In this video, I go over the 10 worst trades in AFL history. Enjoy!
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@user-pv3lu7ix8vАй бұрын
Freo trading Andrew McLeod for Chris Groom. You missed the worst trade in the history of the game. There will never be one as bad as that ever
@SomeGeekFromTwitter3 ай бұрын
In the 2014 off-season, collingwood sent Dayne Beams to Brisbane along pick 69 in exchange for pick 5, 25, and jack crisp. Those picks turned into Jordan de Goey and Levi greenwood. Beams was an incredible player, yes, but I think it's fair to say crisp, de Goey, and greenwood were far better.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
great example of a bad trade
@tysondahmes58323 ай бұрын
Lets not talk about the beams return deal trade 😂
@Chuckakhan3 ай бұрын
Yeah the trade back is worse
@historyofwaverleyvflpark85173 ай бұрын
TBF Brisbane’s hands were tied with that trade. They were coming off the “go home 5” saga, and an established superstar wanted to go to Queensland. That years top 10 players were interstate based so there would’ve been the concern of pick 5 leaving after their first contract was up, and if the lions didn’t jump on Dayne, the suns most likely would, which would’ve set a bad precedent for a club in dire straits at the time.
@TRBCL2 ай бұрын
i mentioned this when we first made the gf in 18 and everyone said it wasn't relevant, the 2 players we had ended up winning the gf for us
@maxshiraz34473 ай бұрын
Tim Kelly trade gave Geelong enough currency for Jeremy Cameron, and basically a Premiership
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
technically yes
@darrennoble14743 ай бұрын
That would make it a good trade. Not a bad one
@watcherinmaze29 күн бұрын
@@darrennoble1474 arguably a bad trade for WC though, Kelly hasn't really properly fired
@bens46127 күн бұрын
Ironically one of the picks geelong gave gws for Cameron netted them tanner bruhn. Only for the cats to nab him off them as well two years later
@biggi3st3v317 күн бұрын
Everyone criticises wc for that trade but if u look at what they could have had, at best they would have picked up some ok role players. Tk may not have quite lived up to it, but he has won a b and f and there are games we likely wouldn't have won without him. We overpaid, but its not as bad as made out
@skipwoosnam34093 ай бұрын
Adelaide didn’t trade pick 2 for Carey, it was pick 4. Then due to draft restrictions for Carlton’s salary cap breach dropped the pick to 2. Adelaide said they wouldn’t have traded if they knew prior..
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yes you're right
@samward13173 ай бұрын
Just because a club managed to snag a draft steal with a low pick doesn't make trading away that low pick a "Bad trade" for the club who traded it. The recipient club could have just as easily drafted a nobody who never played a game with their pick 32 or whatever. E.G when Sydney traded away pick 31 for a player, it's not really anything to with that trade that Brisbane were lucky enough to pick up Simon Black at 31. Every other team could have drafted Black earlier if they wanted to. Likewise, Hawthorn picking up Sam Mitchell at 36 shouldn't count against Fremantle. Hawthorn's first pick that year (pick 16) was Rick Ladson, if those picks were reversed, nobody would think Fremantle made a terrible trade.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
some good points, will definitely consider if I make a part 2
@user-vn2sf1eg6z26 күн бұрын
I agree, at pick 31 all clubs didn't think Simon Black was first choice. In 1994 Essendon gave Freo Todd Ridley and Tony Delaney for pick 4 and a priority pick. We used it to get Scott Lucas and Matthew Lloyd.
@peterhicks35163 ай бұрын
At the end of 2012 the Eagles had Dean Cox, Scott Lycett and a guy by the name of Naitanui on their list. The did not need another ruckman, Grundy. It would have been fairer to rate this trade if you compared Wellingham to the next best Half back Mid fielder from that draft. A quick look at the draft from that year shows very few players doing anything near what Wellingham did at the Eagles. This example, is, an unfortunate, weakness of your analysis.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
understood
@isaacmadhwan4453 ай бұрын
great comment, and good to see creator interacting with fans and criticism 👍👍
@steveo409521 күн бұрын
Grundy helped west coast win the 2018 grand final with his terrible game . I take this trade as a win for west Coast
@timdee6292 ай бұрын
Fremantle trading Andrew McLeod must be the worse
@StuTheDon1726 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was waiting for that disaster Freo refer to as the 90s. They were historically bad back then.
@keraptisblackrazor26583 ай бұрын
Andrew McLeod traded for Chris Groom 340 games 2x Premierships 2x Norm Smith 5x ALL-Australian 3x B&F traded for 7 games of Chris Groom.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
one of the Crows best ever players
@digimont3 ай бұрын
@@Kaleen_YT ...and absolutely accepted by the entire industry as the most one-sided trade ever, and yet...doesn't even make your list. Hopefully, an oversight on your part.
@adamgribble393626 күн бұрын
Maybe just sp obvious it goes without saying. @@digimont
@EAST_FREIGHT_STATION3 ай бұрын
😁 Even more painful for the Dockers is that Luke Hodge won 2 Norm Smith Medals, not just one. Great video.✔ Very cool. ✔ 13 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked the video. Yeah, very painful for Freo indeed.
@Code_breaker_3 ай бұрын
🏈 How right you are to have Brodie Grundy in the thumbnail, after his short stay at the Demons. 13 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
absolutely
@beadyink8813 ай бұрын
I'm loving the comments section. Great video! How do I get into contact with you for business enquiries?
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Discord
@lindsaywilson94393 ай бұрын
Fremantle when they traded Andrew McCloud to the crows for Paul rovrray in 1995
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
another bad trade from the Dockers
@dougharrison78443 ай бұрын
That was Chris Groom, but the player Macca turned out to be would make this trade worse than most on this list.
@lindsaywilson94393 ай бұрын
@@dougharrison7844 yes it was Chris groom after I wrote it I was like oh shit an don't no how to edit haha 😂😆
@RobKieranz3 ай бұрын
☁️
@darkhawk19793 ай бұрын
Basing it on picks is fraught with uncertainty, Hawthorn took Mitch Thorpe with pick 6 in 2007 and Geelong took Joel Selwood at pick 7. I was hoping for a list about direct player trades. Your #1 missed a few details as well, Trent Croad was traded as a forward and only became a backman when he came back to Hawthorn. McPharlin ended up being a pretty decent player for Freo as well so the trade wasn't completely abysmal.
@mrporkchop-lx6ed3 ай бұрын
They were worried about selwoods knees i think, crazy right
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah i should have considered the uncertainty of draft picks more heavily, will do next time
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
crazy for sure
@mondop52702 ай бұрын
Getting rid of croad was freos gain
@darkhawk19792 ай бұрын
@@mondop5270 Good, I'm glad it gave them the resultant success!
@jaxon61183 ай бұрын
1975 off-season Richmond would give away Graham Teasdale, Brian Roberts, and Francis Jackson in return for John Pitura. Wasn't worth it I believe
@blackdogRexy3 ай бұрын
And 45K in cash for only 40 games from Pitura. South Melbourne football teams and pub patrons were definitely the winner. You could buy a decent house in a decent suburb for 45k in 1975.
@peterkotsonis25353 ай бұрын
What made the trade where Hawthorn got Hodge and Mitchell even worse for the Dockers is that they sent Croad back to the Hawks and he won a flag. Even if McPharlin is a Dockers great, they lost the trade in a landslide
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah, it has to be the worst trade ever
@toddmillar40413 ай бұрын
And McPharlaine although turned out alright couldn't stay on the park for about 4 seasons
@christopherharvie87163 ай бұрын
To be fair I think the Ottens trade shows the difference in club culture. Ottens was a bit of a disappointment when he was traded I think it fair to say Geelong were hope for less than they got. The fact Ottens became the footballer his potential had hinted at at Geelong tells you more about the clubs than the players involved.
@89Djm3 ай бұрын
Brodie Grundy wouldn’t have had the same career behind Naitanui and alongside Lycett.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
good point
@89Djm3 ай бұрын
@@Simmo_AU Naitanui would have never been displaced as West Coasts #1 ruck. Not by a player he convincingly beat head to head. Grundy thrived as the main man at Collingwood.
@LucUltraRWB3 ай бұрын
Loved it Kaleen!
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Good to hear
@toddmillar40413 ай бұрын
I can't remember who they too instead but the Dockers had 1sr dibs on Andrew McCleod in some start up team concessions. In fact the dockers could own this whole video Peter Bell and Winston Abraham spring to mind
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yes, a few people have mentioned that one
@evilstorm595410 күн бұрын
Don’t forget they had a sht coach so they could have had their pick of the competition to fill the team and still would have come last.
@Sticks31Ай бұрын
Before your time, but Ian Stewart, St Kilda, for Billy Barrot, Richmond. Stewart, who had already won 2 Brownlows, picked up his third in 1971 at Richmond, playing 78 games there, while Barrot only played two games for the Saints. Admittedly, it was in the VFL era, but still a shocker.
@yukageorge25282 ай бұрын
freo were the real losers in the wellingham - grundy trade, they picked Josh SImpson the pick before who played a whopping 2 games. With an aging Sandilands on their list, eagles already had NicNat.
@PaladinCasdin26 күн бұрын
Surely the Tippett dumpster fire deserves an honourable mention (I know Sydney picked him up in the pre-season draft, but the whole mess was kicked off with an attempted trade).
@Chuckakhan3 ай бұрын
Mate they got Ballard who will be an all Australian before his career is out, Bradshaw has been good but Freo are incompetent as shown by the Luke Jackson trade.
@Jrevo77Ай бұрын
brayshaw already has an all australian and top 4 brownlow finish his a gun anyone would rather have him then ballard
@francodalpozzo75333 ай бұрын
Richmond - Pitura to Sth Melb for Teasdale, Roberts & Jackson. Sth also traded away Terry & Neale Daniher for Neville Fields
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
good pick
@EvilMonk203 ай бұрын
That last trade was bad enough that Freo basically won those 4 flags and handed them to Hawthorn lol! I tend to think clubs can extract a lot out of players. I remember when the media gave shit to Collingwood for recruiting the "overweight" Leigh Brown, who starred and helped the pies win their 2010 flag. (Same could be said for players like Luke Ball, Darren Jolly and Paul Medhurst) Geelong has been so good in the last two decades, that basically any sketchy looking trade seems to work out for them. Teams often know what they need more than we can, but sometimes bad luck can happen. Your "Worst trades in AFL history" includes a couple where one side of the trade was badly injured and career ending. I mean, that's hardly a "bad trade" as much as it is, just "shit luck", right?
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah it has a lot to do with luck, and injuries must be considered aswell
@biggi3st3v317 күн бұрын
I was never comfortable with the wellingham trade, thought we massively overpaid in giving a first round pick. That feeling didnt improve with the capability grundy showed
@StuTheDon1726 күн бұрын
The Wellingham-Grundy trade wasn't bad. Both teams won. Collingwood got an All Australian ruckman, and West Coast got a half back that was pivotal in them reaching the 2015 GF. More importantly, West Coast wouldn't have drafted Grundy if they held onto that pick because they already had a guy called Nic Natanui. And don't forget, Grundy's form got so bad they shipped him off to Melbourne. Then he essentially played VFL for them, so they shipped him off to Sydney. He has been bad for a while now.
@BLUEPRINT_SCHEMATICS_3 ай бұрын
🏈🏈🏈 Adelaide Crows: Trading away Jack Gunston to Hawthorn. Jack Gunston in three peat 2013 2014 2015. 4 goals in 2013 Grand Final. 13 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
definitely a terrible trade
@digimont3 ай бұрын
@@Kaleen_YT Well, the facts were that the Crows wanted to keep him, he wanted away, so what do you do? If you play hard ball, he possibly misses a season, ends up where he wants to be and the Crows get nothing.
@stoinkydoinky2 ай бұрын
@@digimont100% OP is an absolute idiot, Gunston walked out on the Crows so we were forced to trade him
@Manseb8 күн бұрын
I think effectively if you're saying Daniel Wells to North Melbourne and Wayne Carey to Adelaide was one of the "worst trades" I think that's a bad take. Carey had plenty of good games for Adelaide, but just didn't play at the lofty heights that he reached at North Melbourne when he was often thought to be one of the greatest ever players. He had a freak injury. Daniel Wells was a highly skilled player at times, but I think he was a bit inconsistent. The Roos never had a fantastic record with him from memory. I don't know if you actually saw Carey in Crows games.
@GondorHornКүн бұрын
Wellsy was a gun at North for the next decade while Carey was at his end. It was a good trade by North.
@raziomar35703 ай бұрын
Brett Deledio trade to gws giants is worst trade period
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
i'll have a look into it
@AustSaint3 ай бұрын
Mitchell never won the Brownlow, he was given it after Jobe Watson was unjustly forced to give it up.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah, it's debatable
@travisincognito965226 күн бұрын
Not sure the Grundy/Wellingham trade is as lopsided as you think
@Code_breaker_3 ай бұрын
😁 Brendan Fevola to Brisbane. 13 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
for sure
@GondorHornКүн бұрын
Any trade North Melbourne has done in the last 8 years belongs on this list.
@Sauraus13 ай бұрын
After looking at this comment section I’m convinced it’s the 13 02 2024. Anyways great video Kaleen!
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Wow crazy, I didn’t know that. Thanks btw
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah3 ай бұрын
Yep. That's code breaker for you. Dudes been putting the dates in his comments for 4 years now 😭
@TomAtkins-tk9lm3 ай бұрын
Great video
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
appreciate it
@michaelluke48733 ай бұрын
Tyrone vickery to hawthorn, he was absolutely useless
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
great choice
@theiaofseed3 ай бұрын
Free agent not a trade.
@mrporkchop-lx6ed3 ай бұрын
He kicked the ball too roughy and roughy kicked the winner against Sydney, about the best thing he done 😂😂
@AMW1able3 ай бұрын
another Dockers' trade is actually worse than trading Pick 1. They traded Andrew McLeod for Chris Groom. Chris played only 7 games before being delisted after just one season
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah I forgot that from this list
@turbyoulance2 ай бұрын
Tippet to the Swans was the worst trade ever
@officialHbTcsАй бұрын
Hardly
@caltravels945427 күн бұрын
West Coast paying max for Tim Kelly is up there. But when you are down and are the wealthiest club you can gamble a bit aye.
@albertmiller2electricbooga8973 ай бұрын
May I ask what years these trades were made?
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Wayne Carey 2002, Michael Martin 1999, Brandon Matera & Brayshaw 2017, Jude Bolton 1999, Nathan Lonie 2005, Jasper Pittard 2009, Simon Black 1997, Brodie Grundy 2012, Brad Ottens 2004, and Luke Hodge & Sam Mitchell 2001
@frillhaus22 күн бұрын
Missed the fact that Croad got traded BACK to hawthorn and was apart of the 08 premiership team
@RobKieranz3 ай бұрын
Some good left field ones there
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
what do you mean by that?
@EAST_FREIGHT_STATION3 ай бұрын
😁😁😁 Intro: Jack Ginnivan in a Hawks jumper....A train wreck waiting to happen. 13 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
we'll see about that this season
@TheLaughingMagpie3 ай бұрын
Tew Jiath is going to be a star
@EAST_FREIGHT_STATION3 ай бұрын
@@TheLaughingMagpie Hawthorn's Jiath averages 9 games person. He has already played 5 seasons. Jiath is an average player. 14 02 2024
@prosserd20 күн бұрын
It's lame comparing players to picks as it assumes the other club would have taken the same player. The Eagles for example would not have drafted Brodie Grundy for 17 so the implication they gave up Grundy for Wellingham is false.
@LucUltraRWB3 ай бұрын
Why is it all people in comments with the 13 02 2024 far out
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
No idea, must all be big fans of the channel
@braidenmcbride93203 ай бұрын
Your pfp hurts my eyes
@LucUltraRWB3 ай бұрын
@@braidenmcbride9320 too bad
@brucejensen308126 күн бұрын
Crameri for merrett, seems pretty good for the bombers
@jesseharvey37715 күн бұрын
Jobe Watson won the 2012 brownlow medal.
@Blank-mx5yv3 ай бұрын
can you plaese do each teams worst trade of all time ?
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
maybe in the future
@b3npeters3 ай бұрын
Ottens was shit at Richmond. He was a completely different player at Geelong. We lost the trade by a mile but it worked out for both of us in the end so that one I’ll take
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
yeah it could have been a worse trade
@blackdogRexy3 ай бұрын
Chris Yarran and a nasty habit for pick 19 was a shocker, particularly given the Blues knew about Yarran's issues.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
he was pretty good during his playing years
@darrennoble14743 ай бұрын
I'm a tigers fan and I was filthy when all that shit came out
@paulgill204227 күн бұрын
Judd for Kennedy was pretty good for West Coast.
@Thediamondduck1127 күн бұрын
10:09 and even if you won the Brownlow retrospectively
@user-jg6pi2si8v29 күн бұрын
Magpies had a player called Cole and if we got Ling and our ruckman Wood poetic licence we would of had Col Ling Wood
@wadeclarke53563 ай бұрын
West coast traded Chris Judd to Carlton in return they Chris Masten and Josh Kennedy
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
100% West Coast won the trade
@mikfalk801927 күн бұрын
West coast traded Judd for Kennedy. Turned out best for West coast.
@demonbadger863 ай бұрын
Eh Pickett won a norm smith at port… I doubt they’re unhappy with the trade
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
good point, in their only premiership aswell
@OldmanGamer99992 ай бұрын
Traditionalists gotta traditionalist I guess.
@charlesca57633 ай бұрын
Josh P Kennedy. Enough said.
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
you're the first one to mention him.
@24kCringe3 ай бұрын
W ❤
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
W comment
@benjaminparkinson52553 ай бұрын
Yes we got cam
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
of course
@scottcamm181619 күн бұрын
Not to mention we got croad back for nothing
@reecetapper775122 күн бұрын
West Coast trading Jarad Scoffield for Scott Cummings
@user-jg6pi2si8v29 күн бұрын
It wasn’t a trade but Collingwood could of got Cameron Ling in the draft what a mistake that was
@adamfranklin935324 күн бұрын
Pretty sure the worst trade was fremantle trading Andrew McLeod to the crows for Chris Groom
@owendavies745229 күн бұрын
Freo weigh ⚓ to go, pick up a few and let the Champs Go.
@officialHbTcsАй бұрын
Carey wasn’t a “good” trade, but Adelaide’s worse? No. Bryce Gibbs at 32 for 2 firsts and for him to just do nothing (less than Carey ever did) and play in the 2s on a big contract
@tradwardАй бұрын
I'd enjoy these videos more if you called Hawthorn the poo's and wee's instead of the brown and yellow.
@brentondavy-sn6wt3 ай бұрын
None of these compare with Fremantle trading Andrew McLeod for Chris Groom. None!
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
you're not the first person to say that
@thegaminggang3613 ай бұрын
Why did we let Soldo go?
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
Not sure, why did you?
@konner52133 ай бұрын
Richmond told him if he wasn't the number 1 Ruck at the club within a year then his trade request would be honoured. Nank the Tank was the no.1 ruck and the Italian Giant got traded because of it.
@warriors131321 күн бұрын
Sorry what? Cam Mooney was bang on average. Bolton was amazing
@stoinkydoinky2 ай бұрын
some of these aren’t bad trades but just poor draft recruiting love the concept but there’s so many other ones you missed
@TheLaughingMagpie3 ай бұрын
Chad Morrison for pick 37, that pick turned out to be Mark LeCras
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
great pick
@fredsmith413418 күн бұрын
grundy
@brucejensen308126 күн бұрын
Mitchell and cotchin got given a brownlow, they didnt win it.
@Kadey007Ай бұрын
We’re the Eagles the west coast eagles
@brianmurphy6243Ай бұрын
Be great if you had the right video to go with the commentary.
@Go_Bombers3 ай бұрын
Sam Mitchell didn’t win a Brownlow
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
2012?
@FUSHANDCHUPSBRUSWEET3 ай бұрын
Mitchell didn’t win the Brownlow tho….
@Kaleen_YT3 ай бұрын
how?
@FUSHANDCHUPSBRUSWEET3 ай бұрын
Didn’t get the most votes, he got a pity prize
@owendavies745229 күн бұрын
Freo weigh ⚓ to go, pick up a few and let the Champs Go.