey2242 just read up on some of that. FN (per customer) said things like "suppressed setting is not meant to be used" , etc. Very disappointed after reading more into this. I still believe the system is sound but I question FN QC & CS, which, considering that they make a good amount of our military small arms, should be much better than the experiences I've read about after reading your comment.
@nextlevelfirearms6585
@nextlevelfirearms6585 8 ай бұрын
@sgthop I agree the price is above where I believe it should be but I'd hesitate to agree that an AR10 is "better in every way". A folding stock is a big plus when you're entering & exiting vehicles for example. Also, piston driven, lighter & pretty soft for a .308. Besides the price, magazine choice & FNs take on suppressors, etc as replied to in another comment - what are the SCAR shortcomings?I've shot many a SCAR 17 suppressed without issue- although I do find FNs responses disappointing about this issue, my clients & I have never experienced any issues.
@VapeTime79
@VapeTime79 5 ай бұрын
My only issue with pump action is that basically everything I have besides a bold action 22, is that everything else I have is semi auto so by muscle memory I always seem to forget that I have to actuate the action lol.
@happyhello5988
@happyhello5988 3 ай бұрын
I’m a new subscriber and I have been watching your videos for a while now. I loved this video because you included how your wife handled these guns too. We all own guns at our house and it’s important to remember that anyone inside the house may have to shoot an intruder with whatever is available! So knowing how to shoot with every gun in the house is very important (they may not work for all, like the shotgun) We all have our own favorite concealed carry weapons.
@MS54-dc3cy
@MS54-dc3cy 8 ай бұрын
Concerning the 12 gauge - I'm 6'2", 220lbs but 70 years old. I now use "lite" - reduced recoil slugs and 00 which DO REALLY Help Big Time! My oldman shoulder likes these rds. Try some - most mfrs make them.
@Randomstuff-xg7nt
@Randomstuff-xg7nt 8 ай бұрын
Lol, I read that wrong. Manufacturers.
@kizzmequik70four
@kizzmequik70four 8 ай бұрын
@@Randomstuff-xg7nt Either reading is valid, I suppose?
@Patson20
@Patson20 8 ай бұрын
Might also look into the Aguila mini shells, doubles your ammo capacity and is half the kick but half the range. Only need a little 15 buck adapter to feed them in most pumps.
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 8 ай бұрын
Two things I've done with some of my pumps. One, shorten the stock, I use the Magpul SGA on 870's and 590's, or a youth stock. Then, put the stock into your peck, under your eye, and don't stand bladed to the target. Feels odd at first, but your shoulder won't feel any recoil. Second, use a limbsaver butt pad, or similar.
@Electrikskullz
@Electrikskullz 8 ай бұрын
Even in semi, the PS90 with a short barrel is a phenomenal weapon for room clearing and capacity. Probably on of the best designs for inside the home. Anyway, The PS90 isn’t supposed to have a 16” barrel, but it’s inconvenient to Form 1 and expensive.
@Devin7Eleven
@Devin7Eleven 8 ай бұрын
Just don’t tell anyone
@johnmassoud930
@johnmassoud930 7 ай бұрын
Love my SPAS 12. Great gun to fire. Will admit it's hard to find parts for. Love my .44's as well. They're not overrated. They're just not for beginners. And yes a .44 Special is my concealed carry of choice. Works quite well for its purpose. I have 1 Glock. Reason I have a Glock? I don’t want 2. Merry Christmas.
@hilldwler420
@hilldwler420 5 ай бұрын
The mic doesn’t do the “Boom” report from a 12 gauge,justice because Its bark is as bad as its bite.
@johnk4541
@johnk4541 8 ай бұрын
USP? I would’ve never thought you’d include that
@rackpull772
@rackpull772 8 ай бұрын
Because it never should have been included lol. The logic of saying "well some modern guns are kinda better" doesn't make the USP overrated. It's literally one of the greatest handguns ever made.
@N7mudkip
@N7mudkip 8 ай бұрын
USP is literally the most reliable and durable COMBAT pistol. It’s not made for AIWB, or for “features” etc, and they often come with 3 dot white sights or night sights. THO is a great Guntuber but he should know that an old gun like that wasn’t built to compete with guns made 30 years after it. It was built to be a combat tank for its era and it certainly exceeded all expectations.
@9770G
@9770G 8 ай бұрын
@@rackpull772yup and same goes for Glocks. Neither of them should be in this list. They both deserve all the hype they get. If anything canik’s should be on this list.
@h3brew
@h3brew 8 ай бұрын
I think its fair. USP's especially the DA/SA configuration can have terrible DA and just "ok" SA pulls. Beretta 92's factory triggers are easily better and some CZ's like the P-01 and 75"s are even better. Allll that being said they can be improved, all mine are now LEM and have the GG SRS kits in them. Of course the esperts and the elites have the better triggers and internals as well. Obviously if you shoot anything enough you can overcome even bad DA pull weight and make it work but its nice not to have to. LEM for life.
@AmericanDuck
@AmericanDuck Ай бұрын
I have several 9mm semi-auto pistols and one is a USP-9 with night sites. I bought it because it’s 100% capable of handling all types of loads, it is large enough for my XXL size hands with a large trigger guard and it’s very simple to clear a jam. My favorite bit is that it is very easy to service and never runs hot and is consistent. Yes, I think they kick harder, and the ergonomics of the grip is too narrow. My favorites are still 1911 S&W because they are just superior in accuracy and recoil, but standard mags are 7 round capacity and that’s low for a 9mm full size. Hammerless is great, but I prefer the 1911 DA/SA with hammer. I know it and can repair it and find it to be more reliable. I live in CA, so I’d love to shoot a VP9 but can’t if I were to go hammerless. Not a fan of Sigs. Just can’t admire the chunkyness of the slide and garage-door springs on the 226.
@thelastminuteman7513
@thelastminuteman7513 8 ай бұрын
On an unrelated note payday last week so I'm at my local proprietor of pew pews and this gentleman there had to be pushing 80 an old farmer in denim and an Army vet hat sitting there talking about cowboy action shoots until the guy brings up what he ordered and he opens the box from Smith Wesson and it's that folding PCC you did the 1000 round review and torture test on. So I said to him that's a cool gun I saw this channel on KZfaq review it called the Honest Outlaw and he responds with "yeah that guy beat the crap out of it it kept going". Just thought it was so cool this guy over twice my age was watching the same KZfaq channels as me. And the fact that your reviews and thoughts on these guns really do affect our decisions.
@danielbarnes7559
@danielbarnes7559 4 ай бұрын
I love the fact that you bring up barrel length, many handgun owners never take a weapon retention course, I carried a sidearm for an armed security company for a decade, the company owner was a police detective in SE Mass, NOBODY worked for us that didn't complete a weapons retention course first
@yonyat6105
@yonyat6105 Ай бұрын
Bruh the faces your wife makes has me dying. Especially when she’s trying to pump the shot gun but cant😂
@shiddyangler
@shiddyangler 8 ай бұрын
With the mechanical-feeling action when firing and heavy, full-size 45, the USP has always felt like the modern, older brother of the 1911. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for them ever since seeing them in CounterStrike and Half-Life when I was a kid. On the plus size, you only ever need to fully disassemble it once, because you'll never get it back together after that. Gotta love German engineering!
@varanid9
@varanid9 8 ай бұрын
I'll take it over anything else. Reliability is king.
@varanid9
@varanid9 8 ай бұрын
2nd choice is a tie between Sig Sauer P226 and the CZ-75.
@shiddyangler
@shiddyangler 8 ай бұрын
@@varanid9 love me some steel frames!
@h3brew
@h3brew 8 ай бұрын
After a video series on the disassembly, and doing several LEM conversion, I wouldn't say they are that hard to work on or take apart. They're engineering I still respect regardless. Carry my USP9c LEM as an EDC.
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 8 ай бұрын
I think you meant younger brother. There's no way a double action juggernaut like the USP came before the single action workhorse 1911.
@docgillygun9531
@docgillygun9531 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see The Honest Outlaw back on the attack. Hope the tinnitus is improving. It does indeed suck. I am a little butthurt about the USP but I bought mine because I know it will go bang and land in the right place every time without fail. I like simple and reliable things in high stress situations.
@johnk4541
@johnk4541 8 ай бұрын
Right when I seen it at the beginning I got a little sad😂
@nextlevelfirearms6585
@nextlevelfirearms6585 8 ай бұрын
The USP ROCKS! LEM trigger & forget it....never look back. Love most of the H&K pistols & sub guns
@f1rebreather123
@f1rebreather123 8 ай бұрын
I mean overrated doesn't mean bad, just too heavily praised. These guns are overrated for a reason
@cavalieroutdoors6036
@cavalieroutdoors6036 8 ай бұрын
@@f1rebreather123 The only thing that makes the USP 'overrated' is some minor things that make it dated, but can probably easily be addressed. Add an optic cut, update the sights, and address the trigger and it's right there with everything else (aside from the fact that it would still carry the H&K price tag, but one can only ask for so much).
@N7mudkip
@N7mudkip 8 ай бұрын
@@f1rebreather123what’s overrated about it? It’s not a 2023 Gucci carry gun lmao. It’s an old, large, and probably the most durable reliable handgun made for real combat ever made. The fact that it’s still being compared to guns 30+ years later means it’s not actually overrated. If you “need” an optic so badly, you can get that done on a USP.
@paulobrien9248
@paulobrien9248 3 ай бұрын
Interesting point in 1943 General MacArthur wanted to replace the Thompson SMG with The Australian Owen SMG . The Owen was far and away the better and more reliable weapon . Now it's often called the best SMG of WW2 . It was almost unstoppable . The top mounted magazine meant the user could lay prone when firing . The top mag also meant that it was in line with the body so no risk of snagging on shrubs . US government blocked the use of Owen guns by the US Army due to political pressure from the Thompson manufacturers .US troops in the SW Pacific would do anything to get their hands on an Owen .
@bruceford6264
@bruceford6264 Ай бұрын
Everything you mentioned about the pump shotgun can be overcome with training. The fact that your wife couldn't handle a 590 is a problem as they're one of the smoothest out there.
@newdefsys
@newdefsys 8 ай бұрын
I had a neighbor run out and buy a .44 magnum revolver, right after 9/11. He showed it to me, and I said "uh, okay. Not sure how you plan to use that thing, but good on ya". So, him and I went out to a gravel pit so he could "break it in" and he fired all of about 3 shots and then he was done with it. About a year later I asked him if he still had that .44 and he said that he had gotten rid of it months ago.
@swempley
@swempley 8 ай бұрын
I love my S&W 29. I'm a big Clint Eastwood fan.
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Ай бұрын
Magnum cartridges highly depend on body and hand size. I have an 18.5_oz 7 shot 357 magnum from Smith & Wesson. It's a Scandium frame with a titanium cylinder. I can shoot it very accurately one handed, with full power loads. However, my palms are 11" in diameter, and I'm an ex collegiate wrestler and powerlifter. At 6' tall, and weighing 225_lb due to muscle, magnums aren't as difficult. Put the same revolver in the hands of a small woman, and she'll never want to shoot again. I still can't get that horrific video out of my mind. A man gave a woman a Smith & Wesson 500, and she shot herself in the head and died, after flinching from the recoil from the first shot.
@reinholdw1800
@reinholdw1800 8 ай бұрын
You talked up the 870 at first, I was wondering what you were going to say that's bad about it. But, I fully agree with the cons. However, in the right hands, the 870 is great. I love it.
@frankpienkosky5688
@frankpienkosky5688 4 ай бұрын
the army opted for something cheaper
@frankrosatto4575
@frankrosatto4575 4 ай бұрын
Pretty spot on...I have everything on there except the p90, anything Glock and the mp7.. I'm a 1911 guy, I love the M1A1 ( 2 of them , socoms ).. desert Eagles.. love them , got the .50 , 44 mag and multiple 45 and 9mm baby eagles ..great platforms.. not a glockenspiel guy at all .. my Spas 12 is Mainly for wall dressing..wouldn't trust my life on it... great video bro... I'm a bulpop guy mainly.. tavors, FN FS, , Hellions, that type of stuff
@Team-lr6ty
@Team-lr6ty 6 ай бұрын
Desert Eagle .50AE- Leon S.Kennedy magnum(by the way)!
@darkwriter77
@darkwriter77 8 ай бұрын
I'd put snub-nosed revolvers, in general, pretty high up on the list, too. So many folks think they're the be-all-end-all of concealed carry, especially in calibers like .357 Mag (which loses a LOT of its power out of a short barrel). But you get a really short sight radius, a really heavy, long trigger that a lot of folks will struggle with (especially female shooters to whom they get recommended all the time), and oftentimes only FIVE ROUNDS, with a slow and awkward reload that can only be made fast if you're Jerry Miculek. There are a bajillion 9mm semi-auto subcompact pistols nowadays that are just as easy to conceal as a snubby, often hold twice as many rounds, and also often cost significantly less (especially when compared to most S&W or Kimber revolvers).
@Sinsofcarolina
@Sinsofcarolina 8 ай бұрын
My buddy is a pretty good shot with all firearms I’ve seen him shoot: ARs, striker-fired pistols, SA pistols, clay shooting, etc. He picked up a .38 revolver for like $700 to use as his new truck gun and we went shooting immediately after. That heavy DA pull had him shooting all over the damn place. Sure he will get better with practice but like you said 5 shots? Harder skill curve? I think he bumped his damn head.
@mikebaggott7802
@mikebaggott7802 8 ай бұрын
Snub nose revolvers are good for one thing, a lightweight back up gun to a good primary gun. I carried one on my ankle during my law enforcement career and, while I could make solid hits out to 25 yards, I was under no illusions as to it's purpose. It was last ditch, short-range gun to save my life. Carrying it as your primary is just silly.
@FarmerStatesman
@FarmerStatesman 7 ай бұрын
@@mikebaggott7802 I could ring the 8-inch plate at 50 yards with my Detective Special. bang "You mis... (ding) ... well I'll be damned." That said, I cringe when women show up to class with either a S&W DAO LadySmith Centennial - or a Glock 43X. Tiny grip, hard to grasp, short sight radius, hella recoil compared to larger models.
@mikebaggott7802
@mikebaggott7802 7 ай бұрын
@@FarmerStatesman , I had a Detective Special at the time. Excellent gun and I could shoot rather well with it. At the end of the day, I much rather have a mid sized 9mm any day.
@gunmonkey6545
@gunmonkey6545 8 ай бұрын
You mentioned Glock’s having more issues over the past few years and I think that it’s not just Glock. I have not bought a Glock in that time frame, but I have bought S&W and Rugers and they had to go back for repairs. I think it’s a COVID thing because they might be working with skeleton crews or perhaps less qualified crews. Just a thought.
@texaspatriot9159
@texaspatriot9159 8 ай бұрын
Everything after the coof has gone to shit
@montanafun9830
@montanafun9830 8 ай бұрын
I agree gun quality has dropped significantly in the past few years
@joshdiehl8737
@joshdiehl8737 8 ай бұрын
You're probably right, but even without the reliability thing Glocks are still over rated. I personally find glocks very reliable and also very over priced and low in standard features
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 8 ай бұрын
I believe you, but that’s crazy to me that an m&p had issues. I own well over a dozen of their pistols and a couple of their ARs and I’ve never had an issue with one of them over 10s of thousands of rounds.
@Maddog3060
@Maddog3060 8 ай бұрын
Maybe so, but Glock's main selling point these days is its reliability. Seems kinda dumb to not focus on keeping the one selling point that keeps them in the game.
@dogman9558
@dogman9558 6 ай бұрын
I only counter 9, also considering getting a usp compact for my conceal carry. I love the way they feel in my hand and they just feel like a more refined 1911. Mighty spendy though, close to what my AK build cost.
@hakimcameldriver
@hakimcameldriver 4 ай бұрын
The FN FAL is what the scar wanted to be when it grows up
@billydunkirk617
@billydunkirk617 2 ай бұрын
😂
@johnp8647
@johnp8647 8 ай бұрын
Its tough to be a Sig fan and an Honest Outlaw fan at the same time...
@joshdiehl8737
@joshdiehl8737 8 ай бұрын
He loves a bunch of SIGs. Said the p226 is the .ost reliable auto ever. Think he also loves the 365. Just hates the p360
@Rufus_McMillian
@Rufus_McMillian 8 ай бұрын
Not me. I love my P320. Never had an issue and have thousands of rounds through it
@sammyg4806
@sammyg4806 8 ай бұрын
@@Rufus_McMillianMy P320 xcarry has been 100% reliable out of the box in over 2,000 rounds. But I only shoot factory ammo. Also the drop safe issue is over blown, because it is non existent in post upgrade modela. The majority of people shootings themselves with it broke multiple safety rules. The gun has no trigger safety blade, and a precocked striker, if you are negligent with it, the gun is less forgiving than say …a Glock.
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie 8 ай бұрын
My Grandfather was a 101st Paratrooper in WW2. If he was alive today, he'd disagree. He had nothing but praise for it. He brought his M1A1 back.
@mikadopen4809
@mikadopen4809 8 ай бұрын
I could imagine your grandfather was hyped to have it back then, its a fantastic sub-gun, but with modern alternatives, its inaccessibility and cost, the tommy just doesn't hold a candle to a LWCR or other modern 45 acps
@mattwalters6834
@mattwalters6834 8 ай бұрын
@@mikadopen4809he would have also had a select fire SMG.
@JockBlock-vd2ep
@JockBlock-vd2ep 2 ай бұрын
I read an account from a German Landser that he was riding on the back of a tank in Italy when he looked down and saw an American GI pointing a Thompson directly at him from about 4 metres away. The Landser said he had a “oh shit” moment when the GI emptied the entire magazine directly at him. not a single .45 slug touched him and another soldier riding on a tank in front of him put a quick burst from his mp40 into the side of his face obviously killing him. The Thompson was a beautiful firearm meant to put fear into the sides of barns from twenty feet away or hold down circus tents in a windstorm.
@stanthebamafan
@stanthebamafan 5 ай бұрын
I know a dude who was on the test and evaluation team with the seal teams during the scar acquisition process. He said no one liked it and they were surprised it ended up getting a contract.
@terrycostakis6284
@terrycostakis6284 8 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhhh. I love my P320 retrofitted with Wilson Combat goodies. Had it since they were released and believe it or not I've never had a single malfunction with either my handloads or commercial ammo in 3000+ rounds. As far as the drop safe or phantom firing issues, I don't remember ever seeing somebody being able to replicate the issues. As your list got shorter and shorter my pulse rate increased hoping that you had either changed your mind or more likely, that you forgot about it. Alas however, such was not the case. Oh well, in spite of our differences I still think you're the best gun reviewer and have the best channel out there.
@DarkPhysicx
@DarkPhysicx 8 ай бұрын
I’m so glad my blind buy of a P320 M17 was cancelled by the company I bought it from. It was during peak Covid and they could not get a hold of one for months so I cancelled it. With that same money I bought a CZ Shadow 2…best series of events ever lol.
@habibsspirit
@habibsspirit 8 ай бұрын
I prefer my P320 over the CZ Shadow 2 and I perform better both on precision and competitive IPSC shooting with the P320. I didn't want a P320 and wanted to buy a Shadow 2, but it was unavailable at the time and the P320 was the only one I could get, so I ended up buying it thinking I would sell it later to get the CZ... 3000 rounds down the road and now I prefer the P320.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 2 ай бұрын
Thompson is just iconic for it's design and the fact it was used in Mafia's biggest moves, in otherwords no one likes it for how well it does as a gun.
@johnasti7429
@johnasti7429 7 ай бұрын
Man..... I am impressed on your knowledge....Excellent video, so much honest information. Great job..
@DyrewulfNV
@DyrewulfNV 8 ай бұрын
big bore revolvers. I've had two .454 Casull's - LOVED them both, but back then (15+ years ago) it was $2.75 per shot, so I eventually got rid of both. I got the first one because a guy sold it to a gun store while I was shopping there, he said it was his 'house gun,' and the guy behind the counter said 'what kind of houses were you hunting with it, ranches, split levels...'
@araneaetvelivolum1086
@araneaetvelivolum1086 8 ай бұрын
I like this video. As someone who goes at least once a week to the range, your remarks regarding big bore revolvers and pump action shotguns are acknowledged. I love my Taurus 66 and will get a 44 soon but as you said, I shoot those guns regularly. Same applies to my Maverick 88. The big advantage I drew out of mastering large calibers guns was that my trigger manipulation skills improved significantly for 9mm pistols since I started shooting revolvers. This video is very helpful and gives good advice in between what to look for when planning a gun purchase (great side effect I value a lot). Thanks for sharing 👍🤙
@cavalieroutdoors6036
@cavalieroutdoors6036 8 ай бұрын
I love my Taurus 44. It's probably the single best dry fire training tool available. Yeah, I know there are gimmicks out there that are probably cheaper. But owning a second double action pistol 1: gives you another fun gun to use even if it's just at the range, and 2: a heavier trigger pull to exercise your finger and improve trigger control. I didn't buy the 44 for dry fire practice, or for concealed carry. I bought it for bears when I'm out in the woods. But I love that monstrosity to pieces.
@Stryker200000
@Stryker200000 7 ай бұрын
I gotta say, I stumbled across your channel while looking at which 5.7 to pick up and if the Echelon was worth it or not, but besides Hichcok (I butchered it, I'm sorry) and Ian Jesus, your channel is the only other gun channel I actually like so far and you and your wife seem like really cool people. Keep up the content and I look forward to other videos you post
@pops55650
@pops55650 7 ай бұрын
I’ve owned two early production Desert Eagles, a .357 back in the 80s and a .50AE in the 90s. Both were extremely reliable. Never had a jam. Friend bought one in 2019, nothing but problems. For me, too big for an EDC. We broke down in the Idaho desert in the 1980s and had a 5 mile walk back to our base, that .357 Deagle dug in my side and threw out my back a little in my 20s
@CeltKnight
@CeltKnight 8 ай бұрын
With the possible exception of the P365, I think SIG pistols went down hill after the P220 series. I've carried a P220, a 229, and a 226 and they were all great. The 226/229 became our issue guns and I don't remember them ever having a problem other than one guy who put aftermarket grips that didn't fit and bound up his slide (and my P220 that I bought used years before we issued guns and shot A LOT that wound up needing a new barrel though I traded it for a USP). When SIG embraced the striker fired craze (I prefer hammers, call me old) it seems like their outstanding product just became at best mediocre.
@Sweetness71775
@Sweetness71775 8 ай бұрын
I prefer hammer over striker as well
@jmurdadasteppa
@jmurdadasteppa 8 ай бұрын
I'm with you on the hammers. I'm a huge fan of DA/SA as well. I love the p226 and p229.
@benjamin3290
@benjamin3290 8 ай бұрын
Totally agreed. I own several Sig’s, and as you said the P365 is excellent. But man those P320’s are shit especially when you have a P226.
@RK-dj1ry
@RK-dj1ry 8 ай бұрын
The P229 is my heaviest pistol, but it remains my EDC because I love it so much. Fantastic pistol.
@pablo4yu
@pablo4yu 8 ай бұрын
I love hammers too, but if i had to pick a striker fired, definitely a p320, best striker fired
@eduardorivera4100
@eduardorivera4100 8 ай бұрын
With pumps if you use the Paul Harrell method of pumping off the recoil I think it’s just as effective as an auto but more reliable if you’re not a weakling
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
You think he invited that? Rube
@eduardorivera4100
@eduardorivera4100 8 ай бұрын
@@HWG-wm8ld no but he made it popular to people that can’t afford classes
@brianshuler6951
@brianshuler6951 8 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm two out of three. I have: *a USPc bought in 2000; *a Remington 870 WingMaster bought in 1972. I still use them both.
@liamferreira8912
@liamferreira8912 3 ай бұрын
All my mates were going nuts about the Mauser C96 when I inherited my Grandad’s one. Very cool gun, as it’s case also doubles as it’s stock and overall just a very cool looking historical piece of weaponry. Gives one an idea of the trajectory of semi auto handguns until John Browning rewrote the rule book. But my goodness can’t hit a barn door with it at 50 meters (I think the rear sight is misaligned with the front), tiring to use as a handgun due to it being front heavy, and 7.63x25mm is extremely difficult to find and expensive where I live. An impressive piece of history which I’m privileged to own, but no surprises as to why these aren’t seeing general usage no more.
@joccievier3146
@joccievier3146 3 ай бұрын
so, i want a glock 19 (like everyone else in the world) what would you replace it for? im wanting a gun for the range i have my conceal carry gun already my sheild plus and im looking for a good gun to shoot at the range thats gonna last a long time and easy to use as well as has a large aftermarket selection. any ideas?
@PsychopathicV2
@PsychopathicV2 8 ай бұрын
The Thompson… You are not entirely right or wrong on that one. Original 21, 27, 28, 28A1, M1 or M1A1 I never really heard of reliability issues. However the 1927A1 model that Auto Ordnance makes now yes they absolutely have reliability issues. I’ll fully admit I’ve only put about 300-400 rounds through mine. Got it brand new. So I might still be in the “break in” period. However I’ve only had 1 mag run through clean with no FTF. The more I take it out the more it’s smoothed out. However there’s only so much you can do when it jams every 4 or 5 rounds. Gets very tiring after 2-3 mags. Usually trade off for something else when shooting.
@tomasdunn4847
@tomasdunn4847 8 ай бұрын
I addressed that known issue in my comment as well it is fixable
@rc54
@rc54 8 ай бұрын
PS90 mags are easy to load with a tiny bit of training. It's a sweet travel gun with some minor tweaks.
@brucebelvin2058
@brucebelvin2058 7 ай бұрын
6:45 He's the first person in history to get two cartridges to fit in a barrel.
@jeffreyhannah2879
@jeffreyhannah2879 6 ай бұрын
My gen 5 Glock came with a new improved barrel, improved trigger, got rid of finger grooves, new tritium sights, and interchangeable back straps. All are new improvements. So why didn't he point that out, no changes huh?
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Ай бұрын
The Gen 4's had interchangeable back straps.
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Ай бұрын
Glock gets a lot of hate, because there are so many clones that are far better pistols, and they cost the same or less. The grip angle is terrible, the blocky slide and terrible sights are a negative. IMO, the lack of a thumb safety is a negative. Glock could easily sell the same model with and without a thumb safety, just like the M&P's. The Gen 5 Glocks do have a lot of improvements. They have better sights, and they're all optics ready. I had no idea that their renowned reliability isn't what it used to be. Then again, I suspect Honest Outlaw cleaned his about 1,500 rounds ago!
@bobbbobb1624
@bobbbobb1624 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see a review on the new Ruger Marlin lever actions
@ChrisLoew
@ChrisLoew 8 ай бұрын
Why, they are still over priced and are what they are. Nothing good, nothing bad, just playing off nostalgic ideas. Buy several 22lr rifles and pistols instead and have way more fun.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow 8 ай бұрын
@@ChrisLoew Shows you have no clue what you're talking about.
@Adiscretefirm
@Adiscretefirm 8 ай бұрын
​@@ChrisLoewhow many deer are you going to get this season with that box of .22 rifles? That's what the levers are good at, hunting.
@bobbbobb1624
@bobbbobb1624 8 ай бұрын
Why not? He’s stated several times he loves lever actions. Would make sense for him to review one of the new offerings especially after the disaster a lot of the Remington marlins were.
@notsosilentmajority1
@notsosilentmajority1 8 ай бұрын
Chris, you are reasonable and you ask for different opinions without having an issue with differing opinions. That's one of the great things about your channel. To borrow your most common line, "With that being said", lol - It wasn't fair to knock down the pump action shotgun because (8:17) "it's usually given to new shooters and people that just want a self defense gun because it is affordable". You seem to be too focused on new shooters when discussing pump action shotguns. I like the fact that you have your wife assist you in videos because it gives us her view and opinion that we can use for our own wives, girlfriends, etc.. But having her trying to rack a shotgun that's new to her, in the cold, with slippery gloves on isn't the average shotgun shooter. The claim is just a bit too focused on new shooters and smaller stature shooters that are new to shotguns and forgets about the huge number of people with shotguns that don't fit into that box. Yes, it has a lot of recoil but that shouldn't make it overrated. The recoil statement is accurate but the claim about new shooters is not able to be verified and even if it was, that doesn't take away from all the of the positive things that you said (7:45 - 8:05) it was, and agreed it was. BTW, not a FUDD, shotguns rule the world guy, although with every birthday I may be getting closer to that description, lol. Great job on the video and this is usually a fun topic for debate, as you already know far better than most.
@derigel7662
@derigel7662 8 ай бұрын
what do your farts smell like.....since you huff them so often. If you say you are "not a FUDD".....you are a FUDD
@contentsdiffer5958
@contentsdiffer5958 8 ай бұрын
It's overrated precisely because of the hype. Hop onto a forum and ask what to get for your first piece for home defense, and like a third of the replies will be a 870 or something similar, but it's simply not a great platform for a large amount of the population. For those that can use it, it's pretty great.
@NPC_-mf4dw
@NPC_-mf4dw 7 ай бұрын
German here. Can only agree on the USP. I HATED the P8 (German Army variant of the USP with some minor modifications but same gun ultimately) during my service time, it just felt clunky and just unpleasant to shoot.
@user-sx7wx7xi7f
@user-sx7wx7xi7f 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your time and advice and I enjoyed the show
@jshrubz
@jshrubz 8 ай бұрын
12:41 "...stopping power isn't everything." Scott from Kentucky Ballistics would disagree on that one lol
@sgthop
@sgthop 8 ай бұрын
Punt gun EDC
@aslamc9288
@aslamc9288 8 ай бұрын
Everything you said about big bore revolvers is why I learned to shoot handguns on DA/SA semi-autos and double action revolvers. I got comfortable with those platforms before I ever moved on to striker fired guns. That said, I like my revolvers at .357/.38, thank you very much. I don’t need anything bigger than that 😁
@landofsmo
@landofsmo 8 ай бұрын
Well said. The revolver is tough to master, but worth spending time with. The 357/38 definitely makes that more fun!
@mikematusek4233
@mikematusek4233 8 ай бұрын
I agree with a 6 inch .44 Mag, I carry a Charter bulldog in .44 Spec. To revolvers as a whole, my wife (5'; 90 pounds) used my 2 inch cobra her first time and kept all 6 in the 10 ring at 25 yards.
@AdamFoster-
@AdamFoster- 8 ай бұрын
I've had a CPL for over 20yrs, and standardized on .38 and 9mm years ago. It's all you need. Plus shot placement is everything. That being said I am interested in getting a CZ 82 or 83. The .32 ACP version holds the most I've ever seen. 15rnds, in a gun the size of a Makarov or PPK. Maybe a little wider though due to the double stack construction.
@oddballgunman5288
@oddballgunman5288 8 ай бұрын
I qualify annually with a S&W working at a state prison... They're efficient and effective for sure. Interesting how the units still issue revolvers for hospital duties but issue out M&P's to transport (bus duty) officers. I train with both and I'm acceptionally accurate with both striker and hammer fired pistols.
@boogathon
@boogathon 8 ай бұрын
@@mikematusek4233 Wanna trade her for mine, she couldn't hit the 10-ring at 25 feet...?
@DonaldMilligan
@DonaldMilligan 6 ай бұрын
I was in the Army for 25 years, and carried the 1911, and then the Berretta double action. But, in civilian life, I got a revolver for the no jams thingee. Again, as a civilian, there is little to no chance there will be a prolonged firefight, but there IS a chance of a no fire, or jam. That is why I carry the hammerless revolver. Just keep pulling the trigger.
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ 7 ай бұрын
I'm old now and have pretty much all the weapons that I want/need. But I sure wish your channel was around 40 years ago. I would have saved alot of money and heartache.😫
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