1073-Style Preamp Blind Shootout: WA273-EQ vs. Vintech X73i vs. BAE 1073 vs. Great River MP-2NV
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Күн бұрынIn this BLIND 1073-style preamp shooutout video, we put the Warm Audio WA273-EQ, the Vintech X73i, the BAE 1073, and the Great River MP-2NV up against each other on acoustic guitar & male vocals. Can you tell which is which? FOR THE RESULTS AND A COPY OF THE HIGH RES AUDIO FILES:(without KZfaq compression), give us a call at (919) 682-5552 or email us at proaudio(at)soundpure.com.
GEAR LINKS:
Warm Audio WA273-EQ: www.soundpure.com/p/warm-audi...
Vintech X73i: www.soundpure.com/p/vintech-a...
BAE 1073: www.soundpure.com/p/bae-1073-...
Great River MP-2NV: www.soundpure.com/p/great-riv...
Peluso P-67: www.soundpure.com/p/peluso-p-...
TIME CODES:
Solo Acoustic Guitar
Mic A: 1:32
Mic B: 1:49
Mic C: 2:07
Mic D: 2:24
Solo Vocal:
Mic A: 2:41
Mic B: 3:08
Mic C: 3:36
Mic D: 4:03
Full Mix:
Mic A: 4:31
Mic B: 4:59
Mic C: 5:27
Mic D: 5:55
All these 1073-style preamps are available for our exclusive Try Before You Buy demo program: www.soundpure.com/trybeforebuy/
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@MelliMontana 3 жыл бұрын
1073 Shootout: Vintech, BAE, Warm, Great River OFFICIAL RESULTS 💯 A: Vintech X73i B: Great River MP-2nv C: Warm Audio WA273eq D: BAE 1073EQ Source: I emailed them and they responded within 24hours. Like this comment so more people can see ! 💯💯💯
@PaulEubanks Жыл бұрын
Before i looked at the comments I thought "yeah I really like D the best". Good to know it's the frickin' most expensive one. D:
@hangingwiththehendys Жыл бұрын
Just going throughout the video before comment section I loved A and B… A was neutral and warm, B had a nice saturation compression type thing that I could see as a solid benefit in a lot of situations. … C was kinda thin, D was ultra hyped and forward… present, and not my taste.
@vanitune9458 Жыл бұрын
This is so crazy, at the end of the video, I decided to go with “C” and it turns out, I already have that mic-pre! I didn’t even which one it was until I read the comments. I’m buying another!!!!
@Fartinhalerr Жыл бұрын
To my ears A and D were pretty close, B seemed a bit darker and C a bit brighter. They all sounded good for sure and I doubt anyone's mix would be harmed by using Any one of these.
@easternsouvenirs 10 ай бұрын
I was digging B the most, A next, and C and D last.... honestly shocked because I assumed B was BAE. Dang. What
@DistinctAndReticent 3 жыл бұрын
A: Vintech B: Great River C: Warm D: BAE
@theblowupdollsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the official answer or your guess?
@theblowupdollsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@kempetai2099 thank you. I tried to email them and got no response.
@summerfazed 2 жыл бұрын
Warm audio has annoying high mids. BAE is brighter, but better??. Vintech and GR are similar. I think the vintech is smoothest even vintage tone
@ThePickledOnions 5 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous. Come for the shootout, stay to be told you can't have an answer.
@mleightle9289 5 жыл бұрын
D sounds so damn good without anything, and with processing, it was my immediate first choice for open, airy, full, open sound...simply amazing...
@TheGurner1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, please tell me which pre was which in the shootout? I'm guessing: A, BLA B, Great River, C, Warm, D, Vintech
@heartland3887 4 жыл бұрын
C is sooooo smooth and goes well with anything!
@tecno8335 5 жыл бұрын
A: Vintech X73i B: Great River MP-2nv C: Warm Audio WA273eq D: BAE 1073EQ They all sound great but these are the actual results. Make your own decision and contact soundpure for the HD audio stems it's worth it.😀
@Grantborland 5 жыл бұрын
Great River and BAE where my favorites out of the four. thanks for letting us know man!
@guidosc3470 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly D .. even i listen just on my phone XD.. but Think- If you don't like or hear it on your phone- is it worth the money?! I'm just saying. (Btw -Oftentimes my s9+ reveals more high information than my kh 310)
@everythingtakin 4 жыл бұрын
Even from my cell phone I knew I liked c. Im glad if its the warm audio because thats the one I been really thinking about buying I just have interface at moment 6i6. 1st gen. Maybe to help would anyone know if with a single channel via rhe inserts I can you this as a insert on a bus. Which wouldbe stereo. Would it knock it down to mono back in. Do I need a 2 channel to do a stereo mix down on this wa73eq.? Thanks for any help first external pre here and I dont mind stepping up my game. Thank you
@AnimAHipHopTV 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! Definitely buying a great river.
@charleshale8504 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the way C sounded first time listening, D to me was the best; thanks for posting this
@hisroyalsucculence 6 жыл бұрын
To be clear: the first two takes (A & B) are from one mic that has been split, and the second two are from the second mic that has been split (C & D)?
@lukesuperflyjones Жыл бұрын
Man how I miss sound pure. Good to see a blind test video once again
@RooftopRecording 5 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the hi-res and got the results. These pres quality is MUCH more apparent in the hi-res files. I agree with SoundPure that it's a really good idea to get the hi-res and listen again. Thanks again, SoundPure!
@giorgiodibenedetto3599 Жыл бұрын
Hi would you still have the files by any chance? (I'll send you a pm with my email address in case) I am pulling the trigger on one of the units but I wanted to listen to the hi-res files first. Thanks!
@RooftopRecording Жыл бұрын
@@giorgiodibenedetto3599 you just need to send a message to SoundPure and they'll send them to you. I expect they want to build a database of potential clients, and I don't want to subvert that. I'm sure I dumped the files shortly after anyway.
@giorgiodibenedetto3599 Жыл бұрын
@@RooftopRecording hey thanks for your answer! Yes I emailed them and pinged them again but I didn't get any reply unfortunately! I'll send you a pm with my email address if it's fine with you, thanks a lot!
@JohannesLabusch 2 жыл бұрын
I thought these were a bit pricey, but I didn't realize that you guys are throwing in that gorgeous Collings at no extra cost! Cool.
@stillphil 6 жыл бұрын
a) clean clear b) wooly c) Thick d) Present : thick and clear C & D are my faves
@keithrowe1007 4 жыл бұрын
Question, sorry, not a pro: isn’t the whole idea behind a 1073 to jack the gain and saturate the hell out of it? Like on rock drums or guitars or bass?
@thesoundresidence 6 жыл бұрын
B and D with great margin.... A and C were thin sounding, part grainy and lacking "weight". A and C may fit some sources of corse, but as far as quality goes, B and D all the way...
@Grantborland 5 жыл бұрын
110% agree with you dude. Love how detailed and clear D sounded and B sounded very smooth and warm to me!
@INeedsMoneys 4 жыл бұрын
@@Grantborland i heard the opposite, A and D sounded thin, but D was clear when A was boxy/canny. B and C was warmest. D is clearly thinner than C. C overall won for me, both warm and clear. D was nice on guitar tho. A was trash.
@pavmx703 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing. I couldn’t decide between B and D but I think I liked D more in the mix. Crazy how clear the difference was. I didn’t think it would be that noticeable.
@RickBatyrMusic 6 жыл бұрын
B and d anyone find out yet ?
@sttdvs 2 жыл бұрын
What is the pre D? Love all shootouts for all gear but a bit frustrating when there’s no info on the shootout…
@shane2973 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I kept thinking C/D sounded good in the bottom. I would listen through and when C came up it sort of grabbed me then I felt like I would pay attention and D was cool too
@rayrav__ 8 ай бұрын
Would you recommend Using the Eq on the signal chain tracking vocals? Because I see a lot of people eq later on in the mix. But I like the eq sound on the pre amp. What do you think?
@indyawichofficial1346 2 ай бұрын
Use it as you like, what sounds best for you. The EQ stage engaged in the box was part, and is part of the particular "sound" as said here, yet it depends, there is no single way to paradise. What I found a determining difference between real Neves (1073, Aurora GTCQ) and the clones is the amount of saturation in certain ratio between in / out, where the rest breaks up in "nevish" way, the Neve original additionally brings up the "compressed" upper register in a way, I haven't found in Great River ME1NV (which, although not directly a clone, I love and use daily), or in other "clones" such as Vintech, but also Heritage Audio..There is actually a big discussion about true Neve 1073 sound in terms of topology of non eq 1073 preamps mimicking exactly the input stage / output stage signal path of the original, however without EQ there are certain shortcuts or solutions to compensate for its sonic absence, and also dynamic range, such as in example of probably most revered Bae or recently hyped Heritage Audio....
@blerkh 6 жыл бұрын
I've twice sent you an email asking for the high res files and the results, and have not received a reply.
@banters9333 6 жыл бұрын
Think I preferred Preamp A and C best. A for the warm/smooth sound, while C felt a little more modern/hi-fi, both great-sounding. Which ones are which?
@soundpurestudios 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Banters Official... shoot us an email and we'll send you results and high res audio files: proaudio(at)soundpure(dot)com
@banters9333 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did this just after I posted the comment actually. Thanks! :)
@keithrowe1007 4 жыл бұрын
Guitar: 1:35 A. 1:52 B. 2:09 C. 2:26 D. Vocals lower register. 2:43 A. 3:11 B. 3:37 C. 4:06 D. When your rooster crows. 2:52 A. 3:20 B. 3:47 C. 4:15 D Full mix. 4:33 A. 5:01 B. 5:30 C. 5:58 D. FUll mix 4:43 A. 5:11 B. 5:39 C. 6:07 D
@JacobraRecords 3 жыл бұрын
thank you. You can really hear how much the top end is open on the BAE @ 4:06
@ZiggyVision 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. My favorite is the B Pre Amp. Can someone tell me which one it was? didn't find anything about it ..
@AlCapwn369 Жыл бұрын
great river
@DrUmSensitive 5 жыл бұрын
B all to the way to my ears! Both guitar and vocals...
@MrGuitarist9891 6 жыл бұрын
I really wish you would put the answers to what preamps were what at the end of the video
@soundpurestudios 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Eduard... the reason we don't is that we think we are all preconditioned to judge the results instead of really listening to the differences. You can email, call us, or just shoot us a Facebook message for the results: business.facebook.com/SoundPure/
@dr.joshaxe1251 6 жыл бұрын
Hm. An annoying but confessedly appropriate response.lol.
@Mike-pv3hg 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for warning me before i got a few mins in. Not watching, subscribing, calling, faxing, or joining any mailing lists. Fail.
@Alezcollection 6 жыл бұрын
soundpurestudios You could easily just put the answers in the description, at least. The majority are not going to bother emailing, calling, etc. No disrespect at all whatsoever and I appreciate your efforts to make a video like this, but in reality I’m not even going to finish watching the video if the names of the preamps used aren’t in there at least in the description.
@baristosun1745 6 жыл бұрын
I sent an email last week, still waiting for the results!
@jasonmartin8467 5 жыл бұрын
Great test, I wish you had also tracked a drum kit, mono in front of the kit. That is one area where you can really hear how a preamp reactions to the drum transients as well as its overall tone.
@JailanOnSax 5 жыл бұрын
What microphones are those? Anyone know?
@djboriginal 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, did I miss the reveal?!?!?! Great, 9 minutes and 8 seconds of my life I won't get back. Thanks Sound Pure...friggin awesome...SMFH
@siriusfun 6 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking D is the x73i. Has anyone received the results and if so, can confirm or deny this?
@CzarPharo 6 жыл бұрын
Denied
@bunker5tudios495 5 жыл бұрын
it is not hehehe
@kirstensray 4 жыл бұрын
I liked D on the guitar and B on the vocals, and B on the full mix. A seemed abrasive in the highs. I didn't like A at all. C took all the sparkles out of the highs. C was very smooth and warm and nice to listen to, but not preferred over B and D. Probably with EQ A and C could be fixed to be something I would like. Who knows what these same pres would sound like on a different source. A: Vintech X73i B: Great River MP-2nv C: Warm Audio WA273eq D: BAE 1073EQ
@ryanshook8284 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT!!! Blew my mind. Honestly. I have a Warm Audio and wanted to badly sell it for a BAE or Great River, but after watching this it reinforced that I just need to stick with what I already have: the WA273-EQ. I expected C to be the Great River. Goes to show - - always trust your ears!!! I loved all of them though, except the Vintech (A). Idk why. However, I still want and like the Great River for its girth. Girthy. A - darkest of the bunch B - lower low-mid weight to it C - crisp but still weighty, my fave D - most detail, but gave the impression of less weight
@artwerkmedia8616 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for wasting my time.
@YngHstlr Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@michaelyolch79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work in putting this together. The Great River is my hands-down favorite. It treated the entire frequency spectrum beautifully.
@celiuskroontje 4 жыл бұрын
Which preamp was preamp B and C? i like it!
@fernandoamarante 6 жыл бұрын
I like the C preamp. What's the C premp? Thanks
@tecno8335 5 жыл бұрын
Wa 73
@PlottingTheDownfall 6 жыл бұрын
D was smooth and very 3D sounding. The vocals when pushed kept from getting strident. C started to get pinched when the vocals got pushed but sounded great in the lows and mids. But I feel that the headroom wasn't quite there. B would be my next choice - my guess it's the Great River and A is the Vintech. But hands down I would choose D for overall smoothness and bigness from low to high, and C would be my choice for a bit of an edgy sound. Any one of them would work.
@strazza555 4 жыл бұрын
Listening on sonarworks calibrated HD600s, and like the vintech and great river the best. I own a vintech and was thinking about trading it for a BAE cuz of the hype, but its too aggressive, not what i want in a 73, it hurts my ears when he pushes his voice, the GR and V dont, GR is smoothest but may have a little too much low end if it was your only pre. I did not expect these results, but happy to be talked out of losing money in a trade. everyone seems to prefer the BAE, I wonder if people just like the more in your face sound?
@user-kn6jl2mt7b 6 жыл бұрын
d is the most expensive sound. b is the most compressed, insensitive. but I prefer b. i felt b is the most musical sound for this type of song. i really like that smooth transient.
@nelsonstarr5356 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Soundpurestudios, what are the results? I've clicked the blue button and checked here but I don't see and haven't heard about the actual results. It's a shootout, we really need to know--for the sake of your journalistic credibility here!
@JohnPickup-CDHS-ze6qd 9 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain this? Whenever I try to patch my Vintech into a channel on the console, I only get a faint signal. But if I pull the TRS connector halfway out, I get the full signal. None of the jacks are unbalanced, so I don't understand why just using the tip would give me a full signal. All the cables and jacks are working fine. Could it be my $1,400 piece of shit preamp?
@Theophanes68 6 жыл бұрын
B if I had to pick just one pre, D had the best mids to my ears. They all sounded very nice in the full mix. Thanks guys and I appreciate you NOT posting the results, it absolutely would’ve created biased replies!
@crescentmoon54 5 жыл бұрын
You guys perform in Carbroro too???
@onetoo5899 6 жыл бұрын
B all the way for me compressed in KZfaq... Specially on vocals and full mix... Smooth as hell,creamy and full sounding, never harsh. Not as much bollocks and nerves as an api. Really Neve-ish sounding and very different than the 3 others... As the only "no 1073 clone" could it be the Great River stuff ?
@BaserockStudio Жыл бұрын
I was surprised to find the bae to have such a bright and brittle top end. The great river is magic, very balanced and natural. One of the best preamps on the market by far.
@easternsouvenirs 10 ай бұрын
Right?? very strange. Great River sounded best to me as well
@jimsmithson2936 6 жыл бұрын
can you do one with drums
@ProducerBryan 5 жыл бұрын
BDCA. Results? Anywhere? Gah. 😔
@fernandozaldivar1920 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that as a retailer, SoundPure probably don't want to take sides and this could be the reason why there was not a reveal at the end of the video. But this could be counter productive because it leads viewers to reach the wrong conclusions. If we assume that A, B, C and D's identities were in the same sequence as on the video title, then I definitely don't mind spending $500 extra to get B (presumably a Vintech X73i) and I definitely don't want to spend my money on A (presumably a Warm Audio). If my conclusion is wrong (as it probably is) then SounPure is doing a disfavour to Warm Audio. In summary, please give full disclosure and allow viewers to reach their own conclusions.
@JRandallS 6 жыл бұрын
I'd guess B is the one without the EQ button, it was also my least favorite on the quiet passage of the vocal, but really opened up nicely went it started to be driven. Listening in earbuds through KZfaq I'd probably choose "C" as #1, A as #2, D as #3 and B as #4. However that could all change if I had a chance to play with the input and EQ. Also I would have preferred to hear these on a Neumann U-87 as I am not as familiar with that particular mic.
@soundpurestudios 6 жыл бұрын
The Peluso P-67 is a Neumann U 67 clone we really like. That said, totally understand that being familiar with the mic helps you make a judgment. Check out our product page videos for more info on the Peluso: www.soundpure.com/p/peluso-p-67-switchable-pattern-tube-microphone/2643
@draztiqmeshaz6226 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a proper ABCD gentleman. Props to the singer. Subtle pipe control. Hey what kind of lavalier mics are you using?
@fsync 6 жыл бұрын
A treasure hunt for the shootout results?! What can I say. It sucks that I invested 10 minutes of my life here. Its awesome that I never again will.
@chrisjames_official Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to hear the pre/ eq driven a bit on each unit to here the field open up.
@bitspacemusic 6 жыл бұрын
Which one is B? I'm ready to order.
@tecno8335 5 жыл бұрын
Great river
@Sneakyybstrd 4 жыл бұрын
own the great river pre, had it for 8 years, my ears chose C though as my favorite, my least favorite was a, and b. Maybe I'll get a wa73 gotta here more tests.
@BaserockStudio Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting I thought the great river was my favorite all the way though (I also own a couple). I felt that the warm and bae’s top end was brittle and pokey with the bae being the worst.
@andYz00m 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video but there is a buzz in your audio track during the voice overs.
@epg2501 4 жыл бұрын
And B is??
@evidencebasedmusic Жыл бұрын
warm (c) is the clear winner for me. Not to dark or dull, and not harsh like D.
@darrendegouff9965 5 жыл бұрын
I think "C" is the BAE. It sounded like the richest tone (no eq, but the carnhill transformer sound).
@gmo2932 3 жыл бұрын
Love that there is no answer of which is which. Every other shoot out always says the most famous brand is the best once they SEE which one is which.
@nickpiscopo5 6 жыл бұрын
I built that exact same U87 clone. not bad at all. gets most of the people who don't look at it 24/7
@rlpmlr 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just watch this whole video, and you didn't tell me what the pres were. I think A was the best. What was it????
@EandVEntertainment 6 жыл бұрын
Rick Parker the Vintech.
@johnbreedlove3245 5 жыл бұрын
Hello. Bad video for promoting your findings
@trixlee5102 3 жыл бұрын
And, dare I say, pro engineers make too much out of the differences in mic pres. It's understandable for a recording engineer to praise certain mic pres that they use all the time, but in reality most normal listeners aren't going to care or be able to discern the differences. These are all high quality and so close in sound you won't be able to tell the difference in a mix unless they are side by side like in this video. If you have any of these mic pres you should largely be set in your home studio, if you have enough channels of them. You'd probably get more mileage collecting different microphones for tonal variety in a studio rather than mic pres.
@db-sq3oh 6 жыл бұрын
C does the magic for me..great low end and sound so musical..D is no2 ..I dont like A and B..
@rickyreyes30 3 жыл бұрын
C is definitely the best. Can anyone say what preamp C is with certainty??
@KeenApollo 3 жыл бұрын
Wa 73
@gorannilsson4721 4 жыл бұрын
OK I just checked the guitar part. (Much work to do here.) They are all different loudness. (but all have the same loudness in both L and the R channel) A: loudness = -16.5 dB (LUFS) B: loudness = -16.2 C: loudness = -15.9 D: loudness = -16.3 So C is the loudest followed in order by B , D , A . Still after these corrections I think there really are differences. C is warmer than the others (of course this must be WA) and A is the most NEVE-LIKE (I think so). Nice Music Playing !
@PapiCee 5 жыл бұрын
B sounds great on his voice
@bryanunderwood 6 жыл бұрын
B on guitar and C for vocals.
@geckovision 4 жыл бұрын
Whos the musician... No credit.
@michaelcaplin8969 5 жыл бұрын
No class keeping the results from us. This video helps nobody decide what they should buy, and I think that is the sole reason most of us are here. Too bad I, and probably many other here found one of these an absolutely awesome preamp, but won't be able to know which one it is and won't be buying any at this moment, even though I would have done so in a heartbeat had I known which one it is. Again, bad taste.
@plan4studios977 5 жыл бұрын
If your actually interested all you have to do is email them! They do this for your benefit not yours! So you use your ears!
@daniel777L Жыл бұрын
i hate them for this. i'd rather they had shriveled up and died instead of taunt me like this
@premiumproductions9041 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree .. This video was a complete waste of time
@ereiffman 2 ай бұрын
It's actually not that hard to force us to use our ears by withholding the results... But then revealing it at the end
@TruenorthmtGod 2 жыл бұрын
3 and 4. 4 being the best to my ears
@contactblaxound7040 2 жыл бұрын
So the answer is?
@yurikalashnikov2460 2 ай бұрын
One of the best part of this is seeing how everybody has completely different perceptions and preferences. It’s all over the place and conflicting.
@duffharris9295 Жыл бұрын
Very surprised to find I liked the Warm Audio most and the Vintechs least... My whole world is upside down.
@clinterz 2 жыл бұрын
The brand I usually like the best came in last. The brand that I have no experience with sounded the best to me. No major surprises, but really not what I expected.
@BaserockStudio Жыл бұрын
What brands are you referring to?
@clinterz Жыл бұрын
@@BaserockStudio I love all of the BAE pres that I've used/owned. Great River is the brand that I've never actually used and I didn't expect it to sound so good. I own a couple of Vintechs and the VA573 is what I currently use when I want the 1073 sound.
@mostyles328 10 ай бұрын
A competent audio engineer could easy work with any of these tracks. I would have loved to hear the comparison with just an audio interface preamp to hear the larger contrast as a baseline. Great video!
@tokiboi6777 3 жыл бұрын
no credit for the musician. who do you think you are?
@TheAndrewforbes88 Жыл бұрын
I downloaded the hi-res files and while there are clear winners to me I don't think the winners justify their price. Based on this comparison I would go with the Warm Audio because it's the most affordable. The difference was not stark enough to spend the extra money and in my experience the Warm Audio stuff is pretty reliable. These all perform well. I really like the BAE, but it's substantially more expensive than the Warm Audio.
@matrixmodulator 2 жыл бұрын
Mic A: 1:35 Mic B: 1:52 Mic C: 2:10 Mic D: 2:27 Full Mix: Mic A: 4:34 Mic B: 4:62 Mic C: 5:30 Mic D: 5:58
@Lexxo777 5 жыл бұрын
I like B the best, D a close second, A was OK except on mix (stacking), C was harsh and upfront, not smooth at all.
@pkjake8622 6 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us which one is which now?
@soundpurestudios 6 жыл бұрын
Well, we don't want to spoil it for others, so send us an email and we'll send you the results, along with the high res audio files so you can compare the nuances without dreaded KZfaq compression: proaudio(at)soundpure(dot)com. If all you want is the results, call us at (919) 682-5552 during open ours (10 a.m. to 7 p.m. EST M-F). You can also send us a Facebook message, if that's easier: business.facebook.com/SoundPure/
@torydanello2817 5 жыл бұрын
I liked D and C in that order
@JustMamba 3 жыл бұрын
C sounded the best vocal wise.
@richiefamus8778 6 жыл бұрын
Even on youtube, B is so big and creamy that it has to be the GR.
@rachidajewher8649 3 жыл бұрын
yes same thing for me this is exactly what i heard
@rogerio_guitarist 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I go buy it I will definitely ask for A, B, C or D. Don't waste money on X, Y or Z!
@laurakittykitty 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot W! Don't waste money on W either!
@krissheehy 4 жыл бұрын
I really loved the WA273 & BAE units. WA273 smoothed out the highs in a pleasing way but I can see how some may interpret that as muddy. Nothing the 12kHz knob couldn't adjust though. The BAE 1073 had clarity on the top end but I sometimes felt it was too much high end presence and could feel it getting a little annoying. Again, nothing a quick 12kHz knob couldn't adjust. That being said, If I had to choose between the two with a $799 price point vs $3200. Seems like a simple choice. :P
@stillphil 6 жыл бұрын
The singer by the way is a master ventriloquist isn't he...
@rocketstudiocr 6 жыл бұрын
yes indeed
@uzefulidiot 6 жыл бұрын
B, D, C, A. D and C are close enough.
@chandeleerjet5637 2 жыл бұрын
D was far more better on every source. So good that I'm ordering whatever pre that is when they get back to me with results.
@kral8104 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have much spare time due to my work, and you guys just wasted 9 minutes of my day... THANKS
@paolocecchinelli 5 жыл бұрын
Tell us! Tell us! Tell us! Which is which??? :)
@fatherofpearlmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping he would get the guitar part right by the 4th take...
@COLALIEN 6 жыл бұрын
I like D
@ASKYAmusic 5 ай бұрын
Great River is best to me. Smooth, not harsh, balanced and clear. Surprised by the BAE, sounded quite saturated in a harsh way.
@number6photo Жыл бұрын
What I notice the most is a quite unpleasant characteristic in all the recordings when the vocalist is near his peak volume, especially during the following parts: ... when your rooster crows at the break OF DAWN; look out your WINDOW babe ... Is this mic overload? Were all the preamps, or the A/D, clipping? I didn't download the original files, so I don't know if it's related to KZfaq's compression algorithms, but I doubt it. I listened on several different playback systems at my disposal and I hear it prominently on every one. Whatever it is, that's the most-noticeable thing in this shootout to me, and I wince every time he hits those parts. I hear differences in the preamps during other parts of the song, but I find it difficult to focus on those differences as I grit my teeth every time those distorted parts roll around.
@brandondavid5009 Жыл бұрын
I liked C the most on everything. I’m a Grammy nominated recording engineer and I’ve used real 1073’s hundreds of times. They all sound slightly different. To me, C was the closest to the real thing with D being the second closest. Anyone know what is what? Thanks
@alextorchio5625 6 ай бұрын
C is Warm Audio
@ChristopherczarSmith 6 жыл бұрын
Guess I'm the only one who didn't like B on vocals, but B wasn't clear in the low mids and lacked the detail to me. Any of the other pres sounded better to me than B.
@TheOpenJam 4 жыл бұрын
Vintech on Acoustic guitar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm36s and Warm audio on acoustic guitar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm10s GR on acoustic guitar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm53s BAE on guitar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm28s GR on vocals: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm11s and BAE on vocals: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm06s Vintech on vocals: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm43s and Warm Audio on vocals: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a919dciZsNypoY0.htmlm39s
@compucorder64 Жыл бұрын
A tended to be my favourite overall, especially on solo guitar, but also solo vocal. D was marginally my favourite on the full mix, sounded well balanced. I wasn't too keen on B overall, definitely stood out as the only one I didn't like: was smooth but too dark / veiled compared to the most open sounding A. C overall I still liked tonally, was similar in flavour to A in tone. Though it did sound a little driven by louder moments in the vocal; not as clean as A. Overall, I think I'd score them A: 9, D: 8.5, C: 7, B: 5. Be interesting to hear Neve's own 1073LB in the mix, since it's price is quite attractive, if you own a lunchbox. And the AML ez1073, and Heritage audio HA73 for good measure. In Europe BAE and Vintech are very expensive compared to the Neve 1073LB which is up there with the Vintech imho. The Heritage which is relatively affordable if you want EQ and don't want to go with lunchbox format. I tend to think in Europe it would be worth stretching to the Neve 1073LB, compared to the WA73 which is good, but not quite great. So the question for me is how the Heritage and AML stack up in comparison.
@nashvillehitmachine-offici7936 2 жыл бұрын
In this shoot out A wins more transparent and open EQ what ya want
@wellens_artist 2 жыл бұрын
Just saying, but with 2 different mics (even if the same model) you can introduce way more variation than they're potentially would be between the different preamps. For instance, I have 2 Aston Spirit at home and one sounds like they're is a 2 db shelf boost from 6-7khz and up... C and D sounded brighter and more airy up top than A and B to me, I wouldn't be surprised if A and B where from one of the mic and C and D from the other. I could be wrong... But It would be best for this test to only be done with only one microphone.
@scshepherd 6 жыл бұрын
What a waist of time, these get your email phishing vids are crap and I wouldn’t do business with a company that plays these games.
@MOTOTravelUK 5 жыл бұрын
great video, pretty clear you don't have to spend big money on great sound. Vindication for the Warm 73. Great. Just got a b stock item for £450 on eBay. Thanks again.
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