I thought it was one of the best after T2 and T1.

It looked extremely real

Same

You and everyone else... With good taste in films that is 😅

Me too! It is a solid film.

Mine too.

Ditto

Cool right? Haha

An oversimplification

Mad Max with robots is not a terrible concept really.

Thats like Minty, without the Autism!

If only the 4th Mad Max had Gibson. It was a great film, but with him as his character would’ve made it a comeback for the franchise and prove a good story can exist with an original cast. Because not all these sequels to older films have done well, but that one would’ve done great with him in addition. Hardy was good though.

Some streaming services could make a tv series pitch to hollyweird for a post Judgement Day series,maybe 6/7 episodes perhaps.

Yeah I remember seeing the clips of the future in the original Terminator movie and thinking, that's the movie I want to see. Salvation tried to do that.

​​@@1pcfredNot to mention video games and toy lines also showing off the future war. Yeah, despite its issues, Salvation really did fulfill that long sought childhood dream for a full movie set during that time.

@@Morgil27 I just remember those scenes really captivating me when I saw them. The movie would have been good without them. They kind of didn't really even fit in with the rest of the movie. They were like mini movies inside the movie. Like cut scenes in a video game.

Terminator and Cyborg with Jean Claude as a kid got my post apocalypse love started.

Minty I believe would know it as T- MegaDrive by Sega.

Word!

It could of been more detailed, epic as a animated film. Not live action.

4 sure.

Heart transplant in a field hospital lol

It's very mediocre. Only in comparison with the awful content they produced afterwards it seems somewhat ok.

@@Verbalaesthet You got it right.

Not bad but ain’t good either

I can appreciate that you didn't like T3 but imho, T3 is necessary to the series to justify why T4 exists.

@@loka7783 Yes, pity it was utter crap though

Salvation work better if you skip the opening in the prison scene. It adds another layer of mystery to the Marcus character.

​@@loka7783 Not really, though. T3 is when they started messing with the timeline. The only reason T3 is regarded kinda well is because the end caught everyone offguard. It never really offered anything new to the story, T2 showed the bombs go off in Sarah's dreams and that was the most viseral way to show it. TS isn't perfect, but it didn't need T3 at all.

@@TommySawtooth I respect your opinion but to me, without T3, TS doesn't make sense as to why it is taking place at all. Unless you put TS in an entirely separate timeline (or right after T1) after T2 the series ends. If you add in T3 then you can progress to TS with no issues, imho.

R.I.P. Anton Yelchin.

Yelchin was really brilliant in Salvation.

He didn't seem at all like a battle hardened warrior that grew up after the apocalypse, where some people worked at the camps that killed humans 24/7

He was ok as Kyle Reese but for me thier is only one Kyle Resse and that is Michael Biehn

RIP Anton

Season 3 would have been awesome.

Still wonder where they planned on going with the series.

Agreed .Season 3 would have been awesome

@@sohum63, yeah, where *was* that going? Was Conner even alive?

I had my doubts about it but at the end of season 2 I was really into it. I kind of like the idea of the rogue t1000.

The original version that Kyle had in flashbacks in the original film

@@logangodofcandy Yes!

Well, T2 is a giant series of time loops, so the future could simply be very different every time

That wasn't the only confusing thing because I remember Kyle Reese said that the T-800 were new in the first movie but having the T-800 with the skin when Kyle was a teen feels too soon to be in the story like that.

@@night-x6793 I don't know, it seems sometimes they can't follow the source material.

He was still young. I reckon the terminators t800s like Arny in the first film were still in its infancy. Plus you still seen they had to sneak around A LOT.

In T2, Kyle was a soldier. The Resistance bases would be more vulnerable at night. Maybe, that's when they fought, to distract bots from finding their bases. In this one, Kyle is not a Resistance soldier. He'd be more vulnerable at night, which he stated in the movie.

Is the only time in my life I was happy to see a naked man. 😂

Same. Although the silly voice in my head went "Don't let him out of the box; He will lose value!" due to the plastic look of an action figure (it did work well though as this was, in theory, the "first T800" so they would still have some work that needs doing.

The bad CGI used on Arnold's face took me out of this film when I saw it in the theater. I wonder if some people are like myself and just like to see an actor play in a role and allow suspension of disbelief to let the viewer see a young Arnold (T-800). The characters definitely needed more nuance,Beale and Ray. So the two most important performances are wooden. The action was kind of stale. The robots look too much like transformers at the time. . . The original and its sequel as far as I'm concerned are their own thing. That being said this movie was serviceable but had a lot of potential. It's like there's a fantastic story to be mined but they didn't dig deep enough. Some pretty cool scenes scattered here,and there and that's it. Terminator 2 was so big because it had Big steaks and you felt the steaks. Collective fear of nuclear destruction was still in people's minds. You can't just copy the same formula to make a hit film or have some of the same elements. What reverberates with an audience at one time can't be duplicated with a newer audience. Just my humble opinion because I still watch these movies, and I still have fun with them for what they are.

Wow such low standards 😂 It was so bad the audience were pissing themselves laughing,bad bad movie.

​@@CDee-if9og I never said the movie was good. Just that I, personally, liked that moment, even if the CGI were bad etc... Do we have to agree on everything ? I'm pretty sure everyone has something he likes even if others find it lame.

As Minty said it had happened multiple times. I'm on Bale's side. Someone keeps doing something stupid even tho they had to reshoot that scene again that someone didn't figure it out on his own? Really? Emotional reaction

@@brianstrutter1501 Still not professional. The director is the one to take care of such issues, not the actor.

Much adieu about nothing. It is bonkers that people were roaming around in the background in his line of vision fixing lights and crap while the cameras were rolling. Even in tv that is pathetic. You are always one flop away from zero career in hollywood so no surprises he was angry. I would blame the director though not the crewman.

Spoken like someone who learned about Terminator through the movies after this one.

@@Verbalaesthetspeak for yourself, bet you weren’t old enough to see terminator 1 or 2 in the theaters. What is even your argument, beside trolling? sry for your mother

@@VerbalaesthetSpoken like an ungrateful clown who just want to see Arnold and doesn't really care about about the origins, history and lore of the Terminator.

​@Verbalaesthet I grew up when the first 2 came out and this is the 2nd best of the franchise in my opinion slightly behind T2. Everything about this movie was amazing!!

Wait, you're saying Salvation is better than T1?

@@user-ss2eq1xo3g They also had 2 bangers in Last Action hero.

"Rooster" and "The Day The Whole World Went Away" we're both PERFECT for Salvation!

I started catching the TV series. I had an issue with it originally because the original cast was not involved. I'm really liking it, though. I wish I had been more open-minded back then.

@@Sci-Fi-Mike I really enjoyed it. But the final episode of session two sets up so much for a 3rd session that never came. So that's upsetting.

I LOVED the terminator tv series too,but,didn't know there was a tv series on,until I bought the dvd series from a pawn shop for $ 3.00 ( this was the first season ) Then I later bought season 2 from the same pawn shop.GOOD series tho.

@@user-be7tc2bd6e once session 1 established the main characters ..session 2 really gets things going! I really enjoyed it.

The TV series was way better then you'd have expected of a Terminator show. Garret Dillahunt forever became Cromartie whenever i saw him in other shows heh.

T2 is the best after T1.

T2 extended cut is the best. T2 is 2nd best T1 is the 3rd best T6 Dark Fate is 4th T3 is 5th T5 Genesys is the worst

Terminator 2 didn't wrap things up perfectly. Once Arnold was destroyed, Jon Connor should have disappeared. If they ended Judgment Day, then there's no reason to send Kyle Reese back. He doesn't have sex with Sarah Connor. Therefore, Jon Connor is never born.

@@CJBenjamin3000 I don't think back to the Future rules apply. You're acting on the premise that going back in time to prevent an action therefore remove the reason to go back in the first place. Since this never happened in the film we can conclude that time travel in The Terminator Universe will drop somebody in the past and they therefore become part of that reality and timeline they arrived in. Any alterations to the Future would not affect them because for them even though they are in the past they are still moving linearly into their own future. They have only created a new timeline to move forward in even if their parents or younger self are wiped out.

I agree totally.

John wasn't the first leader to send Kyle back and we don't know why he went back. We just know that Kyle was sent back BEFORE the first movie for some reason and then John Conner was born and became the leader of the resistance. John knew Kyle was his dad and sent him back in a recurring loop. We don't know how many times Kyle was sent back, but we know the first time, it wasn't by John. Other people could have even been sent back that were not Kyle for whatever reasons. NOTHING is wrapped up until the first time before time travel is done.

Timelines in time travel theory can be confusing. Technically a “zero” universe has to exist where John is born organically from a different father and the machines are built without being reverse engineered from the future.

Wow! Someone else has read the Tim Zahn books! You're 1000% right. They give the best, most detailed depiction of life in a world where Skynet is spreading its power and control. Freaking terrifying. Tim Zahn is a friend of a friend. Our mutual friend is named Mark, and the first time I spoke to Tim was at a sci-fi convention just before Salvation came out. I knew he'd been given a copy of the script so he could write his novels, and I came up behind him and said "Mark made me promise not to kidnap you to get information about Terminator Salvation." He turned and said "Ah! You must be Eric!" Apparently Mark has told him about me. He never broke his NDA, but we ended up chatting about Terminator until about 2 am.

Completely agree. I don't know what Minty was smoking, but he was a highlight of the movie.

season 3 by far was the best. that's why season 4 was such a disappointment

How would he know he was a machine by touching his chest though?

@@crazyralph6386 When Conner ripped open his shirt halfway through the movie, Worthington's chest was a steel ribcage.

@@Phalanx11after an explosion with a land mine

@@TheOnslaught616 so you don't check your body after a landmine explosion?

​@@Phalanx11He lost consciousness in the explosion. When he woke up, he was chained up, and that very scene is when he found out that he's a hybrid.

Kyle was still young and the T800s were still in infancy. I dont think they were in numbers like the future scenes in t1 and t2. Just a guess.

​@@murdock8068There aren't supposed to be T-800s there at all. All of the endos you see in the assembly line are T-700s, which at that time are just going into production. They changed all the T-700 references in the script to T-800 when someone got the terrible idea of cramming a CGI Arnold cameo into the movie several years before it would make sense. As far as the humans running around in the daytime, that's actually a goof in the first Terminator movie, not Salvation. At the time he wrote it, Cameron didn't realize that humans would be easier to spot in infrared at night than in the daytime.

@@Datan0de Thats what I was figuring was Arny at the end were the new T800s coming into production from the crude t700s we seen in earlier Salvation.

exactly why not write a movie about kyle and John Connor instead of watering down your script with useless characters no one cares about.

Okay, I have to brag. I met both Linda Hamilton and Kristanna Loken on the same day. Both genuinely awesome people, especially Hamilton.

Bloodgood was also in the tv series about an alien invasion-FALLING-SKIES-and I LOVED this sci-fi series.I don't know if any one remembers this tv series tho,it came out a long time ago.

@@user-be7tc2bd6e I'll look into it. 😎

​@user-be7tc2bd6e Fakling Skies was GREAT! They definitely should've had a bigger budget than they did but they did good with what they had to work with

​@user-be7tc2bd6e I watched the crap out of Falling skies for the first couple seasons lol. Walking Dead but with aliens, tho it did have some pretty neat story elements and twists.

I personally just like looking at her, she's attractive

PREACH!

We went *hard* for Terminator Salvation. I played the Resist Or Be Terminated online game (and commanded the most powerful faction, Skynet Root), submitted a video that ended up getting incorporated into the guerrilla marketing campaign, bought basically everything related to the movie (the art book is gorgeous, and gives a lot of insight into the evolution of the movie), and have a cardboard T-600 stand-up from the 7-11 cross promotion guarding my attic. But the peak was that my wife and I flew out to California for our summer vacation just so we could ride the rollercoaster. Worth it! We also made a side trip to LA for the sole purpose of getting our photo taken on Pico Blvd.

HEAT 2 is a prequel and sequel ! It's available on paperback

YES!!!

There needs to be more videos on Muppets Treasure Island and Muppets in Space.

Fantastic Movie!

Truth!

711 set? Iron Maiden?? I'm well jealous lol Must have been awesome! ❤

Fuck yeah!! That's awesome!

Diversity hire.

@@logangodofcandy What? How?

@@logangodofcandy Normally I would go there but I don't think so in this particular case. Imagine spending hours and hours on 1 scene and some douche ruins it just when you (the actor) thought you had that scene finally.

As I understood it, the DP was checking light levels during a rehearsal, which in many other productions is not unusual. Only in this case, the actor involved was extremely sensitive to distraction, and temperamental. I severely doubt the DP was so clueless to be walking behind actors during a filmed performance. It is general procedure that all on-set activity ceases when the camera rolls, which is why the Assistant Director yells, "lock it up" before the camera rolls.

@@aliensoup2420 Even during a rehearsal, people don't move around on a set. The rehearsal isn't just for the actors, but for sound or stunts or whatever. At minimum, it's rude as people are trying to get something done. Especially the actors who are in character. How do I know? Worked in the industry for as while. And as the recording states, it wasn't the first time the guy did this. This tells me he had a habit of walking around when he wasn't supposed to. As for "lock it up", never heard of it. Not even when in film school. Not saying it's never been said ... but that it's not a normal phrase like "traveling" or "flying in". Both are phrases used when moving around the set. The former is what someone says when they "travel" in front of the camera. It's to warn those near it to not freak out if looking through the lens for focus or lighting. The latter is what you say when en route to somewhere. Be it to deliver a prop, bring coffee, or to go somewhere when called. In addition, as someone else already said, imagine being the actor who has spent hours trying to get a line in a really difficult scene right and some dude goes walking onto the set, in your field of view, to tweak a light. Now imagine being that actor after that guy has done this multiple times.

well they could do it...but in this modern day and age woke dei would kill any chance of it being good.

The first Tim Zahn novel set just before Salvation would fit that perfectly, since it focuses on the lives of average people trying to survive whole the city they live in is being systematically brought under Skynet control.

You’re not wrong my friend…

T6 is the best damned Terminator film I've seen in 23 years

It cannot be wrapped up until skynet is stopped and time travel is never invented.

Nope. TSCC, T3, Salvation, Genesys, and Dark Fate are all independent from each other, just all following on from T1/T2. The only thing that cross-pollinated between them is that the (awesome) T-1 units in Terminator 3 were included in the prison camp scenes in Salvation. Otherwise, there was never any intention of reconciling the various continuities together.