Actually Bringing back Steven TAylor as a Cow seems pretty cool. They could have milked that one for all it's worth.

I'm glad we got the sarah jane adventures instead of a series about the doctor growing up at the academy on gallifrey! The sarah jane adventures remains so iconic for me, I loved growing up watching it! Thanks for this Ellie and Who Culture! 😊😊

Naming a child after a road and pointing at a sign for nobody to see. Oh wait...

Plot Twist: Mrs. Flood *REALLY* is Meglos 😂😂😂

How about making The Doctor be the whole template for Timelord DNA and the origin for regeneration?

Tom Baker coming back for the TV movie wouldn't have been the end of the world for canon, hopefully it would be explained similarly to how David Tennant returning was but it's a rocky way to try and bring Doctor Who back too much relying on the golden days. And I hope we get to see the Ruminant one day, even if it's in some alternate Unbound universe.

There was another spinoff series that only got a pilot and if I remember correctly, it was supposed to be a spinoff of the K9 spinoff of Dr. Who called K9 and company back in 1981.

"Give me all you got! There are no terrible ideas" "Guess I was wrong, there are terrible ideas."

A Doctor Who cartoon set in it's own unique continuity actually sounds pretty cool. If the late great Dwayne McDuffie was still with us, he would have been an Ideal show runner too! RIP

Your writers need to pay more attention. #8 The Toclafane. How can you say that would've been a terrible idea, but just last year you said that was an awesome idea?? What a stupid mistake.

Was the Steven turning into a cow a reference to the famous 1st Doctor quote about “a space helmet for a cow”? If so I appreciate it Russell lol.

"Rose Tyler Defense" would have made an interesting acronym for a show run by Russell T. Davies.

Wait, so in your "Awesome Ideas that nearly happened" video, you said the Toclofane would have been a great idea for Series 1 to take the Daleks' place, but in this video you say it would be a terrible idea to use them instead of Daleks?? Make up your damn mind 😂😂😂

At a Manopticon in the 1990's I got to ask Nick Courtney if he thought it would have been better drama in Battlefield if the Brigadier had died. To be fair, I prefaced the question with the words "Please don't take this the wrong way but..." He was very gracious and said that he wasn't taking it the wrong way and rather than answer the question directly he told the story of how during the Tom Baker era he had been asked if he wanted to do a story in which the Brigadier died? Apparently, he'd thought about it and decided that he didn't want to cut off any potential future work. It might have prevented the UNIT dating controversy if he had though!

The doctor was always a crusader working for the time lords between doctors 3 through 6.

The doctor creating a companion sounds like something he'd do, have you seen some of the crazy stuff the doctor's done throughout the big finish stuff, how dark he got during the 9th era and the novels/comics? it's very on brand. Rose Tyler: earth defense sounds good, it could show her version of torchwood hiring her and training her during the break between series 2 and 3, it would show she lived a nice life and her return would still be shocking, it would also explain how much of a badass she became.

Shortening the run time and the episode count. Oh wait...

Having Ricky September being a great companion. Getting offered a great job at unit and living a long, happy life. Oh, wait...

I always thought a show about Rose and Human Doctor on Counter Earth would have been very interesting

The suggestion that Patrick Troughton's Doctor wear a turban and be in black face? Amblin spider Daleks?

The Paternoster Gang, Missy and River Song were terrible ideas. Yet they happened!

Junior Doctor Who set on Gallifrey with a CBBC budget would have looked SO bad

For me "Battlefield" is one of the best DRW stories. Along with "The Remembrance of the Daleks". But I was always a fan of #7.

I actually think that Cow idea would’ve worked because didn’t Steven Taylor face the Toymaker before? Kinda harkens back to the old story and how powerful and personal of a villain he is.

Mick Jagger as Sharaz Jek

This is USA calling... There's a Stateside rumor that, desperate to keep the pre-quil series Star Trek: Enterprise alive the writers/producers were going to have the 9th Doctor guest on the 5th Season permire. Of course this never materialized. Those of us who've been waiting for an official Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover with have to be satisfied with the underrated Next Generation/11th Doctor story "Assimilation2"...

2005 doctor is the best doctor, I’m sorry but I love it so muchhh

Not having bad wolf being scattered around time for the return of Sutekh. Oh wait... Oh.wait... They didn't do that one.

Presumably, much like Sarah Jane replaced "The Young Doctor Adventures", Torchwood replaced "Rose Tyler Earth Defence"

4:15 so the baddie from the pirate planet then

This video made me both happy and sad some really cool ideas

Well, eventually Big Finish used Rose in The Dimension Cannon. It's all right, then...

Damn Steven Taylor in the Giggle would have been great! But not as a cow!

Listen im not like a number 1 fan of Rose Tyler but seeing Rose Tyler Earth Defender here hurts cause like thats basically what big finish did with Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon which I think was done so well but i do get how if it was a show at the time it would've been a bit of a disservice to Martha

Sad irony is that only a couple of these seem worse than what they've actually done lately.....

Rose to Martha is like Sarah to Leela, they have no competition.

There's a Big Finish story, Lies in Ruins from the Legacy of Time box set where the Eighth Doctor creates a companion to keep him company. They met River and Benny. I found the concept quite sad for the Doctor 😕

idk - the idea of Tom Baker being in the Doctor Who movie is really intriguing to me. I mean, whether or not the Movie was canon was an open question for a long time.

I'm watching the "10 Awesome ideas" video from a year ago (you reference it at the end of this video) and I'm surprised that you said then that the Toclafane was a good idea for a villain but here you say it is a bad idea....

bit confused as you put the toclafane in your "10 awesome ideas that nearly happened" video change of heart in the last year?

Still trying to imagine how Steven was a cow would've worked...

Tardises instead of spells and quiditch... That's clever 😁

Since anything Mark Gatiss does with Dr Who has been middling at best and downright awful at worst, the thought of him a show runner is what I can best describe as "a lucky escape!" :)

Listened to Rob Shearman at a con. Lovely man. IIRC He did claim some early dialogue survived into the series 3 finale.

Why was there never a spinoff for the Paternastor Gang?

I love the Billie piper idea

Ellie: FYI 26th August at 7pm Live from the Proms: An evening of Dr. Who music etc..

About the animated series: The reason the Dr. Who animated series was canceled was entirely because of the BBC's financial meddling. The BBC wanted 100% of toy profits everywhere except North America, where the BBC would allow Nelvana a 25% cut. Not great, but Nelvana was in cahoots with Tyco at the time, and Tyco was willing to fund 100% of the show's development costs (to the tune of $400,000 an episode) to get the North American toy license. So development went forwards, and that's where we get the few scripts and storyboards we do have. But when the BBC found out, they told Nelvana to drop Tyco and fund it out of pocket, without budging on the share of toy profits. When Nelvana balked at this, Nelvana was cut in favor of a British company that promised they could make it for ₤50,000 an episode (and who then promptly didn't). Series developers Ted Bastien and John de Klein did well for themselves; they went on to work on shows like Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Gargoyles, Sam & Max, Redwall, The Magic School Bus, Extreme Ghostbusters, and Miraculous.

did Moffat ever run back around to that lost time machine???

I bet that giant cow thing was a joke no way that's true 😂

“One of RTD’s worst ideas…” A Rose spinoff is far from his worst idea.

Honestly, I fail to see the difference between the Cybermen and the Toklafane (especially after Chibnall introduced the Cyber-drones). They're just a robotized human head in both cases. And they're used by the Master. Also, I remember the talks about the young Doctor spin-off! And I read somewhere back then that it was supposed to follow young Doctor and young Master being best friends and we wouldn't know which is which until towards the end of the show, making the loss of Doctor's best friend more devastating for us.

Evil lady who is an alien lady - juwt like the first Martha episode in thr hospital

I can see Rob Paulsen or Joe Alaskey or Cam Clarke voicing the Doctor in the cartoon if it got off the ground

Big Finish has kind of done what might have been Rose Tyler: Earth Defense. It's called the "Dimension Cannon Series." It deserves more recognition than it gets, and it's way better than DisneyWho. The Dimesion Cannon Series is Rose and her team (including her mother and father) jumping from universe to universe trying to find Jackie and Rose's Prime Universe and the Doctor before the TV episode "Journey's End." They even semi-subtly make fun of the Sliders parallels.

Honestly, a Rose Tyler Defender episode would've been interesting, as long as it came after season 4 instead, especially if the Meta-Crisis Doctor grew a new TARDIS from the piece The Doctor gave him in the deleted scene that Donna then instructed him how to quickly grow. THAT might've worked

Having a near perfect episode loved by all and then having the main character of the episode having a relationship with a pavement slab. Oh wait...

Controversial opinion but I don't hate that the brigadier was brought back as a Cyberman in fact I think it's a pretty heartwarming ending for the brigadier to get that salute he always wanted from the doctor I know it seems a bit insensitive but the last thing the brigadier did was save his daughter so I don't see it as insensitive see it as somewhat a happy ending

These bad ideas... we really need to step away from anyone with fanwank as their agenda. I want a series like 9 again but with all 1 parters, no daleks and nothing like eye crust as a monster.

I would've watched an 8 episode miniseries ab Rose but anymore than that would've been dreadful

Aaranovitch no accent every letter is equal aaronovitch. No stress on any part of the nane. I know you arent a bot but you can work on a name.

Every time I see clips from Battlefield, I wonder if people notice that those knights on foot are wearing the helmets from Monty Python and the Holy Grail’s Knights of the Round Table song…

Some sound interesting, some not

they were 100% right to not do a rose spin off, i would have watched the rose spin off instead of dr who the next season

Can't possibly be as bad as what *did* happen.

PITY THE GELF

Never watched Dr. Who after Jon Pertwee, should have stopped then when it was on a high.

If Tom Baker came back for the TV movie, it could have become the first instance of "bi-generation" in the series.

They need a robot bird sidekick now!

0:50 this has lead to a conspiracy that they money for young doctor was used on Jonathan Baileys Leonardo

I love Tom Baker, but he has not aged well, I fear.

I want that giant cow story. That's perfect 70's Dr who.

I think "Victory of the Daleks" with Toclafanes instead would just been a gumball machine at that point :)

The only issue with the Toclafane as a main villain 🦹‍♂️ is that it is *REALLY* hard to imagine far future humans realistically. For one they should be monogender, without biological sex and mass produced in artificial wombs/non-human wombs and raised by nations without any parents. It is just more efficient. Plus, they would be almost completely 👽 in personality and beliefs, but randomly have a few things similar or even emphasised. They are beyond the writers' ✍️ skills. 😅

A Brit mispronouncing Gatiss… Come on Ellie, you can do better than that! 🤨

I would love to see Peter Purvis back to Doctor Who in some form

All these ideas would have still been better then letting Steven Moffat loose as show runner.

You know, it's funny that Davies rejected an idea that could've wrecked the mystery of the Doctor and yet wouldn't denounce the Timeless Child which did exactly that. Also, I seem to recall that you put the Toclafane (who back then weren't named that) being a replacement for the Daleks in Dalek as one of your awesome ideas that never came to light. And I think you once talked about the reveal that the Doctor had created Rose to be the perfect companion and thought it wasn't too bad as it offered another side to the Doctor. Alongside everything in Doctor Who that has been happening ever since Peter Capaldi left, one idea I don't like is the Spy Master being after Missy; not only does it wreck Missy's character development, but I rather like the thought of the Doctor and the Master meeting out of order. You once questioned why they didn't as they're both time travellers like River and the audios have done it with the Master, so why not have him meet out of order onscreen with the Doctor?

I like the idea of a spin off which is the 14th doctor in about 30 years time when he has lived his life with Donna and she dies. He forces a regeneration and comes out of retirement. His tardis is dead and he’s stuck on earth sort of like a 1 man torchwood, make it an 18 and a bit more gruesome it could be like x files meets torchwood meets rick and Morty. I’d cast somebody like tnia miller in the role.

Bad Ideea that actually happened letting STeven Moffet Run Doctor Who at the Same time that he ran Sherlock. It affected the quality of Doctor Who because the stories weren't as good as they could have been because Moffet was working on the more prestigous adaptation of Sherlock Holmes.

I wish ncuti gatwa’s “doctor” (nurse what) was on this list 😂

I'm just glad Gareth Roberts wasn't allowed near Doctor Who again. He's garbage.

Young doctor who would have destroyed any mystery? Yeah they just left that to chibnall with the timeless child lol

the Doctor was going to be revealed to be Cinderella's godmother's ex-husband

Rose Tyler show would have been amazing. Fight me.

Everything after The Doctor Falls 2017 was a terrible idea that sadly happened.

Lol a cbbc story that would explore his childhood would ruin the mystery? Did you watch chibnall's shit show?

Nice!

To be frank I'm more bothered by the terrible ideas that actually occured during Chibnall's reign....

i can think of one the new doctor who series on Disney plus its very bad and poorly writing

YOU got Tales of the Tardis. We yanks got NOTHING. Thanks once more for pouring salt on that wound.

And there are ideas that would have been cool at the time, but aged badly later on, like the intended J.K. Rowling episode.

Im starting to lose confidence it RTD. The ending of last season made on damn sense. A god killed with a magic bungee cord??? Why did it snow? Normal woman but pointing at a sign made no sense.

Left out the last 10 years.

Hi

One of several forced top tens because they got nothing to talk about.

Turning The Doctor into a woman, The Timeless Children, The Doctor being lectured to about pronouns, Turning The Doctor into a gay black man......oh, wait.....

Did you know that they almost let Chibnall run the show? Good thing that that terrible idea never came about.

I can give you 10 Terrible Doctor Who ideas that did happen: - They introduced DEI hires for the sake of DEI hires - They made Davos walk - They insert woke rhetoric in everything they can - They gave the Doctor Who role to a woman who's never seen or liked Doctor Who - They race and gender swapped for woke reasons, they could have at least done spinoffs and left the actual Doctor Who main series alone - They hired people that have no idea how to write engaging dialogue or an interesting story - They copy/pasted half the formula from previous series instead of trying to come up with something original and still managed to pervert it and ruin it - They destroyed the core principles of the old Doctor Who - They target children in an attempt to brainwash them into believing the far-left ideology (by the writers' own self-admittance) - They don't care about the franchise that so many millions of people around the world once cared so deeply about, and purposefully ran it into the ground.

Why would the proto-Toclofane episode be provisionally called "Spears"? Surely, as they're perfectly round, 'Spheres' would make more sense. Unless that's what she meant and forgot that ph is pronounced as f for the most part.