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13 Talking About Narrative: Using Dracula to Discuss Multiple Readings and Narrative Meaning

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A Critical Dragon

A Critical Dragon

Күн бұрын

Episode 13 of a series talking about aspects of narrative.
When we discuss 'appreciating literature' quite often it is delving into multiple 'readings', that is, different ways of understanding the text and drawing different meanings, inferences, and themes from it.
This video uses Bram Stoker's Dracula as a way to illustrate how we do this, and why it can be useful to gain a greater understanding and create a more engaging reading experience.
For those interested in the Anglo-Irish reading of Dracula, there has been a lot of research into this particular aspect in the last 20 years, and Joseph Valente has a really interesting book on it (Dracula's Crypt: Bram Stoker, Irishness, and the Question of Blood), but Bruce Stewart (who taught me at the University of Ulster) was the major influence on why I started reading Dracula in this way.
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@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this look at multiple interpretations of an iconic story. Excellent job explaining the relevance of gender, sexuality, and othering. Most fascinating for me is learning about the Irish perspective, and I doubt most people today are aware of Stoker’s origins. Fantastic video - thank you!
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I am always surprised that people don't know that Stoker is Irish. Genuinely baffled, really.
@giannimanzano9266
@giannimanzano9266 2 жыл бұрын
I found the Irish ☘️ perspective fascinating and illuminating as well.
@LusipherPE
@LusipherPE 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly true about people not being aware that Stoker was Irish. I knew he was, but had never really considered how that informed Dracula until A.P. mentioned it in a recent video
@hanspeter4845
@hanspeter4845 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care if you're overreading or not. I just love it when you dissect narratives. There is so much more beneath the surface that I would often miss without. Such as the importance of Stoker’s origins and therefore the Irish perspective.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, thank you very much. Understanding who Stoker was lends a great deal of perspective to aspects of the text that are frequently misattributed to other factors. So it is a fun exercise.
@Paul_van_Doleweerd
@Paul_van_Doleweerd 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday today to Bram Stoker..
@whisperphoenix19
@whisperphoenix19 2 жыл бұрын
I simply LOVED this video. This brings me back to my uni days when we would look at different readings of well known literary works. There is so much you can draw from a novel/novella/poem than just the basic plot. The "Irish" view on the whole stroy was fascinating (and the fact that Mina is "woman"!). We are often just focused on the first layer below the plot that we forget to dig deeper. And if you ever start offering online courses - I'll be the first to sign up... I miss thinking and talking about books in a comp.lit. way :)
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lukre, I am very glad that you enjoyed it. As to online courses, as much as I miss teaching, I really don't have the time to do them. This channel is the best that I can manage at the minute. Thank you so much for watching.
@josephcarrel7202
@josephcarrel7202 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished Carmilla and started Dracula today. Can't wait to see you what I get out of it.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
@waltermanson999
@waltermanson999 2 жыл бұрын
Great critique ! Your passion is palpable !
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Walter. I am glad that you enjoyed it.
@derrisreaditbefore
@derrisreaditbefore 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, and here I was thinking I 'got' a lot of the subtext of Dracula! Well, now I know a lot more, and my mental list of cues to keep in mind when reading something, grows ever longer :) Thanks!
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Dracula is such a rich and interesting text. There are so many undercurrents running through it.
@zuberas
@zuberas 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video (as always!) I've always read Dracula coming for Mina as a result (a sort of punishment) for Mina trying to "overreach" and ask to hunt Dracula alongside the male characters, breaking gender norms somewhat like Lucy. But ironically, it's precisely because they didn't let her go with them, saying it was not a place for women, that she stayed at home alone (and very upset) and became vulnerable. Anyway, excellent video, I learned a lot from it, especially regarding the Irish take.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rodrigo, Thanks for watching. As I was saying in the video, we can look at things from that surface level of narrative events, then we can look a little deeper at the social politics of the Victorian age and the various anxieties about the place of women, and then we can look even further about other symbolic or metaphorical links. So we have all these different ways we an think about 'why' the event happens and what it 'means'.
@Gascon12
@Gascon12 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic lecture! Welcome to Canavan College. Thank you AP!
@vinodhchincholi3698
@vinodhchincholi3698 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I could see how much you enjoyed decoding the novel in your eyes and the grins
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. thank you for watching. I do enjoy work that does something interesting with writing.
@robpaul7544
@robpaul7544 2 жыл бұрын
It's always fascinating diving deeper into this stuff - you've talked briefly about Dracula and the Irish perspective before, but this was well worth a separate video. Will have fun rereading the book with this mind! Thanks 😊
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, I am glad that you enjoyed it. I didn't even get to half of the stuff that you can see in the story. There is some great scholarship on the Anglo-Irish reading, as well as the other different ways to interpret Dracula.
@sethulakovic3722
@sethulakovic3722 2 жыл бұрын
Hi AP. I particularly enjoyed the discussion of Stoker's outsider status as Irish in England. It is a reading I had never considered before. You have inspired me to to pick the novel up again and look at it from a different angle. Thanks for this. Have a great day.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth, I am glad to hear it. I hope that things are at least a bit better this week. Take care of yourself.
@sethulakovic3722
@sethulakovic3722 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon I'm keeping busy. Thanks for thinking about me. I appreciate it. I really enjoyed your Dune film discussion with Philip. I floated the idea to Philip of a discussion of Mad Max Fury Road between the two of you. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on it.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Fury Road. I thought it was excellent, and I was surprised that I enjoyed what was essentially a long car chase film so thoroughly.
@ravenbellebooks5665
@ravenbellebooks5665 2 жыл бұрын
I love these discussions! I want to read Dracula, but I consistently put it off for more modern things, haha!
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Dracula is only a short book, you would blaze through it in no time. Go on... you know you want to. 😉
@captainbritain7379
@captainbritain7379 2 жыл бұрын
31:12 You nearly avoided it, but not quite. The Librarian won’t be happy! Better have some bananas ready for an apology.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
In my defence, the Irish were called both monkeys and apes based on that misunderstanding of Darwin. I stand by the comment. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jeroenadmiraal8714
@jeroenadmiraal8714 2 жыл бұрын
Oh AP! Two days ago I had to choose between Dracula and Frankenstein for my next book, and I chose Frankenstein! I'll save your video for later this year once I've read Stoker's book.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Curses, foiled again. I look forward to your thoughts when you get around to reading Dracula.
@captainbritain7379
@captainbritain7379 2 жыл бұрын
Frankenstein is a fantastic book though (imo it’s better), so arguably you did make the right choice. I hope you enjoy both!
@jeroenadmiraal8714
@jeroenadmiraal8714 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainbritain7379 I'm a third into it and enjoying it quite a bit!
@shulcit
@shulcit 2 жыл бұрын
This is next level dissection. I wonder how can an avegrage reader extract such information by re-reading books? An I suppose not every book has profound meanings, some are just straight forward stories. I get a lot of value from listening to your opinions, thank you! Hope you get some satisfaction from these pleased masses in the comments 😀
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alen, One of the great things is that every reader can learn to do this and to pick up this kind of information. It is just a different way of reading and thinking about narrative. All it takes is practice and having an idea of what you are looking for. I am glad that you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
@JayKay-wi2wc
@JayKay-wi2wc 2 жыл бұрын
An entertaining and informative video as always AP.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I am very glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
@giannimanzano9266
@giannimanzano9266 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I enjoyed this very much especially because I just finished reading Dracula this month. I wish you were my professor growing up or teaching courses over here in the states. But, I am grateful for the next best thing and it is this channel.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, thanks for watching, and for the very kind words. I hope that I continue to make videos that interest you.
@LusipherPE
@LusipherPE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this wonderful video! I liked getting the Victorian England context, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that the Irish context is what really drew me in. I think the first, and only, time I read Dracula was 25+yrs ago, and I largely considered it in relation to the AD&D version of vampires. I think I knew Stoker was Irish at that point, but my interest in Irish history was still new, shallow, and a bit constrained by being a teenager with little spending money. I knew my great grandparents left Ireland around the revolutionary period, I knew about the Famine, the Troubles were still in the papers (even in America), and the forthcoming Michael Collins movie had also inspired me to read some books from that era. All of which is to say that I knew nothing, nevermind how Stoker's nationality might have informed his writing of Dracula. I've come to know a bit more in the intervening years, so when you first mentioned reading Dracula from an Anglo-Irish perspective, I thought about Abhartach and then considered what Stoker's experience of the immediate aftermath of the Famine might have been like, and how that might have influenced him. Needless to say, you brought up a lot more than I thought about. It's a small part, but even casting Mina as mna and then connecting her full name to William of Orange is really interesting. I really enjoyed the connection you make about Dracula personifying both the 'beastly' Irish and the 'bloodsucking' British Empire. For good and ill, that really is the case, isn't it? Whether through occupation, countless Irishmen serving in the British armed forces, or countless more leaving Ireland due to varying circumstances, you could certainly argue that the British Empire did drain the lifeblood of Ireland. I also had to reconsider when Dracula was released. As you point out, the last few decades of the 19th century was a kettle waiting to boil over as far as Irish-English relations went, what with the numerous iterations of Home Rule, Parnell and the Land League, and the rise of the IRB/Fenians. It only makes sense that some of those tensions may have made their way into his writing, but I never made that connection. I wonder if they show up in any of Stoker's other works? I think a final interesting note about Stoker, and something I didn't know until after watching your video, is that he was Protestant. While a simplistic view of part of the tensions present in modern Irish history is to look at it as Catholics vs Protestants, I think it's important to acknowledge that it's much more complicated than that. As ever, people hold many complex and even contradictory social and political views. Case in point, Stoker is said to have been an advocate for Home Rule, but still believed Ireland should remain a part of the British Empire. Anyway, thanks for sharing your insights in another interesting video. Sorry for 2 lengthy/rambly comments in as many days, on 2 different videos One last thing: I never, in a million years, thought I'd see taking the soup linked to Dracula!
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brilliant post. The Anglo-Irish aspects of the novel are far more than I covered in the video, it is such a brilliant lens through which to start viewing the book, the characters, and the events. Stoker's Protestantism but still pro-Home Rule is another part of that tension inherent in the colonial/colonised, as well as the complicated depiction of religion in the novel. It is not a simple and easy dynamic to unpick, and as you say, complex and even contradictory in places. As a child, Stoker's parents fled by carriage (with Stoker) to Ballyshannon due to a cholera outbreak, sneaking into the town. So even the flight by carriage, the sickness stalking the land, the fear of the 'villagers' and so on tie in to aspects of his life. This is partly why I find this lens such an interesting approach to the novel.
@LusipherPE
@LusipherPE 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon too true on the tensions. I can't recall the depictions of religion in the novel too clearly and now, thanks to this video, I feel the need to re-read Dracula. Which is a problem because I also want to re-read the Dune series. Coupled with other things I'm in the process of reading, my tbr pile is piling up quickly. Perhaps looking into the work of the people you mentioned in the description will have to suffice for now. Coincidentally enough, I recently saw a 1920s print of Dracula at a secondhand bookstore. Maybe if it's not too expensive... That's really interesting re: the Stoker family's flight from cholera. I thought I had heard of cholera having some influence on Dracula somewhere along the line, but chalked it up to an urban legend
@angiethebookaholic
@angiethebookaholic 2 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, AP. I just bought Dracula but didn't add it ony Nov tbr. I am for sure reading it in December..love your videos.Keep 'em coming. 💜😊
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think of Dracula when you read it. I will be interested to hear your opinion.
@angiethebookaholic
@angiethebookaholic 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon I will , for sure, AP. Really loved the last interpretation using the Anglo-Irish conflict.
@EricMcLuen
@EricMcLuen 2 жыл бұрын
The author might be dead but doesn't mean we can't read the obituary. Haven't read Dracula but I think I have a copy around here somewhere... But it is interesting to hear about authors hiding in plain sight societal commentary in a horror story or other 'less serious' medium.
@Paul_van_Doleweerd
@Paul_van_Doleweerd 2 жыл бұрын
*cough* Terry Pratchett *cough*
@mattbennett3589
@mattbennett3589 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these. Makes me feel like I’m attending a university lecture at almost 41 years old. Early 20s me did not finish college because, well, I was a dumb young man. Older, much more “mature” me appreciates this kind of stuff so much.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry that I made it feel like a lecture, I was aiming for a fun discussion... I think I might need to recalibrate my sense of fun. I am glad that you found it interesting though. Thanks for watching.
@anaaneiros5502
@anaaneiros5502 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon would you be happier if we called it a fun lecture? I love them, however you call them. I must confess that a few of these interpretations made my enjoyment of the book decrease when I read it, a long time ago. Back then I was very young and very opinionated, and the portrait of women's attitudes and social roles as well as the representation of foreigners (I'm Spanish and felt... addressed?) made me mad, although I tried not to assess books from today's perspective. I'll have to re-read it now that my skills (and temper) have improved, and knowing more about the author. I always knew he was Irish but, shame on me, I didn't think of the impact of that on his work.
@mattbennett3589
@mattbennett3589 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I used lecture in the wrong way, but I meant it in the most positive sense. Bring on even more fun discussions.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ana, I am really happy that people enjoy these. A great thing about literature is that there is no one way to read the text, and there is nothing wrong with not enjoying a book. It can be fascinating to read a book at a different stage of life, though. Sometimes we see things in stories when we are older that we missed when we were younger and it can lead to enjoying and understanding a book a lot more deeply... or not, as the case may be.
@anaaneiros5502
@anaaneiros5502 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon don't get me wrong, I did enjoy it from a literary perspective, let's say. I thought it was brilliant. But on a personal level, it got on my nerves a bit. However, I'm not much into re-reads yet. I guess I'm scared of discovering that some of my all-time favourites are not that good. Most of my re-reads where done first in Spanish and shortly after in English. In those instances the result sometimes is not a different reading experience or a different narrative, but a totally different book. That makes me admire and acknowledge good translation work.
@LusipherPE
@LusipherPE 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I can't wait to watch this later! And thanks so much for including the Anglo-Irish aspect, I'll definitely be looking into the people you mentioned in the description
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much more to the Anglo-Irish reading than I covered. Bruce Stewart was such a brilliant lecturer and I wish I knew even a quarter of the stuff that he does.
@bramvandenheuvel4049
@bramvandenheuvel4049 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bram from "the birthplace of Willem van Oranje", I approve.
@bramvandenheuvel4049
@bramvandenheuvel4049 2 жыл бұрын
Though there have been various "Williams" in the Dutch royal family, usually when we refer to "Willem van Oranje", we mean the first one, who was from Nassau, in Germany. The William you're thinking of, we call Stadhouder Willem III.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
That I did not know. Very interesting. Thank you so much.
@EricMcLuen
@EricMcLuen 2 жыл бұрын
To cross pollinate books I never made the connection of the Orange Catholic Bible in Dune until it was pointed out much later.
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@EricMcLuen you can imagine why that one was a bit more obvious to me when I read it.
@bramvandenheuvel4049
@bramvandenheuvel4049 2 жыл бұрын
@@EricMcLuen Less obvious for me. In NL we don't really learn about the foreign adventures of our royal family. In fact, I only just recently learned that king William II was at Waterloo (on the right side no less).
@jonnos4503
@jonnos4503 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting! But I was planning to read Dracula next month. I'll skip the video, take some notes while I read and watch it after that
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I will be interested to hear your thoughts when you read Dracula then.
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Next week LeFanu's Carmilla?
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I think one classic vampire story a year is enough. I can always do Carmilla next year around Halloween. Then maybe the transition into the modern vampire with Anne Rice's Lestat. 😎
@brush2canvas849
@brush2canvas849 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon sounds like a plan.
@benjaminmolina3456
@benjaminmolina3456 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, the language thing is very interesting. A few times I`ve spoken spanish in the USA I`ve gotten the "we speak english here, not mexican". Sadly, I could not take their jobs and women. I guess experiances like this apply to the universality of great literature and Dracula in this example. Great stuff AP, keep it up. Any chances we get Carmila by Le Fanu?
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Carmilla might be next year. I can't have too many vampire discussions all at once. 😉
@benjaminmolina3456
@benjaminmolina3456 2 жыл бұрын
@@ACriticalDragon thank you very much.
@Paul_van_Doleweerd
@Paul_van_Doleweerd 2 жыл бұрын
Me: AP is Irish and pale and male and just wants to suck our brains... AP: slurp, slurp Me: *drools on shirt* AP: Bat! *flutter*
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 2 жыл бұрын
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