11 mistakes that Aqara TRV could fix

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Aqara has released a new Thermostatic Radiator Valve, and left me asking more questions about my DIY Smart Heating than I would like. With ZigBee 3.0 and Matter support is that the TRV we all should be using?
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00:22 - 11 mistakes were made
00:45 - other TRVs
01:20 - Aqara TRV features and unboxing
03:22 - Aqara TRV pairing tips
04:44 - Aqara TRV internal and external reference sensor
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@kirikset 7 ай бұрын

Does this valve only turn on 100% heating and 0% or does this valve also open the valve halfway while tracking the setpoint?

@EsotericArctos Жыл бұрын

There are so many TRV's out there. We don't really have Hydronic heating in Australia, but it seems popular enough to have lots of different options around. My personal preference for battery devices is either Zigbee or Z-Wave, but Shelly has really come a long way with WiFi options that are battery.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

I used to think this would be posh... but with prices set to be insane, you'd be silly not to invest and bring the bills down now. Tough times

@2377shortie 4 ай бұрын

How long on average does it take to calibrate? I have hive trvs currently and they can take 4 hours to calibrate and rhe heating had to be on when you don't this. Sometimes they also don't calibrate so you have to go through it all again. Other times it will calibrate and a few weeks later uncalibrate and you have to go through it all again.

@stefanstoica4747 Жыл бұрын

Hi Mat, thank you for the video! What do you mean by lack of converter when you talk about z2m in Home Assistant?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Converter tell z2m how to talk to the device

@BlazshoNikolov Жыл бұрын

3 time periods are more than enough and that's why. Considering the time needed for a room to coll of or warm (what will be 30 to 50 mins) i think that they got that right. Thank you for the video.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

It's all depends on how we use the heating I think. Modern heating systems in apartments can actually heat up a room in about 15 min or less. My last flat took about 3 min for the radiator to be hot to the touch

@geekytraveler5899 8 ай бұрын

meh... I'd need 4. usually it's morning and evening when I need heating. And I don't need heating during the day while at work and during the night, while sleeping

@viktorbilek9454 7 ай бұрын

@@geekytraveler5899 It is a completely useless product with only 3 time windows. I don't understand the author's thinking, it confuses me and I am strongly considering replacing it with some other radiator thermostat. And I've had it installed for an hour and it's already managed to disappoint me like this.

@ronm6585 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mat.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Pleasure is mine

@Mr_Shote Жыл бұрын

Hi thanks for your video could you help me with this issuing i am facing i plan on purchasing aqara thermostat and google nest. my problem here, do i purchase the nest temp sensor or the aqara temp sensor, which one would recommend?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Bear in mind that I haven't used the nest stuff so my advice is a bit blind. Going ZigBee enables you to switch over later while locking into nest will leave you .. well limited. Personally I'd use awara given a choice

@AA-dg4oo Жыл бұрын

What is the mount/adapter name? I got a few Aqara TRVs for my underfloor heating system but the problem is they don’t fit next to each other on the pipes manifold. Wonder maybe the adapter is the key 🤔

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

This is just standard valve I picked up from my local hardware store, used no adapters for this thread

@chrisrosenkreuz23 Жыл бұрын

how does it detect the open window? when it senses a sudden drop in temperature probably? that would be nice!

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

That's how the open window detection works. It looks at the recent temps and calculates the drop range. If that crosses the threshold set it assumes the drop is caused by an open window

@tarkanmercan9918 Жыл бұрын

Hello..I wanna ask you a question ..After setting the parametres with wifi what happens if wifi cut of after setting the vakues? Will it keep on working with the setting (which set before) without internet? For example does the schudele programme works without internet ? Thanks..

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Schedule and currently applied settings are stored on the TRV. The automation policies are usually stored in the cloud so they won't apply over the internet loss

@JakubKosik Жыл бұрын

Hi Mat, great video. So would you still recommend going with MoesHouse ZigBee3.0 TRV Tuya New Radiator Actuator Valve or (almost double price) expensive Aqara? I am planning to use it with HA and Z2MQTT. Thanks for reply

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Before I answer this I want to make sure it works better than Moes in Z2M. From physical properties, I found Aqara to be easier to read.

@JakubKosik Жыл бұрын

Hi do you have sim update, if it’s better Aqara then Moes BRT-100 TRV ?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

The advantage of aqara one is the fact that I can control the valve value directly with Moes I need to use setpoint values to force on /off position

@TheRealWurstCase Жыл бұрын

Does it actually stop at a specific position (e.g. 75%) or does ist keep turning the valves on and off if it can't keep the temperature constant ?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

It will close the valve when setpoint is reached and open again if too much heat dissipate.

@meuk6929 Жыл бұрын

Great video Mat Apologies for mentioning this. I found it a little distracting watching your eyes read the script to the right. I understand its a whole load if info and its the most efficient way of portraying it but have you thought of using a autocue app on a tablet set behind the camera? it would make the viewer feel your talking to them. Great review of the tech love the channel. Keep up the great work!!!!

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

I actually don't read the scrip. External monitor sometimes gets stop much attention from me.

@christopheberton3302 Жыл бұрын

Can you force a low max temp? No trv has that feature. Very usefull in rentalhomes.

@pl0nk0r Жыл бұрын

You could add an automation to your home automation software to set the temp to X if manually set to over X, i believe the aquara mobile app allows IF THIS THEN which could probably do the same thing?

@TheHellis Жыл бұрын

2:48 Mine are also quiet when used in the hand. Hook it on to a radiator and every little sound is multiplied by the radiator and it sounds like six cats being strangled to death.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Should I use that as the official scale of loudness?

@TheHellis Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech That is what the manual says it should sound as, so clearly it is the official scale 🙂

@tgfedi Жыл бұрын

Hello, Can you recommend a smart boiler thermostat that supports both OphenTherm protocol and Samsung SmartThings? Thank you!

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Sadly, I haven't come across one

@tgfedi Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech I just got an answer from Honey W and they say the T6R is now SmartThings compatible (and supported OpenTherm). Do you think it's a good thermostat?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

@@tgfedi as I havent used it myself.. hard to give a meaningful opinion

@imuluer Жыл бұрын

It says abnormal reading . When i set it 24-25 degress thermostat is a bit loosely like it moves the head . Is it cuz of this or is it normal ?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Sounds like your adapter isn't well fitted. It should be attached firmly in both on and off position - then run calibration again

@FE59FE59 Жыл бұрын

Hi I can't seem to find your 10 other smart TRV reviews, could you point me to those videos? Best regards from Luxembourg.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

10 smart temp sensors

@hagar2025 Жыл бұрын

How do these work in combination with a central thermostat?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Technically, they don't. All automation must be set up in automation panel. It would look like: If thermostat is at 21C set bedroom to 18C etc.

@KimHEF Жыл бұрын

Does the valve close completely for you in „off“ Mode?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

You calibrate it first so it can detect the full range of motion.

@chuxxsss Жыл бұрын

Afternoon mate.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Hello!

@girafpatter83 Жыл бұрын

i got one + a the aqara hub and a temp. sensor mounted 4 meters away from radiator to the wall wall.. it keeps the room temp good, but its REALLY noicy!! when it goes a little bit under the set temp it opens fully up until the set temp is reached and closes again.. its not directly the trv that is "noicy" but the water running in the pipes when trv goes FULL open and closes again, is there not a soft mode where it runs more smooth? my old Danfoss eco2 with bluetooth never did this.. an i doing something wrong in the settings ? love your channel by the way 🙂

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

If you can hear water flow, chances are you have air in the stystem. Any cold spots on your radiator near the top?

@girafpatter83 Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech no its hot from bottem to the top. ;-) none of my other 7 radiators with old thermostats is noicy :-) the noicy part is when it opens fully up and then fully closes again. It does this over and over to adjust the temperature 🌡️ Nothing in between like a normal trv 😢

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Have you calibrated it? That would also cause the TRV to open in a binary way without allowing for an incremental change.

@girafpatter83 Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech yes yes tryed that a couple of times. Don't think there's anything other to do, than wait for a firmware and see if that works. For now I'm a bit desipointed. Let's see if a firmware update can solve that, i unmounted it from the bedroom and mounted the oldschool back it's simply too noisy🎶 to sleep from. Glad I didn't buy more than 1 🥳

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Are you able to press the pin down of your valve with a finger? Resistance from the valve could be a contributing factor. When new they are butter smooth and easy to actuate

@raresvintea1 10 ай бұрын

Moes or Aqara? Probably i want to intergrate in HA? What is the best in your oppion?

@notenoughtech 10 ай бұрын

Wait till September I have something on my hands which I can't talk about yet :)

@bogdancatrinoiu2651 9 ай бұрын

@@notenoughtech are you going to post it soon?

@ArusHear Жыл бұрын

Hello, Can You compare Aqara with this Tuya GS361A-H04, it's look identical.. and have other clone. Please disassembly and compare board and zigbee chip :)

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

It's often the case where these devices are made by 3rd party and only branding is different. If it looks identical, it will be inside as well.

@TheLastFrame_ Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech if you think the insides are identical. What are the differences? Do you think there's a different firmware on it? Which may makes it the better option?

@clipsonplextorfield3230 Жыл бұрын

Smart all good but when you renovate or buy a new central heating unit you might look at what your buying and save a double kost later on. Example Bosch EasyControl CT200 can be included with your Bosh unit and from then on your only heating the room your in and say goodby to dump thermostat that needs to be heating the main room (where the main is) to be able to heat for example your hobby room. Ofcourse the thermostat valves for your heater are expensive but your not buying it for 1 day. HEATING more rooms than needed is a NOGO these days, so even if your thermostat at the radiator is automated but it can only function when your main thermostat is active IS A DUMP system EACH radiator thermostat needs to be able to activate your central heating unit if not DO NOT BUY A DUMP SYSTEM

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

I would definitely install something that comes with support for external relay or something similar. I hate then the manufacturers lock off your options.

@SuperKherlen Жыл бұрын

What's the highest temperature it can be set to?

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

30C

@SuperKherlen Жыл бұрын

@@notenoughtech thanks

@healeydave 6 ай бұрын

Some Aqara devices are not competitively priced as others in my mind. If this TRV does retail for £54.99, it's going to be overpriced, when you can get the Sonoff that does everything the Aqara does for a lot less. I remember back when the Aqara Contact Sensors were great value for money and bought a few of them. They are great sensors but the last time I checked, they were dearer than the first ones I bought. As for Heating and TRV's, I had a huge investment in Tado but their proprietary communications system sucks and has range issues for people with large homes. I waited 3 years and followed a thread of many angry Tado customers over that time thinking they would fix the problem but its become clear they are not going to bother so I just ripped all the Tado out and replaced the TRV's with Sonoff. I have created a few HA automations to manage my Heating Schedule and Boost operations and I've pretty much replaced the Tado app functionality in a matter of hours. So far, it's all working well, so fingers crossed this will be the last time I swap out TRV's. Best of all, I'm selling the Tado kit for more than its costing to buy the Sonoff 🙂

@notenoughtech 6 ай бұрын

I don't think Aqara is getting more expensive. They do offer quality products often cheaper than more known to western brands. It was never inexpensive tho. I can personally attest for difference in quality and longevity of Aqara Vs less expensive brands. Budget is a consideration and I'm the first to acknowledge that. Sonoff trv is the one I would go with as well but mostly because of the budget. If money was not the concern I'd pick Aqara trv in this case

@healeydave 6 ай бұрын

@@notenoughtech At the time of writing this reply, a quick Amazon search found the Aqara TRV for £39.99 (with a 27% off promotion), normal price £54.99. I feel / hope like they are never going to be £54.99 because that's a ludicrous price in today's market. At the discounted price the Aqara is not a bad buy but it still wouldn't sway me from the £29.90 Sonoff TRV. That's like a free TRV for every three I buy. Thanks for the video though 👍

@notenoughtech 6 ай бұрын

You have to remember that Chinese marketing is vastly different to what we are used to in the west. It's all about gamifying the shopping experience etc. you almost never get the RRP. I don't like it...but it works for them in China and I guess it's a process to get the sales data to prove otherwise in the west. On their up side if you are buying for commerce... None of the promotion strategies apply and you get fixed price which is very often non negotiable

@Bluebug84 Жыл бұрын

This TRV is out there for couple years, Aquara just rebranded it nothing else.

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

I only recently have seen a copy from tuya. Not sure which one was first. But I can totally believe they would license the hardware design rather than make everything themselves. It's not w bad options if I'm honest.

@bogdancatrinoiu2651 9 ай бұрын

@@notenoughtech can you help me with the name of the tuya copy? thanks

@user-xu2pi6vx7o Жыл бұрын

TLDR, get the Shelly.

@RahulParmar1978 Жыл бұрын

Fair warning, I have the Aqara with HA and ZHA and the integration is not the best. It seems to think it's a climate control device, offering Heat and Cool states for example!

@notenoughtech Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up