1100 Watts of Structural Carnage | Hegel P30A and H30A Review

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@kenmcglown6642
@kenmcglown6642 Жыл бұрын
I had to move my system to a smaller listening room in my home. Thankfully, the smaller room was still large enough to accommodate my, hard to drive, inefficient full range speakers. Due to space restraints, I needed to downsize from separates to an integrated, so I purchased an Hegel H590 integrated. Well, the H590 was a revelation in my system!!! The H590 actually made me forget about the fact that I was no longer using separates. The H590 definite ain't cheap, but I believe that when you take price-to-performance into consideration, the H590 is probably the best integrated amp on the market. The H590 is an absolutely phenomenal piece of gear. I haven't heard Hegel's P30A and H30A new separates, but based on my experience with their H390 as well as the H590 integrated amps, I'd be willing to bet that they're world- class.
@jearley22
@jearley22 Жыл бұрын
since you have used the 390 and the 590, how would you say they compare?
@rickp6731
@rickp6731 Жыл бұрын
The Dali KORE Speakers with the Hegel P30A and two H30A Amps is one of the best systems on the market at any price 😇
@andrewforsythe7240
@andrewforsythe7240 Жыл бұрын
Ron, I'm about to watch your review but I gotta say that's a 👍 great title. Made my day. Lol. Structural Carnage. Thanks.
@HegelMusicSystem
@HegelMusicSystem Жыл бұрын
Love the video, Ron!!! Thank you so much and sorry for having to take it away.
@piker3000
@piker3000 Жыл бұрын
let me compare it to my h390 😉
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 Жыл бұрын
I love your review! A perfect modern style.
@martinmullen71
@martinmullen71 9 ай бұрын
I just love your straight to the point reviews, no bullshit to the point.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
What a work of Art 'New Age Beast Thanks Ron.
@rickcarlson5916
@rickcarlson5916 Жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you.
@richardyanicky1845
@richardyanicky1845 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.. I am looking at the Luxman amp and this sounds like a option. Safe & Sound is a great store.
@gregstevenson7401
@gregstevenson7401 Жыл бұрын
Really? Are you going as monoblocks as Hegel suggest they were designed?
@richardyanicky1845
@richardyanicky1845 Жыл бұрын
@@gregstevenson7401 I am going to look at stereo along with the Luxman. I am not sure if Safe & Sound will have a mono setup to test... I will also test with Maggies along with Magico and other hard to drive options..
@yuckysamson
@yuckysamson Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome.
@andreasmoller9798
@andreasmoller9798 Жыл бұрын
Looks impressive if you have the money, i have hegel h190 and i think its a very good amp
@jarms40
@jarms40 Жыл бұрын
So, as a devoted owner (for a couple of years now) of Magnepans (the 1.7is), I do want to clarify what NRD is saying about "hard to drive." This is a common statement about Maggies and it is not, strictly speaking, incorrect. But it IS inaccurate. ABSOLUTELY, Maggies are fussy about the power amplification they are matched with. But many, many drivers-in-box speakers are "harder to drive" than Maggies, particularly if they have large swings in impedance and go to 1 ohm or so at some points. Maggies produce a relatively stable 4 ohms through their entire curve. You can get good results from Maggies at below 100 watts (Hegel is one of the brands that does this), and you can drive Maggies well with many tube amps (albeit not flea-watt single ended triodes). To get Maggies to produce real, convincing dynamic range, though, and "be all they can be" they need CURRENT. Lots and lots of current. When the manufacturer (Magnepan) says in its literature that your amp should come close to doubling its rated wattage from 8 ohms to 4 ohms, please believe them. They're not pulling your leg. They mean it. They really, really do. There are tons of really fantastic amps out there that are great with many, many good speakers but just aren't designed to produce copious current. They're off limits if you want to feed Maggies. Sorry. Just not on the menu. Feed them right, though and they'll produce great sound. So, not "tough to drive" per se, and not a "difficult load requiring lots of wattage," per se, but definitely selective of amp paring. Only high current contenders need apply.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
Great comment
@harryquandt5856
@harryquandt5856 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. Had MG IIs way back when. Drove them with the GAS Ampzilla - match made in heaven!
@etiennedelange6428
@etiennedelange6428 Жыл бұрын
Great channel
@poetryonplastic
@poetryonplastic Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this means they’ll be releasing a P20A and H20A
@rikardekvall3433
@rikardekvall3433 Жыл бұрын
Ron.! You rock. Mega wise. Update on your studio, pls.!
@LeoRousseau
@LeoRousseau Жыл бұрын
I support this request. 🇺🇦🇺🇸🤜
@petez4608
@petez4608 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about the Hegel H95. Much lower budget than the H390. Thoughts on the H95?
@daviddowns3154
@daviddowns3154 Жыл бұрын
Careful, that part at the end makes you sound like Steve Deckert at Decware High Fidelity Engineering, "If the first watt sucks..." I've got a Zen amp on order and I can't wait to have a terrific sounding system powered by those two beautiful watts!
@djparra41
@djparra41 Жыл бұрын
I got to be completely honest with you guys. I listen to loud music and I have always listen to loud music. Starting as a preteen jamming out to 90s rock music in my bedroom to having competition subs in my SUV in my early 20s. now in my 30s I have to admit I wear hearing protection more often than I do blast music, and saying that I do like to occasionally turn up my system from time to time. I used to think that I listened to music at 100 to 105 db on rare occasions. This was until I went to a Mexican restaurant where a mariachi band decided to playing their music indoors through their concert speakers made for an open outdoor area. Take this with a grain of salt but my Apple Watch was reading 100 to 107 db. And my ears felt like they were going to burst!
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi Жыл бұрын
I wonder, how many of these is Hegel figuring their 'gonna build/sell? I'm thinkin' 100.
@dragonstone6594
@dragonstone6594 2 ай бұрын
What camera and lens are you using? The autofocus is lock on tight on the eyes!
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 9 ай бұрын
Valve preamps can sound completely neutral. Try an Audio Music preamp like the AM R-T2. There’s a widespread assumption valves add colour, but that’s not necessarily the case.
@egis7908
@egis7908 Жыл бұрын
Ron. Any chance these bad boys become a center piece of your new room. As an H390 owner they have my mouth watering. Please do an in-depth when possible.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I can’t afford anything like that. The 390 is feasible down the road but even that amp is pricey for my modest budget.
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 Жыл бұрын
Thin? Teetotal? Happy? Kind? Non-smokers? ….it’s going to bug me all day 😂
@SpirallingOut
@SpirallingOut Жыл бұрын
Sooo... Who want's a kidney? Buy me these and a set of 30.7 Maggies. Oh and pay my power bills for next half century. Kidney's yours!
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones Жыл бұрын
Lol
@jarms40
@jarms40 Жыл бұрын
Kidney, or happiness? Tough choice.
@asplmn
@asplmn Жыл бұрын
Lol if I were looking to buy rather than build an ultra high-end power amp, I'd rather buy something like the Yamaha MX-10000 for less than $10k. The engineering and aesthetics of those ultra vintage units are just *chef's kiss.*
@Corndog642
@Corndog642 Жыл бұрын
You should check out the Schiit Tyr monoblocks. I’ve read they’re very special.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Just read the forums, Tyrs are getting compared to extremely expensive monoblocksZ
@caryacadrunnerxc
@caryacadrunnerxc Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I can't find any professional reviews yet, but the forum chatter is that they are truly special. I would love to hear Ron's opinion.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
I would love and have asked a few times but Schiit has made it clear they arent sending out review units for the Tyr.
@Corndog642
@Corndog642 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 Weird. I could swear Jason from Schiit said they haven’t gotten any requests.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
@@Corndog642 that’s definitely not true.
@kaap009
@kaap009 Жыл бұрын
FYI: 1100w is in mono (Hegel website; "In its mono state it delivers a truly astounding 1100 watts in 8 ohm". It would have been fun to try out 2pcs H30A for a few weeks, to go head2head with my own dual stereo stages.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
That’s a good point
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Yep, very odd they dont share the stereo wattage rating. Bizarre in fact.
@kaap009
@kaap009 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 marketing thing. Promote the biggest and best numbers.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
@@kaap009 yep, exactly. Surprised Hegel is being like that. Its lame.
@jimdavis5230
@jimdavis5230 Жыл бұрын
In mono state do they mean bridge tied load?
@danielcarlsson615
@danielcarlsson615 Жыл бұрын
I have the h90. It’s my “only” expensive Hifi gear I own. Mabye ortofon blue. I love the sound of nothing =)
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
Another vote for a Tyr review. Why haven't you reviewed it yet?
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Schiit is not sending out Tyrs for review.
@frederf69
@frederf69 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 the mailman will need roids; heavy as Schiit 🤣🤣
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 Might be that they're building so few copies. Kind of a shame, because it's a real flagship hifi product that is as exciting as the original Yggdrasil release.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Well guys… just sent these comments over to Schiit and would you believe it, the TYR’s are headed my way. Boom! Let’s dance!
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 Good work, and amazing news. Can't wait to see the review.
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron. Any jobs going in audio hardware reviews? I need a change of career. :^D
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Ron, you missed pointing out a pertinent fact. You are great and usually on top of things. The 1100 watts rating is just in mono. No wattage ratings are provided anywhere for stereo wattage. Epitome of marketing fluff going on here.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
Into 8ohms. Can this do 4 ohms mono?
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
@@jon4715 no idea. Hegel just states 1100 into 8ohms mono. However! The Meridian Reference 857 amp is $12000 versus the 20k Hegel and does 1000 watts into 8 and 1500 watts into 4 when in mono. Plus, they give the stereo wattage specs. Its gorgeous looking, metal and glass construction.
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought it was pronounced (heygul) is it supposed to be (heegul)?
@cameronrector178
@cameronrector178 Жыл бұрын
Like Kegal😂 (key-gul)
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronrector178 lol
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
I’m probably saying it wrong
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 No worries. Thanks for the trusted reviews. Looking forward to the new listening room.
@bayard1332
@bayard1332 Жыл бұрын
I wager -lots- of the time people think they've reached the headroom of their amp what is really happening is the system is overloading the room acoustics, which is very ugly.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Very bizarre that Hegel doesnt share the stereo wattage rating on their site or even in the manual itself......
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
@@razisn you are probably about right but they should disclose that it makes no sense for them to just disclose the mono power rating
@andrewforsythe7240
@andrewforsythe7240 Жыл бұрын
1,100 Watts, for what. Great review but too pure for me, need a little colour. Hey I got Klipsch, hmm, maybe a good match, the lower powered unit at least. Thanks.
@oysteinsoreide4323
@oysteinsoreide4323 Жыл бұрын
it is 350 watts in stereo mode though. And 1100 watts when used as a mono amp.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
That is correct.
@howardmims8376
@howardmims8376 Жыл бұрын
Okay Ron time to shape your beard I feel I should send you some overalls lol
@OCDHIFiGuy
@OCDHIFiGuy Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, why don't you play it for us? No speaking can replace a listen. Will you be at CAF ? Cheers. #OCDHIfiGuy
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I actually had plans on doing sound clips with commentary but I didn’t have the gear long enough to pull it off. Maybe down the road they will let me do a longer term review so I can tackle that. - won’t be at CAF…
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mikey, how about unblocking me on KZfaq? Never once said anything vulgar or out of line on your channel. Only challenged you on a couple things and then gave you some constructive criticism yet you blocked me. I see you going back and forth with many other people. Don't know why it would be any different with me. Are you just blocking anybody that gives you a challenge? I'm being dead serious and not sarcastic in any way.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 Hey Ryan, you always give good feedback on my channel and I appreciate your commentary. I am surprised Mike would do something like that. Maybe it’s something funky with YT?
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 thanks Ron. Appreciate your kind words and what YOU do for the hifi community.
@gleamtarrest6310
@gleamtarrest6310 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting on The Benchmark Review!.
@billarmstrong5568
@billarmstrong5568 Жыл бұрын
Be nice to have a soundclip or two😁
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Agree, just didn’t have the time.
@billarmstrong5568
@billarmstrong5568 Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 Thx 4 posting, enjoyed it😉
@harryburnett7086
@harryburnett7086 Жыл бұрын
"Conductor" does not have tone controls , ik ik they shouldn't but I disagree leave a little for listener to micro adjust
@flogginga_dead_horse4022
@flogginga_dead_horse4022 Жыл бұрын
better get a pair of each
@harryburnett7086
@harryburnett7086 Жыл бұрын
Oh yea we do , I do listen to 100 db
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Hegel has major competition and it's a juggernaut. I'd go Meridian Reference 857 amp. Save yourself $8000 and get a beautiful looking world class amp. Bridgable 1000 watts into 8ohms, 1500 into 4ohms. Much better value than the Hegel.
@Ivy13276
@Ivy13276 Жыл бұрын
Hegel h95 is a bargain
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi Жыл бұрын
Yup..... I'm available for a free lunch.
@paulomontero12
@paulomontero12 Жыл бұрын
Tell Anders I went deft because of him.
@JingoLoBa57
@JingoLoBa57 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a binaural sound sample…
@mostirreverent
@mostirreverent Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised at how my threshold FET 10 improved the sound of my Adcom GFA 555 I do miss all the buttons/dials that used to be on vintage preamps
@raymondmoran2881
@raymondmoran2881 Жыл бұрын
At 1100 watts clipping should never be a problem
@Connectronix
@Connectronix Жыл бұрын
First of all, I don’t know why Ron pronounces Hegel that way. He’s like the only one I’ve heard that pronounces it that way and it drives me a little bonkers. But what drives me more bonkers is his comment about no one ever listening to Music in the triple digits over 100 dB. Seriously?! I think I listen to most of my music around 100 DB. I have tested it numerous times from the listening position with two different dB meters and have often hit 110DB. I usually see 107, 109, and the highest I think I’ve ever seen was 114 DB. I’ve taken screenshots multiple times for proof. I would have liked to have a go louder but I have fear of blowing up the speakers and doing some damage to something. On three different occasions I’ve over powered and shut down of PS Audio P10 Power Plant when I let the volume get a little up there. Yeah, it can get a little scary when you go from rocking out with music really loud to instant dead silence! Whoopsie! I’ve also cranked up the Hegel’s loud enough and have blown the fuse on a H390 as well as the H590. And a little tip that I’ve gotten from Hegel, volume 80 is it’s happy place. Although often loud, there’s no gain used at that number. Isn’t this what this hobby is all about, having fun? Like the old saying goes, “If it’s too loud, you’re too old.“
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
www.cdc.gov/nceh/hearing_loss/how_does_loud_noise_cause_hearing_loss.html
@davidbowman6319
@davidbowman6319 Жыл бұрын
The company took Its name from the philosopher Hegel. It's pronounced Hay gel.
@Shorby99EK
@Shorby99EK Жыл бұрын
Yeah Ron some of us do….
@budgethometheaterandhifi
@budgethometheaterandhifi Жыл бұрын
1100 watts means your speakers are more likely to give up before you run out of head room :)
@Plastpackad
@Plastpackad Жыл бұрын
...or I decide what the neighborhood listen to.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
And......its 1100 watts mono......not stereo.
@jon4715
@jon4715 Жыл бұрын
maggies and electrostats could soak it up
@metastaticmince2386
@metastaticmince2386 Жыл бұрын
head room is mostly misunderstood. The 1100 Hegel Watts will catapult you from your "listening"chair and I guarantee you, there is no headroom to the ceiling any longer...
@doctorbritain9632
@doctorbritain9632 Жыл бұрын
Heegel....🤔
@jarekharmening8993
@jarekharmening8993 Жыл бұрын
Was the "shake your partner's clothes off" an Italian Job reference?
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Never seen that movie but it sounds like maybe it is.
@jstoli996c4s
@jstoli996c4s Жыл бұрын
*1.21 gigawatts!!!*
@chrisvantassel8867
@chrisvantassel8867 Жыл бұрын
I wish Audiophiles would spend time in a professional studio. I think they would have a better understanding of what makes music sound good or bad. When people say things like I like my $20,000 piece of gear to have no voice, to just let the music be as it was recorded. That is such nonsense. If you spend time in a studio you understand quickly how many things color the sound and how "Coloring" the sound is a tool to Make recordings sound better. You will not find a studio engineer in the world that says a Neve 8078 sounds bad because it colors the sound, quite the contrary. The Vintage Neve's colored the crap out of the recording and all in an amazing way. Rupert had an ear like no other. You take and API or an SSL or whatever and they all have a sound signature same with Fairchild compressor or a Pultec EQ. Fast forward to hearing a recording (through one of those console's influence) then through a hi fi system. A HI Fi system simply replays what the engineer intended so how do you talk about coloring or not coloring or getting out of the way? If a piece of gear makes a shrill recording sound better then it is not translating the recording as it was intended or "getting out of the way" I think we need to accept the fact that some recordings suck, some are amazing and some are in between. If a Hi Fi system tells you that, then it is doing its job properly.
@pacificateur3630
@pacificateur3630 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Rowland and Luxman have much better build quality than Hegel which is assembled in China. A clear choice for me in this category. I
@bikdav
@bikdav Жыл бұрын
1100 watts? That is impractical.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
That's mono. Not stereo. They dont publish any stereo numbers.
@bikdav
@bikdav Жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 Whatever. To me, that's more than I'll need.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
@@bikdav my point isn't that it's not going to be enough my point is that they're barely telling any of the story. It's deceptive marketing. From a well-known hifi manufacturer it's pretty Bush League
@bikdav
@bikdav Жыл бұрын
@@ryanschipp8513 That’s a good point.
@rfoliente1
@rfoliente1 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting how your review a product and can't even properly pronounce the name of the manufacturer. Heeegel??? Cringeworthy.
@jlo8775
@jlo8775 Жыл бұрын
Such a glowing review without a reference comparison? Let’s be real, Hegel for $19K?? 🙄The PASS Labs X350.8 at $4K LESS is the hands down winner in the $20K heavyweight division. Not to mention the insane amps you can get on the secondary market for well under $20K…D'Agostino, MAC, BAT…Pffft, Hegel doesn’t stand a chance trying to play in the big boy amp category.
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