I loved that

Hyy

"The Rebirth of a Man in the Heart of a Dying Sun". that's what the final of that comic makes me think

Love All Star Superman

All-Star Superman.....just gets me right in the feels every time.

Its true he is just fixing the sun

David Siqueira Agreed, it’s mentioned in Batman #49

It wasn't adapted, it was always in continuity

This comic was always in continuity. It was designed as a vehicle to retire Babs as Batgirl by DC and Alan needed a character to motivate Batman into action so Len Wein gave him Babs. DC didn't think the bronze age optimistic Congresswoman who moonlighted as a crimefighter made sense in this new Post Crisis, grunge and crime ridden Gotham City or its tortured avenger. DC certainly marketed this story as belonging in continuity, look at the trade ads. It was advertised as the Origin of the Joker in solicitations and the "definitive" Joker story in advertisements within the comics shipped during late 87-early 88. As for killing the Joker, that's not true either. Alan has flat out said its not true. The script pages that were publicly released also have no mention of Batman breaking the neck of Joker, or strangling him. The Dark Knight's hand placed on his shoulder. The lack of characters in the final panels is meant to illustrate passage of time. The police show up, take Joker into custody, and drive off, the remaining sounds is that of the falling rain. The death of Joker would negate the point of the story. The killing Joke is nothing more than a metaphor for Batman and Joker's twisted relationship, that they are destined to do the dance they do for eternity. Its really a commentary on comics and their refusal to execute their cash cows. You cannot kill the Joker because he's a fan beloved character, same with Batman and this is reflected within the story.

Trans8010 I agree with you in the long run, but when the comic first came out dc didn’t state that it was in continuity, only after a while when the comic became well know dc was like “ oh yeah, it was always in continuity “ but then again I could be wrong and dc always wanted for it to be in continuity.. 🤷‍♂️

@@davidsiqueira2996 You are wrong. Plain and simple. The month this comic was released there was also a one shot that illustrated the retirement of Babs as Batgirl. Look for Batgirl Special 1988. This issue was published because Alan Moore was going to cripple Batgirl, and DC wanted to retire the character. When Jason Todd is killed you see Babs in a wheelchair and references to that story throughout the year of 1988. This book was canon at inception.

Agreed! Saint Barry! Three miracles all at once. He made Batman cry, smile, and say thank you.

So true. Among so many chiling climaxes in flashpoint. This was the most amazing one.

Didn't he cry a little? owo

I only saw the movie but I was tearing up at that.

Bro feels

Well, he didn't intend it like that but it can be interpreted that way since it's open-ended.

@@totallynotzokix11_mc21 Except it's not. The Killing Joke is not an Elseworlds oneshot. It was very clearly in continuity.

Actually Moore said that Batman did kill joker but it’s because it was a one-shot comic and then it was made canon by dc and they changed it to where bat didn’t kill joker.

Let's go home and dream about the future...

I don't get it

Pearce Golding it’s a long Halloween twist u gotta read. I won’t spoil it.

@@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL ill be sure to check it out if it's that good thanks bro

Pearce Golding it’s very good I recommend it

@@pearcegolding3544 Not that my opinion matters, but it's in my list of the top 5 Batman stories. It is one of the better showings of Batman's detective side without the heavy reliance on gadgets. It also rounds up a good amount of the better-known characters in his rogues gallery. Jeph Loeb (writer) and Tim Sale (artist) are an amazing combination.

victikirby15 All Star Superman made me like Superman. Completely sold me on him as a character and how others view him and are inspired by him. One of my favourite books ever.

@The Unbeatable no

burger king foot lettuce

DC should make an action figure of Stephanie Brown wearing the blue lantern ring

What comic is that from?

Definitely not Batman issue 7 or 8 I believe

@@Sereomontis its doomsday clock

I was shaking after reading that, it was so perfectly paced that moment.

Lol I thought that was a meme. (My first time reading this sorry)

best line in that comic for me is when Joker is all like- Something like that happened to me you know. Not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one, sometimes I remember is another. If I'm going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice." That gave me the chills.

@Nospam Spamisham only you're talking complete bollocks, Batman never fucked Batgirl in the book and only takes the Joker in because Commissioner Gordon tells him to bring him in by the book. And the book was not canon.

Well its canon now

Nospam Spamisham, You haven't read A Killing Joke, have you? Because Batman doesn't sleep with Batgirl at all in that book. Also, Joker doesn't "gang rape" Batgirl after paralyzing her, he stripped her naked and took pictures of her to drive Gordon mad. He also doesn't rape Gordon, and nowhere in the book is it ever implied that he did. Hell, not even in the animated movie version of the book, which is really just two stories in one movie, since the first half of that film isn't even the Killing Joke, but instead its own story that has nothing to do with the source material, implied that Gordon was raped by Joker. And yes, you can say that the film version implied Joker raped Barbara, it was already denied by one of the producers of the film, Bruce Timm, that the scene people are using to say Joker raped Barbara, the scene with Batman interrogating some prostitutes, was meant to imply anything like that. And even if the person who wrote the film, which was not the author of the actual book but instead some guy named Brian Azzarello (Who has a weird fascination with making Joker a rapist). That fact alone means you can't say what is implied in the film is what happens in the comic.

kosaba11 that guy clearly never read Killing Joke but it is implied that Joker rapes (not gang rapes) Barbra in the books. At least that’s the impression I got from it. I could be wrong the last time I read it was at least 15 years ago.

Yeh suits it little to well at times

There is people angrier and besides he a little shit so he doesn't deserve one.

@@DHworldwide185 he is a little shit. I prefer him dead anyway and when it did finally happen they brought him back. God I miss the Bruce Wayne and Tim Drake days.

Christopher Sanchez He has some attributes but you’re right 100%

Foster Azmodan what happened

@@Sam-oe4dt Batman leaves the Justice League after finding out that Zatanna mind-wiped him.

the ending of Hickman's saga is better if you have read his FF books

I don't know because I didn't read the killing joke

@@bubbybb9704 can't you also take it either way since all we saw was Batman grab Joker, for all we know he could've kneed Joker in the gut and slammed him to the ground, knocking him out. I think the reader can take it either way. He also could've grabbed him by the shoulders and slowly have his fingers crawl to his neck and snap it.

Because at that point he's had enough, the joke Joker told and what that ultimately meant tells you why Batman would kill him.

It's left for interpretation. In my opinion, he did but my explanation would be too long to describe due to foreshadowing. The joke at the end is meant to be left as mysterious when the light beams are turned off before we see if he crosses the line.

The final joke about the two insane people the Joker tells him at the end basically tells Batman why he must kill Joker once and for all. Two completely insane people can not coexist with each other.

@Remo Stopka I'm not familiar with that storyline. You've picked my interest and I may have to check it out. I'm assuming that this predates the New Teen Titans(Wolfman & Perez) since you reference it as OG Titans.

@@sixdollarman1362 no, the OG TITANS HUNT storyline. There was the N52 version and the Wolfman version; Wolfmans is the original. The characters killed off (at the time) were Jericho, Danny Chase, Arella, and Raven. Jericho turned heel out of bloody nowhere and it destroyed the titans team.

@@Remholder Thanks Man! Still sounds cool. I'll see if I can get a trade paperback of it.

@@sixdollarman1362 I dont think theres a TPB of that storyline, but it's around issues 80-95

What issue is this?

@@JC111414 Teen Titans: Changling vs. Terminator is the direct sequel to Teen Titans: The Judas Contract. And is considered by many fans to be the quintessential Beast Boy storyline.

@@derrickhaggard I have to read it. But do you know what issue is it? Like the number?

He's said it more than once, just Google it.

@@JudeMarchisio I have Googled it and got nothing more than it's open to the readers interpretation. Feel free to send a link here in Alan Moore's words that say Batman kills the Joker at the end of the Killing Joke. And good luck with that. When that happens, I will happily admit I am wrong.

@@JudeMarchisioI'm not surprised that you haven't responded. Such a link doesn't exist, does it? I would recommend not basing an opinion on a poorly researched video. While I find some of these videos on this channel entertaining, it's not the first time the facts just aren't there to support statements. This is just the first time I've said anything and it makes me wonder about trusting information presented here on subjects that I'm not as familiar with.

Six DollarMan honestly I have heard it around before online however I am also not a expert so feel free to make your own opinion

@@gw4792We've all heard rumors online. That does not make it the authors intent, which is the proof I am asking for, based on what this video says.

It's not about dark. When you start a cinematic universe you must have a clear vision of what the lore of this character is all about. The MCU took some inspiration from the ultimate comics but Feigie understood the Marvel lore very well. He had one specific vision that fits the characters. Marvel are human becoming icons well the MCU took nobody and made them A lister. The tune of each character varies as it should be. It does not make sense for Thor to be more grounded like Captain America. The DCEU didn't have any of this. Zack snyder vision was based on his own opinion on the genre. And that's why it failed.

jason tripney no because Batman lives on in comics afterwards

Yes that how the law works

He did kill The Joker, when it was first released it was a one shot issue, it didn't become cannon until later after it became so popular.

He got a big sweaty hog that just won't quit

This was a recent edict from Dan Didio.

Thankfully Superman gave the biggest middle finger to that rule.

Well I mean some aspects of the Nolan films are taken from those two comics.

Don't know. Never read batgirl.

Because of what happened to Stepth.

Wait what. He needs a katana ring.