Now that Triple H has replaced vince, hopefully the days of WWE treating its fans bad is finally over.

All jokes aside, Miz, is legit one of the nicest dudes I've met. He, John Morrison, Kofi, and Victoria all stood and talked to my kid for like 5 minutes.

Another thing that bugged me since I was a kid: wrestlers can often go full-speed for like 15 minutes in a 1 on 1 match, but put them in a tag team match and they're crawling to their corner, barely able to move, to tag out after 2 to 3 minutes. This never made sense to me and never will. It's just so obvious and stupid.

Just to add a few more ..11. Giving Wrestlers a new character or gimmick, then taking them off TV all of a sudden without any explanation and expecting us to just forget (Mojo Rawley, Aleister Black,) 12. Them hyping up current jobbers when they enter the ring such as Jinder Mahal by talking about their former accolades even though they havn't won a match in years, yet commentary will say things like "This guy is dangerous and legit".... 13. Them putting a "Haunted Doll" storyline with Alexa Bliss expecting us to believe it's magically appearing in peoples locker rooms....

I disagree with the "card subject to change". It actually serves to protect them against law suits for false advertising; just in case someone gets injured before a show. Not saying they don't abuse it but still I understand it from a legal perspective.

A lot of these entries are quite outdated after Triple H took over the helm.

I like recaps. I never know what’s going on in aew because they don’t show them.

One of the most egregious examples of WWE “forgetting” their own history: Ricky Steamboat was extremely popular in the mid to late 80’s, and had his legendary match against Macho Man before leaving in 1988. He returned to WWF just 3 years later, under the same ring name and everything…and the commentators were instructed to act as though he was brand new, calling him a “rookie” and “exciting newcomer”, pretty much ignoring his very recent history in the company. At least when Tony Atlas returned as Saba Simba, it was supposed to be a brand new totally unrelated character (which still didn’t stop Roddy Piper from yelling “It’s Tony Atlas!” during Simba’s debut).

Great video and spot on. Its getting better with Triple H, slowly but surely.

How’d you guys narrow it down to only ten?

I fully disagree with replays being a bad thing. It's like how in football you get a replay of the goal or in basketball with a very good dunk. I like watching good spots happen from different angles and in slow motion. It's not that I can't remember what happened, it's that I want to see it again without having to go back a few seconds

Maybe the constant recaps was for Vince because he couldn't remember the shows from week to week.

I don't know if I just imagined this, but what gets me is when someone cheats to win whilst ref is knocked out or distracted, because I swear I saw a few times back in the day, especially attitude era, when suddenly another ref would come out and point out to that some wrongdoing had occurred so they would cancel the decision already made and say to continue the match. Not that I want to see that all the time but it would make sense as surely they could show even refs make mistakes.

That wasn’t really an accurate use of ‘Pavlovian’. It doesn’t just refer to something that’s repetitive - but a conditioned response to repetitive stimuli. Having said that, “Everyone talks the same” is a BRILLIANT point. Excellent, valid entry. I really wish they’d focus more on characterisation etc.

Happy Thanksgiving Sy and Whatculture!

It’s funny I was at a raw and the crowd was dead. I was showing a clip to one of my friends on the wwe channel and they had us cheering.

With ref bumps when a wrestler is made a special guest ref they can’t take anywhere close to the punishment they do when they are having a match

Can't argue with a single point, myself. Sometimes I do like a good ref bump...but like you said, more often than not, they just come across as forced and painfully dull.

Psy... you are becoming a natural at doing these, I like you because you don't go a billion miles an hour, I can't understand most KZfaqrs because of that! Keep up the good work mate!

Yup a lot of valid points, I'm pretty numb to the WWE ref bumps. AEW recently pulled off a smart ref bump with Aubrey Edwards after she got smacked by Athena post match. That crowd came unglued because it came out of no where. I thought it was a good way to establish Athena's heel status because a lot of people love Aubrey. Her and Chioda are the only two refs I've ever heard get a legit pop.

Ye know that's how I watch the show throughout KZfaq , mainly because I'm in Ireland and I start work at 5:00 am so watching the show live isn't viable but also watching on KZfaq cuts out a lot of shite

Medicine Wagon 🤣🤣

Either this is a re-upload or someone forgot to upload it before Vince left.

Was this list written in May and forgotten about until you’ve gotten past semi critical AEW videos??

Part 1 of a 50 part series

Psy actually wrote this? I thought "Sidgwick" as soon as I saw the title...

WWE officials seem to actually enjoy or get a rush from insulting the intelligence of their audiences. It seems the younger generations don't take too kindly to that practice.

I feel like this was made when Vince was still in lol cause they’re at least changing a few of these better under HHH

WWE treating its fans like an idiots Use a weapon in a match whether it’s behind the refs back or not = opponent laid out cold Use a weapon in a non DQ type match = opponent stays on their feet I know it’s not 100% of the time it happens but how they do it can make some “superstars” look weak.

Was this list made last year? A lot of it is just Vince McMahon shenanigans. He retired months ago

Part of me still hates seeing celebrities in wrestling. Combat sport athletes like boxing and mixed martial arts I'm good with. but I can't be expected to believe actors and musicians should be successfully beating trained wrestlers at their own game.

At least, it's way less bad now... Feels like the video is all Pre-HHH.

Love that the majority of this video is about Vinces bs, out of touch now that HHH has taken over.

Im just gonna take a second to acknowledge how u said pats name 8:30 its MAC a fee not mc A fee one of the best nfl punters and kickoff guys ever

Vince was using fake crowd noise to get John cena over

I mean, you have to remember most people who watch WWE are casual fans, they don’t know about backstage politics, forbidden words and all that thing the always smartest IWC, they don’t need to watch Saturday Morning Slam to know why some wrestlers did some little hand gesture.

I don't know which is worse - WWE's "all wrestlers fall outside the ring...go to commercial! OR AEW's break means picture in picture where its so small you can't see either and nothing really happens We can clearly see both coming

falling into the 50+ crowd... you are spot on with this one... after 30+ yrs of watching this product... the top of my list is the fake crowd noise... when it's so loud you can't hear the cory graves crappy commentary... it's both irritating and off putting... the reason I ALWAYS record the show so I can fast forward thru them telling me how great roman reigns is and the endless recaps... UGH... why do I keep watching ???

I think some of these things are actually changing due to Vince leaving.

Holy Sh*t, yall resurrected Lord Alfred Hayes...

"local medical facility" always pissed me off. I'd be screaming back at my TV like, "it's called a HOSPITAL!" Well, pretty much everything on this list was annoying, but that one bugged me the most.

#8 Everyone talks the same: You forgot the one I enjoy the most when one wrestler tells the other that they will "beat you up in 2 weeks at the next pay perview". Im always left wondering if you hate them so much you are both right here right now, why dont you fight them right now?:)

Forgot to include the absolutely annoying camera movements to make things look dramatic but just look dumb and gives you motion sickness

thank God Hunter is slowly getting rid of Vinces insane replays and words

#2 isn't WWE exclusive. Jeff Jarrett practically made his career off ref bumps 😂

you start with my biggest complaint. they could easily fit another match in if they skipped recaps.

If the shoe fits !

8:26-8:27 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ how do you screw up his name like that it’s pat mcafee not macafee

I feel like this is just some personal nit picking from someone on the channel.

Think they've done this list about 10 times itself. Irony.

I'm sure Psy will be awarded brownie points for this list from Michael, Michael and Adam.

"Refs aren't trained..." Utter bollocks and you know it. Most refs have trained for years as wrestlers before transitioning in to being refs because of injury or something like that. WWE's current most experienced ref used to be Ric Flair's protégé in WCW, and was even nicknamed "Little Naitch". Please at least pretend to know what you are talking about, guys.

Renee said it best and before y’all realize it

Hey dude you forgot first Women's Elimination Chamber Match

Maybe the replays weren’t intended to make us feel stupid, maybe they are they as a way of saying to Vince “look what happened, you signed off on this, DONT FORGET IT VINCE”

Caught 8:38 in my peripheral; thought it was Seth and Becky.

So according to WWE, Stephanie McMahon basically invented women 🤔

I hate the fake crowd noises so much

I've watched the KZfaq versions of wwe for years, that way I can see what I want to see and skip the other shit, only watch ppvs in full.

Replays are seen as bad things now? They exist in literally every sport. Weird take

At least Vince McMahon is retired

I think the recaps are for people just tooning in

How about whenever commentators hype up multi man matches for a title. At this Sunday’s fatal four way the champion is at a severe disadvantage because he only has a 25% chance of retaining! He doesn’t even have to be pinned or submitted! When 90% of the time the champion ends up retaining their title during a multi person match.

I want to take a moment to remind everyone that Chris Jericho's current gimmick is parodying all this on AEW. And it is GLORIOUS. AEW Galaxy still makes me bust a gut.

The celebrity thing doesn't really bother me. It is entertainment after all. Not to mention a lot of the comments seem nitpicky as well as WWE, wrestling in general is basically a soap opera. There's gonna be gags, tropes.

The recap is incase you only just started watching, if some fans can't understand that, then maybe wwe are right to think the fans are idiots

I love the recaps they catch me up on what's going on. Unlike you not everyone has the luxury of time to sit through every minute of 10hrs per week (counting WWE and AEW alone) of wrestling shows

pretty sure this should of come out before Vince was removed from the company. Also speaking of looking stupid, Psy's image here, christ it's like a hippy found anime for the first time in their life.

Is this a re-upload? Its all about Vince and the commentary thing happened like a year and a half ago.

I usually like the "moments ago" thing

Apparently this is the Pro AEW part of this channel. Show me the video titled "How AEW is trying to convince their fans that they are REALLY competition to the WWE?" Just change the title of this video to "When Smart Marks Start To Over Think Today's Wrestling Business."

Snooki was so stupid... but Rouke was a pretty good boxer in his younger days so not as bad

Recaps aren't treating fans like idiots, however they do have somewhat of a different issue, lack of urgency to tune in. Why an I going to rush to turn on my TV right when the show starts when I know the opening segment will be reaired, albeit with what WWE determines in unimportant to my viewing experience. Fake crowd noises, The thunderdome and performance center proved this is essential and microphones over the audience pick up everything including stuff that can't be aired on TV, do you prefer long stretches of dead air? All of these quirks, I just hope Triple H turns things around, Now do an AEW video. Let's see how you say AEW treats the fans like idiots as well

To be fair a lot of these have gotten better since Vince "left". Problems are still there though.

#1: trying to convince the fans that jobber children are champion grade talent. Let me know when Batista comes out of retirement again. 😉

The way you said McAfee is enough to make me throw up

Dang, this video almost makes me want to stop watching WWE seeing all these laid out like this 😬

Based on the number of times their fans have attacked talent, past and/or present and the death threats against Dwayne Johnson's daughter by the same fanbase, WWE is justified in treating them like idiots, namely the WWE Universe apologists/cult fans/drones/marks/shills/stans/trolls, especially the ones who are still supporting it even though Vince Jr. still has an ownership stake in the promotion even after Endeavor bought a majority stake in the promotion, and after VKM (Vincent Kennedy McMahon) paid Rita Chatterton when the rape allegations came out and the hush money to several women, taking shareholders' money for his own use, and the fact the WWE was found to be a monopoly, David Schultz being blackballed from the industry thanks to Vince because of the John Stossel incident, even though it was Vince's idea, not Schultz's, Owen Hart's death that Vince is responsible for because he was being cheap with regards to the rigger and the carabiner clip with the release, the Madison Square Garden screwjob, Montreal Screwjob. The Janel Grant allegations are ongoing, but who knows what other nonsense I'm omitting with regards to him personally or the company during his time there when he was in charge?

Some Valid points on this, but when will we see an AEW version? They do many of these as well. Plus the endless run-in and interruptions before, during, and after every match. Hell the AEW Refs alone make everyone look like idiots.

Logan Paul should get a big push tho. He was fantastic

As a 90's kid .. I know it wont be possible now but still i wanted to see a dream match between The Undertaker vs The Sting .. I mean , Nowadays we all know that wwe is not that much good enough and their booking of matches kinda boring and sucked as compared to before it was .. It would be a Dream come true for every 90's born . But ☹️

Yeah, but those 50 year olds watch from a very young age, they do what works, what caught your eye when you were younger, they won't change what's not broken, WWE is for fathers and sons, family activity.

But you guys treat us like idiots with some of your video titles

Great video 😉👍🏻

You pronounce ‘Pat McAfee’ like a donut. It’s someone’s name, guy. There’s only one way to pronounce it. And it ain’t the way you said it.

For me, one of the things is the super unrealistic finishers. Big ending for example or Zig Zag or the F5. How are these suppose to knock an other wrestler out for 3 secs and then on top of that they move their shoulders right after they are getting pinned to roll out of the ring. At least make the finishers look more realistic imo, but maybe this is in all of wrestling idk.

Damn is Trips still doing fake crowd noise? I figured that'd be one of the things changed in the new regime.

The average age is HWHAT????

The part of the referee's i get but same counts also for the so called securraty they suck jus as hard

Shane McMahon was behind the worst storylines in WWE over the last 10 years. He’s gone now

This seems old. Vince is gone.

This just in! Whatcultre shits purely on WWE once again.

Ope

Valid points, but this list is a bit outdated. The HHH regime has changed many of them.

I'm going to wait and see if this channel does the same video for AEW. They won't. I'm just waiting. Also, the recap stuff is a long time tradition in wrestling to allow those who may have missed something to catch up.

ALWAYS

and The Women's revolution did not last.

Ah what culture being biased. What else is new

I guarantee you the overwhelming majority of fans do not notice fake crowd noise.

Why does Roman reigns always looks constipated