12 Gauge Mag-Fed Shotgun Pistol: SDM M870 Shorty

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Жыл бұрын

In this episode of TFBTV, ‪@JamesReeves‬ is at IWA visiting Prima Armi, the Italian distributor to see the SDM M870 Shorty, an inexpensive, short-barrel, pump action, mag-fed 12 gauge shotgun.
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@-Seeker-
@-Seeker- Жыл бұрын
I liked the salesman. When asked if the magazine is expensive, he said it is, not sugarcoating it. Not the most well prepared, but not just sugarcoating stuff to sell it.
@JC-ru1rn
@JC-ru1rn Жыл бұрын
He is probably well prepared and chances are that he speak 2 - 4 languages as well. The thing is that we can't expect everybody to speak english as their primary or secondary language.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Жыл бұрын
Ho do you came to the idea he was not prepared? Maybe its just european to be more honest and not sugarcoating things!
@MigorRortis
@MigorRortis Жыл бұрын
Beats “oh it’s affordable.” Being like 50 bucks+ a mag
@-Seeker-
@-Seeker- Жыл бұрын
@@Gieszkanne Some questions he struggled a bit, but as I said, I liked him and his honesty. Just some hiccups (honestly could be just because of speaking a foreign language).
@stonefox9124
@stonefox9124 Жыл бұрын
​@@MigorRortis 🤣 I've literally been in a argument, someone was say $2,300 was affordable.
@happyhaunter_5546
@happyhaunter_5546 Жыл бұрын
damn for $300 every person I know would have at least two of these
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
It is a killer price.2xin leg holsters instead of an MP7.
@notchipotle
@notchipotle Жыл бұрын
I'll pack this on my lunch box every day
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
@@notchipotle Who knows how the barbecue sauce affects this firearm?
@dreadnaughttactical
@dreadnaughttactical Жыл бұрын
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too. The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves. They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese. Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it. Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster. You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered. There are many videos here on KZfaq of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced. Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
@@dreadnaughttactical Thank you. What for do you find 8.5inch shot guns useful in Canada?
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 Жыл бұрын
These gun conventions in Europe are torture to us Americans, knowing that it'll take them years to make these weapons available to us, if our states don't start putting magazine restrictions and shark fins on our pistol grips by then.
@dracoseason3784
@dracoseason3784 Жыл бұрын
literally just build a mossberg 590m as a pistol and itll be better than this chinesium piece of junk
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 Жыл бұрын
Copy the concepts and make them yourself
@TFBTVShowTime
@TFBTVShowTime Жыл бұрын
There is a manufacturer in the US who will have a working prototype of this gun in 2023.
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 Жыл бұрын
@@smokingcrab2290 Not everyone on this channel is a full fledged gunsmith. A lot of us are enthusiasts of some kind.
@Nick-hm9rh
@Nick-hm9rh Жыл бұрын
now you know how it is for europeans to watch US shows lol
@radseven89
@radseven89 Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea, the main problem with those master keys was always the lack of capacity. External mag fixes that issue.
@crazysilly2914
@crazysilly2914 Жыл бұрын
Especially if you get a double stack 12. gauge box mag like what moss berg was trying a few years back...
@guerom1367
@guerom1367 Жыл бұрын
The mag tube is canceled out for the detachable mags on these type of shotguns. If they could figure out a way to carry 5 in the tube and 5 in the mag it would be revolutionary
@LoneWolf47603
@LoneWolf47603 Жыл бұрын
Already been done, look up M26 MASS
@Heisenbrick
@Heisenbrick Жыл бұрын
Small drum mag would make this great!
@beauleidig8670
@beauleidig8670 Жыл бұрын
@@Heisenbrick No, when it comes to 12 gauge you're better off with box mags. Remember, you're essentially dealing with a rimmed cartridge so loading them into a drum mag creates logistical problems with the design. It can be done, but it's far more difficult and expensive. Not to mention the fact that drum mags are just more complicated in general, and there for less reliable than box mags. Also, it's way easier and less cumbersome to carry multiple box mags on your person than drum. There's also the issue of this pistols dimensions and length which look as though it would be kind of hard to operate the pump with a drum in the middle, but I'm only guessing on that part.
@VincitOmniaVeritas7
@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Жыл бұрын
That’s the kind of gun that a 80’s movie hero would dual wield, pump action and all… 😅
@alexanderren1097
@alexanderren1097 Жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris can work both pumps simultaneously with his beard and he'll never run out of ammo
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC Жыл бұрын
💯
@d00der41
@d00der41 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I could see the 'hero' installing one of those cheesy looking D-shaped pump handles on one of them (like in From Dusk 'Til Dawn) and the 'hero' could insert the other shotgun through the handle and wield and fire them like a cross; simultaneously for a few scenes.
@crktritual
@crktritual Жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah
@Evin07
@Evin07 Жыл бұрын
Looks just like Ricardo Tubbs Serbu Super Shorty from Miami Vice
@Zantar45
@Zantar45 Жыл бұрын
Thats pretty sweet. If it's a true 870 clone I would definitely replace as many small parts as possible first.
@TheHiddenPart
@TheHiddenPart Жыл бұрын
No need to, actual cinese production is superior to Remington parts.
@TheHiddenPart
@TheHiddenPart Жыл бұрын
@kilgor5793 I would not say horrible. Peoplle both here and overseas claim it works. Main differrnces are a forged steel receiver amd some grittiness here and there. Nothing that can't be solved by use. Even the trigger housing is metal, while Remington has been using plastic for a while.
@oni_goroshi
@oni_goroshi Жыл бұрын
​@Kilgor bullshit. It's well known that the IAC Hawk\ Chinese copies are better than the newer American made 870s.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Жыл бұрын
@@TheHiddenPart The only thing I have ever heard that goes in that direction was, that the SigSauer 226 clone from Norinco had better steel quality. But this doesnt mean that the actual machining/manufacturing is better. Not at all.
@spankthemonkey3437
@spankthemonkey3437 Жыл бұрын
That 💩 will probably explode anyway🤷
@niquetha5neek645
@niquetha5neek645 Жыл бұрын
we all knows why James knows what 23cm is in inches on the fly
@scottroder5516
@scottroder5516 Жыл бұрын
2.5 cm per inch
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
25,4mm per inch. It's like ballparking meters to feet by just multiplying by three. Sure, dividing feet by three gives yards and that's one tenth shorter than a meter, but that's an extra layer of math.
@arcuz7862
@arcuz7862 Жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi Dividing feet by three gives you yards? I understand that the regard system is confusing to us civilized people, but damn.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
@@arcuz7862 300 feet = 100 yards = 90 meters.
@arcuz7862
@arcuz7862 Жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi Why not just multiply by 0.303 or by 0.909. We usually convert feet/inches to cm and yards to meters directly, our advanced nonmurican brains can do that.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 Жыл бұрын
SDM also makes 5/600€ AKs and ARs with pure chinesium quality. A friend of mines changes them every competition season because it cheaper than taking care of them and you can use corrosive ammo without feel guilty
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus Жыл бұрын
It would be even cheaper still to, you know, buy a quality AK that would last more than a couple seasons.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 Жыл бұрын
@@InvidiousIgnoramus considering that on the used market they still are around 400-450€ mark you don't loose that much, he transfers all the accessories
@RCXDerp
@RCXDerp Жыл бұрын
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Corrosive ammo is pretty freakin cheap
@TheHiddenPart
@TheHiddenPart Жыл бұрын
@@InvidiousIgnoramus we have them. We have more than you Imagine.
@lyrooo326
@lyrooo326 Жыл бұрын
That mic drop was so legit aaaaah I feel for you brother.
@tg0003bpa
@tg0003bpa Жыл бұрын
We had these norinco in Canada for years! I call them thumb blasters. They use to sell for $400, mags around 35$
@SkylorBeck
@SkylorBeck Жыл бұрын
That's crazy. Same price as a 1911 in the states.
@MigorRortis
@MigorRortis Жыл бұрын
@@SkylorBeck lmao what
@SkylorBeck
@SkylorBeck Жыл бұрын
@@MigorRortis Rock Island 1911A1 is about $400 USD.
@enzoswoodshop1052
@enzoswoodshop1052 Жыл бұрын
@@SkylorBeck that’s one of the shittiest 1911s on the market. An average 1911 is more like $800-$1500 for “normal” production 1911s.
@SkylorBeck
@SkylorBeck Жыл бұрын
@@enzoswoodshop1052 I didn't say a "good 1911". A bad gun is still a gun. All guns kill people.
@TheHiddenPart
@TheHiddenPart Жыл бұрын
I do have one. Video is on my channel. The spokesperson for Prima Armi doesn't know or care but mags and inteenals are interchangeable with Hawk clones and Canadian Grizzly models. They're literally the same product and readily available. Quality wise, the base model with side folding stock and 18" barrel has been spotted in chinese police hands during lockdown. Shooting it is a handful. Swapping the 80s era pistol grip for a Birdshead grip such as a Raptor deletes half the felt recoil, yet you got to use it ANGRILY. It's a man's gun. And it breathes THUNDER and FIRE. If being given the choice I'd gone for a Serbu Super Shorty replica, the box mag is just silly.
@MolanLabe78
@MolanLabe78 Жыл бұрын
Super happy they have that adjustable rear sight. You never know when you may need to rain down on that 300 yarder!
@mastodon24
@mastodon24 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service
@iansanchez331
@iansanchez331 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get a drop leg holster for it
@leemosby7939
@leemosby7939 Жыл бұрын
asking the right questions, right on man!
@jord6658
@jord6658 Жыл бұрын
Oh James is just effing drooling on this thing, you know he wants to run 500 rounds of the heaviest buck shot through it in under 30 min. Why do you think he asked about the mags?? 😂😂 .
@rafa980543375
@rafa980543375 Жыл бұрын
In Austria pump guns are not allowed either. That often makes me sad as a citizen of Austria , but semi-automatics are allowed. Life is good
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT Жыл бұрын
Not only is it a pump action, but it's also way too short for Austria. 😭
@rafa980543375
@rafa980543375 Жыл бұрын
@@ShootAUT So true.
@marktrujillo2150
@marktrujillo2150 Жыл бұрын
This weapon in 20 guage would be more manageable and still be good home defense in a buckshot load . might even give you 1-2 more rds in the magazine .plus it would be a good snake charmer in rattle snake country
@aries4378
@aries4378 Жыл бұрын
This would make a great Mother's Day present.
@lookis4879
@lookis4879 Жыл бұрын
About time someone did this
@billrowan1957
@billrowan1957 Жыл бұрын
The mic drop was pure gold!!!! 🤙
@jeremiahcherry5283
@jeremiahcherry5283 Жыл бұрын
Master Key Material right there!
@KamikazKid
@KamikazKid Жыл бұрын
Mossberg better write this down for a new 590 variant.
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 Жыл бұрын
This adds a whole new dimension to the declaration..."SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!"
@ajrey8457
@ajrey8457 Жыл бұрын
looks like a good solid breaching shotgun
@PcitySkee
@PcitySkee Жыл бұрын
The kickback gotta be insane , it’s 🔥tho
@smokeymoe842
@smokeymoe842 Жыл бұрын
That's sick af
@cooter1352
@cooter1352 Жыл бұрын
I had a Laramie brand pump squirt gun just like this in the late 80's. Well not just like it, it had a wicked neon green and orange paint job.
@molon_labe_nc9390
@molon_labe_nc9390 Жыл бұрын
Now that lil beauty looks like a ton of fun 👍🏼
@UrzuaTroskenia0369
@UrzuaTroskenia0369 Жыл бұрын
That clip fed shotgun is why I told a dude on Honest Outlaws channel why I would make a triple barrel shotgun a sawed off, today a brand new gun is quite expensive, a decade it could be cheaper or discontinued, but in all certainty a new model "future" weapon will render old model's outdated.
@warblerblue
@warblerblue Жыл бұрын
I would buy in a heartbeat!
@AdamBig16
@AdamBig16 Жыл бұрын
9” that’s massive absolutely way longer then anything anyone could ever have or need a average 3-4” is more then enough for anyone to handle honestly that’s even to much length
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Жыл бұрын
I've heard the exact same... Undeniable FACTS 💯 😁
@BM205
@BM205 Жыл бұрын
Well ya can always hold it an only use a few inches
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 Жыл бұрын
But you'll still get made fun of if you have less than 9"
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
A great interesting video and shotgun.This shorty is great for tucking in a shorts along with some eggs and noodles and olive oil.
@fraydorackaz472
@fraydorackaz472 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@KalanYore
@KalanYore Жыл бұрын
That would be perfect for a car/truck/home shotgun... I'm happy w/ my Rock Island shotgun mag fed w/ ghost sights...
@somnolentSlumber
@somnolentSlumber Жыл бұрын
>chinesium -5 >proprietary mags -1 >no higher capacity mags, 5rds is all you get -1 >each mag costs $60 -10 who is this marketed towards
@crispy_338
@crispy_338 Жыл бұрын
Euro police
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB Жыл бұрын
as a compact breacher for police and for home defense for citizens as its considered a pistol and thus easier to get
@FrauleinMuller999
@FrauleinMuller999 Жыл бұрын
Recreational shooters
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 Жыл бұрын
Muricans
@meklu
@meklu Жыл бұрын
@@Genesis23OPB Magnesium? Are you trying to burn the door down?
@dreadnaughttactical
@dreadnaughttactical Жыл бұрын
In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too. The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves. They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese. Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it. Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster. You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered. There are many videos here on KZfaq of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced. Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.
@sixtofive
@sixtofive Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@tyreejones3640
@tyreejones3640 Жыл бұрын
Shotgun handgun is crazy❤❤❤
@user-gf1gy4rc4f
@user-gf1gy4rc4f 4 ай бұрын
Sweet as hell dude
@johndelagarza361
@johndelagarza361 Жыл бұрын
Cool looking shotgun.
@T_Humphries
@T_Humphries Жыл бұрын
That mic drop was hilarious!!
@scaleworksRC
@scaleworksRC Жыл бұрын
The ultimate "get off me" ankle gun!
@fpsVAMPZ
@fpsVAMPZ Жыл бұрын
Thats sickkkk
@leticiabraun2909
@leticiabraun2909 Жыл бұрын
DAMN, that looks cool !
@rafachafa1086
@rafachafa1086 Жыл бұрын
That looks cool
@henryohenry1504
@henryohenry1504 Жыл бұрын
Love to see this with a conversion to the birds head grip. Also at this point why not make a pump from scratch that doesn't incorporate a tube you dont need with a heat shield. . .
@jordanamos102
@jordanamos102 Жыл бұрын
My wrist hurts looking at this.
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 Жыл бұрын
We need more minishells in production and we need more mags and adapters to use them. The minishells concept needs to be adopted more.
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT Жыл бұрын
SDM (basically, like Norinco, a bunch of Chinese factories distributing under one brand name) make decent stuff. Their AKs are not the prettiest, but they work, are cheap and durable. They also make that 1887 clone.
@lep38918
@lep38918 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I want three of those so bad!
@bengrimey319
@bengrimey319 Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful! I wish 🇺🇸 had these 😫
@I_am_ENSanity
@I_am_ENSanity Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to add loops on the pump so I can dual wield them!
@jeremycool7857
@jeremycool7857 Жыл бұрын
I have a long version SDM m870 and i am very satisfied. I only have it for defense. Resilience fascinates me. I need real tools 😉
@dprall
@dprall Жыл бұрын
Hurricane Butterfly brought these in to the US as the Typhoon 12. They had them as AOW or SBS. It's the Hawk Type 97-1.
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 Жыл бұрын
Demonstrated Concepts would love this.
@aidant6469
@aidant6469 Жыл бұрын
This is old hat brother. It's been out for a long assed time up here in Canada and the folks at Dlask Canada make a right badass version.. Originally called the Dominion Arms Grizzly 8.5 (A China special). Comes in a tube fed 2+1 or a mag fed 5+1.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
A great neat interesting video and shotguns Mr.James.This is not how I imagine chop sticks. Do you prefer this SDM Remington nock off or the Mossberg Nightstick?Make a video about it. Is this short shotgun made of steel or aluminum? Is it like "the kom pao chicken made of a cat?"Have a good one.
@FlemNmzzzz
@FlemNmzzzz Жыл бұрын
20+ round drum mag would make this a staple. You'd become a walking claymore carrying this thing lol.
@camachopocket2933
@camachopocket2933 Жыл бұрын
That’s a dream gun I didn’t even know existed.
@justinspringstun5836
@justinspringstun5836 Жыл бұрын
Ah James always showing us the forbidden fruit!!! Damn you speedo man James!!!! Btw everyone knows James to be a proud Speedo man.
@scubaguy007
@scubaguy007 Жыл бұрын
Looks fun. Those are a definite "pay to play" item. My buddy has a Serbu Super Shorty that's lots of fun. You'd be surprised how much fun you can have with 3 rounds. 😁
@ahomicidaltaco
@ahomicidaltaco Жыл бұрын
Their website says only 300 euros
@scubaguy007
@scubaguy007 Жыл бұрын
@@ahomicidaltaco well that's good then. 👍🏻
@NosferatuandFriends
@NosferatuandFriends Жыл бұрын
Oh no, we don't have access to sporterized chinesium knock-offs. That sucks.
@gusporterhouse
@gusporterhouse Жыл бұрын
Brothers, the bolt pistol has arrived
@azisandwich
@azisandwich Жыл бұрын
Nice
@matternst1442
@matternst1442 Жыл бұрын
I got a mossberg compact cruiser aow that’s 2+1. That’s sweet
@romeo_alpha0176
@romeo_alpha0176 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Harbor Freight will eventually get into the firearms business.
@oni_goroshi
@oni_goroshi Жыл бұрын
That would be epic!
@romeo_alpha0176
@romeo_alpha0176 Жыл бұрын
@@oni_goroshi Chicago pneumatic “typewriter”
@SmokesKwazukii
@SmokesKwazukii Жыл бұрын
i love that. box mag pump shotties dont make a ton of sense to me typically because you still have the shell tube there just doing nothing, here however that mag is holding far more than the tiny little tube ever could. sick af little shorty
@danpit2001
@danpit2001 Жыл бұрын
faster reload and weight is distributed closer to the middle
@BigNast93
@BigNast93 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a rebranded, shortened hawk 981/982 with a magazine adapter added.
@Neoprene00
@Neoprene00 Жыл бұрын
Looks spicy AF!
@markw999
@markw999 Жыл бұрын
Those sights......thanks for the giggle. LOL
@zachattack2775
@zachattack2775 Жыл бұрын
James, you are such a skillful interviewer. It’s very impressive.
@jasonweiss2773
@jasonweiss2773 Жыл бұрын
You're fucking joking right?
@zachattack2775
@zachattack2775 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonweiss2773 why do you ask?
@ksztyrix
@ksztyrix Жыл бұрын
I'm buying it. With folding stock it's going be nice little shotgun
@mossyshotgun5902
@mossyshotgun5902 Жыл бұрын
Well that sucks the interview started off good and then we find out we can't get it, great job guys...
@danpit2001
@danpit2001 Жыл бұрын
i would love one of those but purpose built for shorty shells
@stephensparks9350
@stephensparks9350 Жыл бұрын
Thats f'n cool! 🇺🇸
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster Жыл бұрын
I love it, I want it & I'll print my own extended mags
@FrauleinMuller999
@FrauleinMuller999 Жыл бұрын
The what?? I love it 😊
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 Жыл бұрын
Looks fun I would buy one.
@stevegarcia5932
@stevegarcia5932 Жыл бұрын
Just cause he was honest I’d buy it if I could 🤣
@andygreen1769
@andygreen1769 Жыл бұрын
I want to see something on that 1887 looking-a-like gun.
@daltongarrett7117
@daltongarrett7117 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome in 45/410 as a pistol.
@mobilegamersunite
@mobilegamersunite Жыл бұрын
Das looks awesome 👌 👏 👍 😍
@politeaf8065
@politeaf8065 Жыл бұрын
What a tease
@JamesDatWork
@JamesDatWork Жыл бұрын
need this in US .... perfect for home defense
@KB-lv7sw
@KB-lv7sw 7 ай бұрын
I am French and shotguns are authorized for sports shooters with and without stripes. The length of the barrel can pose problems for us, I'm not too sure about it.
@beardedslavbrew615
@beardedslavbrew615 Жыл бұрын
Kinda looks like something you get to use in Metal Mlug lol kinda cute, I'd keep one for home defense.
@Bigdaddyslasher
@Bigdaddyslasher Жыл бұрын
Ole wrist tweeter right there. If you ever shot a SBS that short in 3" mag they're not so fun LOL
@HighFalutinTootin
@HighFalutinTootin Жыл бұрын
Nice little shotty
@rolandluth2098
@rolandluth2098 Жыл бұрын
From France : pump action shotguns with a smooth bore are not harder to get than a semi auto rifle. It just takes time (6 months of practice in a shooting sport association) and paperwork to have one. The rifled bore pump action shotguns of 4+1 capacity are available for any hunter or any one who subscribed to a shooting sport association (without the papework).
@evocati6523
@evocati6523 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't need any of that nonsense to own them
@donkeykingkong1261
@donkeykingkong1261 Жыл бұрын
These gunshows outside of the US shows how "freedom" is defined
@CnnrFrench
@CnnrFrench Жыл бұрын
Ah sweet. A ruby ridge special
@CarlosLopez-iy6jr
@CarlosLopez-iy6jr Жыл бұрын
Would make as a great master key attachment on an AR/M4
@loganwhite3904
@loganwhite3904 Жыл бұрын
I'm doubtful we will see this hit Canadian shelves but I love the look and concept of it
@antiKhaos
@antiKhaos Жыл бұрын
We've had them here before under norinco grizzly name in both tube and mag fed. In 8", 14.5", 18.5". The only difference is ours used to come with full stocks and no top rail.
@karm42yn
@karm42yn Жыл бұрын
I'm out of the loop but is there barely anything that's allowed on Canadian shelves anymore?
@dillonchamberlain
@dillonchamberlain Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Canada ban all pistols…
@antiKhaos
@antiKhaos Жыл бұрын
@@dillonchamberlain Not sure if this would technically class as a pistol here. Theres this weird gap in the law where manually operated action that require two hands arent necessarily "handguns" if they come from the factory in said configuration.
@antiKhaos
@antiKhaos Жыл бұрын
@@karm42yn not much sadly, but a good deal of our current bans are via OIC (think something like an executive order) so there is still a narrow chance they could be beaten in court or just not codified into law should an election come soon and flip current government.
@dollarbillme
@dollarbillme Жыл бұрын
Didn't Ian do a review on this for Pistols of the Warlords 😂
@01eksii
@01eksii Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see it at forgotten weapons channel
@jasonweiss2773
@jasonweiss2773 Жыл бұрын
LMFAO. Rear sight aperture on a shotgun without a shoulder stock. Reminds of that video "Don't shoot it like that. I told ya, I told ya."
@swigleswagle8084
@swigleswagle8084 Жыл бұрын
I thought Turkish shotguns put fear in me then now you bring us to Chinese shotguns. I think I’m going to rock myself to sleep tonight
@DM28907
@DM28907 Жыл бұрын
You should go over there and do a review of that gun.
@ryebread8704
@ryebread8704 Жыл бұрын
Those gunsmiths were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
@socialmedia5534
@socialmedia5534 Жыл бұрын
Gun engineers
@CyranofromBergerac
@CyranofromBergerac Жыл бұрын
​@@socialmedia5534 Gun engineers don't think about what they're creating. They get an idea and make it. Leave the legislation to everyone else.
@jozefhorvat3625
@jozefhorvat3625 2 ай бұрын
Excellent 👍👍👍💪💪💪
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