No, you don’t start with Morphagene, since it is not a true granular sampler, it’s a tape machine. And beside this, the company offers terrible face plates. The text font and the print looks absolutely chaotic.

Thanks a lot !!! i will definitely come back to the lemondrop soon

Hope you enjoy it!

@@substan_music I sadly didn't, I got the Fireball instead and that mangled my patches so I sent it back, huge shame!

@@JamesRamboPearce Dammit James....why the hell did you get the fireball?

Thanks a lot !! The ADDAC112 looks also very interesting but I have already the morphagene and the nebulae2 in my rack .... but being able to play polyphonically like with the lemondrop is a completely different story.

Thanks !! ... those were exactly my thoughts :)

From what i've heard, i prefer the sound of the Lemon Drop... Did you end up getting one?

Having owned two GR-1s, I can confidently tell you that you couldn’t make these sounds on it.

Thanks a lot ... it's a single held note but there is a lot of movement in it. I think in general samples with nice overtones (mostly in the attack phase) works great .. that's why piano or kalimba is used so often. Sounds with a lot of movement and change of the frequency spectrum result in exciting and lively granular sounds ... also field recordings are great. The opposite would be a simple subtractive pad where maybe only the filter opens and closes... don't expect anything exciting from that. But of course it depends a lot on what you want to do.

@@substan_music Thank you for your response! It is extremely helpful. I've been playing with various samples in my lemondrop and was looking for more ideas.

Voice samples?

How?

@@kingtrance307 iConnect Midi4+ with iPad and Quanta or FRMS then usb audio (D-D) to PC or Mac + LK as midi controller for Ableton

@@mikg2618 - You cracked the code… 👍

Thanks .. I think I just played it with the Keystep of camera

No overlapping. Just 2 granular oscillators with one sample each. Highly recommended to take a look at Tempera if you want overlapping samples ... that's THE box for such things ;)

Thanks a lot !! I honestly admit that I have not used the lemondrop that intensively so far. But don't get me wrong...I still love it...it's more the too much gear and not enough time syndrome. I understand your concerns... sure a granular synth will sound like a granular synth most of the time... but that's exactly what I expect from it. Personally, I can't get enough of the granular stuff... I already have a few modules that work granularly, but being able to play the sounds polyphonically is an asset. For me, the lemondrop is a huge playground ... I don't care much if some sounds sound similar ... it doesn't get boring. greetings from germany

@@substan_music So, if you pretend to love granular sounds but admit that you don't use your Lemondrop extensively, there's only one possible explanation: you have other granular devices and I want to know which granular device you prefer over the Lemondrop.

Vielen Dank !! ... ist in den letzten Jahren (leider) sehr sehr selten geworden. Bin aber gerade dabei mir einen plan für ein neues live-set zu machen .. könnte also vielleicht bald wieder öfter vorkommen.

two are usually better than one 😉 ... the lemondrop is no exception.

Thanks !! I have build a patch on the Hydrasynth .. recorded a single note into the DAW and put it on the SD card.

No, the X-Y-Pad is only intended for manual input .. but of course you can have the parameters used on the x and y axis modulated with an lfo ... which has the same effect. But of course more modulation option would be always a good thing 😉

Not really, granular synthesis excels at pads and ambient stuff mostly. You COULD make basslines, but you'd get faster results with a subtractive, FM or wavetable synth. There are better value wavetable synths but the Fireball might be the one you want if you like the Lemondrop feature set and form factor.

@@Monkeywhip thank you very much for reply

I can only agree with @Luke Smith There is nothing to add.

Well, I would like to buy my first synth...I would like to use it for bass, but not limited to (i also like ambient stuff). I don't really care about type of synthesis; I just care about size (max 37 keys), low menu diving and high "out of the box fun". Can you give me any advices? Budget is around 450usd. Thanks

@@tonyhc427 I’m tempted to recommend a bunch of synths but in practice I’ve found there are too many factors making it a very personal choice. There is no perfect synth, there are always trade-offs, so the best thing you can do is figure out what matters most to you, and what you really want to do with it. Why do I want hardware when software is so cheap and powerful? Do I care more about features/versatility or immediate interface? What types of sounds do I most want to make, and what kind of synthesis produced them? What kind of synthesis am I familiar with or interested in learning? These will all have a huge impact on your choice. E.g I’m a hobbyist who likes very small desktop synths I can sequence or play with my Keystep. I like them to have enough focus to do their job well, and enough depth for me to explore. I like sound design away from a PC screen so easy patch creation and naming is important, and saving FX settings with the patches is ideal so good built in FX helps a lot. The Dreadbox Typhon was a good fit, but the trade off was being monophonic. Your needs will most likely be different. Good luck! If I HAD to choose a synth that seemed capable in most ways and also cost effective it would be the Hydrasynth Explorer (which I don’t own) but I think it’s out of your budget. But even that isn’t ideal for everyone.

Tempera :) ... but joking aside ... unfortunately I can't say anything about the texture lab. I've never had it in my hands...but it looks like a fun box. I REALLY like the Lemondrop but since 1010music can't (or doesn't want to) fix an annoying bug that causes a crackling sound when you push the device to the limit, I've unfortunately had to leave the Lemondrop out lately. For me the Tempera is THE dream of a granular synth.

aside from scrolling through the menus i totally agree.

Thanks !! .. yes .. it’s a keyboard off camera.

OK Thanks ! I have 2 other questions before buying one : can it be bitimbral (différent notes on each G Granular layer)? Can we play Lemondrop synth in the same time as the Line out (I want to inject my Mother 32 for bass enjoying the Lemondrop Reverb)? Thanks a lot !

@@somethingintheuniverse760 no .. you can’t play each oscillator on different MIDI channels / you can use the signal from the input as source for the oscillators .. but you can not run it parallel to the osc through the FX.

Too bad for that price ! Thanks anyway for your explanations :)

yes of course ... there is a pitch parameter for each oscillator