10 Things DC Wants You To Forget About The Riddler

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@highdefinitionapollo2189
@highdefinitionapollo2189 7 жыл бұрын
#1 They accidentally called him "Lex Luthor" in the latest movie.
@jeb9710
@jeb9710 7 жыл бұрын
9
@colemorales659
@colemorales659 7 жыл бұрын
George Zhang someone doesn't read the comic
@misterexplicit5930
@misterexplicit5930 7 жыл бұрын
It's sarcasm, you geek.
@colemorales659
@colemorales659 7 жыл бұрын
Mister Explicit did you just assume my title
@kelerews
@kelerews 7 жыл бұрын
Shit Luthor for wankers #shitLuthorForWankers
@fusionspace175
@fusionspace175 7 жыл бұрын
Let's be fair, "Batman-obsessed whack-job who commits elaborate crimes" applies to every batman villain ever.
@jled787
@jled787 7 жыл бұрын
Penguin and Cat-Woman always going for their themed prizes. The new Riddler being more of an Information thief than anything. Two-Face always going for a paired plot. Scarecrow mostly appearing during Halloween...etc.
@Deanosauruk
@Deanosauruk 7 жыл бұрын
were as Man-bat just flies around jump scaring :D
@jled787
@jled787 7 жыл бұрын
That's just in Arkham Knight though. But Croc just needs a Rock. The bigger the better.
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629 7 жыл бұрын
Carmine Infanto was an artist that had been used in a Man Bat part from the seventies but it showed how when certain things would have him transform into this Man Bat yes he was a bat, but it wasn't just someone flying around, being a bat the human mind was not in control. The bat was a little stereotypical if all bats did this or that, it was also a cool series for their respective decade.
@newajseyes
@newajseyes 7 жыл бұрын
Get dwayne on the phone
@awickedtribe
@awickedtribe 7 жыл бұрын
The Riddler should be done as a villain who does odd seemingly meaningless crimes that lead up to something big. Batman has to figure out the riddle of what is the main objective. Riiddler is a genius after all...
@13thmistral
@13thmistral 7 жыл бұрын
say hello to BTAS. that happened like 2 decades ago btw :p
@cameron3578
@cameron3578 7 жыл бұрын
william white thats pretty much every riddler origin story until he meets his intellectual match in Batman..
@Sayuameangkis
@Sayuameangkis 7 жыл бұрын
They kinda did that in "The Batman" were the Riddler had his usual thing of bombs and riddles of were to find and dismantle them with him bragging in the clues about how smart he was. That is until the last one were it seems he messed up the riddle to have have no real answer, this was the clue that none of the bombs were real and a distraction from another crime. Everyone else just tried to think harder of the answer and were almost fooled of getting the wrong one, in the end the Riddler was using the wild goose chase as a means to buy time so he can hack into the central bank.
@krishna7404
@krishna7404 7 жыл бұрын
william white Batman Earth One Vol 2 is kinda like that. You should give it a read if you haven't.
@funnyblog100
@funnyblog100 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I liked the reformed Riddler better. Riddler and Batman's intellect combined makes for an awesome team up. I could totally see them teaming up. Riddler helped Batman take down King Tut in batman confidential number 26.
@vilmundurgunnarsson6601
@vilmundurgunnarsson6601 7 жыл бұрын
Riddler being reformed and teaming up with Batman actually sounds fascinating. Would pay much money to see a movie on that.
@algernon7272
@algernon7272 7 жыл бұрын
+Jeffrey Sockenbart and Bane knows his secret identity. He's one of the smartest batman villains out there. So of course he would team up with Bane. I'm seeing a pattern here *cough cough* Jason Todd *cough cough*
@THEghost13579
@THEghost13579 7 жыл бұрын
There was an episode of a batman animated series where the batman villains teamed up with the gotham police. It was in "The Batman" series.
@algernon7272
@algernon7272 7 жыл бұрын
+That guy what was the name I have to see this
@captaincomic8678
@captaincomic8678 6 жыл бұрын
GeneralMars 98 I know it's a bit late, but I'm pretty sure he's talking about a scene from "The Joining, Part 2" from season 4 of the series.
@jae6027
@jae6027 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in season 5 of Gotham the riddler teams up with Bruce Wayne (who isn't yet Batman) along with other well known DC characters. I'm pretty sure they're trying to stop Bane or something I haven't watched it yet.
@CJacobs99
@CJacobs99 7 жыл бұрын
The actor who portrays riddler in the fox series Gotham is one of the best incarnations of the character
@OlivrM722
@OlivrM722 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt
@adamcomma
@adamcomma 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@strawberrypancake2866
@strawberrypancake2866 5 жыл бұрын
he is one of the greatest, but i like Arkham Riddler more.
@livonianemperor7339
@livonianemperor7339 5 жыл бұрын
The best: but the penguin tho:
@livonianemperor7339
@livonianemperor7339 5 жыл бұрын
Its funny that Penguin didnt kill Riddler with a spoon
@RowdyRodimus
@RowdyRodimus 7 жыл бұрын
No, you can't say Riddler has the worst alter ego when DC also has the "Rainbow Raider" who is also known as Roy G. Biv.
@romanmacharoni
@romanmacharoni 7 жыл бұрын
#Sh^tAlterEgoForW^nkers
@tntimothyroditi1576
@tntimothyroditi1576 5 жыл бұрын
Is no one going to mention Victor Fries (which is prounounced exactly like Freeze, for those pf you who don't know)?!?!!?
@15oClock
@15oClock 5 жыл бұрын
Kite-Man, AKA Charles Brown. No, seriously.
@dog.3677
@dog.3677 5 жыл бұрын
RowdyRodimus or Humpty Dumpty
@taffyadam6031
@taffyadam6031 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there was this one time he made batman rainbow or something (idr) so now they can market him as pride month merchandise making him the most important character of all time
@grantwileyesq.5962
@grantwileyesq.5962 7 жыл бұрын
Cory Michael Smith's portrayal in Gotham is my favorite version of the Riddler, ever. He's seriously brilliant.
@sbird8675
@sbird8675 3 жыл бұрын
I missed out on Gotham when it first came out. I found the intro episode so boring I didn't give the series a chance for years and it was only after it was cancelled I gave it a chance. I'm kicking myself now because it's genuinely great. It's just one of those shows that takes a bit to get on its feet.
@AmelityshTV
@AmelityshTV Жыл бұрын
I love Cory's portrayal of the Riddler. Everyone is saying that Paul Dano is the best Riddler. While yes, Dano's performance was absolutely amazing and he was a great Riddler, he wasn't the Riddler. The Riddler is an insane genius that loves to put on a show while commiting his crimes. Dano's Riddler didn't do this. Yes, he was a very smart character, but the rest of the original character traits were left behind. The Batman's Riddler isn't THE Riddler. Someone put it by saying that he isn't Edward Nygma, he's Edward Nashton.
@ravenswoods177
@ravenswoods177 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Cory was amazing
@edwardnygma8533
@edwardnygma8533 7 жыл бұрын
I am personally offended.
@jaredmartin7040
@jaredmartin7040 7 жыл бұрын
Edward Nygma What's your favorite riddle?
@edwardnygma8533
@edwardnygma8533 7 жыл бұрын
Jared Martin What walks on eight legs until it's two years old, four legs until it's twenty years old, and two legs for the remainder of its life?
@jaredmartin7040
@jaredmartin7040 7 жыл бұрын
The Weasley Twins!Nice one
@edwardnygma8533
@edwardnygma8533 7 жыл бұрын
Jared Martin *applauds* Very good, and thank you; I like it because it makes die-hard Potterheads cry.
@jaredmartin7040
@jaredmartin7040 7 жыл бұрын
Haha good series tho,avadacadabra!
@ahnafdrubo9727
@ahnafdrubo9727 7 жыл бұрын
Edward Nygma is actually a nice name dude
@ShiranaiSonzaisha
@ShiranaiSonzaisha 7 жыл бұрын
Ya I like this channel they seem like they know what they are talking about but complaining about the clever naming behind Edward Nygma may be one of the stupidest things I have seen people complain about ignorantly in a very long time. It's the ABC's of comics. They all have names like that EVERY villain and their civilian name as well as all the heros and SOME of their civilian name's. No one walked around saying Enigma to people before the riddler. It wasn't a common name it was a very synonym name for "mystery." Now that The Riddler has been around for well over 50 years people hear the word enigma because they actually say it now (especially in Sci-Fi as it is a futuristic sounding word) and immediately associate it with the Riddler. Then to add insult to injury he bitched about Harleen Quinzel as well. No one talks about Harlequin's in the US before Harley Quinn. Harlequin is another name for clown it fit perfectly. Your ignorance is showing Whatculture.
@ahnafdrubo9727
@ahnafdrubo9727 7 жыл бұрын
George Spears Exactly. Harlequin is still a bit cliché. But Edward Nygma is a very mysterious, interesting and smart name
@ShiranaiSonzaisha
@ShiranaiSonzaisha 7 жыл бұрын
There is a good reason for Harley Quinn though which makes it acceptable to be cliche. The Joker is THE most iconic villain in comics history. Period. People often think he was the first villain Batman faced because of how iconic he is but the Riddler, Penquin, and Hugo Strange all came long before. So if you want to make a sidekick for your most popular villain how the hell do you achieve that where people are going to remember it? Just like enigma, harlequin was not a commonly used name in the US. It meant clown specifically a jester but it wasn't a word used here. So you call your character Harley Quinn which literally outright says HARLEQUIN and Harleen Quinzel as her civilian name. Jesters wear a cap with bells and dress in two toned clothing. So have Harley wear a jester cap and dress like them and you have a similar yet distinct word association with the Joker. Not only that but she also looks like she comes out of a pack of cards. Which the joker throws at people in the animated series! Do you see the brilliance now? Harley Quinn is one of the most popular female characters in comics by a long shot. Yet she has been around the shortest time. So how can she be so popular if she is such a new character? She is memorable. Her name is similar yet distinct enough from the Joker. Which gives her name association not just with herself but with the Joker as well! There is one thing that makes Edward Nygma's name better than hers. He speaks in riddles that is his whole thing. So the ridiculously easy puzzle needed to "solve" his name is a riddle. Though this is common with the vast majority of heroes and villains alike. The Riddler is one of the only characters it actually makes perfect sense for that character to do this. It fits his character completely.
@ahnafdrubo9727
@ahnafdrubo9727 7 жыл бұрын
George Spears I agree with most of your statements. It was nice to lhave Harley's character dress like her name and stuff . But it would've been better to make the name something a bit more mature and realistic . Harley Quinn is too easily changed into harlequin. Something a bit different but something that'll still have the reference would've been better for me atleast. Sorry for my bad choice of words. My English vocabulary isn't the best
@Macephtopheles
@Macephtopheles 7 жыл бұрын
+George Spears Of those you mention only Hugo Strange appeared before the Joker. Penguin debuted over a year after the Joker and the Riddler wasn't around for nearly a decade after the Joker. In terms of recurring Batman villains Strange is the only one who predates the Joker.
@RichardCano
@RichardCano 7 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree with number 1. The greatest Batman villains are a reflection of, or counter to, Batman's own qualities, and the Riddler is no exception. Two-Face reflects the Bruce/Batman split personality. Scarecrow reflects Batman's use of fear as a weapon. Catwoman walks the line between immorality and illegality, same as Batman. Penguin is a member of high society by day, but is an animal-based outlaw by night. Ras Al Ghoul is a ninja who works outside the law to battle injustice and crime. The Joker is a happy go-lucky unstoppable agent of chaos, while Batman is a dark, brooding, unwavering example of pure discipline. And the Riddler reflects Batman's amazing genius intellect and problem solving capabilities. The exception to the rule would be Poison Ivy. I got nothin' for her. As well as Mr. Freeze who I'd say appeals to us because he's a sympathetic character with a cool gimmick. The reason the Riddler worked so well in the Arkham games (specifically the second and fourth) was because they played up on the cunning and intelligence aspect. His entire deal was he wanted to prove he's smarter than Batman, and he was completely obsessed with doing so. That was his identity. In the Jim Carrey version we find out the only reason he's sucking Gotham's intelligence was for, "credit card numbers, bank codes, sexual fantasies, and little white lies." In the end that just made him about money and power.
@burningstar1793
@burningstar1793 5 жыл бұрын
Poison Ivy resembles his strong morality when it cimes to the value of life. Where Batman will go very out of his way to save someone regardless of risk or who They are. Poison Ivy treats plants in that same way while regarding human life as unnecessary and in the way. Freeze reflects him because he spends his life brooding and obsessing over someone he has loved and lost (sort of). Ivy and Freeze reflect his morality and obsessive traits.
@gosh2bosh741
@gosh2bosh741 4 жыл бұрын
In all my time as an avid Batman fan, I have never really thought about his villains in this way, interesting.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 4 жыл бұрын
Well, realistically most villains are about money and power.
@leifmcferson
@leifmcferson 3 жыл бұрын
i get that but in the arkham games especially arkham knight he just straight up sucks, its not intelligent, u just have to find over 200 trophies and waste ur time
@yahirandresmezavillalta7590
@yahirandresmezavillalta7590 3 жыл бұрын
@@burningstar1793 that's pretty accurate
@HopeAuq
@HopeAuq 7 жыл бұрын
Actually his real name is Nashton he changed it to Nigma because of his obsession
@crispyjack428
@crispyjack428 5 жыл бұрын
What culture: well thanks for poking my British sounding bubble!
@wildrover2490
@wildrover2490 5 жыл бұрын
No kidding? Where did you find that out?
@jokerjack2913
@jokerjack2913 5 жыл бұрын
@@wildrover2490 Edward "Eddie" Nashton is the actual name of the Riddler. See either DC Comics Who's Who (DC's version of Marvel's Marvel Universe from the mid eighties) or just simply Wiki it. It will come up as Edward Nashton as the orginal name.
@chrisau1067
@chrisau1067 5 жыл бұрын
While this video is littered with errors and opinion presented as fact the 'Nashton' last name is a ret-con. His name was originally Edward Nigma.
@TheParanormalist0601
@TheParanormalist0601 4 жыл бұрын
Nashton WAS his original surname but then future projects decided to make Nygma his official surname.
@AbsurdandFantastical
@AbsurdandFantastical 7 жыл бұрын
His name is Edward Nashton. He changed it to Nygma later on for the play on "E. Nygma". I'm not sure when this became canon - but yeah :)
@TheBlackDemon1996
@TheBlackDemon1996 7 жыл бұрын
Too be fair it has been retconned that he changed his name to Nigma and his birth name was "Nashton".
@hanzimaundrell4100
@hanzimaundrell4100 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! came looking for this. He's Edward Nashton.
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 7 жыл бұрын
*Nygma
@TheBlackDemon1996
@TheBlackDemon1996 7 жыл бұрын
Yusuf Gazi *Whatevs
@edwardnashton9277
@edwardnashton9277 7 жыл бұрын
I put Edward Nashton as his name in a Fanfic and someone argued its Nygma. People need to LEARN ITS NASHTON!
@theunfamousone2818
@theunfamousone2818 7 жыл бұрын
TheBlackDemon1996 it actually eddie Nashton
@SignoftheMagi
@SignoftheMagi 7 жыл бұрын
Two things: I loved the concept of Riddler as a good guy. That bit after Hush as not only a breath of fresh air for the character, but lead to some very interesting bits...including the revaluation that he might really be a better investigator than Batman. The supporting character idea is sound, but I personally think he would be a better leader. If I had the chance, I'd like to see the Riddler put together his own criminal organization, a sort of mini-Legion Of Doom. Considering his skills, his ability for elaborate plans and his habit of planning WAY in advance, he could be a powerful force.
@zipgow
@zipgow 7 жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey's performance was clearly based on Frank Gorshin's Riddler from the Batman TV series, not the comic books.
@silentangel2259
@silentangel2259 4 жыл бұрын
He took a part of the Gorshim riddler, but he didn't do it as well, and he didn't take a lot of what made Gorshim good.
@sbird8675
@sbird8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@silentangel2259 Exactly! Jim Carrey may have said he based his performance on Gorshin, but he really only did an exaggeration of the wackier parts of Gorshin's portrayal. What made Gorshin's performance so good (he was the only member of the cast to be nominated for an Emmy), was that he could switch from being over the top to suddenly deadly calm and serious. It was this ability to switch from giggling loon to stone cold killer that really made him stand out in a show where everyone else's performance was mostly ham. He was so popular that he took what was a relatively minor Batman villain and single-handedly made him one of Batman's most popular Rogues. That Carrey's cheesy The Mask part 2 style performance is compared to his makes me roll my eyes hard.
@RamiFive4Five
@RamiFive4Five 7 жыл бұрын
Edward Nygma is the coolest name ever!
@kitcollar3102
@kitcollar3102 7 жыл бұрын
Despite how weird the redesigns were, I really liked The Batman
@Skeletor98
@Skeletor98 7 жыл бұрын
same, I loved The Batman
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 7 жыл бұрын
Me to it was amazing, especially how they did Clayface not sure if that's his origin in the books, but holy shit it was good.
@Skeletor98
@Skeletor98 7 жыл бұрын
I love the whole redesign as well, it made the characters looks so unique, instead of the generic look of the characters we always get, it was really a breath of fresh air and the intro as cool af
@thefuturegoat5769
@thefuturegoat5769 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Batman was one of the best shows on Kids WB. It was better than ALOT of the crap they put for kids now.
@Skeletor98
@Skeletor98 7 жыл бұрын
+Mr. NoDaysOff like brave and the bold, that shit is honestly boring and looks too kids friendly for a "batman" cartoon, but there are still some amazing cartoons out rn, Over The Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, The Amazing World of Gumball, Star vs The Forces of Evil, Stevens Universe is supposed to be awesome
@ZarisWhiteFoot
@ZarisWhiteFoot 7 жыл бұрын
Before I even watch this video I just want to say: I don't even know 10 things about the Riddler. lol
@geoffjanes2088
@geoffjanes2088 7 жыл бұрын
Well now you do
@bfdidc6604
@bfdidc6604 7 жыл бұрын
Now forget them.
@AlexBrovo
@AlexBrovo 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's originally Edward Nashton, and just changed it.
@Caxerw13
@Caxerw13 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Brovo Yeah, he was called Eddie Nash too!
@AlfredSoul
@AlfredSoul 7 жыл бұрын
I just went down in the comments to write same exact thing...
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 7 жыл бұрын
Riddle me this, riddle me that. Who's afraid of the Big Bad Bat?
@TyrannosavageRekt
@TyrannosavageRekt 7 жыл бұрын
Edward Nygma is a great name.
@kelerews
@kelerews 7 жыл бұрын
No, no it's not. It's a shit name for wankers #shitNameForWankers
@jamiemsm4883
@jamiemsm4883 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's almost like it's a comic book name right? wait...
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 7 жыл бұрын
That joke wasn't even funny the first time he said it.
@jossuearias3509
@jossuearias3509 7 жыл бұрын
#shitNameForWankers indeed
@ilpensatore659
@ilpensatore659 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Moriarty i'd like to leave you a like...but i don't want to ruin that "69"
@TomuDesuKa
@TomuDesuKa 7 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the Arkham portrayal of the Riddler is that he isn't actually very smart. He is simply incredibly deluded about his superiority and wants to prove himself better than Batman. LIsten to his Arkham Asylum interview tapes and you'll see that he admits to cheating as a child, he is frequently wrong about things but refuses to admit it, and his riddles aren't riddles at all but morbid jokes designed to make his interviewer uncomfortable. When Batman beats him in each game, it's not because of the clues that the Riddler intentionally leaves, but accidental clues he left that Batman picked up on, like tracing his transmissions and finding out how he bought properties, etc. Then, the Riddler can't understand why he's been beaten, because Batman played outside his very narrow set of rules, his very limited worldview where the RIddler is the best.
@fatnose0
@fatnose0 5 жыл бұрын
@@mingalo2620 he's saying that the arkham version of the riddler isnt very smart, how can you deny that.
@JG-oo6bu
@JG-oo6bu 5 жыл бұрын
Shaco it Off The Riddler is a smart man but, not that smart. If anything he’s a conspiracy theorist since the purpose of The Riddler going after The Batman is because he wants to prove that The Batman is in on the crimes and is somehow planning the crimes to create control. The Riddler is acting as an anarchist in the way that The Joker does but, the biggest differences between the two is that The Riddler is out to expose The Batman of being a fake and a liar about the acts that he commits while The Joker is out to prove that The Batman is as insane and ready to break as the rest of humanity The best thing about Batman characters is how symbolic each character is. The Riddler serves as the symbol for people who cannot accept someone else being better than themselves, which is why The Riddler suffers from narcissistic tendencies, which can also be pointed out by many psychologists in The Batman universe. The guy who made this video has not looked or listened to The Riddlers reasoning apparently, but he has a very valid reason for going after The Batman, just like all of the villains do. My favorite is Scarecrow and Raz
@fluffynator6222
@fluffynator6222 2 жыл бұрын
He literally build an army of bots and an elaborate underground testing facility. He's definitely got some wits but isn't nearly as smart as he likes to think.
@3dnygma
@3dnygma 7 жыл бұрын
Gotham made me fall in love with Edward Nygma, especially Cory Michael Smith's portrayal of him
@KohlDayvhis
@KohlDayvhis 7 жыл бұрын
>riddler's better as a side character >that's why he was so good as s Green Arrow villain >because he stood out unlike in Gothem You went full 180 lol
@OriginalPiMan
@OriginalPiMan 7 жыл бұрын
KohlDayvhis The point is that in Gotham he is a mediocre themed villain amongst many themed villains, and so in Gotham he is suited to a side role. In Star City he is relatively unique and therefore more suited to a prominent role.
@theriddler4088
@theriddler4088 7 жыл бұрын
Don't Worry. I'm Currently Tracking You :D
@JackBlackJr123
@JackBlackJr123 7 жыл бұрын
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@AussieGamer-jd6qd
@AussieGamer-jd6qd 5 жыл бұрын
What goes up a chimney down but not up a chimney down?.
@Promethazin3
@Promethazin3 5 жыл бұрын
BlutJäger An umbrella
@TheHobgoblyn
@TheHobgoblyn 7 жыл бұрын
I am sad they gave up on the "reformed" idea. For whatever reason only girls and thugs can apparently be good or wild cards. But having a character who would work for either hero or villain if challenged and paid was one they didn't do enough with. Also, I think the name thing was explained-- his name is actually Edward Nashton, but upon deciding he was going to do the whole "Riddler" gimmick he gave himself the alias of "E. Nygma" because... well, his compulsion to at least give people a fair shake at catching him... I mean this is a city in which no one can figure out that Batman must be funded by the only guy in the city with the money and technology to create such an individual, so you kind of have to be really flippin' obvious for anyone to catch on.
@KamisamanoOtaku
@KamisamanoOtaku 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like a fact of life in "extended" storytelling like comic books: almost every hero has a face-heel turn and every villain a heel-face turn. Usually its a temporary thing, but sometimes it works really well as a long time thing and... as a concept, the Riddler being one of the examples of a reformed Batman rogue is great. I am sad they reversed it again. It is one thing to have him backslide, needing to repair more damage done; in fact that is one of those great ways to ground a fantastic character in reality. As for the name, I'm more than okay with it. I like it, and its actually pretty plausible since oh yeah, Gotham City is in the USA, right? Countless immigrants changed their names when they got here; just find some "old world" name where Nigma or Nygma makes sense... or reveal that Eddie's sense of humor/wit takes after whatever ancestor decided "Why I could go by E. Nygma and have a clever, memorable name!" (Whether he was right or not XD). I'll also add that the re-imaginings for the various Batman villains as we saw them in "The Batman" (2004-2008); some were rather jarring at first, and a few are still kind of disappointing, but they do grow on you. I think many of them tried to "flip the script" in a good way. I love how (for example) Batman: The Animated Series gave such great, often tragic, backstories to its villains *but* but too much of a good thing makes it rather bad. I believe the Riddler works best *without* serious childhood abuse or trauma. Since I made this so long already, I'll just add that other than the points in contention, the video was good and (now that I know about them), I tend to agree with their stance on the rest of the points.
@piccolo56000
@piccolo56000 7 жыл бұрын
TheHobgoblyn the reformed idea was brilliant actually. it would actually make him more interesting than just an evil villain fooling good people, he would be brilliant as a neutral character or anti villain.
@cacfoundation2019
@cacfoundation2019 7 жыл бұрын
TheHobgoblyn You're absolutely right
@darrensmith5977
@darrensmith5977 7 жыл бұрын
why do people insist that Bruce Wayne is the only billionaire who could possibly be Batman? there can be more than one billionaire in a city you know.
@burningstar1793
@burningstar1793 5 жыл бұрын
City? Nah, Universe. Don't forget that the people of metropolis can't figure out that Clark Kent is Superman woth glasses on.
@ajrbenn7526
@ajrbenn7526 7 жыл бұрын
I reckon a Riddler type character can be a main villain if done well, just like the bad guy in Die Hard 3
@Apolloscleric
@Apolloscleric 7 жыл бұрын
He worked as one in the rebooted Secret Six.
@Scyllax
@Scyllax 7 жыл бұрын
The script for "Die Hard III" was cannibalized from one for "Batman III".
@OVOVKA_TM
@OVOVKA_TM 7 жыл бұрын
He should do games like Jigsaw did in Saw
@edwardnashton9277
@edwardnashton9277 7 жыл бұрын
I want to see a Team up between Riddler and Scarecrow
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of the time it's down to the writer. If the writer can't come up with a solid story and good riddles the whole thing is doomed. Every read "Dark Knight, Dark City" that was good.
@Rippertear
@Rippertear 7 жыл бұрын
Batman Forever font? seriously? Also, one of my favorite crappy riddles: When is a person like a piece of wood? Actual answer: When he's a ruler. Much better answer: When he's dead.
@a_fine_edition2746
@a_fine_edition2746 5 жыл бұрын
How about literally all of the riddles he gave in Batman Forever.
@trcsonic
@trcsonic 7 жыл бұрын
The Jigsaw "John Kramer" Riddler from Batman Arkham City is the best version of the character
@mercury7d
@mercury7d 7 жыл бұрын
10: in the words of Riddler from The Batman cartoon, "I tell riddles. I don't. Do. Jokes." His earlier interpretations were sadly similar to Mr. J, but as he evolved he became a more defined character. 9: it was weird, but he was more intimidating. 8: yep. I got nothing. 7: I loved that concept, he's always been closer to the fringe of "evil" and was only a villain to challenge his intellect. 6: that is pretty important to his backstory. 5: the best riddles are there where it counts 4: Jim Carrey was good for the era, and it wasn't a bad performance at all 3: he renamed himself. It used to be Nashton, not Nygma 2: I got nothing, that makes sense 1: he's best for something like a villain in the shadows, a behind the curtain villain and less than in the spotlight.
@ThePesteringJester
@ThePesteringJester 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, thank you for actually knowing about The Riddler. Half of this list was just annoying me.
@questioneverything1639
@questioneverything1639 7 жыл бұрын
Riddler should be The Questions villain
@lokir9959
@lokir9959 7 жыл бұрын
lol that would be great. I also like the list.
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 7 жыл бұрын
YES.
@captaincomic8678
@captaincomic8678 6 жыл бұрын
Question Everything He did actually fight the Question once; he defeated the Riddler by asking philosophical riddles which had no definite answers.
@freedfg6694
@freedfg6694 7 жыл бұрын
On that first point. Yeah most Batman villains have a lot in common. It is a running theme that Batman villains are criminally insane. That's like saying "The Vulture is a lot like The Rhino because they both are animal themed"
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that DC abandoned reformed Riddler idea. It was great and had a ton of potential. He still wanted to "defeat" Batman and what better way to prove that he was smarter than solving the crimes that Batman couldn't. And he was still an arrogant dick no one can stand so that created a lot of great interactions and relationships with other characters. It was also fun when bad guys went after him for betraying them and when he couldn't beat them, he had to go to Batman for help.
@zodiak650
@zodiak650 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah they fked that one up, DC sux anyways but they should have left him the reformed Riddler that'a a lawyer.
@algernon7272
@algernon7272 7 жыл бұрын
+zodiak650 Well I wouldn't say DC sucks. I've seen some really interesting movies and comics produced by DC such as flashpoint, death of the family, crisis on infinite earths, injustice, and some others. But I do agree the DC can and most of the time flops on it's ass like a wailing child wanting it's mumme Marvel to try and spark a new crossover when Marvel is trying to not get shit on their fingers from DC's diaper. By the way the crossover comic between Marvel and DC is amazing I definitely suggest it to anyone and everyone who enjoys comics.
@deathsythelui
@deathsythelui 7 жыл бұрын
Seems to me like it'd be a Batman and Sherlock Holmes crossover in spirit, honestly...
@tristan9602
@tristan9602 7 жыл бұрын
1:41 are you implying Batman Beyond was anything besides awesome?
@cameronkilmore1550
@cameronkilmore1550 7 жыл бұрын
The Riddler was actually born Edward Nashton and Enigma was his hacker name or title
@kelerews
@kelerews 7 жыл бұрын
Is still very stupid
@itsgeegra
@itsgeegra 7 жыл бұрын
Micah Mcgaffin Nashton is his given name, Nygma is assumed, boom.
@cameronkilmore1550
@cameronkilmore1550 7 жыл бұрын
Gareth Graham ***** yeah but still it's good to see some people know this stuff
@willoccasionallymakeanimat9215
@willoccasionallymakeanimat9215 7 жыл бұрын
adam Roofkid
@TheHobgoblyn
@TheHobgoblyn 7 жыл бұрын
It is called "alias".
@edwardnashton9277
@edwardnashton9277 7 жыл бұрын
In Gotham he supports Penguin.
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 7 жыл бұрын
Like he's is AA sponsor? That kinda support?
@aredjayc2858
@aredjayc2858 7 жыл бұрын
A sh*t supporter for w*nkers
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 7 жыл бұрын
He is the Deputy Mayor to Penguins Mayor. And I do think the whole Gay Pengy for Riddler is just a silly storyline and has only lead to him being an overbearing stalker to Eddies GF before... **spoilers** killing her off.
@friendofgaming7670
@friendofgaming7670 7 жыл бұрын
penguin is not gay. He just does not know the difference between friendship and love.
@friendofgaming7670
@friendofgaming7670 7 жыл бұрын
Just because Barbra acknowledges it, still does not mean its true. #womenarecrazy
@theswedishdude1
@theswedishdude1 7 жыл бұрын
the russian thing was actually kinda funny.
@Gakusangi
@Gakusangi 7 жыл бұрын
I thought Jim Carry played the Riddler the way he did because of Frank Gorshin's performance in the 1960's Batman television series.
@Ashtarte3D
@Ashtarte3D 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you shouldn't be shitting on the Batman continuity when you say the Joker's real name is Jack Napier. It's not. That was only in the first Batman movie by Burton. In the comics it's a completely different dude.
@Kingcj2001
@Kingcj2001 7 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget the name Joseph Kerr. Joe Kerr. I think that is more groan worthy. XD
@BurningDogFace
@BurningDogFace 7 жыл бұрын
In fairness, "Joe Kerr" was an alias the Joker made up for the specific purpose of it being so obvious that it couldn't fail to get Batman's attention, which of course he thought was _hilarious_.
@Kingcj2001
@Kingcj2001 7 жыл бұрын
DC did try to canonize it by naming Joker's wife from the Killing Joke Jeannie Kerr. Just something else they'd like people to forget. XD
@enderhayes4211
@enderhayes4211 7 жыл бұрын
and they also made it so that backstory possibly wasnt true. at the end of him telling it he said hes not sure if thats actually what happened, that if hes going to have a past hed prefer it "be multiple choice"
@Kingcj2001
@Kingcj2001 7 жыл бұрын
Erebus Dark It's true. In my book, the Joker is just the Joker. Nothing more and nothing less. The mystery is the fun part. All we know without doubt is Red Hood and chemical bath. Anything else is superfluous.
@teababe27
@teababe27 7 жыл бұрын
I actually kinda liked Jim Carey as the Riddler, but *shrugs*.
@squidwardstesticles5914
@squidwardstesticles5914 4 жыл бұрын
The extremely on the nose real names for batman villains is hilarious. There’s also Pamela Isley for Poison Ivy and Victor Fries for Mr. Freeze
@Rpground
@Rpground 7 жыл бұрын
"Terrible Riddles" No, that was the best riddle...ever! Spent a good 4 minutes laughing on that one.
@sofiamatos8297
@sofiamatos8297 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Englund?! As in, Freddy Krueger's Robert Englund? That's awesome! I'll be waiting until the day Bane is voiced by Kane Hodder.
@Werewolf914
@Werewolf914 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was amazing I loved The Batman, such a great cartoon, and I liked the different character styles, it was cool.
@ComicWriter-ml3qt
@ComicWriter-ml3qt 6 жыл бұрын
Sofia Matos Jason as bane? That would be awesome as shit
@maccyninja6061
@maccyninja6061 6 жыл бұрын
Except Jason doesn't talk.
@Wasabs
@Wasabs 7 жыл бұрын
I realised joker and riddler have the same colour scheme
@Savra
@Savra 7 жыл бұрын
And Lex Luthor in his Armor.
@Rebazar
@Rebazar 7 жыл бұрын
In very different proportions though. Riddler tends to focus more on the green, Joker more on the purple.
@TlalocW
@TlalocW 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot different versions of Catwoman from the 70s/80s when she wore a purple outfit with a cape that had green trimmings. This is because the good guys have been traditionally depicted in primary colors - red, blue, yellow (or some combination). Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Batman (primarily blue when old school). You see those colors, and generally the person sporting them are going to be the good guys (like good cowboys wore white hats). So you drop to the secondary colors - green, orange, and purple (Joker having all 3 if he's wearing an orange vest with his purple suit) - for the baddies - or for characters who don't really fit one morality or the other like the Hulk - green with purple pants. Of course, there are exceptions, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Aquaman (orange and green), Reverse Flash, etc.
@ThePlanetJupiter
@ThePlanetJupiter 7 жыл бұрын
Old comics coloring techniques had limited palettes. Villain colors leaned towards purple, orange, green. Hero colors leaned red, yellow, blue.
@Pastafari4
@Pastafari4 7 жыл бұрын
JorEl C He should just keep to Green/ Black
@calebwilliams9830
@calebwilliams9830 7 жыл бұрын
That's the worst name? Might I remind you of Paris franz and the was in 2016
@jled787
@jled787 7 жыл бұрын
Humphry Dumpler...you can guess his Criminal Alias.
@sonofchlar6144
@sonofchlar6144 7 жыл бұрын
his nickname was Randolph Scott.
@hunterwhittington1926
@hunterwhittington1926 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Williams Also Joker's name was Joe Kerr at one point
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 7 жыл бұрын
... Red Riding Hood?
@lyricalexander108
@lyricalexander108 5 жыл бұрын
Rainbow Rider is Roy G. Biv
@64Studios101
@64Studios101 7 жыл бұрын
0:54 Actually, the Joker appeared quite a lot in the Golden Age.
@joshr408
@joshr408 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized, if they decide to make a "kid friendly" campy live action batman, Jim Carey would probably do a good choice for Joker.
@geauxburns
@geauxburns 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mind seeing Riddler apear as a villain in Season Six of Arrow; even though he already exists in Gotham; perhaps they could hire Cory Michael Smith to portray a more fully fledged Riddler who for whatever reason decided to flee Gotham.
@luckyducky0411
@luckyducky0411 7 жыл бұрын
arrow is complete trash
@yrwestillhere
@yrwestillhere 7 жыл бұрын
Flash is complete trash. Mine rhymed.
@chazbono3721
@chazbono3721 7 жыл бұрын
gotham was canceled
@damianlafrance7353
@damianlafrance7353 7 жыл бұрын
Chaz Bono no it isn't you turd
@paulerate
@paulerate 7 жыл бұрын
hheehHEHEheEHHEEH go to trutHCOnteSTCOm< ReaD The preSent
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 7 жыл бұрын
Well, in the Arkham series his real name is, Edward Nashton. He changed his name to Edward Nigma.
@davetorres3906
@davetorres3906 6 жыл бұрын
I loved Marlyn Manson's makeover, actually, The Batman it's easily my favorite Batman show
@dislexic498
@dislexic498 7 жыл бұрын
OI, I actually like the 2004 Batman cartoon...I will admit that the first time I saw the Riddlers design I wondered what in the world the artest were smoking, but still.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 7 жыл бұрын
Weird thing is, if I recall correctly, the first episode the RIddler appeared in (in that series) first aired the day Frank Gorshin passed away.
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 7 жыл бұрын
Compared to the garbage they produced and have been producing since then, yeah The Batman wasn't so bad. Riddler and joker were awful looking, but the cartoon itself wasn't bad and the last season was almost like the justice league.
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 7 жыл бұрын
Joker looked great in The Batman.
@dislexic498
@dislexic498 7 жыл бұрын
I second that! I love the Jokers design.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry but no to Rastafarian Joker. The thing that bugged the most was the bare feet and the 'monkey' style fighting. That is just not Joker.
@maxcardun
@maxcardun 7 жыл бұрын
How about that Edward Nygma is not his real name? He changed it to Edward Nygma.
@burningstar1793
@burningstar1793 5 жыл бұрын
His name is Robert Paulson.
@SuddenJeff
@SuddenJeff 7 жыл бұрын
The best version of The Riddler was Jeremy Irons in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
@K4rt80y
@K4rt80y 7 жыл бұрын
Ah-ah-ahh! Simon didn't say!
@Ike_of_pyke
@Ike_of_pyke 7 жыл бұрын
#9. To me, I will never forget that as both a Manson fan and the episode regarding his origin. For those who didn't watch it, you go through the typical "mad genius origin" of a guy who is isn't recognized for his work and overshadowed by a jockish type of guy who runs the company and funds his research. Edward also has a love interest who has all his proclivities and enjoys his riddles and works along side him at the same place. Seemingly at the moment of Edward's glory his newest invention goes array and he is disgraced after some examination it's obvious his device has been tampered with and he blames the guy who runs the company and becomes the riddler to get revenge. *But There's a twist* it's only after being stuck with batman (which is the narrative framing device for how his origin is told as both think they're about to die a slow painful death at the bottom of gotham bay) and going over his origin does he figure out that it's the girl who he liked ,who stayed with the company guy after he left, who tampered with his device. Riddler escapes and tries to kill her but batman stops him and arrest him. As he and Robin(who got introduced in season 3) leave, batman says the riddle "When is a villain not *the* villain?" as the picture holds on a clearly hurt and dejected Riddler's face.
@EditDeath
@EditDeath 7 жыл бұрын
#1 is a good point. Being a supporting character definitely worked in Assault on Arkham, where the focus was on so many other villains.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 7 жыл бұрын
Batman Beyond was as good as The Animated Series. Fucking fight me!
@ButchDickey
@ButchDickey 7 жыл бұрын
it was really good, but come on LOL
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 7 жыл бұрын
ButchDickey It was really good, until Justice League Unlimited ruined Terry with an origin story straight out of Metal Gear Solid.
@rougelicense7663
@rougelicense7663 7 жыл бұрын
Son of Tiamat Ha
@nintendohandheld9556
@nintendohandheld9556 7 жыл бұрын
I like this comment. No fighting.
@timberwolfbrother
@timberwolfbrother 7 жыл бұрын
Batman Beyond was really awesome. Still wanna see Adam West as old Bruce Wayne.
@thebananamelon5065
@thebananamelon5065 7 жыл бұрын
Why did The Riddler go to rehab after he served his time in Arkham? Cuz he couldn't stop Ritalin
@nicholastosoni707
@nicholastosoni707 5 жыл бұрын
OH, YOU
@kevins4960
@kevins4960 7 жыл бұрын
Well, his real name isn't Edward Nigma
@legendkidd3242
@legendkidd3242 7 жыл бұрын
Its Jim Carrey.
@Reagan1984
@Reagan1984 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually Eddie Nashton
@alexgaray1216
@alexgaray1216 7 жыл бұрын
AMERICA! Yeah right
@alexgaray1216
@alexgaray1216 7 жыл бұрын
AMERICA! I'm being sarcastic if u can't tell
@thatoneguyonahorse6570
@thatoneguyonahorse6570 7 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Jim Carry as the Riddler
@ajrbenn7526
@ajrbenn7526 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Tom or 7 so far apparently
@shkstyle
@shkstyle 7 жыл бұрын
he was brilliant
@justrob9252
@justrob9252 7 жыл бұрын
That One Guy On A Horse same
@FewDiePieAlen
@FewDiePieAlen 7 жыл бұрын
That One Guy On A Horse me too
@AlexGreat321
@AlexGreat321 7 жыл бұрын
Same. I actually like Batman Forever. It's second favourite Batman movie of the Burton/Schumacher ones (Batman 89 is the first)
@thefanwithoutaface8105
@thefanwithoutaface8105 7 жыл бұрын
Hey The Batman version of the Riddler was cool and interesting, personally I preferred that incarnation to the one from Batman the animated series since he came across as more clever and intelligent compared to the more over the top and at times goofy Riddler from Batman the Animated Series. And I will fight anyone who disagrees with me on that.
@payasoloco6282
@payasoloco6282 7 жыл бұрын
Mista Anonymous OH HOW DARE SOMEONE HAS AN OPINION
@MistaAnonymous
@MistaAnonymous 7 жыл бұрын
Psycho Clown ikr disgraceful
@Blackbird26155
@Blackbird26155 7 жыл бұрын
Hey I agree with you! Especially once we learn his backstory which adds a bit of tragedy to it once we find out the twist. Whereas in TAS he became The Riddler because...his boss was a jerk. Yeah not so remarkable when you put it like that, is it?
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 7 жыл бұрын
I had real issues with the visual designs of most, if not all, of the characters on that show. It was like they were trying way too hard to do something no one had done before, without realizing there was a reason no one had done that before. I did like Robert Englund as the voice, he's good in anything he does, no matter what.
@lokir9959
@lokir9959 7 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you there sir. I loved his backstory and really enjoyed his portrayal. If only his costume didn't look so stupid, not to mention his hair and makeup.
@truttlebear7999
@truttlebear7999 7 жыл бұрын
The Riddler was my most favorite villian from the Batman series. And his 2 episodes for the beginning seasons of Batman the Animated series were the best portrayals of him ever. Unlike the later versions where he no longer uses riddles.
@sbird8675
@sbird8675 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the TAS version is that one of the main writers/creators hated Riddler which is why he wasn't introduced until episode 41. The creator felt Riddler was too silly for the tone of the series, but was pressured into using him because of his popularity with fans. He decided if he was going to be forced to use the character, he would make him a darker, more serious threat. Thus, one of the Riddler's best portrayals was born.
@devintorres4197
@devintorres4197 7 жыл бұрын
WoW I just stumbles across these videos and they are great!!!!!! keep this gold coming man
@bfitz82
@bfitz82 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, Jim Carrey did good work. Him and Jones looked like they were having fun in the movie.
@Geck0GC
@Geck0GC 4 жыл бұрын
Linguistic crimes? Joker doesn't do that. Joker didn't turn to crime because he was bored, he is insane.
@AndroidTyphoon
@AndroidTyphoon 5 жыл бұрын
as a big riddler fan, i gotta say that you've hit almost every nail on the head with this video
@seandecastro
@seandecastro 7 жыл бұрын
These are really good points ! Thank you .
@musikosivo
@musikosivo 7 жыл бұрын
How bout Johnny Depp almost becomes the Riddler?
@apolosno25
@apolosno25 7 жыл бұрын
Bobby White if it was in the time Burton ones...it could have been okay
@darknes2742
@darknes2742 7 жыл бұрын
Bobby White I would've liked to have seen that no lie.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 7 жыл бұрын
I didnt even like Tim Burtons Batman movies, the first one was alright when Burton was reigned in but when they let the cat out of the bag and gave him more creative control, it jumped the shark on the sequel.
@Jared_Wignall
@Jared_Wignall 7 жыл бұрын
I remember the rumors that Depp was going to be The Riddler in The Dark Knight Rises two years before the film came out.
@Sener
@Sener 7 жыл бұрын
"has been a big part of every adaptation of the dark knight". Except uh the fucking dark knight trilogy, where he's nowhere to be seen? Only on the arguably most relevant modern version of Batman?
@Moribax85
@Moribax85 7 жыл бұрын
ehm, "the dark knight" is one of batman's nicknames...
@steelersguy74
@steelersguy74 7 жыл бұрын
Sener Mr. Reese was considered a nod to the Riddler.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 7 жыл бұрын
To bad they didn't actually do anything with him. Might have been better than their 'realistic' Bane and that awful accent. I always thought it sounded like Elmer Fudd doing a really awful German accent like he was on "Hogan's Heroes" or something.
@Sener
@Sener 7 жыл бұрын
Moribax85 What..? What is your point? What in the fuck are you trying to say?
@Dogan_TM
@Dogan_TM 7 жыл бұрын
You're writing a KZfaq comment on the internet. Calm your shit.
@r.babylon2885
@r.babylon2885 7 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see a Batman adaptation where Riddler is the "primary" villain. But not just that. He slowly morphs from a calm, confident, genius villain into a wild, utterly insane monster. Basically, I'd love to see one adaptation where Riddler BECOMES Joker.
@RowdyRodimus
@RowdyRodimus 7 жыл бұрын
So pretty much every Riddler story from the 1966 Batman TV Show? I'[m sown with that but I still think nobody could ever pull off the Riddler as well as Frank Gorshin did. He is to The Riddler what Peter Cullen is to Optimus Prime.
@derekpabon834
@derekpabon834 7 жыл бұрын
Allen Babylon Do hope you checked out Batman:Year Zero by Scott Snyder. It's my favorite Riddler storyline, and he practically "destroys" Gotham City. How's that for a second-string supervillain?
@INFERNO95
@INFERNO95 7 жыл бұрын
In the hands of a good writer the riddler can be a great villain. the problem is the writers are so obsess whit the damn joker that they don't give him or any other villain a chance.
@r.babylon2885
@r.babylon2885 7 жыл бұрын
INFERNO95 Yeah, I'd love to see more Scarecrow and Clayface, myself. Like, imagine a story where Psycho Pirate manipulates Clayface into adopting the Bat Family's forms and committing murders. Not only that, but he plants evidence to direct them after Joker. Meanwhile, Scarecrow plants his toxin in powder form on police tools and civilian car doors to spread paranoia about the bad press. Sorry, I went on a tangent there. It's just so hard to find good stories without Joker.
@vikar25
@vikar25 7 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good analysis. Very good.
@DKFlash22
@DKFlash22 7 жыл бұрын
idk why Jim Carrey's Riddler always get so much crap. I loved it personally
@32160430
@32160430 7 жыл бұрын
DKFlash22 like seriously he wasn't even that bad at playing him. Yes he had a comedic tone to them but it made the character better especially for the film and the film wasn't that bad either imo
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but even as a kid I knew Jim Carrey should have been the Joker, not the Riddler.
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 7 жыл бұрын
They did him really very well in Gotham with the slow burn until they decided to suddenly rush him into full fledged villainy - The Actor playing him however has done a magnificent job! Batman Forever however is outright the worst Batman Movie of all time - Yes far worse even than Batman & Robin! TBH Tommy Lee Jones Two Face is also awful and by far Tommy Lee Jones' worst ever performance! While Kilmer and O'Donnell aren't good either {O'Donnell for me is actually better in Batman & Robin.}.
@ScreamingScallop
@ScreamingScallop 7 жыл бұрын
He also works as a Green Arrow villain because we must #neverforget that (as noted in "Batman: The Brave and the Bold") for a long time GA himself was just a Batman knockoff who wore his utility belt on his back--he had an Arrowcar, an Arrowplane, an Arrowcave, a young boy sidekick, even an Arrowsignal for the cops to summon him. (What he NEVER had, until he hooked up with the JLA, Green Lantern and Black Canary, was a Commissioner Gordon or Alfred or anybody interesting to interact with in his own stories aside from his sidekick.) I'm not bothered by Jim Carrey's Riddler. Is it any less whackaloon than Frank Gorshin's portrayal? And yet Gorshin's Riddler and Romero's Joker are both iconic portrayals that stand on their own side by side. (On the other hand, John Astin's "grounded" Riddler--when he VERY briefly took over the role from Gorshin--is completely forgettable.) Hey, didn't Riddler have his own girl sidekick that he ultimately murdered when he "went bad" again? DC probably wants everyone to forget that they used to regularly and merrily depict everything from cannibalism to strangulation to rape just to get sickos to drop a few bucks for some violent whacking material.
@edwardnygma8533
@edwardnygma8533 7 жыл бұрын
ScreamingScallop I belive her name was Query.
@thotpatrol7753
@thotpatrol7753 5 жыл бұрын
He murdered his own "daughter." I use quotations because I can't remember whether she was his or not. He also (under demon possession, to be fair,) forced a baby to swallow a ping pong ball so that Batman would have to give the baby an emergency tracheotomy- slitting an unbaptized baby's throat was part of a ritual to strengthen the demon, I think.
@isaiahowens5322
@isaiahowens5322 7 жыл бұрын
"The Batman" had the best villian reformations. I really did enjoy the new ways each character acted.
@SwirlyJoe
@SwirlyJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Victor Von Doom is a much more ridiculous name than Ed. Nygma
@rapidzz9034
@rapidzz9034 6 жыл бұрын
I love the Riddler of the TV series Gotham he is my second favorite character because nothing can beat Gotham's Penguin
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Napier. Alan Napier ( Alfred on 66.Batman.show). Jack Napier. The Joker , 1989 Batman movie.. What The.????. " Don't Call me Jack, Call me.JOKER!!!!", ( then he kills Jack.Palance's character.) What a play on names.
@joker-sh5hv
@joker-sh5hv 7 жыл бұрын
Whatculture you're doing great, this video got me thinking that expanding to a comic book channel and putting your channel's multiple personalities behind it could make for another 100,000 subbed channel. Keep it up guys!
@grantwilson4506
@grantwilson4506 7 жыл бұрын
I think in some mediums they said that the Riddler's real name is "Edward Nash" but he used "Edward Nigma" as an alias in both the spirit of his crimes and to cover his identity
@robertpolanco1973
@robertpolanco1973 7 жыл бұрын
I hope that next time that there be a segment on the top 10 things to remember about the Riddler by DC Comics. I like the character because of his comical genius. The late Frank Gorshin made the character memorable on the "Batman" TV series in the 1960's.
@supatwisted5473
@supatwisted5473 7 жыл бұрын
Watching Suicide Squad, I thought Jared Leto was doing a bad riddler
@TheDamino
@TheDamino 7 жыл бұрын
Damn lol
@burningstar1793
@burningstar1793 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. He was just playing a bad version of Casper, the Friendly Ghost.
@jerekheadrick3379
@jerekheadrick3379 7 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed The Batman's version of the Riddler. Sure he may look a bit silly but his character was pretty well done. The episode with Batman and he in a sinking metal container is one of the few episodes of that show I distinctly remember.
@thefinalsin47
@thefinalsin47 7 жыл бұрын
"if you disagree I will fight you" just couldn't help but laugh
@tommycipriani2254
@tommycipriani2254 7 жыл бұрын
Nigma being abused by his father was also mentioned in Arkham Asylum, doubt DC wants to forget about it.
@dylanundead8379
@dylanundead8379 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Jim Carrey as the Joker. Can we all agree that would be great?
@RainMoontide
@RainMoontide 7 жыл бұрын
these are some excellent points. bravo
@damotoneko1500
@damotoneko1500 7 жыл бұрын
You bring up pretty interesting and good points. While i think the Riddler is a Batman villian, the idea of having his high intellect used to solve crimes is rather cool, infact. He may just become one of my favorite DC goodguys if he did. I like his puns. Although he could also go abit further by using the hard ones. Ranging from puns, to riddles, to very hard puzzles. 1. What is the heaviest bird in the city? The crane. 2. A cowboy rode into a town on friday, he stayed three days and then left on friday. How is this possible? 3. You release a horde of zombies, you, the assistant, the scientist and the janitor flee and arrive at the rope bridge. It can only support 2 and you cannot cross without the lantern. The zombies will take 17 minutes to catch up. You can cross in 1 minute, the assistant takes 2 minutes, the janitor takes 5 minutes and the proffessor takes 10 minutes. How will you all cross in time? He could use some variation ranging from easy to hard :D
@RowdyRodimus
@RowdyRodimus 7 жыл бұрын
#2 The horse he was riding was named Friday #3 Since the bridge can support 2, there isn't any problem since the longest it would take for the four walking in pairs to cross is 10 minutes for the professor. As for Riddler solving crimes, just before the 89 Batman came out I wrote a story for English class in where The Riddler does just that. He becomes a private eye and gains the trust of Batman and the GCPD. The cases were impossible to solve but somehow Nygma did it and they put a lot of criminal leaders in prison. However, it turns out HE was the one committing the crimes, making them impossible to solve and making sure to leave false evidence that would implicate the crime bosses so he could take over Gotham's Underworld.
@damotoneko1500
@damotoneko1500 7 жыл бұрын
RowdyRodimus 2. Correct! 3. BZZZZZZzzz Nope. You cannot cross without a lanter so they need to go back everytime to get the others. Dang. That's an interesting plot.
@DrLipkin
@DrLipkin 7 жыл бұрын
Riddler went straight and became a private investigator in the aughts. And it was great. Especially because Penguin had also gone straight at the time, realizing he could make better profits capitalizing on his reputation to run the Iceberg Lounge and gouging people on T-shirt prices. There was even a bit where Gotham was going to hell around them, and Penguin and Riddler are just sitting in the otherwise empty Iceberg Lounge drinking. Penguin mentions that the Lounge is willed to Riddler should anything happen to Penguin. They clink glasses, and it's a nice moment. Reformed Riddler was also a supporting character in Gotham City Sirens, which was about Catwoman, Harley Quinn, and Poison Ivy all living in a house together trying to get by. Whoever made Riddler crazy again is dumb.
@damotoneko1500
@damotoneko1500 7 жыл бұрын
DrLipkin That sounds like a very cool idea. But would it really be the iceberg lounge if the Penguin was out of the picture? Really? Wait, if he's reformed then why is he supporting Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn and catwoman? You mean in the later incarnations such as the cartoons? Or did you mean chronologically in the comics?
@DrLipkin
@DrLipkin 7 жыл бұрын
DA MotoNeko At the end of the day, the Iceberg Lounge is an establishment. At the time, it was being branded as a place where rich socialites could get their thrills by rubbing elbows with the criminal underworld. Criminals knew Penguin wouldn't narc on them (not actually true, as he was informing for Batman at the time), and the yuppies were tricked into feeling at ease by how fancy the place was. None of that is dependent upon Penguin. Catwoman, Ivy, and Harley were on the right side of the law at the time too, trying to keep their noses clean. Batman and Gordon both knew where they lived and were keeping tabs on them.
@harrynotpotter7202
@harrynotpotter7202 4 жыл бұрын
Please forget about every riddler except for the 60's one and the arkham series
@nick-sherer
@nick-sherer 7 жыл бұрын
Actually he changed his name to E.Nigma when he left his father
@TheChester920
@TheChester920 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. That was going to bother me all night. Of course that name is just too coincidental, it's fake.
@bigginboggin5973
@bigginboggin5973 7 жыл бұрын
TheChester920 Yuhp. His name was actually "Eddie Nashton", if I'm not mistaken.
@BubblesZap
@BubblesZap 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair though, the backstory in The Batman for the riddler is amazing.
@MattHawes
@MattHawes 7 жыл бұрын
Despite the claim at the beginning of this video, The Joker made numerous appearances in comics of the 1940s' & 1950s'. He was definitely a recurring and popular villain. It is correct the Joker was meant to die in his first story, but the creators realized there was something special about the character and changed the original ending so that the villain survived. His role as a murderer was downplayed by the advent of the Silver Age of comics, though. The Riddler made only two Golden Age appearances before returning in the 1960s' comics and in the 1966 TV series.
@stephenrowley4171
@stephenrowley4171 7 жыл бұрын
I don't mind Jim Carrie version. but yeah overall that film not very good
@manel6706
@manel6706 7 жыл бұрын
enigma is almost like inigma that in portuguese means riddle.
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to go that far Enigma is also a synonym for puzzle
@Xegethra
@Xegethra 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't think Carey's Riddler was that bad. The whole concept of Batman is ludicrous anyway, it can't always take itself too seriously.
@NashTheBlade
@NashTheBlade 7 жыл бұрын
I particularly rather liked the whole Riddler Reformed angle, in fact he was one of the very few Batman villains I wanted to see reformed...Along with Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Clayface(TAS version), The Ventriloquist, Haley Quinn, Deadshot, The Mad Hatter(TAS version), Talia Al Ghul (BEFORE The Roofie Cocktail that created Damian Wayne...BEFORE she RAPED Batman!), and but of course, Two-Face
@GenerationX1984
@GenerationX1984 7 жыл бұрын
Batman The Animated Series was the greatest Batman cartoon of all time. They will never be able to make a better one.
@bludj992
@bludj992 7 жыл бұрын
BTBaTB was good
@rhunter42dragon
@rhunter42dragon 7 жыл бұрын
+Blu Dj No it wasn't. Perhaps it's just because I'm comparing it to Batman The Animated Series, but I've always considered The Brave and The Bold to be awful. I might even go so far as to call it a Sh*t Batman cartoon for W*nkers #SH*TBATMANCARTOONFORW*NKERS (Still not as bad as "The Batman" though)
@bludj992
@bludj992 7 жыл бұрын
rhunter42dragon I liked both The Batman and BTBaTB. Really, almost anything Batman 'cause I've never seen a Batman adaptation that was TRULY AWEFUL and I'm a Marvel fan. I'm supposed (supposedly) to find the worst in DC
@DEADtoRISE08
@DEADtoRISE08 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't his real name Edward Nashton
@lousanus1660
@lousanus1660 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@remc0s
@remc0s 7 жыл бұрын
You are correct, sir-The Riddler's real name is Edward Nashton. He came up with the name Nigma when he decided to become the Riddler. So basically Nigma is an alias as well.
@edwardnashton9277
@edwardnashton9277 7 жыл бұрын
YES!
@adamsandlerbirthedmeinapit4853
@adamsandlerbirthedmeinapit4853 7 жыл бұрын
Correct
@lokir9959
@lokir9959 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is. But I do like Edward Nygma/Nigma better to be honest.
@Cassibales123
@Cassibales123 7 жыл бұрын
Some of these I actually enjoyed.
@BrainComm487
@BrainComm487 7 жыл бұрын
Hm. The Batman" is one of my favourite versions of the show and I'm really fond of their takes on Joker and Riddler. But that's just me; the beautiful thing about Batman is that there's so much of it, if you don't like this one, there'll be another one along in a few years. I didn't know he'd been farmed out to Green Arrow, I'd like to see that on screen.
@ARCWuLF
@ARCWuLF 7 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Edward Nigma another alias? I could have sworn he had a much more mundane name earlier on...
@fl11ts
@fl11ts 7 жыл бұрын
But Riddler's birth name isn't E. Nigma, its Edward Nashton, He just changed it later, cause, u know, beatings and stuff
@nathanielkamps782
@nathanielkamps782 7 жыл бұрын
"and if you disagree I will fight you" best quote ever
@Superman101093
@Superman101093 7 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Do more comic 10 things they want you to forget. DC or marvel. Love it
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