Thank you for having me be a part of this video Minty!! 😊🦇

My take on the "Martha" scene is that Bruce realized that Clark actually posessed humanity -- loved ones, a family, selfless concern for others. And, that Bruce himself with all his twisted brutality was the one who had sank to subhuman. He sort of woke up to the fact that maybe they weren't so different.

Don't care what anyone thinks, I love this movie and it will always be one of my fave movies forever

Fun Fact: BvS is a masterpiece 👌

IMO The warehouse scene is the only comics accurate portrayal of a Batman fight we’ve ever really seen. I love this movie for that scene alone.

Jessie Eisenberg played Luthor exactly how he plays every character… mumbling and flighty.

Fun fact: Gal Gadot was a combat fitness instructor in the irasel defense force and she was miss irasel also. Great choice for Wonder woman.

About the “Martha” scene, I think that when Superman said “Martha”, it reminded Bruce that that was the last word his father said before he died. Throughout the movie, Alfred kept warning Bruce about going too far in his fight against criminals and about how Superman isn’t their enemy. So hearing “Martha” from Superman, he now finds himself in the position of potentially becoming the kind of person that took his parents lives, and becoming the murderer that created Batman in the first place. That’s what stopped him. The music being played in this scene is also the same as the scene in which his parents died, so I think that’s the reasoning behind the scene.

The line in the trailer that had me hooked immediately: "Tell me, do you bleed? *Superman lands on the street ...You will!!!"

I thoroughly loved this movie and stand by it.

The Director's Cut is a 9.5/10 for me. Nearly all the risks they took to modernize and add complexity to these characters made them so interesting and distinguished from any other interpretation before them. This is the movie that made me appreciate Superman again after I lost interest for the character as an adult. Also, I never understood some who thought DC should have copied Marvel by having solo films for every hero before the big "team-up" movie. Movies naturally have multiple characters in them: main characters & supporting. We all understand that. It's simple. They all play their roles and develop as the plot demands. Before I watch Seven Samurai, I don't feel angry that I didn't get a solo film each of the title samurai, I just enjoy (or don't) the experience the film is trying to create.

Love this film so much, one of my favourite comic book films ever! Good example of a film that gained a big following years after release

To me the Ultimate Edition is the intended version and also one of my favorite comic book movies.

This was a crazy movie, but Ben Affleck as Batman and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman were fantastic. The warehouse fight being a highlight. Henry Cavill as Superman was good.

The warehouse fight scene is what convinced me that Batfleck is the complete package. He looks like a Bruce Wayne and he kicked Criminal Ass as good as Batman could at the spear of his prime. Plus that Jaw line 👌🏼

Say what you will, that warehouse fight was bad ass!

A couple of things. The Ultimate Edition wasn't a response to poor anything. The Ultimate Edition is the director's cut that was created first. WB decided it was too long and asked for 30 minutes to be removed. Removing 1/6 of any story rarely does something positive. It was even announced a full month before the theatrical cut was released. This is a significant part of why the movie was reviewed so badly. When Lex planned for Batman and Superman to fight he didn't know about Doomsday. Once he gains it as an option it becomes a contingency plan in case Batman fails. The fight between them also gives him the perfect opportunity to create Doomsday because both of them, especially Superman are too busy to know about it and stop it. This movie is the 2nd part of a 5 part movie arc. Saying it's wrong to use Doomsday like this and too soon to kill off Superman so soon would mean dragging it out to more than 5 movies, which wasn't the plan. No one is getting upset that Bale Batman retired as Batman after 3 movies. Sometimes you have to let the filmmaker do their thing. I think killing off Superman early, like Gandalf and Obi-Wan were drives the other characters to join together and create the group (or league). Why would anyone bother putting the team together if Superman was always there and more capable than all of them? The death of Superman perfect reason.

I saw Batman v. Superman in the local IMAX cinema here in the Philippines on opening day in 2016. The cinema was fully packed!

A great movie..the extended version is even better. It'll be legendary years from now.

I actually always liked this movie. I feel that Ben Affleck was one of the best Batmans ever, Looking forward to this video, thanks.

I remember seeing a billboard for this film in “I am legend”

I actually really like this film (the extended cut). This and man of steel were my favorite of the dceu.

The animated Doomsday movie you mentioned is good, but the two part animated movie series The Death Of Superman/Reign of the Supermen REALLY does the story much more justice!

I for one absolutely love this movie. The extended cut though

This movie was, in its own way, a breath of fresh air from the sophomoric humor of the Marvel films. As for the "Martha" thing, anyone who thinks it's "stupid" might want to read up on the kinds of things that can trigger PTSD among combatants who have been in many kill-or-be-killed situations.

"SAVE... MINTY!" "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!"

In my honest opinion I loved Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, and Gal Gadot playing as the DC Trinity (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman respectively) for this film. And yes despite some of its many problems I was still watch this many more times than the Flash Film, which I will say having Michael Keaton and Sasha Callie (Both as Batman 89 and Supergirl respectively), are the highlight of that film.

As a huge fan of Frank Miller's '"The Dark Knight Returns,'" I loved how this film truly captures the dark, grittiness inherent in that story. And Ben Affleck was the perfect casting choice... THE best "on screen" Batman to date, imho. At the same time Minty, I agree 💯% that they crammed way too much into this film & were very flippant with some of the traditional characters (ie Jimmy Olsen), thus giving themselves away with what's wrong with every "franchise" movie these days: *Hollywood has ZERO RESPECT!* --For the characters; --For the traditional story lines; but mostly, *--FOR THE FANS!* And until they get THAT back, they're going to keep having multi-billion dollar flop$ on their hands...

Minty, you treated this controversial movie very respectfully and like you I can appreciate other peoples opinion provided they can back it up. Also interesting enough it wasn’t the dialogue but the delivery that made Lex so unLex and if you listen to the delivery in a more self confident and calm menacing voice it really makes a difference. Also I think Doomsday being a monster that took the DC trinity to take down was both fitting and enjoyable

This was a great movie!!! I've watched it a bunch of times and love it every time!

The director’s cut is a great movie and in some ways a masterpiece. As a Frank Miller fan, going darker, especially when considering the Dark Knight, is always a choice I will get behind. Having spoken with Snyder a number of times, it is clear his aim was true and “Zack Snyder’s Justice League,” for me, at least, proved that because it IS a masterpiece.

Minty, I think this was one of your best-scripted videos -- and they're all good. Thanks for what you do and keep rockin'!

Wonder Woman was my favorite part of this movie!!!

I think the differences between those who liked and those who hated this film can be summed up into whether or not that individual comprehends subtext.

I’ve been saying for years that Billy Zane would be a perfect Lex Luther.

People don't like Superman 3?? Some people are nuts.. I LOVE Superman 3! Great upload Minty, Ty

Just wanna say that what you said at the end there is exactly how and what people SHOULD ALWAYS truly be thinking and doing: giving an open mind to what others who have a different opinion from you have to say, no matter what no matter how otherwise it may seem :-)

The Extended Edition of this makes it a fine film. I hate that so much was cut for the theatrical release. Yes, it’s not a perfect film, but I still enjoy watching it when I come across it while channel surfing. I wish instead of titling it Batman V Superman, it was titled something like DC Trinity or Worlds Finest….DC just didn’t want to take their time and we’re seeing the effects of this today with how they’re struggling to get people to care for their films in the post Snyderverse world.

Definitely have to give you props for that last line of this video. I was absolutely dying when you pulled the Martha line. 😂😂😂 Great video!

THANK YOU! I'm a big fan of the Synderverse.

I absolutely love these films!

It’s an Amazing film, that’s all we need know

Batman and Superman are in my top 3 superheros, so I was so very hyped for this movie, and completely crushed after seeing it. I gave it another chance at home with the directors cut and could easily spot stuff that was cut from the theatrical and noticed how the issues I had with the flow of the film were fixed with the extra content. I have grown to love it, though not as a favorite film, but I would never recommend someone watch the theatrical cut first.

Christian bale said he wouldn't do it without Nolan and Nolans blessing. He also said he ALMOST did it because he loved the character and didn't wanna see someone else take it.... He eventually didn't so it but talk to Ben about the suit and told him to make sure they had a zipper in it so he could pee.... Which he had done

Words can not describe how much I amor this movie because it does make you think. The only people I know that did not like this movie where the hard core marvel fans because it was nothing like the avengers. I totally concur with Chris review on Ben as Batman but not only just Batman I amor the music in this movie and little hints of allegory used in the film to make the audience think alittle.

This should have been a MONUMENTAL movie in the same way Star Wars and Jurassic Park achieved!!!

As this movie Luthor mentioned his father when showing off the portrait he had of the angels and demons I always took it that this was Alexander Luthor Jr. who was from Earth-Three and not Earth Prime.

Strange but I would be interested in an Adam Driver's Nightwing.

Thanks for doing this one, Minty. I wasn't convinced when it first came out. I actually didn't see it until a friend loaned me the DVD. And then the other heroes showing up was basically the thing that made me not hate it. I agree about it being convoluted, and it's hard to enjoy a story if it doesn't feel like it has some cohesion to it. All I got otherwise was that Bruce hated Supes. It just didn't work for me.

Loved it. Still do. Too many people, perhaps, wanted a "Marvel" comic book movie, instead they got "DC."

I agree 100%! A overly stuff film that's way too dark BUT has some redeeming qualities as you pointed out.

I loved this movie. I thought it such a nice change to the sitcoms from Marvel. I will agree that they tried to cram too much into it.

They should of got micheal rossenbaum back to play lex, he was amazing as lex in smallville

The Ultimate Edition is a great superhero conspiracy thriller. Never thought i'll say that for a Batman vs Superman movie, but here we are and i love it 😁

Your resident Dutch follower here, can confirm Junkie XL is pronounced Junkie Ex-el. You did it right!

I enjoyed the film from the beginning, I'm a bia's comic geek. I understood the reasoning for some people dislike. But I held on one thing.... People were going to figure out later that they loved it

I thought that the movie was so-so but it has a lot of really good scenes in it. Would have liked it to be a two-part experience at 2-3 hours each.

Cosplay Chris! Well done guys. Aussie represent.

I absolutely loved this movie.

Amazing film. The Ultimate Edition is the way to go though. Misunderstood and was a social contagion to hate upon. I love this film to pieces.

"No 1 stays good in this world."

I really liked the Martha part, you can't tell me you wouldn't be surprised if the person you're about to finish a fight with says to save someone with the same name as your mother

Your comment about this film taking a simple and compelling premise and convoluting it with too many cooks in the kitchen demanding their ideas be included, is spot on. There were three or four separate good movies here, unfortunately all mashed together and not one of them getting the chance to be fleshed out.

When Gal Gadot was announced as Wonder Woman there was a bit of fan hate as well. At the time I thought that the only way they could make Gadot work as Wonder Woman was to make her more like Xena the warrior princess (amazed no one brings up the similarity). They seemed to have done just that with the WW BvS costume design, but Gadot herself really rose beyond expectations and became an epic Wonder Wonder. I don't even think of Xena now especially since they've brightened Gadot's WW colours. I loved BvS (admittedly it's not perfect), with three iconic superheroes on screen for the first time at once, Gadot, Cavill and Affleck were outstanding. From what I could see at the time, a lot of online fanboys and so called movie critics were fanning the flames of hate for this movie for their own profit. Excellent work here as usual Minty 👍

The moment I heard Affleck was cast, I thought about it for about 3 seconds and realized what a brilliant choice it was. I never understood the hate right after the announcement. I'd love to see him have another go at the character.

The Batman warehouse fight scene was EPIC!!!

I don't care what people think I love this film everyone was cast perfectly I was always a huge fan of the dark night series and thought there was only one who played batman perfectly bale until Ben became batman the more I watched Ben the more I loved his take I know he's done with batman but wish he would do batman one more time for his own movie

The Ultimate Edition is one of my favorite movies of all time🙌🙌🙌

Big fan of this film. Extended cut is great. Feels a bit disjointed in places but the performances and effects are just great. I really enjoy the darker tone and would have liked to see the vision completed on the Snyderverse.

The extended cut is better than the theatrical

My favorite Lex Luthor is Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville. But Jesse Eisenberg is great too, he is playing a confident Lex, but one who's maniacal like he was when he first appeared and Ain Superman: Birthright. I think many saw him and because he wasn't bald or buff it was jarring. We see his facade breaking down in the party scene and how creepy he'd get with the Senator. Each character had to start somewhere and unfortunately we never got the chance to see Lex evolve, like we did with Batman and Superman The Justice League cameos were a 2 minute scene, it wasn't a scene that stopped the flow of the film but one that just let fans know it's a bigger world out there. The Martha scene seems to be misunderstood quite a bit as it's not about the name Martha but about Batman's PTSD. The name was a trigger word, like Tony in Iron Man 3 would freak out at the thought of the events in The Avengers. Very real stuff that soldiers coming from war have to deal with and both films were unfairly criticized for it. I'm sure you're joking with the Martha jokes but you wouldn't believe how many really believe that's what stopped the fight, just the name. Doomsday was just a character meant to kill Superman, that's all the character was created for. Not sure if you read the whole Death and Return of Superman story but it wasn't like Superman and Doomsday fought across all those issues. In fact many of them had other stories where Doomsday would appear as a tease. The Doomsday here isn't even the same version as it's Zod, which was a plot line sort of used in Smallville. But it's Zods son in that show. It' was meant to showcase Lex's intelligence with having a back up plan if Batman failed to kill Superman. I felt great emotion for the death scene because of the story told. Before he sacrifices himself he smiles at Lois and says "This is my world, you're my world" harking back to the conversation he had with his father about how meeting Martha allowed him to finally forgive himself for a tragedy he caused and no longer have nightmares from it. Superman telling her that was him saying he's finally Happy, he knows who he is and is at peace with the world. This is shown further in Zack Snyder's Justice League when he helps the team with confidence and a smile. This death showed the world Superman loved them and we see how even someone wanting to kill him like Batman are now mourning. Having a 2 hour film where most of that is just Superman fighting Doomsday wouldn't have worked. A great film needs a great villain and Doomsday alone isn't that at all. It wasn't studio interference it's what Chris Terrio and Zack Snyder planned as part of a 5 film arc, just like a comic book often has 5 issues to tell one story. Lex's plan was to kill God, he hates God and Superman is the closest he has to God being real. By having Superman kill Batman, he proves that Superman isn't perfect. If Batman kills Superman, he got rid of God. In his mind Lex could control Doomsday, something we see was a misstep on his part. Lex explains this when talking with both Superman and Lois. It makes complete sense when you've paid attention. Doomsday was a Kryptonian weapon that was constantly killed over and over again so it could adapt to any form of killing possible. I do disagree with the mess comments, it's not incoherent at all. I understood it in theaters without the 30 minutes Snyder was forced to take out. There were really only 3 cooks, Zack Snyder and Chris Terrio for the most part and David Goyer early on. The delay of the film was due to reshoots, Gal Gadots training taking longer to complete and WB forcing Snyder to create a universe right away. So time was needed to get David Ayer's Suicide Squad developed and Patty Jenkins Wonder Woman (which Snyder had input on both). If you've seen Zack Snyder's Justice League I'm sure you notice how the characters have evolved from this film and that was always the plan. It just needed people to understand that and unfortunately they didn't. They complained about the studio rushing things but wanted an established goody good Superman on day one and that's not how it works. Many often cite Captain America as close to Superman and even he's flawed and shoots people and no one criticizes that. It's gotten to the point where Marvel can have buildings crashing and the heroes aren't blamed for it but DC needs to have the fights in a desert or else fans complain about people dying in buildings. Not really fair and WB have been dumb enough to listen to it

I liked this movie and it's in my top 100 list of films, but I so agree with you, Minty, when you say that they crammed way too much in. And yes, Eisenberg was too much like the Riddler for my taste. I liked the second half a whole lot more than the earlier half. I also feel the fight between Batman and Superman should lasted longer. And you know what? I love both the Whedon version of Justice League And the Snyder cut. To me, both versions have something to offer in their own way. I also really like Superman 3. It's no masterpiece and it has some flaws, but you know what, I can't help but smile after putting in the DVD. Long live home media. I do not subscribe to any streaming service. Sorry for getting on a tangent and also, great review. PS. My favorite part was when Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman all fought against Doomsday. That part was so EPIC. And the most fun I had watching this film.

Initially, the plan was for Metallo to be the villain of the movie, Lex creating him. However, the studio wanted Doomsday.

Very well done, Mark! Thoroughly enjoyed all the "fun facts" you were able to dig up.

I FOLLOW BOTH OF YOU! This was such a treat! Thank you so much!

i freakin love this film

I took Jesse Isenberg's performance to be Mark Zuckerberg. He's a rich, spoiled, entitled brat in control of a huge segment of society (social media) who is ultimately emasculated by the presence of these manly gods and wants to take them down a peg or show them his superiority. It was a bold way to approach the character and not just imitate the previous iterations. We've already had the super-scientist, business tycoon, and so on. It's just like Joker. If you are going to do the character again, bring something new to it. Ledger's Joker was nothing like Nicholson's who was nothing like Romero's, but they were all great. I do agree that Doomsday was too soon, and for the same reason. The whole point of the death of Superman storyline was to see what it was like to lose such a beloved character. He was still not embraced yet. We needed a few more movies. They did need a common threat, though. The film could not have just been Batman beating Superman, then becoming friends over Martha. They needed to come together to defeat a common threat and realize how they were complementary. They just run into the Justice League problem with Superman being too overpowered. He's in JL for 5 minutes and defeats Steppenwolf immediately. And, finally. Thanks for pronouncing Gadot's name right. I know you don't get much recognition for corrections.

I loved BvS The Directors Cut as it fills in those horrible gaps and shows Clark Kent being an actual reporter. However the Doomsday sequence was way to fast and remember telling my wife in the theatre, wow they are actually going to kill him, just wait but its finally going to happen after 20 years. Thanks for the video Minty!!!!!

I was on board with Affleck being Batman the moment I heard of it, and he didn't disappoint.

One thing was perfect in this film that was zacks Batman perfect casting, the suit was correct for the comics, and looked so good the acting was superb by Ben Affleck. Zack said this isn't the real doomsday he's out there in space

Ultimate Cut was not "in answer to the theatrical" ...it WAS the intended theatrical cut. WB promised Snyder they'd release that cut, but then reneged and forced further cuts, making it seem choppy and incoherent, confusing audiences. But they told him that he could release his cut on video. If Snyder's cut was the version shown in theaters, it would have hit a billion dollars. But, as with Suicide Squad and JL, the suits sabotaged the films and filmmakers.

Too soon, dude 😂😂

Great video, Minty - Adding Cosplay Chris was a bonus.

I think this film was marvelous.

I think the biggest problem this movie had was way too many subplots. There was no reason to bring Wonder Woman or this thing they called Doomsday (which it was not) into this film. In my opinion this is why the movie did not meet expectations. What they needed to do was follow the Frank Miller novel and make some minor changes since they planned on leading this up to the Justice League movie. What they needed to focus on was the tensions that lead up to Batman confronting Superman in a final showdown. Then after their initial confrontation they put their differences aside because of the discovery of the Para-demons on earth, which would have led to the Justice League movie. Like I stated too many subplots ruined what should have been a billion-dollar blockbuster. One last thing Minty, Jesse Eisenburg played, Alex Luthor in this film, not Lex Luthor. I noticed you called him Lex. Great Video. ONE LAST THOUGHT: If they wanted to bring Doomsday to the big screen, they should have done it like comics did. At the end of each superman comic there was an epilogue showing Doomsday's prison module and a pounding sound coming from it. They repeated that same epilogue for at least 5 or 6 comics until the one Superman issue where we see Doomsday's fist break through it finally, which means he had arrived. They could have done the same thing for 3 or 4 DC films before having him break through which would have built up the suspense and his eventual big movie confrontation with Superman. Had the studio done this, it would have been like Minty said, people would have felt the loss when Cavill's Superman is killed by Doomsday. The studio simply rushed this plot, given the fact Cavill had only played the role once. Had they done it correctly, it would have been a billion-dollar juggernaut.

The problem about doomsday being brought into early in your opinion is down to the suits at WB. They were panicking and trying to catch up with marvel instead of just taking the time. And do I origin movies first? But no they wanted to catch up quick and look where that got them.

The whole Snyderverse always seemed like they were trying to catch up to the MCU without taking any of the steps that were needed to get to the Crossover Films. After watching the connections between Winter Soldier and the end Agents of Shield season one as was hoping that they would use the Arrowverse as a bridge to the JLA movies

Even though I gets quite a bit of enjoyment out of the director’s cut of the movie, like the costumes,action and themes, I still appreciate the video Minty!!

I very much agree with the take on Batfleck. He fit the role really well.

That was not lex Luthor in the Snyder verse it was alexander luthor he says his father started lexcorp and said his father was lex and snyder confirmed Eisenberg was playing alexander

I just saw it 2 years ago , and loved it, i really like how dark the movie was. I loved how Batman the animated series was at first abit dark nature and realistic feel to it. This one of my favorite movies i seen. I only watched the extended directors cut in 4k. Was pure entertainment and loved how each of the characters could of had a movie of their own, and were here in 1 movie. And plenty of screen time for all. Im looking into getting the soundtrack cd of this movie.

I had the exact same impression of this movie in that the studio was cramming too much story into it to play catch up with the Marvel films

I didn't love or hate it I thought it was worth a watch, I've got it on Blu-ray because it was cheap but I'll probably watch it again in the future

Like many of your videos Minty, I enjoy your coverage of Batman V Superman more so than the movie itself.

Minty videos are some of my favorite views on KZfaq. Thanks for making them Mark

The reason for the movie delay is because some unknown writer actually registered the BVS script to the Writers Guild before production began. That just a guess

I really enjoyed BvS. Mainly because of the bold choices to go the darker more violent route, and I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I liked Jessie Isenberg's take on Lex Luthor.

I remember reading in the lead-up to this film being released that one of the original ideas for Lex Luthor was that he was an ex-skinhead gang leader who had risen from the streets to become a tech billionaire and they wanted to lean heavily into him being more punk with a lot of tattoos. Apparently, after seeing him in The Social Network the producers/ executives decided they thought Eisenberg would be perfect, but changed the character to be more socially awkward nerd than tattooed punk. As with a lot of ideas that seem to get passed around between Hollywood movies, I often think this idea was probably the main reason why when it came to Suicide Squad they decided to make Joker more of a tattooed punk gang leader.

Great movie! Loved it!

You are spot on concerning this movie Minty, Thanks!