Yep

ya

It’s not for damage but support

yea

Yup

i agree

Yeah

It can’t it’s the MVM

@@jenniferambrose5171what

Sabre using the glaive lord hurts. 60% of its normal popping power isn't being boosted by the 10x attack speed (the rotating glaives)

All of Saber's placements are cancer

@@evropeforevropeansdamn

Morgan Ellis????

😂😂😂

2 words super mines

Flying fortress

bro he missed super mines aswell

@@Davids_13525 lag mines*

Balloon master alchemist.

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As Sabre once said-"WE NEED MORE BANANA FARMS!"

Under 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 milliseconds gang

Under 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years old game 👇🏻

Noooooo, I’m 40000001 years

⁠me too😭😭😭

⁠@@_blob_UwU_@isaacCat7 I’m just better because I’m 39999999.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999990999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

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@@JVaunVeauxsybau

Me too

SHREK

AHH

NO, BOLTRIX

Tewtiy is at least gonna come 2nd boltrix will come first

Then you are *WRONG*

Damage is still way better you just need aoe attacks like bomb or mortar or pierce like the anti bloon since ALL effected bloons will take the 10x damage then they are equal

@@Tyboom-_- *affected Also damage and speed do the same DPS in that scenario. Damage does 10x damage 1 time and speed does 1x damage 10 times in the same amount of time

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Hello

Stop this

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I thought so too.

I was planning on doing a comment to mention this exact thing, but first went to look for a comment that was already mentioning it...

So There is technically no limit

Overdamage doesn't really matter as soon as you get beyond the one shot area, which means round 80. If there was no limit on Attack speed(there is a HARD coded limit due to the tick speed(no mod can change this since its a problem of the coding language)) it would still be better due to special effects. EG Bloon crush won't benefit much from 10x damage, but 10x speed made it the MVP of Saber's strat. Same with BMA

I mean, Saber could also get it. And it was barely nothing. Maybe it would have allowed saber to get a t4 that would have had him pop the first Fbad on 200, but he would have lost on the 2nd Fbad anyways

@@normalchannel2185tewity got it on round 57, it gives 1k a round, that 140k of extra money that Sabre didn’t have, and with that he’d easily win

@@PROBTD so why didn't Saber get it? Also

@@PROBTDok but sabre could have got it too and didnt thats user error

And 10x speed too

i also think a 2-5-0 sub would 1 shot most moabs,bfbs, and possibly zomgs

Ten times speed is way better than ten times attack speed but sabre is bad so it was a tie

Lag Champion*

True

BANANA SALVAGE

❤❤😂 yeh

You play gorilla tag let's go

thats what im saying

at first i was like wait a min if tewty got like spike storm then 10* dmg would be insane

To be fair, they did remove all sources of moneymaking.

@@_Meta. ig for them that’s hard 🤣

That's true for a lot of towers, but not all of them. Most notably is the glue gunner and ice monkey. Neither can deal damage to the bloons multiple times (with caveats like refreeze and the whole DOT aspect of glue gunner), so making the single strike they get that much stronger is indeed a very powerful buff relative to the attack speed. Towers that already attack super fast or just have such short range that they can only attack one or two times per bloon will also inherently benefit more. The biggest mistake Tewtiy made was not getting pre-emptive strike, which shoots one missile at every moab-class bloon that spawns. It's already a moderately weak tower with high attack speed, but the ability is on another level of broken when buffed with 10x damage. That buff basically turns it into the Nautic Siege Core's variant of the pre-emptive strike ability.

@@benrockefeller6334 I'd also like to argue that Tewity had way more pops I believe. He was also actually able to pop the Fortified B.A.D on round 200. Sabre also only really got far because of Bloon Crush pushing back and stunning the moab-class bloons.

@@benrockefeller6334 But for 10x speed the Bloon Crush made it so that any non BAD was a non problem, and BMA would have been crazy(at the end, you don't want him early since he makes you LOSE money)

@@normalchannel2185 Non-BADs weren't really a problem in general for either side. As Tewtiy acknowledged at the end, he had the ability to wipe the bloons out after the BAD popped, but his own mismanagement of abilities made it so that he lost a fight that he otherwise had won. Don't get me wrong, bloon crush and BMA definitely benefit from 10x attack speed much more than 10x damage, but in this instance, I'm not sure that BMA would've helped, as BMA doesn't affect BADs either, and that's what killed Sabre.

@benrockefeller6334 overall, I think Saber mismanaged his strat. For example, Pop and Awe isn't worth buying with 10x speed.

Isab has money making towers tho

Attack speed it good but when you use that same idea that alchemist adds +1 dmg (or more), it wont work for high damage towers. Yes a dart monkey would be buffed by the extreme by that combination but a M.A.D wouldn’t get that same buff since hundreds of dmg added by one is less then a percent added dps. 10 times damage in this case also may not have been additive but literal multiplication, which then means any already powerful tower would be even more efficient then the ones that attack faster(with the exception of super monkey paths). Lad thing to mention is that the scaling of the bloons increase exponentially, which makes them move faster, but mostly effects the Moab hp, which 10 times dmg would keep up with(though the speed may cause that to be false).

I like to say Tewtiy won only because he popped the Fortified B.A.D and it was further away from the exit, but the DDTs were just too fast so they leaked.

surprised neither used avatar of wrath

Yes