Don’t care (much) about Ezra Miller or what JK tweets about. The Fantastic Beasts movies failed because they are not about fantastic beasts.

For The Flash, the sheer number of delays and rewrites is understated here. Not to mention the inevitable comparisons to both the CW Flash series and the animated Flashpoint Paradox film. For the Marvels, you missed one very big factors: the fact that certain audiences felt robbed by the original Captain Marvel film as it had been set up as a necessary watch ahead of Avengers Endgame, thus pulling in over a billion dollars at the box office only for audiences to realize how little impact it had. With the main tie-ins for this film being three separate Disney+ shows, the only way that many people were coming to watch was if they expected that something in the story would permanently change the MCU as we know it.

"Strange World" had no advertising because nobody could describe what the film was to advertisers.

Fantastic Beasts 3 had so many issues that they didn't even mention Johnny Depp's recasting.

Aqua Teen movie entry is a stretch. It still made back 5 times its budget & pretty absurd to think such a bizarre IP would attract curious newbies.

Man, the level of reaching to justify the Marvels is damn near impressive.

I had never heard of a 2011 Winnie The Pooh movie until just now.

I love Speed Racer so ahead of its time it was awesome

What about MADAME WEB or MORBIUS? MORBIUS was doomed from the moment I saw AVI ARAD's name And MADAME WEB was doomed from the moment I saw it had the writers from MORBIUS

How many times does it have to be said. It's not superhero fatigue. It's shit movie fatigue.

Dune had it's issues but is still a good movie.

John Carter From Mars would have been great. If Disney had actually promoted the film. It is an amazing franchise and could have made billions if done right.

I have a soft spot for Lynch's Dune, as it was one of the first movies I saw without my folks at the cinema as a kid when it came out. What spoils it, apart from the rushed storytelling, is the ridiculous exposition-dump 'thought-narration'. Ludicrous. But that Third-Stage Guild Navigator in the tank at the start (a tacked on scene not in the book) almost makes up for it. Nightmare fuel, in a good way 😅

Marvel has been declining since Endgame.

Didn't anyone of the people working on the CGI for Cats realize how creepy it looked?

"Studios prioritize greed over paying their actors a living wage" I literally laughed out loud at that remark when talking about the marvels. Of the 3 main characters, Iman Vellani was paid the least, $550,000. Divide that by right in the neighborhood of 100 days of filming...$5,500 a day. Let's say she worked a 12 hour day (And we know she didn't) $458 + per hour...Oh no. How will she ever survive....

The 2011 Winnie The Pooh is the best Pooh Bear-related thing since The Many Adventurers back in the 70s. Crying shame that it didn't get more respect at the box office. Of course, on the other hand, who needs a box office when you play the long game as well as Disney? Back in the 80's, when I was Disney-aged, they brought two or three films from their back catalogue back to theaters every year- that's how I first saw 101 Dalmatians and The Aristocats. Disney+ is just the latest evolution of a strategy that went from that through The Disney Channel, VHS, DVD, and so on.

" The curse that is followed Disney for decades.... That they cannot get people to care about their sci-fi films" Is that really a "Curse" or just bullshit filmmaking or general incompetence?

I hated Speed Racer, as a kid who grew up on the original anime series. I liked Christina as Trixie, but the rest of the cast didn't work for me. And the Mach 6? Just saying. I am a fan, however, of Dune. It's kitschy, but kinda awesome. I know that there was a 2 part mini-series version of the movie that was run on television without Lynch's input that adds more world building.

1984 "Dune" may not have been the best film, but it gave us the duo of David Lynch and Kyle McLachlan. We may not have had "Twin Peaks" without it.

JK Rowling opinions are not why those movies failed. In fact, they failed for the opposite reasons. Many of the movies and franchises on this list were actually casualties of the same problem. And it’s not because there was a strike 😂

No such thing as superhero or Marvel fatigue. Mediocre movie fatigue is what the the issue is.

Speed Racer may have not be perfect, but its one of the few movies that actually felt like its source material.

I haven't seen The Marvels. I was looking forward to a second Captain Marvel movie. I like Brie Larson in the role. But I had no interest in the other Marvels, wasn't going to watch the TV shows to find out about them, and really wasn't that interested in another multiverse story. Maybe someday I'll get around to seeing it. It'll happen long before I see Cats, that's for sure!

David Lynch's Dune is a brilliant film. Makes me second guess everything else you put in this video, or even why I sub to this channel. :P

As a kid I didn't know that a lot movies were adapted from books. As i got a little older i thought the books came after movies. So for me I saw most if not all movies first, then heard about the books later if at all. So for Dune 1981 is awesome and pretty much anything else from that era. If you never heard about the books from any sources and only saw the movies, I'm sure you might have a better take them. If I wasn't a kid that grew up knowing everything about Venom from the comics I probably could appreciate Spider-Man 3. Unfortunately I have the books.

I love Speed Racer. When I worked at Blockbuster, I used to play it on the display PS3 in order to show people how good Blu-ray looked. Folks absolutely loved it.

Money for advertising Strange World went to promotion for Wakanada Forever. Disney figured that would be the bigger hit, and just threw the aminated film under the bus.

Funny that only the movies from Disney they defend with all not being their fault for making stories that are not good anymore a good movie nothing stop it from being successful because the real draw to cinemas is the word of mouth by people telling other the movie is soo good to pay the cinemas it has always been the truth

You're completely wrong about Strange World. If you went to the movies you saw a preview for it. I have no idea if they're actually had commercials on TV because I don't watch commercials but there were plenty of previews in the theater. The reason it failed was because it's a shit movie. I even walked out of the theater, it was so bad

you misused the term ''sword of damocles'' during the aqua teen hunger force part.

Speed racer is a classic! One of the BEST anime adaptations

Speed Racer is a great movie

Speed Racer is criminally underrated. I’m not a anime fan and have only vague knowledge about its source material. That said I love that movie. Sure it’s odd and I understand why it doesn’t get the respect it deserves. However, that shouldn’t take away from its stunning visual effects and overall quality. Just because “normal” folks don’t like movies of that genre, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be appreciated for what it is.

I saw Winnie the Pooh on its opening weekend and was saddened to see the paltry audience it drew. It was a very charming film made very much in the style of Disney’s first few ventures into the 100 Acre Wood. I left the theatre in good spirits that afternoon, something few films have ever done. I hope more people find it on Disney+ and grow to appreciate it as well.

The Borderlands movie is a prime example of a movie that belongs on this list even though its not out yet. It has all the signs. The movie was announced YEARS ago, yet the only time its ever been mentioned or brought up remotely was about twice? Or at least those were the only moments of memorable significance. One of them was during Gearboxs own presentation for the Borderlands games, They had Pitchford walking around the studio set showing a bunch of nothing and eluding to a bunch of stuff, but never really showed anything substantial. Somehow, even though Gearbox keeps hosting their very own presentation events, and supposedly has their own movie studio now, they havent brought up or mentioned the movie remotely since then. The only other promotion for the movie was some silhouette shots of the main characters. They also announced the release date of the move drop over a year in advance, but we never got a single visual teaser or trailer only until a couple months ago. Now the movie is about 4 months away and we still only have that one trailer to go off of.

love harry potter but fantastic beasts was carnage and not for jk rowlings opinions.

There was a dog in Strange World? I saw it in theaters and do not remember a dog at all.

I went to see the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie with my ex. When it was over, he asked me what he just watched.

dances with smurfs

I will always love Speed Racer. Loved it since day one. The Flash is also the only film in 2023 i wanted to see at the movies of 2023.

So, no Madame Web huh? Still fresh I guess...

I saw a fair amount of advertising for Strange World, months out from release.

For me, Artemis fowl was doomed from the start, not only because it couldn't be released on theaters, but also because it took to many freedoms from the source material and also because they gave us a poster of the movie too soon (that's a personal superstition of mine, but so far, it never failed my as a way to know when a movie is gonna bomb).

Why no madame Web, morbius (twice) ant man 3, indiana Jones

"The death of 2D animation in theaters can be traced to two fumbles on Disney's part". And of course there is the death of Star wars and the death of Indiana Jones..... Disney's expertise is clear😂

"Strange World" also had a homosexual teenager as a main character and they couldn't find a way to market it without possible blow back.

Widely categorized and living wage sound almost ironic the way they were used by the narrator in this video.

It's not "Marvel fatigue" that's the reason for Disney's failures. It's them putting their ideologies ahead of good storytelling/writing. If WC wants to comment on JK Rowlings, they should recognize that as well.

if you start the flash at 55 minutes and think of it a batman 89 movie it's pretty good

Hilarious that you blame the strike for the failure of "The Marvels" when there were easily a dozen far more likely reasons, with #1 being awful writing.

So much cope within the "explanations".

Yes... "lack of advertising" killed Strange World. Riiiiiiiight.

Did i hear him right? Did he say that studios dont want to pay their actors a liveable wage? Are we supposed to think that actors are underpaid by the studios???

The Marvels has some great moments and some wonderful performances, but it feels like a disney movie not a Marvel movie.

Someone isn't earning their paycheck. Dune writer Harlan Ellison?

I watched wtp in movie theaters. So funny

Speed racer is a guilty pleasure for me I mean it’s BAD but weirdly enjoy it

Wait a minute how do you listen to a blinking light on your dashboard?😊

Aqua teen hunger force is pure genius. It's one of the most original and unique cartoons I've ever watched. I can't think of many shows that have made me laugh as hard as ATHF,it's so messed up and hilarious,it seriously deserves so much more praise. One of adult swims very best.

It should be revealing how much money studios spend on marketing versus the actual artwork. They have to "sell" their product with every tactic they can in order to make a decent profit. But honestly, if they spent more time and money on actually good products they wouldn't have to lie and gaslight their audiences on why they flop.

I couldn't believe how bad The Flash was. I thought the reports and reviews were exaggerated. But then I saw it for myself and so wanted my time back. I liked Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck as both Batman and Bruce Wayne. Couldn't stand Ezra Miller as Flash. And then they went and put a second one in. 🤮

If you do this list again in a couple of years you can have Kraven, the next starwars film, fantastic four , capt America 4 to bame just 4

SPEED RACER was always a gamble in my view... I do like Anime and Manga, but Speed racer was never on my radar... I have seen the movie and for what its worth its enjoyable... But its no Yu-Gi-Oh! or Dragonball Z... It doesn't have the girt and punch of Vampire Hunter D... And other than die hard fans of the property, I dont think many of us - Including me a the time - Had ever heard of it! It reminds me of when someone did ASTROBOY, I had heard of Astroboy, but only because I adore watching Vintage KZfaq Channels that cover really old TV Shows and stuff... Speed Racer fell in to that category of a "Long Forgotten" And THE MARVELS, I have still not seen it... Not Marvel Fatigue though - My Son went to see it and was simply not impressed... And he is a Die Hard Disney/Marvel Defender... If he did not like it - There was something very wrong! I feel it did not help that not only was there Captain Marvel but Ms. Marvel... Who much as they try to spin it otherwise are NOT the most popular characters in the Marvelverse... Have not had any proper "Build up" ... Much as I enjoyed Captain Marvel as a Movie, It was badly written! I never cared about Carol Danvers as she more or less had everything handed to her on a silver platter! And Ms. Marvel being a Disney + Exclusive... The Causal Audience has no idea who she is... Bad Decisions... Simple as! The Infinity War was always going to be the BIG EPIC... Disney / Marvel Peaked far too soon! (Sorry but KANG THE CONQUERER is NEVER going to be as Epic as THANOS!!! Legal Issues not withstanding...)

John Carter was doomed partially from the failure of Mars Needs Moms. The original title was John Carter of Mars, which is way more intriguing a title than the vanilla sounding title we got, but it was deemed that anything mentioning Mars was box office poison. Enders Game was also doomed because of the gay community’s admonishing Orson Scott Card’s comments on gay marriage. You can argue that the last few DCEU movies were doomed by both the disorganization of the shared universe, the many lackluster films preceding them and the James Gunn announcement.

Fantastic Beasts failed for the biggest reason being that Johnny Depp was not in the movie and every time you saw the person replacing him he should have been called a different character

Say what you like, but for what it is, Speed Racer is fantastic! It knows what it is and doesn’t try to be anything else!

Lack of advertising didn’t hurt the marvels. Everyone knew it was coming, it was all the buzz online and no one wanted to see it. Actually, maybe advertising did affect it. There was no substance in the trailers, nothing to hook the audience into going to see it.

Thought you were poking fun at the Wachowski's calling them sisters till I did a Google check. Had no idea the Wachowski brothers were transgender women now.

The Marvels only did "well" on streaming because people wanted to see the cringe. From trailer 1 it looked god awful and the end result is only watchable with an FF button close at hand.

The marvels film wasn't great but it wasn't terrible like everyone was making out, in fact i preferred it over tge 1st one.

1A: the Borderlands movie

Haunted Mansion was doomed from the start. They decided to release it in July. Come on ppl.. BAD IDEA! Halloween is October. What about John Carter? It could have had a chance had they marketed it better as well. The Flash was doomed because the tv show was great and so was Grant Gustin who played the Flash. The animated Flashpoint Paradox movie was great as well. Nobody liked Ezra Miller and wanted him recast as they did to Johnny Depp and wanted Grant Gustin to play him.( Tv show ended by then) Even with Ezra in it the director was too scared to have Grant as a variant in it but had other tv actors from numerous shows in it. The Marvels was doomed because nobody wanted it. Nobody watched all the shows on Disney+ . Very few ppl liked Captain Marvel from the beginning. They probably only watched the 1st one as "homework" because they thought it was part of the Avengers. She had no personality in the movie and outside the movies had a bad attitude.

Strange World didn't flop cuz of lack of publicity. It flopped cuz it was awful

Why don't they do a tv series about the american hogwarts

It's pronounced "June" not " Doon".

Marvel's success on streaming? Babahahaha. Success??! Hahahahahahaha

Yeah you’re underestimating how bad the marvels was; just because people will watch something on a streaming service that doesn’t cost them extra doesn’t mean they would have paid to watch it in theaters under different circumstances if anything it proves what most that it should have been; a show to stream instead of a movie

Baywatch - a failed combination of Baywatch Nights & Son of a Beach.

The Marvels also had lots of "fanboys" and misogynists bombing the movie with hate. 😢

"a living wage"?

Literally the first (and only) time I've ever heard of Strange World

The Marvels really is a perfectly fine movie that leans more into the comic-book elements of the source. The political nonsense around Disney/Marvel certainly makes it hard for movies just to be what they are.

The biggest problem with original films is that studios are always afraid that it won't be successful, but they forget that Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and even Avatar, were all original films, based on other things, of course (Star Wars based loosely on Dune, Jurassic Park on a book of the same title, and Avatar being a science fiction retelling of the history of North and South America), but still original, not being a sequel to or remake of something else, and all three were the highest grossing movies of all time at one point.

I really liked Strange World

Calling Speed Racer one of their “best”? Can’t tell if that speaks to the decline of the Wachowskis’ bankability… or if he’s being sarcastic. I’m both a diehard anime fan and a fan of Speed Racer in particular & my sons were into anime and cars the year this came out. I immediately recognized it was a candy-colored dumpster fire, but I would’ve roughed it out if my kids liked it. They did not. Halfway through, both said it was dumb and they wanted to *leave*! Neither was over 10… which is why I assumed they’d be distracted by the spectacle. But even they weren’t fooled.

I disagree on the whole "advertising" fail being responsible for the failure of these movies. There is so much more here, that I'm beginning to wonder what sorta cognitive biases the writers of this video suffer from?

Mars needs mom's was better than tangled.

There are many reasons the Marvels fails, Superhero/Marvel fatigue isnt one. The movie have no direction. From the start you knew the Marvel movies were gearing up for something special with the Avengers ever since Iron Man started not only because they alluded to it, but also because it was alluded to in Incredible Hulk 2008, even though that movie is treated like its sorta, but not sorta, in the MCU, yet Iron Man kickstarted it but whatever. Point is, the movies always had a direction. We always knew it would build up to Thanos, and that they just needed to flesh out the characters beforehand. Now its aimless. We know a bunch of movies are coming, but to what point? The Eternals alluded to some big battle, but its seemingly only them doing it even though the world was at jeopardy, and somehow Galactus is being alluded to coming into play? Theres also the whole thing with Kang...theres so many directions and nobody knows whats going on. Brie Larson has become enemy number one. Not as bad by any means as Ezra Miller, but Brie has made a reputation for herself as someone whose trouble to work with and someone who the fandoms arent particularly fond of either. She got exposed for talking behind the backs of her Marvel co stars and it showed in interviews their relationships were a bit strained with her. It seems shes made it a point to make herself seem as annoying as possible, and unfortunately shes playing one of the biggest, and most powerful characters in Marvel and theres no switching her out, so people have just been taking to disliking the stuff shes in. The movies are just bad. Again, has nothing to do with fatigue, unless you mean fatigue of being forced to watch bad movies, then yes. Because if you want to keep up to date with the MCU, you eventually have to watch the movies or be lost, or you could result to just reading the wikias, but....eh. Good luck doing that, and having everything stick. Before the movies, even if some of them didnt have the best story writing, they were still enjoyable action packed popcorn flicks with decent homages. It even seemed like each heroes trilogy had their own unique themes to them. Now, they just all seem generically slotted and samey, with the movies not exactly sticking to their characters persona, but rather trying to ape the exact same formula they are all sharing.

Man I love these videos, but if Gareth keeps adding an extra syllable to certain words, I’m gonna have to walk away. 😆

Let's just hope and pray Disney doesn't attempt to remake the best movie it's ever made, Fantasia. If they do we must protest.

0:25 😂

Whatculture, stop uploading censored videos!

It certainly didn't help the Marvels to demonize 80% of the demographic interested in superhero movies

Speed Racer should have never been made like that.

The marvels have the same magnetic drew like barbi and openhaimer it's marvel it was not a movie to watch on cinemas just free on the service you already paying it's just that don't try to defend it that much

No X-Men: Dark Phoenix? It was a follow up to what was then the worst entry in the franchise. It was released after Disney purchased Fox which basically let everyone know that this series was going to be rebooted & therefore kinda pointless. Its biggest star, Jennifer Lawerence basically phoned it in, refusing to wear the blue makeup for most of her scenes. It was made by a first-time director. It got terrible reviews. And it was released at the MCU's peak, when Marvel was sucking all the oxygen out of the room when it came to the discourse & attention around superhero movies.

Wait, what?!?! Brie Larson was paid $5,000,000 for Captain Marvel!!! Based on that alone your ridiculous comment about not paying actors a living wage is beyond idiotic! WhatCulture just lost what credibility it had...

Enjoyed the 1st Fantastic Beasts film.

mcu went to 💩 after Infinity War and took a giant 💩 on Stan Lee's legacy after he died.