Great video. Thanks. It reminds me of riding shotgun with my father back in the day. Before he started any descent like that he would always say, "If something goes wrong, stay with the truck, don't try to jump". He drove a lowbed with an old Kenworth, 220 Cummins and two stick 5 and 4. Slow but steady. He overheated the brakes once coming down the hill into 100 Mile House with a D8 on the back. We went through town at about 70 mph, on the horn all the way until he got it stopped at the far end. Exciting days trucking in the early '60s.
@12vNationАй бұрын
I'm really honored that people like yourself find this video useful and entertaining. I've heard a few stories about that hill. Those old manually adjusted brakes must have been terrible. I guess you could never trust them to be adjusted properly for any length of time. I've learned about them in driving school, but thankfully, I've never had to apply that knowledge. I'd hate to have to crawl under the truck in the slush and snow every time I drive these hills.
@howardkettnerАй бұрын
I know that hill well. Grew up in Williams Lake. Your dad was not the only one who overheated the brakes coming down that hill.
@bernieneufeld4297Ай бұрын
@@howardkettner Hey. Another Puddle Jumper. I too grew up and spent 20 years there. I lrft in 71 to go to school in Kamloops.
@howardkettnerАй бұрын
@@bernieneufeld4297 That's awesome. 21 years for me. I left in 76 to go to PG and sell Snap-on. My dad was senior sawmill supt. for Jacobsons. Truly small world.
@kenkrausse362426 күн бұрын
Glad you lived to tell about it
@robpeters520427 күн бұрын
Well done driver! We need more drivers like you on our roads to keep everyone safe out there. Be safe!
@bsc1463Ай бұрын
That was really interesting with you explaining the different scenarios as you came down the mountain . You made it easy to follow along and understand . Every person on the road should see this video to understand what truckers are up against when navigating these mountains , epically very heavy loads like you just did . Very very very Well Done !! Hats off to ya !
@12vNationАй бұрын
In hindsight, I could have said a lot more. Unfortunately, it was a last-minute thought to record that night. But thanks, I'm happy you enjoyed the vid.
@ernietoews207723 күн бұрын
I really appreciate the technical aspects of driving a big rig down a mountain pass. Thanks.
@hardit35922 күн бұрын
Very interesting to watch! I think i'd be a nervous wreck the first few times..
@jamesoldman302122 күн бұрын
Brother drove all his life. He got his first semi when I was 13. Have never driven one of those new-fangled Roadranger transmission that everyone knew were a fad and would never catch on in the bush! Now they have automatics! My worst experience was spinning out at 14 on a hill where I had to make a right angle turn onto a single lane bridge. You never forget that type of an experience. And this was in the days of arm-strong steering. Must be nice not having to crawl under and adjust the brakes. Became legal in 1956 and did some highway trips but most of my driving was on side roads in the central/northern interior of B.C. Thanks for the video. Shows how much times have changed.
@12vNation21 күн бұрын
Times change, but some things don't. I pound on that dash pretty hard when I make it to the top of these hills during the snowstorms , especially when I didn't have to chain up. It hurts when I watch 18-wheelers rip by while I'm losing the battle. I'm sure it was a good career in the bush.
@swishswish38628 күн бұрын
Great stuff mate… 62 plus tons negotiated beautifully and confidently👍👍👍 You Canadians have ba**s of steel when it comes to dealing with icy / snow capped mountainous roads, kudos to you… Greetings from Aus
@12vNation28 күн бұрын
Thanks, mate, now it's time to hook up 3 more trailers Aussie style!
@swishswish38628 күн бұрын
@@12vNation That's the go mate ( but even more spooky if you are running 3 up on ice / snow....and you get an extra hundred bonus points for doing this with a sludge-O-matic ).... Good that you are running a Western Star as they are a "Mans Truck" purpose built for those with nerves / ba**s of steel 👌👌👌
@dws595121 күн бұрын
70 tons according to his scale ticket
@JamieSaunders-yn9nu23 күн бұрын
Good video. Nice to how the other half makes a crust. Gives a good insight into hard it is on the road for truckies. Travel safely.
@Catayst-12321 күн бұрын
Great Video Thank You You are True Professional And Thank You For Your Service to the Industry. Take Care/Happy Shifting!
@12vNation21 күн бұрын
Great! I'm happy you can appreciate it.
@Linda2Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your video. Thankyou.
@12vNationАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Komiksulo22 күн бұрын
Lovely vid! I really appreciate it.
@frankguardian177824 күн бұрын
I thank you for your in depth detail coming down this hill. I am not a truck driver although I have driven once or twice with out this challenge. I appreciate the courage and dedication that it is required from drivers such as your self. Again thank you for this video it was enlightening informative to us common drivers.
@12vNation24 күн бұрын
Hey, np, I'm glad you found this informative and interesting.
@abrahamicbeliever50226 күн бұрын
Well done brother. Thank you for this informative video. It is very important for mediocre or no drivers out there to see and learn from So thank you so very much and for it's worth good luck with the very bad market trackers going through right now.
@12vNation26 күн бұрын
Np, I'm honored that so many fellow drivers appreciate this vid. 👌
@kenhubar9934Ай бұрын
Great training video,this is what needs to be taught to new drivers. Not just a a bit of city driving.Understanding that you need to be extra cautious first time on a hill.Thanks for making the video
@12vNationАй бұрын
Np, I'm glad you could appreciate it.
@jimhoward658429 күн бұрын
Retired log truck owner here. Definitely a long and steep hill. Highway 99 going south down toward Pemberton is a bit steeper if I remember 13% on and off for about 8 miles. Interesting video of how the automatic trans. operates. Never drove or owned one though. Retired in 2012----last truck had Jake & Retarder-----great combination but don't think is available any more. Stay safe
@12vNation29 күн бұрын
Oh yes, the Duffy Lake Road. I don't think you see many semi trucks on that road. Definitely no super b-trains. Those switches going down to Pemberton are pretty tight.
@DRodTrucking28 күн бұрын
nice video sir keep it up with the truck vlogs. subbed
@12vNation28 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@bsc1463Ай бұрын
Music very distracting while trying to listen to what your explaining at the beginning !. Otherwise great job !!
@mikesavoy886118 күн бұрын
Upsalquitch hill in New Brunswick is 11% but I’d say it’s all of 12% if not more. Great job sir
@KevinOberland26 күн бұрын
Love it , some good education for some rookies to take note of...
@kenkrausse362426 күн бұрын
Excellent training ❤❤❤ excellent
@matzrat5006Ай бұрын
Ive done that hill a few times in the winter, i never let my tractor run more than 30 k, took a while to get down. but i did get there.
@12vNationАй бұрын
Better off going slower than you need to 1000 times, than 1 time too fast.
@paulc.4211Ай бұрын
I always figured 30 min from the brake check to radium, Spring was the worst as the tourons always tossed trash out at the brake check and it was kinda sketchy doing a walk around getting ready to bolt for the cab incase of a bear attack! Thanks for the Video it did bring back memories from Steele Brothers (Continental LIme?) to Skook to the pulp mill. Once you rounded the curve by the wooden Indian you were nearly there!! Did this job in the 80's COE Freightshaker 8-v92 jakes & 18 speed! It paid the bills and fed my family!!
Good tunes playing in the background! Great driving tape if I say myself, retired truck driver here, I'm old school, automatic 🤢🤮 18 speed definitely!
@12vNationАй бұрын
Haha, yeah, those autos are like writing with crayons. Good tunes for the win.
@Sixinthefield23 күн бұрын
In Sask, the air brake applied test for a tractor/trailer combination is 4 PSI max loss in 1 minute.
@leonanderson472724 күн бұрын
i see you really understand Air Brakes and make a very good Instructor. On a hill like that, a person would really have to follow everything to a tee, like what you did, or else one Hell of a situation to live through, especially in the winter road conditions.
@12vNation24 күн бұрын
Absolutely, and there are some people who get a little too comfortable with what they're doing. When the brakes fade, there's no chance of getting them back on a hill. And no chance of gearing down without brakes. That is something a lot of drivers seem to forget, and that is terrifying.
@driftinso28 күн бұрын
Great video and camera work showing all the gauges. Were you using the Jake? I think you were in just one setting? How many settings on the Western Star? I think some drivers go in and out of the different jake settings, 1,2,3 in a long decent down a hill? As you can see, I'm not a truck driver.
@12vNation28 күн бұрын
Jake is on the maximum setting throughout the video, and there are 3 settings.
@dont9098Ай бұрын
Great job with both driving down the hill safely and with the video explaining to viewers what you were doing. If you were driving a manual would you pick a gear to come down the hill at the top and stay in that gear all the way down ? even though it would take you longer Best Wishes from Tasmania
@12vNationАй бұрын
Thanks, no, I would do exactly the same thing. Only I cover the brakes with my left foot just in case I have to scratch a gear and need to buy a few seconds without the truck running away on me.
@iBackshift27 күн бұрын
Right mint training vid. Competent negotiating. I bet you've done it enough on that hill, can do with eyes closed. This needs to be subtitled in dugaduga so they learn not to follow 10ft off your tail. I was taught, what speed you go up, the same going down. Pretty much perform the same procedures you do when i'ze hauling treelength into Thunder Bay. Keep up the good vids.
@12vNation27 күн бұрын
Thanks, honestly, I hadn't thought of making trucking related videos, but I'll give it a shot considering how much interest there is in this video. Maybe I'll make another one and pole the viewers as to what they'd like to see.
@iBackshift27 күн бұрын
@@12vNation There are almost no vids on utube of fully loaded hitting the bottom of the hill and gearing down. Ive got my own vids of hitting sistonens hill with 140 on at 100kmh, then rowing gears, ending in 4th on the way up [525 cat]. Then a WS[580 DD16] passing me while he's in 5th. But I never put them up because i have to maintain the vid strategy on my own business channel
@caryd6724 күн бұрын
I took the air brakes course in 1985, in Princeton BC. I knew the hiways well, and I knew the winters well. I passed the course, but I knew I was never doing this for a living. Became a welder instead.
@12vNation24 күн бұрын
Everybody is different, I enjoy motorcycle touring and overlanding on my vacation time. How messed up is that?? You'd think I wouldn't want to see a road on my vacations. 😅
@caryd6724 күн бұрын
@@12vNation I’m an avid motorcyclist myself. I love it more than anything. Maybe I’ll see you on the road sometime ✌🏻
@12vNation23 күн бұрын
@@caryd67 definitely! Subscribe to my channel for my upcoming videos on the TCAT Trail.
@f18tom5629 күн бұрын
great vid! throw a code reader in the diag port and clear that ckc engine light lol
@12vNation29 күн бұрын
I have a 6-person crew waiting and ready at the shop. My O/O days are behind me at the moment. Lol
@f18tom5629 күн бұрын
@@12vNation greasy side down and no bugs on your windshield bud!
@paulflak282327 күн бұрын
Glenn nice improvement running the hill with super sets, means less time prying out rocks from between the tires. Thanks for the memories running between Cochrane to Skook at night. I did it for 2yrs and the joys of having tourists decide to slow down to look at the sheep just before the tunnel at the 11% grade, well more then once my brakes were applied sending clouds of smoke out right into Radium till they cooled off. I miss the run but now with only one eye do to a lease operator's deciding to cut corners on safety, I can only make the run in my pick up now.
@12vNation27 күн бұрын
Oh man, that's a bummer. Hopefully, you got some good compensation for a career ending injury.
@Pray4Mojo113 күн бұрын
I subscribed in hopes of some more trucking videos
@12vNation13 күн бұрын
Any suggestions? I'm definitely open to filming stuff about trucking. At this point, I'd rather take requests than try to figure out what people want to see.
@GarfieldHiscock23 күн бұрын
* PSI lost over 2 minutes is the air brake standard for the leak test. Very courageous to do this in an automatic.
@NaeKid26 күн бұрын
If you haven't tried the little hill from Rossland BC down to Trail BC give it a try. Its a whole 'nother level of fun
@12vNation26 күн бұрын
I lived in Rossland for 12 years, and I know it well. It's not as long, but definitely steep.
@dpg28262 күн бұрын
Also the hill from HVC mine down into Ashcroft. That hill trucks have to pay attention going down, and going up is a grind.
@1911MikeinOregon27 күн бұрын
Nicely done... What engine ? ISX ? Having a map at the top of the mountain is a really good idea. Especially for drivers that have never run that section of highway, because it has so many changes in the grade. I drove for 40 years but only drove an automatic one time for about a month. That was enough.
@12vNation26 күн бұрын
Haha, yeah, I hate that stupid auto. That truck has a DD15 in it. The ISX has much better engine braking than the DD.
@1911MikeinOregon26 күн бұрын
@@12vNation I really like the ISX. My last truck was a 2018 KW T800 fuel tanker with a 525h.p ISX and an 18 speed. I hauled 12,000 gallons of gas and grossed 105,000 which is the max for Oregon. It ran okay when it was new, but we sent it to a guy in Idaho that worked his magic and really made that thing come alive, and the engine brake worked better too. I ran from Central Oregon to Portland five days a week, so I went across the Cascades every day. Highway 58 is the steepest pass but even that doesn't compare to what you run on that section of highway. The section of road that you were running on reminded me of when I used to haul logs LOL...
@dws595121 күн бұрын
@@1911MikeinOregon Guy in Idaho ??Adept Ape ..he has his own channel and its all Cat and other diesel engine service..full rebuilds and all.
@wanderingfido20 күн бұрын
What truck make and model is that? I don't recognize the dashboard or the hood.
@markmitchellbrown19 күн бұрын
Looks like a Western Star 4900 to me.
@12vNation19 күн бұрын
Western Star 4900.
@kc36783 күн бұрын
Im on the highways quite often, not as a truck driver but in company van. Now I know why i see trucks on fire and smoking brakes on the side of the road. What do you rate the Coquihalla at in terms of risk for a trucker. There's a pretty steep area for about 2km from one brake check stop.
@12vNation3 күн бұрын
Hills like that one and Roger's pass are extremely dangerous, mostly because they don't appear to be as bad as they are. The road is wide and fast, the hill is long, and if a truck is heavy ( 63,500 kg ) or anywhere close to that, a driver who is depending on their brakes will be in big trouble pretty fast. The Coquihalla will definitely expose a bad driver with a heavy truck. Hills like the one into Radium are much safer because they are so steep, very few drivers would actually be caught off guard while driving down a hill like that.
@Dave-0523Ай бұрын
Interesting video, it shows you have travelled this road many times, and know this hill well. This video, if for training and information purposes. You might have added engines have a higher (compression) braking capability running your rpms closer to the 'red line' [sic] zone. That is why you maintained the higher rpms. But, with transmission and rear end gear ratios being different in most trucks. Why did you place priority on gear selection over road speed. Different transmission/ rear end ratio = different rpm and/or road speed per gear.
@12vNationАй бұрын
Yes, absolutely, you are right. The higher the RPM, the more effective the engine brake is. This technique will work for any gear ratio. The road speed is not a factor ( other than the posted speed limit ), which was nowhere near achievable since the engine wouldn't be able to hold the weight back in any gears that are higher than the ones I was able to upshift to. I think the fastest speed in the video was around 70kph on the 3% grade in 14th gear, or ( 6 over ). Essentially, I could not have gone down the hill any faster than that without using the brakes excessively. Using a lower gear and applying throttle would be an alternative, but then you'd be much slower getting down the hill. Simply, if the tachometer is rising, a lower gear is selected. If the tachometer is dropping, a higher gear is selected, with the target rpm being the most effective rpm for engine braking. ( just under maximum rpm )
@FrontireadventuresАй бұрын
Professional
@12vNationАй бұрын
Thanks!
@boogrrgaudry3722Ай бұрын
Going to skookumchuck mill I take it? Been there done that have the papers. Ha 👍🏻
@12vNationАй бұрын
Good times!
@jeff776425 күн бұрын
What are you hauling?
@12vNation25 күн бұрын
Wood chips for pulp and paper.
@jonburgess361422 күн бұрын
You can come down a steep hill too slow many many times. But you only come down a hill too fast once !!! Nice work driver and safe home.
@12vNation21 күн бұрын
You got that right!
@terrycormier549229 күн бұрын
Nice work true driver great work arrive alive😅😅😅
@12vNation29 күн бұрын
Thanks 😅
@donaldbrown6166Ай бұрын
No engine brake use, just gears?
@12vNationАй бұрын
I failed to mention that, but yes, maximum engine brake setting.
@frankd302429 күн бұрын
@@12vNation … ich hatte mich schon gewundert …
@stufleming386826 күн бұрын
Funny guy . I've been driving truck in Canada for 45 years and I know of a lot steeper hills in BC than that
@12vNation26 күн бұрын
Oh, really?? Do tell.
@caseybrown967323 күн бұрын
@@12vNation Heckman Pass coming into Bella Coola. Will pucker up the butthole.
@paulbowler276027 күн бұрын
What about a Jake brake?
@12vNation27 күн бұрын
On full the entire time.
@12pawsinn28 күн бұрын
Run this hill a million times. Easy run. Just take it slow,
@12vNation28 күн бұрын
Yup, that's how you survive it. Too fast, and it'll bite you.
@Gursewak17325 күн бұрын
Brother make pov truck video please
@12vNation25 күн бұрын
Do you mean shorts?
@Gursewak17323 күн бұрын
@@12vNationpov video truck vlog
@gordonmier43598 күн бұрын
The radio is super annoying
@SarahatPVMS22 күн бұрын
Turn off the radio, please !
@willharper437226 күн бұрын
That's nothing. Hiway 4 to has 18% grades to Tonino is far more challenging than what you posted. Mt. Polley in BC is more challenging. Manic 5 in Quebec is 18%
@12vNation26 күн бұрын
Are you sure it isn't 28%?
27 күн бұрын
The grades and the weather are not the dangerous things ,there are 3 factors that are the most dangerous first is the inexperienced trucker second is the inexperienced car driver third and probably the worst are the so called "super truckers" who drive way way way too fast for road conditions, causing accidents and busting everyone's windshield in the process, I drove truck for over 30 years and not once was I paid more for getting it there faster.....
@12vNation27 күн бұрын
It's easy to forget just how dangerous this hill is. You might drive it a 1000 times, but you underestimate your own skills when you see trucks that ran away and are piled in the ditches, parked up the runaway ramps, there was one guy who piled his truck into the entrance of the tunnel. I've seen guys in the creek. I missed a shift one time, I'm lucky my brakes were able to slow me down as they were cool. You get overconfident here, things can go bad really fast.
@arthurgay574618 күн бұрын
You never should have put this on you tube. Gilbeau will be coming after you for making diesel smoke !!!
@davesnodgrass467925 күн бұрын
Hi That definitely is not the steepest bloody Road in Canada by no means I hold wood chips for 10 years all over Washington Idaho California and British Columbia then I bought my own Super B decks and I threw it around North America and I can tell you where you are right now is a walk in the park you don't have to worry about your brakes if you pre-select the right gear I just put your Jake on if it's got a jake and retarder use that you don't have to use your brakes got my license for a class one when I was 16 after I had been driving logging truck a Northern Alberta for 8 months dude came from Edmonton I met him with a load of logs on and he just filled the paperwork out and I signed it that was my license and if you think that Steep and it's dangerous goat Ben Hall Trucking quad Max downloads as heavy as you are on the steepest mountains from top to bottom all over BC because those are or could be fatal and I did that with a self loader on for 4 years I'm 62 years old and I'm retired I guess everybody's got to learn I'm not knocking you because there are far too many immigrants that come here that can't even drive a Volkswagen and they're driving Highway trucks all over hell's half acre killing everybody but I'm certain your information is vital for new drivers and then saying this great video Cheers 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@12vNation25 күн бұрын
Dave, I'm sure there are steeper hills out there, somewhere, but don't be telling anyone to go down that hill on their brakes, I've seen what happens, and it's not pretty. We all do this a 1000s times, and we seem to forget that the consequences of doing it the wrong way are grave. It seems like common sense after you are experienced. I know a few good hills, too, but not in the "Canadian Rockies."" The one down to Bella Coola is pretty steep. Also, every logging road exists, but that's a whole other thing.
@TerrenceIII24 күн бұрын
Dude that's not even clost to the steepest theres 12% grades out there and theres a road to Bella Coola you have to split trains because its like 18 - 20 % For the smasher and the kootenay pass and stuff I use the brakes all the time. not to mention I didnt watch enough to see where this was but if its kootenay then thats nott the rockies anymore its the columbia mountains. source : BC born and raised and trucker.( b trains with 18 speed)
@12vNation24 күн бұрын
Yeah, I saw a logging truck up one of the ramps last year... the guy was using his brakes because his drives were losing traction on ice with the engine brake. This is steeper than Kootenay pass. Bella Coola is not in the Rockies and not even paved. Like the Duffy Lake Road, you can't even run a b train through those switches.
@TerrenceIII24 күн бұрын
Dude I see a burning or mangled truck in BC on every trip. The logger was probly pouring some whiskey into his coffee and didnt notice he was reving 2100 in 3rd gear while his truck was porpoising the volvo jakes are so overkill I go down 8% grades in 4hi with the jake on 1 and just solid use of the brake pedal . for the smasher its 4 until i can see the snowshed then 7hi till im threw the shed then 8hi till shylock where i either do that fast and go to hope fast but if i do both fast im usually smoking at the flying j as im fueling. blue haze from back trailer is low level warning, grey smoke means must reduce speed soon and white billows mean brake failure imminant.
@dws595121 күн бұрын
Yup BC hiway 93 though the park and down to Radium and the Columbia Rvr Valley one of the steepest downhill gradients in the province. And its not just the grade that is an issue, there are a lot of tight left and right bends. Both east and west slopes of the Rogers Pass have their challenges also. Kootenay Pass both west and east approaches have significant gradient over length ... Nuttin boring in haulin ass around this province. Did I miss something ...jakes applied or not ?? really quiet if they were on.
@12vNation21 күн бұрын
Oh yes, on full from the top to the bottom. Sorry I missed mentioning that in the vid.
@MegaTcarr17 күн бұрын
Thinking about getting into the industry. Living in Vancouver Canada. The problem I see is no companies train drivers like they do in the states. The pay seems low. Companies advertise at .65 cents a mile. Is it worth getting into the industry? Any advice would be appreciated. Owner operator seems to do pretty well 🤷
@12vNation16 күн бұрын
I wouldn't do owner operator myself, the headaches are too much for me. Between parts and maintenance availability and expenses, I'm not interested personally. $300 -$400/ day is enough for me. That's typical compensation where I am.
@MegaTcarr16 күн бұрын
@@12vNation Thanks for the info🙏
@b.s54723 күн бұрын
I been on this road in the middle of winter with way more snow then this with automatic truck and nothing happened , piece of cake . Don't be a drama queen lol
@12vNation22 күн бұрын
Us manual guys just can't handle that new technology, it's scary stuff. 😅
@jesstill7833Күн бұрын
Auto trans in trucks are for Nancy boys who can’t shift Roar Ranger gearbox ,,,Me being ex trucker from Australia I refused to drive or own them ,that’s my 10 cents worth cheers Nancy boys ..No malice in this message 🤐🤐😎👍🦘🇦🇺🧌
@12vNationКүн бұрын
Most of us hate automatics, but leasing companies seem to love them.