Would putting hot ice be better

We cooled a shop on a farm using a water well that filled an irrigation pond. From the well the water was pumped through a couple semi radiators with box fans attached. We had to have a drip tray below the fans because of condensation.

Should have used dry ice or liquid nitrogen

@@xnviper3631 I'm no expert but I've seen plenty of comments on this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5-El5imsqjDpoU.html on why using dry ice is a terrible idea, even fatal.

Yeah I did this design.. it worked a lot longer than 45 min.. the ice melted after about 4 hours but I had about 3-4 feet of coiled copper buried in ice inside the chest circulating the water in addition to coil on the fan. It kept that water freezing cold.

@Jason Sincerely enjoyed and appreciated your science, I learned something. Did ya have to pee on the party though? 😋😜

I'm inclined to trust your opinion as an HVAC tech, because this was all greek to me. Impressive though, but you would know whether this works or not.

I would think the answer is....that while the ice cubes in the cooler are cooling the room but melting ...and moving from cold to warmer, the ice trays in the fridge are freezing water and a manual refresh of ice cubes is added to the cooler again, so that this ultimately has less environmental impact than a throw away portable and also keeps you physically fit cause it gets you off the "couch" by having to periodically replenish the icecubes? This system while crude seems cheap to maintain and is very simple a answer, my question is, just how good is the heat/cool exchange of the copper pipes, and you've already touched on this....so the quick anwer to your question is fresh ice cubes go in the cooler periodically.

so just put it in a window?

@@raillanmcneill8401 sir.... It's literally elementary school science...

I was going to suggest the same thing :) also in the attic space. a fan that would exhaust the hot air from the garage would make it more comfortable as well

You cut a hole in your garage wall? I assume it was between the studs.

You cut a hole in your garage wall? I assume it was between the studs.

WAITING 😉

Waiting still

Yes!! I expected to see the Temps after you built this! What the f*ck is up with that??

Still waiting

Yes 🙌

I agree that the first thing you should have done was insulate the garage door. Easily done with foam adhesive and foam board. For ice, use gallon milk jugs or 2 liter soda bottles filled with water and frozen. Will last far longer than ice cubes. And as this is now 6 years later, the cost is closer to $200 not counting the door insulation.

brufadeve and one more thing I see alot of these negative comments your talking about and some of them don't even know how to spell which is funny. I loved this video

Not much if the room is a typical size or the temps outside are high..all these gadgets are neat but not worth the money spent. just get a air conditioner...

Probably wouldnt really lower the temp of the whole garage but if you have the fan pointing towards where youre working i bet it feels better than just normal fan blowing. Also this dude is dumb for buying ice you should freeze water in some gallon jugs or something and re use it 👌🏻

@@banehogs5589 It's basically re-engineering the old school version of putting a block of ice in front of a fan.

Well Water with ice will only my get up to 32 degrees so I’m 5 degrees f cooler than the garage temp

@@banehogs5589 Did you have to call him dumb to make your point?

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Interesting.

Yeah there is not enough surface area on the copper pipes for heat transfer. A better method would be to make an imersion chiller with the copper pipe, stick it in the ice water, and connected it to a heat exchanger. See desertsun02 videos

Interesting.

Tom Nally that is its correct name, but an easy mistake

@ProBannedMiner25 and how much are you going to keep spending on ice

@ProBannedMiner25 right. So now you're paying to make the ice you want to melt and for your other air conditioner to cool off your kitchen

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An enclosed cooling system like this is much cheaper to operate than a typical AC unit..I like it because it doesn't have the humidity problems that a swamp cooler brings into the mix.. As for ice you can freeze 1/2 gl. milk jugs and keep them on hand to reuse on a daily basis and swap the "spent" out with fresh jugs..Yes I do that with just a fan and an aluminum pie pan..Its not the "most" convenient.. its limited by the amount of cooling capacity.. but if you have a freezer of frozen water jugs it will cool things down for only the electrical cost of operating a submersible pump, box fan, and freezer

WELL HE IS JUST SHARRING HIS IDEA LOL.... 😎😎😎😎😎😎 LETS BRAVO HIM...😍

MrDgwphotos yep with tax only 109.99 for the extra 10 you can be lazy.

All depends on the size of the room to be cooled. $100 units won't cool much.

MrDgwphotos and those A/C Units will jack up your Electric Bill

not to mention the constant purchase of ice. If you make the ice at home your house ends up getting warmer

Raul Cipriano me personally... I'm actually looking into buying a legit icemaker found one from a gas station for 100$

It didn't lol a 100 dollar ac unit would be far better.

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Brett Harper that’s why he kept touching the coils

This is literally a DIY swamp cooler which is just way over thought up. If he took the ice and put it in a strainer over the bucket but in front of the Fan it would have had a much greater effect.

Poor buddy, you have actually done that?

@@BenjaminSodos A swamp cooler works by evaporating water to lower the air temp. It also will raise the humidity. That is fine in an area where the humidity goes low but not so well in an area where the humidity is above 80%. I actually built one and added it to our central air unit here in southern Florida. When the humidity is low, the water temp is about 10°+ cooler than the air temp. 6 to 8 when the humidity goes up. But the air coming out of the condenser unit also even after picking up the heat from the house is the same as the incoming air. So they can work. 90° day and 90% humidity and the water might be at 82°-84°. As the fan has to run anyway, the only added electrical use is the water pump to circulate the water. Which mostly is water ( condensate ) from the A/C unit and from the dehumidifier in the house.

Check out the homemade AC 5 gallon bucket

I installed a solar powered garage vent fan. It sucks the air out of the garage creating airflow which lowered my garage temp by at least 30*. Cost me 15$ at HomeDepot. More cost efficient and runs itself for free when it's hot out. Plus this is 100$ plus the cost of ice, water, electricity each time you run it...

@@matthewcastle3364 what solar fan at home depot is that?!? Only solar powered ones I've seen were in the hundreds

@@matthewcastle3364 Works as long as there is cooler air outside to pull in. Best is to insulate entire garage first; cement floor will act as a heat sink to cool the space; adding REAL A/C will complete the job.

@@x.y.8581 put a mylar blanket to reflect sunlight of the garage door

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u made my day i so needed a laugh like that

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Lmmfao

This is a space heater when you consider the for the fridge to make the ice, it had to extract heat from water and pump it out into the room from the back metal tubes, and fan spinning and water pump actually create heat too

He did test it, with himself

Did not show it couse it did no work lol

yeah maybe like 1 degree, so he's going to sweat a few drops less in an hour.

Agreed

yes that was my question. What's the temp now after running for 1hr?

It will make the room hotter. The tap water will warm up, get pumped into a cooler where it will stay warm, then only warm water will get pumped through the pipe. In addition, the fan and more so the pump, will be creating heat. This means an overall gain in temperature.

when all the ice is melted you should change it or turn off the cooler and close all of your window room to preserve the coolnes

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Because with Trump’s super Tariff, the price have gone up bigly.

@@yolamontalvan9502 I just check there are a lot for that price? www.walmart.com/search/?cat_id=0&query=small+ac+unit

@@yolamontalvan9502 should just blame yourself... On the net is the only place people like you have a spine.. In person you're a jellyfish

He'll save more money in the lowered energy cost I'm guessing.

There's a couple of reasons why this is better for a garage / enclosed space: Window AC units stick out through a window, or hole in the wall for two purposes. There is accumulated water which needs to drip somewhere, and the heat exchanger needs to exhaust air outside (otherwise it would completely negate the cooling, if not cause /additional/ heat) Those portable units have the same requirements, though usually a bit easier to deal with, if you have a window (but then, why not just get a window unit?) Portable units have 2 things over window units: usually less power draw (so no dedicated circuit, or worry of overloading a circuit) - and they're, well, portable - meaning you can move them around within the room, or to other rooms as needed. A home made swamp cooler (which Ben created here), requires neither an exhaust port nor dripline, and is portable. It also requires much less amperage than either AC unit. The downside is that this will cool a small area barely to humane levels in those temps. This is a good design, if for temporary / non-permanent use. For a more permanent solution, this can be scaled up to a buried 55 gallon plastic drum, automotive radiator, and a single motor to run a spindle pump and fan unit. Burying the barrel to a depth of about 4-5 feet (the bottom) will allow the water to cool off better, as ground temps are usually stable at much lower temps. Using a stable liquid, this can be left in service for a long time. I wouldn't use water alone for this. Possibly automotive coolant as an additive and stabilizer if not something else. I've seen homesteader plans for using PVC pipe buried in the ground, in a U shap. One end is outside of the home, with a capped T on sideways - the top being capped and used for cleanout purposes, and the side with a screened off elbow for air intake. The other end is inside, with a blower fan pulling air in. The pipe has to be long enough, and deep enough for the air passing through to be cooled off. This isn't usually something suitable for suburban settings though. So... his homemade swamp cooler, even being $100, is a better use for his purposes. And, it'd made a great power-outage cooling system, running on a generator or battery system.

2nd that

Maybe he did it that way to reduce the condensation mess it's going to make, either way.

You notice that too🧐

Were you trying to make a "subtle" point? The guy's young and slim and so likely doesn't sweat as quickly nor as much as fat, old men. Which are YOU?

@@The_DC_Kid or it's all bullshit

This is a swamp cooler

@@michaelsickinger9741 it is similar to, yes. But not quite the same. A swamp cooler usually works by having a membrane full of water that a fan pulls air through. The water evaporates and cools the air, but also introduces that moisture into the air in the form of humidity - thus the “swamp” in “swamp cooler”. If you live in an arid desert that wouldn’t be too bad, but if you are in, say, Houston, the last thing you need is more water in the air. A design like this one avoids adding additional moisture to the air by keeping the water and air from actually contacting one another, instead having the water pass through a closed system.

@@HowdyFolksGaming if you instead used a minifridge with coils inside the freezer part instead of ice in a cooler. you would effectively made a poor mans's mini split unit. just put the mini fridge outdoors. the only draw back is your mini fridge might not be powerful enough and burn out the compressor.

there is better makes then this guys

If you run a heating and cooling company and attempted this you need to find a new trade. We're you surprised it created a lot of condensation while being used I'm an attic? So fucking stupid

@@coryryder9070 yeah we made a way better one with a powerful pump. But it doesnt matter. It doesnt work very well. We strapped a pan to the bottom of it with a drain tube. But its just not enough cooling capacity to make a difference.

@@MJC-he3zt No, we weren't surprised, we were prepared for condensation. But to us it was worth a try on the chance that it could possibly help. Too bad you think we are "stupid and should find a new trade". But we think we will stay in business since we are excellent at what we do. Its ok to try new things ya know. Thats how greatness is achieved. Have a peacefull day.

Nice

Ikr, this video is not CooL at all.

Not even hard

@Just a person I have a freezer out in my shed. You don't know the circumstances of where the materials come from. I can make ice in my freezer that's attached to my refrigerator. That's all I'm saying. No need to down the video just because other people have a different circumstances. What if he's renting? Can't cut holes in a house you don't own.

Rather convenient how he left that part out, isn't it?

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@@samlabo1688 A 20 degree drop in room temp is a good thing. But at what cost?

My thoughts too. It should have taken the edge off of the total room temp, but thanks for the video!!

whats it called? I need it lol

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Smythe and Taylor that’s what I was thinking. Would have been great with a thermometer with before and after

I'm guessing there's next to no effect from it. It's a woefully bad design to begin with.

@@kebman I did a design similar to his but better and more expensive using an old car radiator. It really does blow ice cold air (colder than standing right in front of an ac vent) but eats ice quickly. Part of it though is I need to insulate the attic above my garage. After doing that I bet it will work better (last longer or get the temp lower or both).

druidboy76 probably didn't make much of a difference tbh

I know, he had the laser thermometer and everything

put a metal plate in front of the fan. use the laser thermometer to measure the temperature of the metal plate. it's not terribly difficult. and there's no reason to be insulting to someone else the way you were.

Is that why they use them in the A/C industry? lol. Ya I know, they take the temp of the vent, but you could put something in front of it. PLUS he had a GINORMOUS thermometer!

yup.

It will humidifie the room and transfer atmospheric heat back into the room. Now if he could create high presser in there, he could get the humidity back out and our drought problems are solved.

that would help the most

Probably a far better idea than the unit he made.

Zero, you need a real air conditioner...

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He seems like a real nice guy but before making videos learn some basics - that was a coping saw not a hacksaw and hose clamps not pipe clamps 2. Anthony Sambataro brings up a good point so we know if it cooled off the room or do you have to sit in front of it which not much work is getting done in your shop. 3. Design a Misting system for the garage door and install some insulation on the inside of garage door 4, Overall design in theory is possible but not effecient where more surface area of the tubing is needed to match the amount of air blowing across it. If you were able to baffle one person with your brilliance to make one then mission accomplished but I reccomend removing the video

Anthony ... I was wondering same thing ... I'd like to know how efficient it is.