Appreciate it! PIckleball IQ is the biggest difference in higher ratings and that's what we're trying to teach at the end of the day. Thanks for the comment :)

I think it’s quite difficult to prove that something is a 3.5 tendency rather than a 4.0 tendency. The line between is blurry. There is a much clearer distinction between 4.0 vs 5.0.

Completely disagree here. 3.5's don't do any of this stuff. They just hit the ball back and forth over the net at each other.

​@@Jason-zt1rjI assume the point he tried to make isn't that knowing & applying these tips is typical of 3.5 play but that not knowing or at least not regularly applying the tips is typical of 3.5 play. A lot of people in the 4.0 to 4.5 range have had a lot of coaching and they know what they should be doing, it's just the execution and/or athleticism is still lacking. But that said it's also true than many young, athletic 4.0s are pretty oblivious and are getting by on hand-eye coordination, reflexes, foot speed, instinct, and one or two big weapons but could do so much better if they were tactically sound. So, both the comment and the video are imo realistic.

So glad it helped!

Good info for sure, but seriously, you are not 4.0 level if you aren't already doing or trying to do these things. 4.0/4.5 to 5.0 difference is the consistent execution and precision of these shots and strategies.

Agreed. I'm not sure where the "spin continuation" comes from in pb. In both tennis and tt you counter topspin with topspin and slice with slice. At high levels of play in both sports "spin continuation" just leads to a more unpredictable shot. In tennis the main reason to counter a high loop for and with slice is if you can't brush up on it (usually if it's high to your backhand) so you're forced to hit a slice. I love it when tennis players return my topspin serve with slice. Means I can hit my 3rd drive as hard as I want cuz it'll go in. This is why the pros topspin return everything now....

This is true, pros tend to hit topspin returns now rather than backspin returns. But it’s literally a direct result of spin continuation. A backspin return gives an opportunity for heavy topspin on the third, which they don’t want to deal with. But it’s a fact that hitting topspin returns off of topspin serves will produce significantly less spin than hitting backspin returns off of topspin serves. This is where spin continuation comes from.

😂 I accidentally forgot my shoes when we were filming the last part 🤦🏻

Awesome! With a little work you'll get there!

I see whatcha did there

Caleb is unnaturally tall, leave me alone 😂

That’s a good place to start!

See that’s the thing. The decision making might seem like common sense watching it now, but the reason people aren’t 5.0’s is because the decision making in game is much harder. Common sense isn’t there yet

@joshc.6706 contain the middle

@@chrishough5834 well that too. I’m just saying that in game a lot of people don’t have the common sense to understand good decision making in game. Hell I’m right at 4.0. Whenever I play a 4.5, 5.0 player it’s usually the same thing. It’s not that i can’t hit the same shots as them… it’s the consistency in which I make good decisions/take advantage of an opponent mistake in positioning

Not if used in the right circumstance but players afraid to drive or drop will panic and just start throwing up lobs.

@@drkjhnsn I guess, but still it is a less chivalrous shot choice

@@jmeib Not to be argumentative but that's stupid. What constitutes unchivalrous? Anything that makes you move? A good shot is whatever works in the situation.

@@drkjhnsn I just mean it's a silly shot that people use when they know they can't out dink you or beat you in a hands battle. Especially when most of the time they're lobbing at you so when you look up you're looking into the sun. At least for the rec players we play with that's what they do.