Guys this is American just because you are not gonna hunt with it doesn’t mean you can’t own a .338 win mag 😂 I don’t need nor hunt with 80% of my guns but I have them because 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

I actually really enjoy hearing the extra banter after the ten minute talks are done. Thank you for adding those clips to the videos again!

Whenever I hear Jimmy say: "... ten-ish minutes with the..." and I notice the video is 22 minutes long. This is gonna be good.

Good conversation guys! For the six years I lived in Alaska, I carried a 338 WM on nearly every hunt for everything. The 338 WM is stout enough to handle a bear situation and flat shooting enough to reach across a canyon. My Alaska load was a 225 grain TTSX that worked well on everything from Kodiak Brown Bear to Mountain Goat, Caribou, and Moose. This podcast has me thinking maybe I should bust the old girl out of the safe this weekend.

I absolutely LOVE the 338 win mag. It's my do all cartridge. Elk are down and dead at 500 yards and never had to chase a wounded animal,. Pairing it with a Berger, it's got great long range ballistics and 250+ gr bullets are freight trains. If you want to hunt smaller game, can use a 180 or 165g. It is so versatile. I also think it's felt recoil is less than a 300 win mag (own as well) -- more a push, that a slam. But, a lot of rifle manufacturers seem to be dropping it from their line up which is sad. And, factory ammo availability isn't great and is expensive. Maybe when we get through COVID that will change.

Love the 338 Win and 225gr Nosler Part in my Alaska hunting …. Moose at 475 yards piece of cake ! A true Alaskan cartridge. Reloader 19 in WW cases !

I have long drive to work and I play these videos and listen on my drive in, I really enjoy these cartridge talks and I learn so much. I appreciate these so much.

I would argue the 8mm Mauser is the father of all modern bottleneck cartridges, 1888, redesigned in 1903 (all they did was replace round nose, .318 bullets with spire point .323 bullets and a faster twist). The 30-06 copied the 7mm Mauser, which was a necked down 8mm Mauser. Countless cartridges spawned from those and .308 Win is literally a 30-06 short. So many cases have the same rim diameter and body diameter as 8mm Mauser. Honestly, the Germans kind of hit a home run with the 8mm Mauser case back in 1888. They then somehow made it even better in 1903. In my hand loads I’m able to get 8mm Mauser going about 50-75 fps faster and it has slightly lighter recoil than .30-06 for the same weight bullets. Downside is that typically .323 caliber bullets have slightly lower BCs than .308 bullets, but that’s fine for hunting out to 400 yards.

Much like Ryan, I am a huge cartridge nerd, know all the history, specs, etc. Also like Ryan, I have never owned a 338 Win Mag but also think it is a FANTASTIC cartridge! If you need to knock really big stuff on it's butt and don't want the excess cost, recoil and performance of the 338 Lapua, the 338 Win is all you need for anything in North America out to 600yds.

I'm loving these 10 minute talks. My request would be a talk on the 250-3000 and the 300 savage.

Best elk cartridge ever made. If I told you why you would hunt elk differently and subsequently be more successful, I'm not ready to give those secrets away yet.

As a fan of the 7mm Rem Mag, I always respected the .338 Win as the parent case to my favorite big game cartridge, and also as the minimum step up from the 7mm Rem Mag that makes sense for me. I always figured the .300 Magnums were over rated, and if I was to go any bigger than 7mm, the .338 was the next logical choice. The .300s mostly just add recoil. At least with the .338, you're getting an appreciable step up in mass and frontal area to make the added recoil worth it.

Can’t go wrong with the 210 nosler partition. It has never let me down. Browning bar 4 shots - lots of firepower

I've owned a Niko "Golden Eagle" 1978ish, a Browning A bolt and a feather light Winchester 338 Winchester Mag... The Niko which was a collaboration of 3 of the top gun manufacturers at the time .. Exquisite rifle that would rival the Whetherby at the time..very smooth..nonetheless they performed flawlessly.. it has yer back when you live in Alaska.. Brown bear need a romper stomper to stop them and sometimes a second or third, depending on how much adrenaline they dumped.. seriously 338 is a flat shooting powerhouse of a round that hits like a freight train...get a 338 Win mag!

My dad bought his 338 win mag M70 WIN in 1958 after losing his biggest mule deer on an Idaho hunt that same year that he shot with a 3006. I now have his 338 win in my safe and it is a favorite. I now shoot it's big brother the 338 RUM and have since 2001. I run a 300 gr Berger at 2850, a 285 Hornady at 2950 and a 225 Accubond at 3250. I will start doing some load development for the 338 win mag this spring to see what it likes in probably a 210 swift scirraco and a 225..

Was just thinking about this one last night watching Ron Spomer's. 338 Win Mag video! Y'all are on top of it. Good job.

I would think 7.92x57mm (1888) would be the father of most modern cartridges

This video deserved a like before I even watched it. I truly enjoy the cartridge myself here in Alaska thank you guys from vortex optics for talking about this one I appreciate it

I feel so happy you guys finally made this! I asked multiple times in the comments. Sadly not many rifles chambered in this caliber any more.

Still hoping to one day get an episode on the 35 Remington. It's just unpopular and understated enough that I think it would be an interesting conversation

The 338 Winchester magnum is a great big game cartridge. It’s accurate,powerful and feeds very reliable and easy.it has one drawback: recoil.properly handloaded , it gives up very little to the 340 weatherby.

I have been shooting a 338 win mag for over 30 years , great Sambar caliber , use 185 ttsx at 3150 fps.Have shot them out to 400 yds.

I have a Tikka t3 hunter in .338 win mag, it is a laser and a dream to shoot and hunt with. Would love to see a 7mm Weatherby episode one day.

Absolutely my favorite cartridge. I bought my rem 700 bdl in 338wm when I was 12 (I was a odd duck) been hunting with it for over 30years now. If my hunting buddy's see me grab that rifle to go hunt/take care if something they know I'm not screwing around. It's a great universal cartridge without a doubt. To me I always considered it the 30'06 of the medium bores.

I have a 338-06 Ackley Improved. It runs very close to the win mag except with 250 gr bullets with about 20 percent powder and recoil. I have taken all North American big game except the four sheep with it, including brown bear. 338 rocks for the big critters. It shines on elk.

The awesome 338 Win Mag I own a Ruger77 I used to hate. I replaced the trigger and the flimsy Tupperware stock and I immediately fall in love with it. Great Caliber especially if you reload. My 338 is very accurate with so many bullets from 180 to 250. I like to feed it with Hodgdon 4831SC, CCI primers, nosler bullets, and norma brass.

I have a browning stainless stalker in .338 Win Mag. I love it. It has a soft limb saver recoil pad and a Boss muzzle brake system. It kicks like my 30-06, not bad at all, get a brake and your fine! 210 gr Nosler partitions work great for big bulls!

Have a Pre 64 Alaskan model 70 in 338wm. Absolutely a great cartridge and rifle!

I used my 338 Win Mag for my Wisconsin Deer hunt this year, 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. Got both a buck and doe, single shot on both. Quick clean kill on both. The impact force of the bullet shuts the deer down quickly. I used it as a test, never shooting anything with it before always using my 30-06 for all past hunts. It is definitely an overkill but it did such a great job I will be using it again. It is a remarkable cartridge.

👋🏼 I’m glad to see this caliber discussed today, especially bc I just won bidding on a custom Mauser chambered on the 338-06 A-Square. I chose the chambering to fit between my goto 270 Win and my only Magnum, the 375 H&H. This caliber fits perfectly in between the capabilities in the my bookend calibers when you consider bullet grain weight each cartridge,is capable to push efficiently.. Please consider to touch base on this chambering even if it’s not on it own. 🤔 Such as a topic discussing very efficient and effective NON-Magnum rounds. 🙏

There is nothing better than a cartridge comparison discussion. I don’t care if someone already has one or not because it’s always fun to think about what else Someone should get

Had a 338 sendero since the early 90's it loved the supreme 200 gr bt have shot a 5/16 in group with but in the late 90's federal come out with an high energy 338 4300 ft lbs at the muzzle i have a few boxes left . I enjoy your vids.

I own 3 338WM’s, a 338-06 custom and a 337-416 Rigby Improved! Love my 33 cals. Also love my 375 Weatherby. Great cartridge the 338WM, very versatile.

Love the info, keep it coming.

I feel a 10 minute talk about a .41 rem mag coming soon.

What I like about it is, with some exceptions, it's kinda of the last cartridge as you move up in caliber that maintains high power rifle velocities (~2700 fps). When you get to the 350s and 375s, velocities tend to start dropping off.

I have a Winchester model 70 Sporter in 338 win mag and I LOVE it. I feel it is way to much for Antelope & Deer. I've shot a lot of animals with mine. Recoil is not that bad. Just let the rifle do what it wants to do. Don't fight it. Elk & Moose is where it really shines! 200 & 225 gr bullets.

My 338 wm was a pussycat. 700 KS Mountain rifle with a factory brake, 225 Partitions, fairly hot hand loads. It kicked about the same as my 700 Mountain 280, without a brake. Real manageable for a lite rifle.

338 win mag is unreal ! One of my Favorites ! I don’t find recoil too bad, with a newer recoil pad. Black Bears melt 🔥

I have a custom Teflon coated M70 .338 Win Mag with a Douglas XX sporrer barrel sitting in a Hogue overmolded stick that I absolutely LOVE. I handload 210 grain Nosler Partitions with IMR 4831. I have shot many southern states Whitetails with it. It is a beast

I would love to see y’all go over the 303 British always found it a neat cartridge with some cool history

I've used this round on big Canadian whitetail, mule deer and a couple bison over the years with shots ranging from close out to 400 yards. I found it to be exceptional on accuracy and in a hunting situation the recoil never bothered me a bit. First time watching your show great job guys

My 338. Wm is awesome. I love it. It bucks the wind, hammers game, shoots flat enough, and with my win mod 70 boss with it's break is very nice to shoot. Killed my first coues deer with it and it was perfect. It smashes mule deer and is fantastic on Elk and bears.

Without having intentionally eschewed the .338s, my mid-thirties collection started with a Browning-branded Model 71 in .348 Win, and eventually came to include a pair of .35 Whelens: a Remington 700 and a Remington 7600. Both of those chamberings tend more to the heavy shove sort of biggish recoil rather than the .338 Win’s reputed sudden shock hammer-blow variety. The Browning factory version of Winchester’s perfected stock design was the Model 71’s 'take me home' argument: That rifle is the epitome of ‘wieldy.’

I’m sure if Ryan purchased a .338 WM it would have a muzzle brake. I know mine would. Thanks. Good video

I have one ,I love it ,win model 70 super grade ,beautiful rifle

In fact, i only asked now, and y'all answered. Thank you!

I run a pre-64 model 70 in 338 win mag, 1 round smack down on everything

The first commercial 338 was the 33 WCF. It was designed in 1902 and offered by winchester until 1936

I have a 1993 Weatherby mark 5 and it's a 338 win mag. I absolutely love it

👍 for Thrusting!

I have a Ruger m77 in 338 and it’s one of my favorite rifles. It has a huge muzzle brake and a soft recoil pad. It genuinely shoots softer than my 30.06.

Nice video & caliber. The 338 Win Mag is a great hunting round and is pretty accurate out to 550-600 yards. Haven't shot it any further than that. Recoil doesn't seem that bad but I do respect it. A muzzle brake will help as will a synthetic stock. You can also try some of the lighter weight bullets although Nosler 225 & 250 AccuBonds and Hornady 230 ELD-X seem to be the most accurate/consistent in my rifles. Some of the 180-210gr all copper bullets hold potential & their recoil would be even less. Vortex, thanks again for this video!

I love my Savage 116FS in .338 WM. It is a light gun so the recoil is punishing but I can handle it. My 16 yr old daughter shoots it regularly. I bought it for Alaska because of it's versatility, I live in MO and have used it on whitetails every year. I recently realized that ammo has become expensive and scarce, it used to be easy to find and relatively cheap. I don't hand load, but may have to start.

I have one and load it with 230gr eldx bullets. Accuracy is excellent and it hits hard as hell. But I did put a JG recoil eliminator on it because it kicks like a mule... Harder than my 300 wm... and noticeably so! My first gun in 338WM was a Savage Hog Hunter. I believe it was the only offering in that rifle that came in LA which was strange to me. Very short compact package with iron sights and a threaded barrel. Very cool rifle. I still have, it but mainly shoot my chassis'd Rem 700 in 338WM these days.

Ruger No.1 in 338 Winchester Magnum, Love it. Heavy. But as I only shoot one rifle, it is my do all rifle for hunting. 225 grain.

I went to Namibia on my fist hunt there and discovered to my horror that a 7mm didn’t cut i AT ALL. So, I thought let’s go the whole hog and got a 338RUM custom rifle made. It’s like the Tiger tank of shoulder fired rifles ( as is the 340 Wby). The 338 WM suffers from a powder burn rate gap which can make it frustrating to load for. With the 338 RUM just load Rl-23 in it and shoot any bullet weight. Superbly accurate too.

.338 win mag is my favorite all around big game caliber. Whitetails to Moose to kodiak brown bear.

Being 74 years old and having trapped, hunted and fished my entire life and fed myself and my family with either trout, bass, tuna , wahoo , salmon , halibut. Deer , elk, rabbits, chucker , quail, ducks and geese, pheasants . Being raised in the San Fernando Valley and moving their in1953 you have to realize that the street was dirt until I was 12 years old and rabbits were everywhere. Though we had chickens they were egg laying which is why we had them.

300 win mag is one of my top 3 favorite cartridges. I no longer own one but hopefully will change that soon. I used to catch flack from all of my deer hunting buddies in my 200 acre club in Alabama. My lease, I'm president, so not too much lol. Seriously, it really changed when everytime I shot a deer, 3 bucks and unlimited does at the time, they dropped where I shot them and it didn't blow them to pieces like people believe. I mean knees buckle and straight down, no tracking at all.

I bought my 338 win mag model 70 back in 1991, for hunting in Northern BC. Still own the rifle, feels good in the hand when hunting in grizzly territory.

340 Weatherby mag indeed packs a helluva wallop. I've had experience with both standard and muzzle brake equipped rifles. Doubt I would ever shoot one without a brake ever again. But the deer that I've witnessed being shot by one simply fall on the spot. Versatility is great with them. I personally prefer one of the hot rodded 30s myself as an all around rifle, but wouldn't turn down a 338/340 mag if it were available.

I own 2 338WM a Ruger 77 and Browning BAR, the auto takes a bit of sharpest of the kick out. Both will drop the game where it stands with a correctly placed shot. It is the largest caliber I own, but for elk or bear it is the right choice every time.

That is my go to gun for big game here in Colorado and AK. In my Ruger mark 2 all weather, I can shoot 0 moa at 200 yards. The gun just fits me and works better than my custom rifles.

My absolute favorite as long as you keep range ethical

I started hunting big game with a Remington 700 BDL Custom DeLuxe cal. .338win. mag. and I'm still with him. I use 250 grain tips. It is a great all rounder. Congratulations on the video.

I have a custom built 338-06. My hand loaded ammo matches factory 338 win mag ballistics. I live in Canada’s Yukon. I’ve used it on grizzly, black bears 🐻 and moose. It works great for where I live.

I love the 338 bore! I don’t have a 338 Winchester but I’ve got a 338/06, 338/06AI and a 338RUM…

Great content!! Would love to hear you guys talk about the .357 magnum!!

I've taken everything from whitetails to moose and have never had my .338 win mag disappoint me (1980 to the present) and I currently have several of them. The Ruger #1 is my favorite (had a Lazzeroni 8.59 Galaxy stolen so it's floating around out there somewhere). I've shot every bullet from a 180 grain to Barnes 300 grain. I'm nearly 80 years old and not about to give up because of recoil. One of the finest cartridges out there.

The milking hands got me so good 🤣🤣🤣

Ryan thanks for the BC plug!

Someone finally nailed the pronunciation of Lapua. Well done.

Back in 2019 when I was looking for a larger caliber rifle to compliment my .270 Win, to potentially take out west. The .338 Win Mag was on the short list with a few others like the 300 Wby Mag, 300 RUM, 300 WSM, 30-06, 308, etc… I didn’t want to go 300 Win Mag since my Dad and brother have one. I came to the same conclusion Ryan did since I doubt that I would be hunting Alaska soon, and went with a 300 WSM

Love my .338 in a SAKO, easier on the shoulder than you may think (easier being a relative term), not one to shoot all day but it won't cripple you.

I don’t use the 338 WM much anymore, but for about 15 years I used it on Grizzlies, Moose, Elk, Mule Deer and Whitetails. 210 Nosler Partition was my bullet of choice for all of them. Including an 8’ B&C Grizzly. Never failed me. The 225 Nosler was just as accurate and might have been a better choice for the Grizzly but the 210 dropped him with one shot. It’s an incredible cartridge. Very close to the 30-06 in trajectory. The 250 grain bullets started to exceed my recoil limitations. I just hunt Blacktails now days and the 30-06, (the best hunting cartridge ever made) fills all my needs. But the 338 WM is a classic. I’d hunt anything on this earth with one.

I have a Browning A-Bolt II Medallion with the BOSS system in .338 Win. Mag. and I love it. I have taken Moose, Elk and many other large game with it. It is quite the cartridge. I reload so that does make for better loads but even factory performs quite well. Several years ago I was able to find and buy the exact same rifle "new in bow, unbelievable" since they were discontinued 15 years ago" for my son and he is as happy with his as I am with mine. This summer we plan on an African hunt and the .338's will be our primary rifles for big game and our .260 Rem's for everything else. I truly enjoy your channel. I would love to see an episode on the .260 Rem. some day. Actually to see an honest comparison to the 6.5 Creed would be nice. As a reloader I find the .260 Rem. is a better cartridge than the 6.5 Creed. I can get better velocity and flatter path due to the faster speeds. What is your opinion??

Would like to hear a talk on .405 Win.

I love the 338 win mag. Ican load it down for whitetails in southeast, or load it up for elk, moose or bear.

I bought a Winchester Model 70 in .338 Win mag for moose. It does recoil, but you don't plink with it all afternoon either.

I shoot a Ruger M77 in 338 Win Mag and shooting 210 grain Nosler Partition rounds can get clover leaf groups at 100yrds. While it does shove me a bit like a 12 gauge it is not nearly as abrupt on recoil as my son's 7mm Rem Mag. If we step up to the 250 grain Winchester Fail Safe rounds it will really push back hard, which is why it now sports a custom muzzle device after 25 years. Truly a one gun do it all for North America as well as most of the world's big game animals.

I loved this podcast, wish you mentioned the 338/378 Weatherby though. I have both and really get a charge out of them.

I just picked up a 1965 Winchester model 70 338 win mag a couple of weeks ago. Glad to see this came out to confirm I picked up a great rifle before I move to Alaska! The rifle is mint. What is everyone’s thoughts on removing the original butt pad for a limb saver?

18:15 and then they went the other way with the .240 weatherby being smaller denotion but faster than the .243 winchester. Or even kept it the same like the 257 weatherby

In my opinion it's a great big and dangerous game cartridge in general. It's fine for anything from whitetail to moose, bear and I have no doubts it's killed a lot of dangerous game in Africa. Even more interesting to me was that when looking at a .300wm and .338wm next to eachother, it's easy to think .300 is the much faster, harder hitting bullet, but when you crunch numbers... the .338 Win Mag actually slings a heavier bullet at the exact same velocity as a lighter .300wm. The advantage the .300wm does have is ever so slightly less drop beyond 500 yards. I believe .338 drops about 4 inches more than .300 at 500 yards. It's ballistically a perfect round for very, very small groups at long range. It's well loved, but not many own guns chambered in .338wm, and I think it comes down to recoil. Yes, it puts a real thump on your shoulder, but many .338wm rifles come with threaded barrels, and a muzzle brake can bring that monsterous recoil easily down to .243 levels.

"Don't blame me, I voted third party! I voted 7mm Shooting Times Eastern!"

“Got a lot of thrust” 🤣🤣🤣

A 375 raptor brings a curious brow furrow from me. 25, 30, & 35 Remington are also interesting

Love this cartridge, now do 416 rem mag

.338 is big and a lot of fun.

338 Win Mag suppressed is all you need very versatile even my 250gr is all I need from Eland and downwards

You finally did it, guys! Thanks!

I own a Winchester 70XTR in 338! Kicks like a mule!

Using 185, 200, 225, and 250 grain bullet weights for reference..., the best simple calculation that indicates the relative ballistic efficiency of a given cartridge and load is muzzle velocity divided by powder charge (MV per grain of powder). Averaged across the four bullet weights, the .338 Win. Mag. gets 40.4 f.p.s. of MV per grain of powder burned. Comparatively, the numbers for the other cartridges are 38.3 f.p.s. (.330 Dakota), 35.4 f.p.s. (.340 Weatherby), 33.8 f.p.s. (.338 RUM), 32.2 f.p.s. (.338 Lapua) and 29.4 f.p.s. (.338-378 Weatherby). Dividing the numbers just listed for each other cartridge into that for the .338 Win. Mag. yields the results that the .338 Win. Mag. is: 5.5% more efficient than the .330 Dakota 14.1% more efficient than the .340 Weatherby 19.5% more efficient than the .338 RUM 25.5% more efficient than the .338 Lapua 37.4% more efficient than the .338-378 Weatherby www.chuckhawks.com/338win_vs_super_mags.html

Own a 338 win mag in a Ruger #1 and absolutely love it! I own a 7 STW and would love to hear y’all thoughts!

To me the 338 Win Mag is really for the great bears. In my opinion, other than those critters, a 300 Weatherby, with the 300 Win Mag a close second, is a better all around choice. Great video!

You should do a pod cast on the 338 RUM. and the 375 Rum. Great pod cast I have 3 338 win mags they are great guns.

I have and still hunt a lot with a 338 Winchester Mag. I shot a lot of stuff with the 210 gr Nosler Partition and the Barnes X bullets. I have not found either bullet to be lacking in the game fields. I shoot a Sako 75 SS its a heavier gun. Mine loads out at around 9.5 lbs. I have shot a lot of moose with it when I lived in Alaska. Next Year its going to go to Africa for Plains game hunt. Its a hunters cartridge. Damn accurate too. I do load 300 grain Woodleighs I shot that load on a Roosevelt Elk hunt in heavy timber. I would use the same load for Forrest Buffalo up in Brithish Colombia if I ever had the notion. Those things are huge Cape Eland sized

I live and hunt in northern British Columbia. The 338 Winchester loaded with a 225 Hornady SST and reloader 19 works great on everything. Used Nosler for years but at 119.99 for 50 Acubonds I switched to Hornady and never looked back

You boys are a lot of fun, I’d empty some beers with y’all