Ten forward was named because of its location on the ship. Trying to shoehorn a reference in decades later doesn't change that.

The Dyson sphere Scotty found should spawn an entire series just dedicated to exploring the sphere. The ramifications to the its discovery should be incredible to the trek timeline.

I always thought the Borg time travel was a closed loop, to explain why the Borg we're headed to Earth, since, if Q is to be believed, they were already headed to Earth anyway, and he just introduced the Enterprise D to them to make the crew aware of what was coming.

10:23 - #2 (The Destroyed Borg Sphere from First Contact) - In my mind, this episode actually helps explain events that already exist in canon. In Star Trek - The Next Generation S1 E26 "The Neutral Zone" (26-Mar-2364), the Borg have been busy destroying outposts along both sides of the Federation/Romulan "Neutral Zone", we never see the Borg in that episode, just the aftermath. We later learn in S2 E16 "Q Who" (28-Jan-2365) that the Borg was the enemy back in "The Neutral Zone" (Which means if Q hadn't flung the Enterprise to meet the Borg, the Borg would still have tried to assimilate the Federation. Q let them know about the Borg and gave them time to come up with plans to stop the Borg (Ex. The USS Defiant)). The Borg then reappeared in S3 E26 "The Best of Both Worlds - Part 1" (31-May-2366) and S4 E1 "The Best of Both Worlds - Part 2" (05-Jun-2366). While "Q Who" answered questions raised in "The Neutral Zone" the question came up, why was the Borg there? A partial explanation comes in Star Trek - Voyager S4 E6 (11-Feb-2374) in which Tuvok scans the USS Raven (NAR-32450) and tritanium decay places it as being there for almost the last 20 years. Which means 7 of 9 was assimilated around 11-Feb-2354, or 10 years before the events of "The Neutral Zone". But more questions are raised. Her parents had heard whispers about the Borg and had gone to Starfleet to secure a ship (The USS Raven) to find them. Furthermore, they find a Borg ship and follow it from the Alpha Quadrant to the Delta Quadrant. All this means that about 11 years before "Q Who", the Borg had explored Federation space, and assimilated 7 of 9 and her parents. (So those 'fans' who still think Q introduced the Borg to the Federation are once again proven wrong). But it still raised the question, why was the Borg exploring Federation space back in 2354? They had no reason to. When you watch the episodes in order, you notice the Borg are exploring, but not outright engaging in ship to ship battle, unless provoked (By the USS Raven). It's as if they were told to come check out Federation space and they checked it out before sending a ship to assimilate the Federation. Then we take the final piece of the puzzle in Star Trek Enterprise S2 E23 "Regeneration" (01-Mar-2153) as a message is sent from the Borg survivors to the collective in the Delta Quadrant. They explain the message won't get to them for 200 years. Which would be around 01-Mar-2353. The year before 7 of 9 was assimilated. Now the loop is closed and it all starts to make sense. Including why the Borg went back in time. Picard assumed it was to stop First Contact. In reality they had 2 goals (Try and stop First Contact and Send the message to the Borg so they will get the message on 01-Mar-2353 and assimilate 7 of 9)

3 - One minor correction. It was actually the specific radiation emitted by their new experimental warp drive that caused them to break down; they were functioning just fine before that point. It was projected to be harmless to humans and the like, but because they forgot they were made from 'the silver blood', they were unaware of its effects on their specific construction. Since the ship was also made from this mimetic substance, it was affected just as severely. It's actually pretty depressing that the ship and its crew were so completely destroyed, leaving no record of their existence beyond any contact they might have had with other races, but even that would be attributed to the original Voyager crew (though they'd have no memories or record of it, of course).

The Ten Forward thing is just unforgivable hubris on the part of the "Picard" writing staff.

The middling episode ‘The Price’ TNG season 3 ends up forming the underpinnings of two spinoffs: the importance of stable wormholes, which leads into DS9, and the idea of being stranded in the Delta Quadrant, which leads to ‘Voyager.’ Plus the Barzans pop up again on ‘Discovery.’ All buried in a ‘Troi gets laid’ episode.

I think the vehicle replicator is just something they came up with to retroactively justify why Voyager had an endless supply of shuttle craft.

10 Forward was called 10 Forward before Guinan was on the Enterprise.

With all the time travel, it makes me realize that Guinan - all this time - was carrying some crazy secrets while on the Enterprise in TNG. Imagine working a bar on a ship full of people that you already met multiple times in the past due to them time traveling, and in order to keep things stable, she has to pretend she doesn't even know.

Damn Im a star trek nerd. For the record. That silver blood species was perfectly capable of living other places than a Demon Class planet. The fatal mistake they made was exposing themselves to radiation created by their modified warp core. They thought they would be fine because the radiation was harmless to humans. It ended up killing them all.

Speaking of that revelation about all those alpha quadrant species being related because of shared genetic markers, it could have been brought up in "Distant Origins" as a counterargument before the realization that humans and voth shared way more genetic markers than the ones discussed in TNG

Worf's winning of poker in, "The Emissary" was so important. Noone realized that Worf would never again win a poker game in TNG nor DS9.

I like to think the Ancient Humanoids revealed in The Chase eventually evolved into the Changelings/Founders of the Dominion since the Ancient Humanoid and Female Changeling were both played by Salome Jens.

One alternative theory I have about the Borg episode actually addresses an issue with Q's character. In the episode of TNG, Q flings the Enterprise D at the Borg and they now know about the vast new area of assimilation targets from the computer and are headed toward the Alpha Quadrant. With just that information, Q is a pompous arrogant prick who caused the deaths of everyone who died during the conflict with the Borg because Picard wouldn't grovel. With the Enterprise episode, we see that the Borg get a signal off and that they will be alerted to the Alpha Quadrant. That means that they didn't learn about the Alpha Quadrant's population because of the Enterprise D. They were likely already on the way there and Q knew this. Q has shown time and time again that, while his methods may seem chaotic and barbaric, everything that he does is for the betterment of life overall (or at least humanity overall). This didn't mesh with the idea that he would create a conflict with the Borg out of spite but it fits perfectly with the idea that he was warning Picard of what was coming and dressed it up as a lesson in humility. The only issue with this theory that I can find is that the Borg were only on Earth in the past because of the events in First Contact which only happened because Q launched the Enterprise D at the Borg, but that issue is solved by the whole thing being one big temporal loop.

If I remember correctly from an episode of Space Docks, a galaxy class ship has a lot of empty space so that it can be modified easily to fit in new labs, areas for the crew and so on. So Ten Forward could have been one of these areas modified.

No, nothing from Picard season 2 is important.

It’s things like this 10 Forward origin story that just want me to shake my head. It’s like Star Trek is reminiscing in the past instead of boldly going to create a new future, without having to reinvent existing canon.

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Every moment is Golden to me. Even all the new and different shows and movies. I just enjoy and DGAF what the internet people think or say. LLAP.

N0.3 9:50 actual fact is they stated to degrade because of the enhanced warp drive not that the silver blood could not survive off a 'demon' class planet. The enhanced warp drive was non toxic to humans but was to them. They tried to find a 'demon' class planet hoping it would stop the damage.

1 of the things pointed out in this is the EMH doctors exploration of his humanity & subsequent expansion of his programming. This is a common trope added into Star Trek story arcs. It is the whole Pinocchio man "I wanna be a real boy" story. Spock, Data, Odo, the EMH all have arcs based on this story premise. The reason they continue to do it is it is enduring & absolutely engrossing. What I mean to say is we enjoy watching it unfold!

9. Industrial replicators are a thing. Have been since the 90s. They came up frequently when talking about emergency support for recovering colonies/planets/societies. 4. Iconion Teleporters could cover 40,000 lightyears.

12:20 - NOBODY seems to mention that for some reason Guinan doesn't recognise Picard in 2024 when we all know she first met him in1889. PLOT HOLE!!!

In the Naked Now, Data wasn't affected by the intoxication until after the intimacy with Tasha Yar. His being affected didn't lead to the intimacy. The intimacy led to him being infected.

Data and Yar's "romance"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Didn't the silver blood copies of voyager start disintegrating because of a modified warp drive? B'elanna dying first because she was the closest to the earp drive?

The androids of Mud's planet. I always wanted to see Data interact with them.

There was a whole time travel two parter in Voyager called Future’s End. This wasn’t the last time travel episode, as there was also Relativity. In both, we see Captain Braxton as the man who wants to destroy Voyager. In the first, he’s under orders because the ship’s hull is found amid a destroyed solar system in the future. In the later episode, he has planted a bomb on Voyager and complains that he blames the ship and crew for some awful life experiences. Another officer does comment that Voyager shows up on sensors too often. This whole thing opens up many questions: at what point does Starfleet start policing the timeline, to what extent did they play a role in the Temporal Cold War in Enterprise and how are they choosing when to intervene or not?

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What always amazed me is how people kept "catching up" to voyager even with voyagers high speed, but even the slowest enemies catch them up with very little effort.

6:18 Fully functional and programmed with many techniques **shows footage of sign language hand gestures** well played editor. Well played.

2:00 I don't know what they're telling here but industrial replicators were mentioned multiple times throughout Trek, especially with the Dominion trying to get a foothold on Bajor

I may be wrong, but I believe the replicators need more than energy, they also need material mass. I seem to remember the replicator use on Voyager being limited to only so much per person and it took more of that measure to replicate something made of gold, a more dense material. Voyager wasn't rationing energy, they had enough to function with al the ship's abilities, but they did not have material or mass on hand to use to be replicated. I also remember there being certain materials that were not able to be replicated. This is because of their specific structure not the amount of energy needed. This is what makes Dilithium Crystals and Latinum worth so much, because unlike gold or platinum they can't be replicated. If it was only a matter of energy then this should not be true. There is also a major flaw in continuity that Guinan looked young in Picard when she looked the same when they met her in San Francisco in 1890's, and she didn't remember Picard even tho she had met him before. This is not a problem if Picard happened in an alternate timeline but so far nothing else has indicated that this is true.

I always felt bad for the Demon Voyager crew, they deserved better.

6:21 hahahah "... in many techniques." *Shows frantic high speed hand gestures* Funny editing choice holy crap

2:40 the TNG techmanual mentions that Galaxy class starships can build replacement shuttle craft while on deep space asignments and voyager never ran out of standard shuttle craft and even built two delta flyers. 9:50 the enhansed warp drive was what was cousing to degeneration of the ship and crew not being away from the demon class planet.

I feel like the ten forward thing is just a very, very dumb case of retroactive continuity. Picard did that a Lot, in ways that were very stupid. Or, in the case of Icheb, ways that were kind of funny, because seriously, Manu is a douchecanoe. The show could never decide if it wanted to celebrate Trek's past, or be really quite stupid about it, and while the general feeling in Trek pre-Voyager was that the admiralty was ALWAYS awful, it was a pretty clear analogy to the entire series when the admiral decided to give a full shitslinging to the hero of Sector 001.

the computer's releasing of Michael was a nod to the first of the three laws of robotics.

That video cut with “fully functional and programmed in multiple techniques” 😆😆

For the last one there's another theory: That she specifically went looking for ships that had a bar in Ten Forward.

That's ridiculous the spatial trajector, is more like Iconian tech from TNG. Plus we never learned who the Iconians enemies were. Could it have been the Borg? And the queen took the long range transporter. Which looked identical!

The last one about ten forward, both can be true. She had a bar at ten forward avenue and later she ran the bar at ten forward. When she started (at) the one on the enterprise she might’ve known she was meant to be there.

For the 10 Forward thing, it's also possible someone mentioned the name of the Bar in the TNG episode that sent them back to the past and met the Guinan native to that period in time. Perhaps making it more of a little note that she did know who Picard was...

The Enterprise D was designed to be completely modular meaning entire sections of the ship could be removed and replaced to suit different missions. It is entirely possible that the 10-Forward bar was just a module that had been designed well after the rest of the ship was built.

What I can't understand or forgive is that in "Star Trek: Picard" Guinan doesn't know who Picard is in the 21st Century in L.A., but that's impossible because they actually met more than a hundred years earlier in San Francisco. Guinan should've known exactly who Picard was the second he walked into her bar! I'm not convinced that the writers completely forgot about that two-part episode from TNG either because they seemed to capitalize on the fact that we (as the viewers) would not question Guinan's presence on Earth in the 21st Century since we already learned of her presence there in the 19th Century during the original TNG series.

The words "Star Trek" & "important" going together are vastly hilarious.

In spite of the grim nature of Course: Oblivion, I've always enjoyed it.

Or the bar at 10 Forward Ave served the area for so long that when the Galaxy class was designed, the people in charge of designing the ships put the social rec area on the forward side of the 10th deck as an homage to the place they and the crew frequently visited on Earth. A little piece of home, away from home.

That Time travel ark in Season 2 of STP is kind of a mess. It has inconsistencies with its own established rules, let alone the continuity errors it has with the established Alpha Timeline, im convinced it was Q just making sh*t up as he went along and wasn't really in same universe as TNG. It setting place in 2024 was clearly to save money by not having to make sets and costumes, so much so they even retconned the sh*t out of the Eugenics Wars among a LOT of other established lore for this era. They just not only didn't know anything about the bare minimum of established lore (including that 10-Forward was named after the section of the ship it was on), they didn't care, its bad writing. Heck, In Season 1 long before she was a part of the crew, its still referred to as 10-Forward. Its called 10-forward because its on Deck 10, Front of the ship. This is almost as stupid as the Han Solo last name debacle. STP is just glorified fan-faction, minus the "fan" part.

Fun fact: The message that the Borg send at the end of the Enterprise episode was actually the same message picked up by the collective by the time of First Contact, which prompted the events of the movie.

That bit with the Sikarian transporter immediately bothered me because it was explicitly stated that it only worked in proximity to their planet.

Don't waste your mental strength on all the head canon and excuses for the 10 Forward bar in the 21st century. It was simply the writers being sloppy or not understanding Trek history.

The Ten Forward backstory. Reason #87 why ST:Picard is a raging dumpster fire.

I lost it when you juxtaposed Data being "fully functional" with him learning a sign language. Damn, Data... those are all gestures for sex positions??

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You guys left out a few things what about the Iconians and their doorways to anywhere technology that Both Picard and Sicko had to destroy? also, the time portals depicted in the episode in all of our yesterdays from TOS? There's the aliens from the 5th dimension from Voyager who turned out to be sentient holograms from a holographic universe the Slaver's Stasis box and the slaver's weapon, I would say is fairly significant since according the Spock a belt found inside a box became the basis for artificial gravity fields on starship. Before that we knew they had Grav plating from Enterprise which sometimes failed. and the fact that Kinglons have always known about time travel and have chosen to NEVER use it. then there's the Kzinti on lower deck, don't those guys eat people and there's a treaty forbidding them from carrying any kind of weapons and yet there is one serving in Starfleet aboard the USS Cerritos If I had the time, i'd do a deeper dive but I just remember these

Regarding the Borgpsehere it was a self fulfilling prophecy. Or how do we explain that the Borg ere already on their way towards teh alpha quadrant in the TNG episode where Q transported the Enterprise to the Borg. It all has happend and it all will happen again. ;)

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2:56 they should of called this episode Honey I Shrank The Runabout LOL

Guinan met Data, Picard, Riker, La Forge, Troi, and Crusher in 1893, and Data explained their future meeting. Thus she may have been aware that she will run a bar in Ten Forward on the future, thus specifically selecting the bar on earth for it's peculiar location.

7 is an interesting one... what would have happened if a mind meld was attempted on Data? How what that have factored into the "Measure of a Man" episode had it been done? Or worse, if it was found impossible to do on Data?

Never mind all that. Just notice the NX Enterprise on Picard's desk in the introduction. Is that the refit version?

That vehicle replicator could explain how Voyager managed to get through so many shuttles when it should have ran out of them sometime around season 2 😂

Just remember, in her message to be played in case of death. Tasha did tell Data it did happen. It might have been more to assure him he did nothing wrong by misreading her words on "it didnt happen" but perhaps she was just embarrased and Data hadnt grown enough to deal with that sort of emotion yet.

9:39 felt weird though because they wanted to stay there and were granted permission by janeway to stay back on the planet. These were really important moments for them. Still they forgot that. No idea how the mud was also able to duplicate voyager though. Everyone forgot everything ?! Went aboard and left the planet ?! Did anyone actually decided to stay behind here as well like inn one episode where some of the crew decided to stay behind ? Not to mention what happened to that crew was also never mentioned again, yet. Maybe the person who got transformed into creatures like janeway and tom paris was from that planet trying to get home ??

I was always curious about the androids and/or robots that they ran into a few times in the original series with captain Kirk was never any follow up On this incredible technology! Data didn't even inquire/ Reference about it?

Star Fleet has the powerful plot armour around

Looks like no one really remembers the Iconians. The concept of long distance transporter technology did appear in both Star Trek The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine. Long story short, there was an alien race called Iconians that developed a means of travel where someone could instantly transport from one point in space to another regardless of distance. Picard and his crew encountered it in the Alpha Quadrant and Sisko and his crew encountered it in the Gamma Quadrant. In a way, I guess its information like this that really shows who is a true follower of Star Trek and who is not.

Thank you Ellie for this interesting list. Good job TrekCulture team for putting it together.

the vehicle replicator on the Protostar....well now we know where Voyager kept getting shuttle craft from

Fun Fact: The position of the windows in Ten Forward. Indicate that it's actually on Deck 9.

"A mistake by the writers" sums up the Picard series pretty nicely.

The Enterprises' ten forward would have been a socal gathering place due to the view it provides. It could have just as easily been split up into senior officers quarters, or the bridge.

One other thing to consider is that 10 Forward is actually a chain of bars and restaurants throughout the galaxy. We have sponsorship right now in our society, why wouldn’t they have it in the future? Just consider it a recruiting tool for the Federation. Every ship comes with a TGI 10 Forward!

Course: Oblivion might be the episode of VOY that I've thought about the most over time.

The bar was named Ten Forward because of what happened in Generations. Guinan coming into contact with the Nexus...a point in contact with all points in time (remember Guinan telling Picard he could leave it and go to any point he wanted?). The Nexus is like traveling at warp 10...at warp ten you touch all points in the universe simultaneously...infinite speed. In the Nexus, you touch all points in time simultaneously...infinite knowledge of time and it's flow. The limit then becomes the traveler...how much can you retain? How much can you understand? In Guinan's case she kept quite a bit and it seems to have stayed with her in present, future AND past.

The Guinan thing was just... slop. She doesn't have just "time sensing powers", she has "time _line_ sensing powers." Despite the fact that, in that particular timeline, she wouldn't have met Picard in the 1800s, she would still have been aware that she _should have_ known him, as per the capabilities she demonstrates in "Yesterday's Enterprise" when she knows that the timeline is wrong.

It might never again have been mentioned that all humanoid life forms in the galaxy share a common ancestor, but it does explain why they can interbreed so much.

My favorites are TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I must have watched them all though a hundred times before I realized the connecting thread. In TNG there was that episode where Picard worked out a way for the native Americans to stay on their settlement planet even though the treaty they signed gave it to Cardassia. In DS9 they introduced the Maquis which was also a big part of Voyager. At one point watching DS9 I thought "Hey that guy looks like a native American.". It wasn't until then that I realized they were the same people from that episode. Yeah so I'm slow to catch on. What can I say? But it's cool how that one episode guided the storylines of three separate shows.

2:30 WRONG... DS9 did it first... INDUSTRIAL replicators were first mentioned in the episode about Risa.. and then again for the planet Bajor to be used in the farming provinces.. these HUGE replicators were meant for creating large industrial equipment.. last time I looked.. farming equipment WAS HUGE.. way bigger than some piddly little comic book store buggy..

If I dont buy into the Kelvin timeline then why would I care or even watch Discovery??? or the others... Am I the only one??? This is a well produced and voiced video as well as being very professional and I tip my cap but if I may ask....Why cant we just stick to the "actual" cannon of Trek I.E. before the B.S. where they decided to rewrite the entire lore of Star Trek.

The EMH remains one of my favourite arcs for a TV character in any show, perhaps one of the most interesting ever, and it wasn't ever on the cards. The writers intended Neelix to be the breakout character, but oh my, Picardo stole that without a second thought lol

In the episode "Loud as a Whisper" Riker calls up to Geordi from down on the planet and requests the replication of a large stone table and several torches for the negotiation area. There were definitely large scale replicators that we never saw on screen in TNG on the Enterprise-D, well before Prodigy (but granted, maybe not but enough to replicate a vehicle).

That scene with the ethical computers shows how far out of touch from the source material. Since the computer is used when firing weapons it is taking lives whether offensively or defensively. Second why would the federation allow such a huge error in a system that would put all members of a ships crew in danger since the computer can be swayed to release a prisoner. Plus they ripped her going thru space out of the Starwars movie. This just goes to show that the writers are truly worthless when it comes to haven original thoughts. Plus the fact that the writers have made both gender and race more important then it should be. Please stop with all the crap and come up with some original material that is enjoyable to watch as opposed to the tripe the serve us now. If you are unable to be original then quite since you are a detriment to society qas a whole and would serve the human race more by giving a shotgun a blow job.

I first saw a large scale replicator in star trek Enterprise years ago. It was used to repair the ship after the damage sustained in romulan mine field, if I recall correctly.

RE: #5: in Star Trek: Picard, we saw one of the Soong-type androids initiate a mind meld with the human Dr. Jurati, proving that they are self aware, and sentient beings in their own right.

I just realized Burnham was able to survive exposure to raw space. *adds that to her mary sue card*

10 Forward WAS named for the Enterprise D Deck ten, forward. Not becasue of some bar. Remember Picard is a non-canon series, so anything shown on the show is not correct.

That's what you get when you have tons of writers sharing the same property, they treat it like a stolen car.

as far as the demon planet one. i could swear it was the warp core that caused their destruction.

DS9 mentioned industrial replicators long before Prodigy.

My head cannon is that the protostar’s vehicle replicator’s prototype was on Voyager & it explains why they had so many shuttles

Remember, Guinan met Picard 131 years before this in 1893. Any one of the Enterprise crew could have mentioned the name "Ten Forward" near her, and it stuck in her head. (I can't recall if it was mentioned on-screen during those 2 episodes).

The Demon Class Voyager crew thing was full of holes. The crew could only survive in their own atmosphere. Surely they would have noticed that on their own. Also, when transporting/shuttling down to any planet with different air, they would have suffered or died regardless of the of their own enhanced warp drive

The ten forward couldve just been a happy coincidence, and was a smile worthy quirk that Guinan could laugh about. "We have a position for you if you want it, as the manager of the bar." "Where is it on the ship?" "Its on the tenth floor, forward on the saucer. You have a great view of the space ahead." "So... its ten...forward?" Smile No other significance

I still like the idea that it was just happenstance, she really liked her years there, perhaps it's also a thing outside her control (just things follow them, things they can sense and things they can't, some of them even right in front of their face), but given the chance to make a bar in the Enterprise, she had to go with 10-forward

In the Star Trek Enterprise episode Regeneration, they said that the message sent by the Borg would take over 200 years to reach its destination in the Delta Quadrant, implying that the Borg Cube originally sent to Earth in First Contact was responding to that signal.

replicating vehicles in our own galaxy would be like selling ice to Inuits.

(6:20) Nice juxtaposition of the hand signs with the "multiple techniques" dialogue. Oh yes...we know what you were doing there.