Fight Commentary Breakdowns puts it best, where "Kung Fu hobbyists" are all doing the best most interesting work and "masters" frequently don't

It's about ego. The worst ones will have the biggest 'bark'

Well I mean I've never seen that and quite honestly people who know king Fu and are especially good at it will kill you before you blink..

My favourite thing about people talking bs about kung fu is how none of you will ever go to schools near shaolin or wudang and call out somebody, to teach you a lesson of humiliation

@@bison962I actually did. I went to one with my student who fought in the ufc. They kinda admitted it was bs

These guys are everywhere. 🤔

Good point. I'm by far not a fan of Tony Robbins and consider him a dangerous character too

They were just examples of who people go to for self help seminars

@@ChuckSeville All I know is I can’t hear the name without thinking of the Whose Line Is It Anyway? episode with the Scenes From a Hat segment asking for “Other gifts the Wise Men could have given baby Jesus”. One of the examples was Wayne Brady claiming, “With this series of motivational tapes by Tony Robbins, the Messiah will lead his people!” The other example I remember was Ryan Stiles declaring, “The Child will derive hours of entertainment from this, the novelty singing bass!”

Thanks Karate Chris! Let's keep owning our journeys together 😊👊

@@MartialArtsJourney Yes sir! Always training. Always spreading the good of the martial arts.

thank you for the support

@@McDojoLife Thank you for all you do, exposing these people to the world.

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It’s fascinating how often people talk about trauma these days. Most of my life people would have called what you went through stress. Not necessarily a bad thing to change how we describe things. I just think it’s interesting.

@@michaelmangan7963 Their Victimhood is competing with so many others these days that the landscape has completely shifted. Sensationalism sells.

Mix boxing with stand up grappling like judo and you have a very potent mix

Mix boxing with stand up grappling like judo and you have a very potent mix

My grandpa was pro he taught me boxing at a very young age

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"Oh no, a nonbeliver! Now my kamehame won't work. I'm defeated!" 😁

One of the most interesting things is you can see him doubt, if he really should say the secret flaw to his death star powers. The momment he try to process he is a fraud and his ego goes in his defense, even at the cost of giving a free cryptonite present to his imaginary enemies on NATIONAL tv... like if superman was so insecure that prefers to not look weak never at the cost of making himself useless. Yeah that moment really saved me alot of things in my life.

"Grasshopper, contemplate the hidden wisdom that water is wet."

Great points! The break fall is seriously underrated

Same it has some great benefits along with the less

Is there anything that aikido does BETTER than judo or jiu-jitsu?

@@manlyadvice1789 yes there is. Aikido gets a lot of shit from people that have no experience with it, they just don’t understand what they are seeing. Aikido teaches you to blend with incoming forces and redirect it, not using muscular strength. Both judo and jujitsu rely heavily on strength. Aikido is definitely something that takes much longer to be proficient in, judo and jujitsu doesn’t take that long to be able to use it fairly well, so you usually don’t see many people with aikido skills that can actually be used real world.

The effectiveness of Aikido will always depend on the teacher you have and the lineage they came down.

Damn. That is true now that I think about it.

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thank you for that

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Thanks!

Maybe getting those bodyguard jobs had more to do with being convincing than having the skills? As to Elvis, I love what he's helped change in society, and how he brought folks to karate, but he was at best an ordinary beginner, and easily exploited.

If he trained Elvis then he MUST be legit

Read Priscillas book.. Elvis was totally into really wacky pseudo spiritual stuff

@@29maurice Dillman had some legit skills in the ring. The problem with the film is that the presenters rightly disapprove of what Dillman represents now and retroject that disapproval into his past. History shows plenty of people who were very skilled in all sorts of ways and who eventually went off the rails. Their end doesn't mean that their beginning wasn't genuine.

I had this argument for years with a friend when we were younger. He would argue that humans are inherently evil, and I would argue humans were inherently good. Really smart guy, hard to get the better of him even though biology brings us a lot of evidence. I've gotten a more nuanced outlook but I still argue that while humans are capable of both, most of us are inclined toward good.

Thanks Christopher!

@@MartialArtsJourney and this video was worth the wait!

Thanks!

Dillman supposedly did testing with some University . People hooked up to machines. Guess he got some good results. So to your question I think yes he does believe it.

That's a great question. I guess he really believed it 😊

Kudos to the CICAP, Italian equivalent of CSICOP, who were the guys testing him in the program.

Well some guy on Stan Lee's superhuman did the same thing his name was Tom something I think? Called "The Human Stun Gun." Basically same no touch knockout concept, same stooges etc. Basically the producers set up some type of machine and it did register "something." Which is why I believe they aired the episode lol Edit I googled it his name is Tom Cameron and he was called the human stun gun by Ripley believe it or not.

Count Dante started out legitimate like Dillman I believe, but then got into the Dim Mak, the death touch.

Every Judo Dojo is like this by necessity. The reason Judo is so legit is that you absolutely cannot teach it without pressure testing. Any technique that isn't effective has been discarded decades ago. All that remains are effective and intuitive combat forms.

If you do a martial art and don’t spar and not sparring like they do in aikido then it’s pretty useless, even when I did king fu we would spar each other and test what worked.

Thank you!! The honeymoon was great! Now it's back to action 😊

@karaoconnolraliasraidra But that is the problem, it is a philosophy. In the American context - and this film is almost entirely American - there are people who make their living by training others. This applies to Martial Arts and to Sports, Pilates, Yoga etc. These people aren't necessarily known to the wider community, so if they wait for people to find them, they may starve. Once a martial artist is established and well known, then they will pick up students without a problem. In China and Japan and Okinawa it was not like this, at least in the past. In the past, of course, martial arts were not open to everyone. Chinese Arts belonged to families or villages (e.g.; Chen Tai Chi), Okinawan Karate also might belong to a family or community. Japanese Arts originated in warfare and were linked to specific warriors who were - usually - in service to a particular Lord and his family. In each of these instances, the art would only be passed on to a limited number of people, either family/village members or to other warriors in service to the same lord. In those historical contexts, the teaching was restricted and there were incentives not to spread the teachings. In the modern context, even excellent teachers with legitimate background may need to teach publicly in order to support themselves and in order to maintain their art.

@@charleshayes2528 I see. I hadn’t stopped to consider the differences in culture and eras. Maybe it’s better to say good teachers will gain positive word of mouth.

@@karaoconnoraliasraidra I absolutely agree! However, the word of mouth may be restricted to an "in-crowd", so that the Karate community may know who to go to to get advanced teaching in Karate but may not know anything about who to trust in HEMA. Thankfully, this is becoming less common and the walls between various arts are more transparent. But . . . the average non-Martial Artist might have no idea who to trust with the teaching of their children.

Thanks for the feedback Marco. The problem for me was that at the time of filming I had a back injury so I was forced to stand and constantly had pain :)

It's a good question, but at the same time I belive that while doing our best to describe the dark side of these people and schools I doubt if people listening to this talk will be tempted to go there

@@MartialArtsJourney hopefully. But I gotta admit, I'd love to write o story about all the best & funniest guys you and Rob talked about. Something like George Dillman has to team up with Ashida Kim and a zombie Count Dante to defeat an evil, ultra secret, totally for reals ninja cult. Hmm... Thanks for answering my question. Keep fightin' the good fight. S

I had to leave that dojo 2x. First I left and did some Aikido. I enjoyed my Aikido school but saw weaknesses in the training and it was bad for my back health(breakfalls daily unlike occasionally in Karate). Then I went back to my old dojo and after a few years it got toxic again. Lucky I had about 90% of the system ( Goju Karate ). At this point I had my schools and students. I went my own way.

one of those schools where students had to bow to the intructors?

The bowing is not cult....it is culture. However the cult part was more how we trained and with who. They acted as of they had the only answers. Also they tried to control the questions too.

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Wedding is done, injury somewhat healed 😊

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There is no sop for martial arts. There’s no governing board for martial arts as a whole. There may be some for specific schools or systems, but I’m unaware if there is.

You know, its odd. John C Kim was one of the biggest martial arts frauds ever...yet he's hardly ever mentioned. I actually found where he learned...turns out he was kicked out at about mid way to Black Belt.

agreed!! it would be bonkers

I'd love a Black Dragon Society movie that properly portrays the gradual self delusion

The best way to con a person is to actually know what you're talking about. As 80's wrestling bookers would often say, "If I say A and B and both are true, why would you believe C is bullshit?". If you base your con on the exaggeration of truth, or build up legitimate accolades, the appeal to authority will set in.

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I'm suspicious of them as well

Used them as examples of who people go to when they are looking for self help seminars

I'm planning to make a video on hema hopefully even still this summer

@@MartialArtsJourney great, looking forward to it.

Hey, I've been a HEMA instructor for about a decade now, but frankly if you're interested in any of HEMA for "practicality", as in the application, that's very far from the objective. Also there is no HEMA martial art, it covers an enormous selection of martial practices. A more interesting premise is if our experimental archeology pressure testing is legitimate

Kenjutsu is closer to hema than kendo

@m.a.k.8618 With respect, if you are looking at Kendo or HEMA for practicality, you have misunderstood them both. 1) Kendo is a modern Budo with a sport aspect. It is based on older styles of Kenjutsu and Kendo (of the Tokugawa) era, but it is not quite the same. 2) Kendo - as a competitive art - involves a bamboo sword/Shinai, plus solid wooden or metal swords for Kata practice and for the related art of Iaido. People do not carry swords anymore and if they did, they would probably get arrested. 3) Even if you have real skills, a sword doesn't stand much chance against a gunman at a distance or in a confined space. Kendo is now about personal development, study and enjoyment - with a competitive element - and even those who emphasise the original practicality of the old school swordsmanship generally accept that they are keeping alive an old tradition for its own sake and for what they learn from it and not because they expect to engage in sword duels in the main street. Of course, Kendo can teach distance and timing and I know of Kendoka who were able to use those skills to avoid injury when attacked. (BTW Aikido techniques are based on sword movements, so there is a potential carryover.) Don't be mistaken, I have played Kendo and loved it and would recommend it for someone who wants to get into an older art. I also know how dangerous live blades (Shinken) can be. But that is not the focus or the intent of Kendo. But if you want practicality - and by "practicality" I assume you mean self defence? (cos nobody ain't gonna let you take no sword into the ring in MMA - that isn't in the mix) - then you want something that addresses the kind of attacks you are likely to face. There are plenty of systems out there that do that. Kendo doesn't claim to be one of them. I have deliberately avoided speaking about HEMA because, as someone else pointed out, there is not one art. HEMA refers to Historical European Martial Arts - plural. So someone doing archery is doing HEMA, someone doing European Sword Drills, from whichever period is doing HEMA, someone doing genuine Quarter Staff (not the movie BS) is doing HEMA. Traditional boxing and wrestling could also be a HEMA and would certainly have practical aspects. So it depends on which art you are talking about. It is just the same as Eastern Arts. Horseback Archery or the use of Chinese Polearms isn't going to be practical in the modern urban context; forms of Karate, Kung Fu and Jiu-Jutsu which were specifically designed for close quarter conflict and civil self defence might certainly be. (Look for Patrick McCarthy and Jesse Enkamp on why most forms of Karate were probably designed to be used against the surprise attack of a mugger rather than a stand up battle or even a street fight.) If you carry an umbrella, you could adapt some techniques from martial arts to help you use it in self defence - I wouldn't recommend trying to emulate Japanese or HEMA sword cutting techniques - as the umbrella won't stand it.