Pretty sure that Chaplains are veterans, not the same as fresh battle brothers as they are part of company command as well as techmarines and apothecaries

I remember reading that chaplains are of relatively high ranking, with every companies' chaplain's word being second to it's Captain. This is similar with Apothecaries, Tech-Marines, and Librarians, with them being being technically lower ranking than a sergeant, but also possessing authorities that match members of high ranking positions.

Recruit: Hello, I am new and I was told I should find someone who will teach me the principles of stealth here at the Ravenspire. Raven Guard Veteran: Listen kid, stick around long enough you're either going to become invisible because you're good, or invisible because you're dead. Keep stepping. Raven Guard Lieutenant: Who are you? FFS do I look like I want to lead you let alone want to wear this "please shoot me now" helmet? The dead have nothing to teach. Raven Guard Captain: Did one of my Lt.'s send you? Throne, they just do whatever they want to do... do you want to be a lieutenant? You seem useful. Kayvaan Shrike: I swear the next Black Library release that has us in it is going to have us slain to a man by Chaos Ratlings... wait, who are you? Recruit, sobbing: I... I just want to learn stealth... Kayvaan Shrike: WELL YOU'RE SUCKING AT IT NOW AINT YOU YA CRYBABY, I'D SEND YOU TO THE DEATHWATCH BUT THEY AT LEAST HAVE PLOT ARMOR Raven Guard Veteran, in hiding: _amateur_

Unless things have changed, aspirants went into the scout companies before becoming full battle brothers. Using the First Born hierarchy, they would have to serve some many years in the Assault and Devastator companies before being inducted into the Tactical companies.

This is all very dependent on chapter to chapter and while you can base this on chapters that follow the Codex Astartes, Chaplains are part of the command structure not simply fresh astartes right after augmentation. This generally goes for Librarians as well. On the table top Apothecary, Techmarine, Librarian and Chaplain are considered HQ units. Apothecary's and Techmarines generally under go more training one as a medic the other under the Mechanicum. I believe they have had their mettle tested before they are trained in those skills though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the specialty positions such as Chaplains or Apothecaries are of higher rank than a standard battle brother.

Apothecary and Chaplain are both in officer hierarchy, and even can command other brothers. Read official wiki and Lexicanum.

Chaplains are amongst the command staff of a chapter. Same for librarians/apothecaries. They’re in the same regards as veterans at a minimum

I think the main thing is knowing that there is a difference between "rank", and "role". Specialists like apothecary, techmarine, chaplain, even librarian are roles, but they can have their own rank structure separate from traditional battle brothers. And instead of reporting to an officer in one of the 10 companies in a chapter, they might report directly to higher ranks in their own structure, or "chapter command", which is where the chapter master and his honor guard are. Another thing is the idea of "veteran" being a rank, when it's more like a service record. Everyone knows that 1st company are all veteran status astartes, but it doesn't mean that there can't be veteran astartes and sergeants throughout the companies here and there. Usually a company command squad will have a few veterans, along with a champion and ancient being a veteran as well. Remember that every champion, ancient, sergeant (and other officers) are likely veterans, but not all veterans are those. It's just not a "rank" per say.

As far as my memory takes me into the past, the order of ranks for me is this! Battle Brother Corporal Sergant Lieutenant Captain Commander Marshal Primark And the battle brothers of the first are all veteran sergants who can command in the other companies And all "specialists" are basically sergeants before they are divided into individual ranks where they also have their own ranks after training and promotion e.g. Lexicanum Codifier Scriptor Magister with famous exceptions like Ragnar Blackmane a lot has changed in almost 40 years??? But I don't play anymore, I just collect and paint for my R O C Army ;)

before lieutenants were added, chaplains were the second in command of a space marine company, a demi company, which was the main way a company was organised for battle would either be lead by a chaplain or a captain. so saying they were the same rank as a bog standard marine is plain wrong... i mean theres a reason chaplains, librarians and captains are HQ units in the game and always have been and sergeants are just models with an extra point of leadership. as a huge marine fan and player for the last 25 years there was so much wrong with this video

Chaplains are no joke they hit on twos!

There were other ranks back in the day. Having played from the beginning back in the days of RT (or the book forged with the worst binding EVER) I still use those ranks.

When you order a 15 ranks in a Space Marine hierarchy off wish

Chaplains are of senior rank and frequently lead actions, e.g. Grimaldus.

iirc, apothecaries and chaplains outrank standard battle brothers. Chaplains could also be second in command if there is a captain. Im not sure though. I think techmarines also fit as these 3 are specialists in a way and apothecaries and chaplains are officers i think too.

this guy just fully made this up in his head without any actual evidence

lexicanuim and chaplain are high in the command, under lieutenants, higher than veteran-seagent

It doesn’t make sense to me to have the champions so low ranked if they are really the strongest in the chapter. No idea about the lore, just an opinion.

I was bout to say that the Primarh is also a huge part of the chapter, but we had the same Idea as you put them on 0. Great video!

I literally have a figurine from 4:57 standing on my table rn, feelsgoodman

Thank you for this videos!

I am pretty sure that chaplains are veterans who are only outranked by the company captains.

Never understood why (at least in the Horus Heresy books) companies and chapters are both lead by captains, and there seems to be no mention of Lieutenants at all. It would make more sense if companies were lead by lieutenants and chapters by captains.

I would say that the specialist branches have a rank = the 1st company, and not the line brothers. If so the librarian pilot would be with a first company private and millibrarian sergeant would be with a first company sergeant and so on. This also explains the master's position which is the same rank as the first captain. The for want of a better term staff officers of the chapter master and the captains also need to generally be bumped up a rank compared to where you put them. So a company banner bearer has equal standing to a sergeant and the company champion has equal standing to a veteran sergeant. The chapter ancient and champion have ranked equivalent to a lieutenant and a captain respectively. Other than those two sets of understanding of the rank gained by non direct chain of,nd you got it pretty good.

I always wondered this, thank you

Also Pretty sure apothecaries like chaplains have a lot more rank, and unless your a helix adept (apothecary in training), an apothecary is most definitely veterans....

The Furious Abyss was 1 of 3 massive battleships built by the dark mechanicus for Lorgar in secret for an assault of MaCragge by Admiral Zakiel of the Word Bearers at the beginning of the Heresy, these 3 battleships were larger than Gloriana class vessels and mounted a plasma cannon big enough to 1 shot a small fleet, it was the only vessel known to have torpedo bays and flight hangers.

that veteran sergeant you were showing was just a sergeant also that lieutenant is a captain in gravis armor

1:51 he got a dumpy tho

Nice job.

Ok rank and Bilet are two things rank would be battle brother bilet is a basic specialist in a field outside of a general battle brother so veteran is a title not either more of a honorifics

Chaplains Are command ranks and Apothocaries are above standard battle brothers. Also missed the rank or Reclusiarch

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Yeah now do Chaos ranking system!

“I NEED AN APOTHECARY”

You are incorrect regarding the Apothecaries, Chaplains, and Techmarines. They are classed as officers and are part of the command team of the company. "An Apothecary is a specialist Firstborn and Primaris Space Marine medicae officer who possesses advanced biomedical and scientific training and who serves as a combat medic and research physician for his Chapter."

Actual number 1: Primarch though.

what position does a dreadnaught have in the heirarchy?

i hope you cover the Imperial guards

That chaplain rank is definitely wrong. The Reclusiarch is just a leader of the chaplains. He is like what the chaptermaster is to the captains.

I have been playing 40k on and off since 1st edition, I have loved Warhammer for over a decade and I had not heard of some of these ranks

My custom Chapter has another rank of Corporal, a leader of half a squad

Technically below everyone are the normal human servants, techpriests and even below them servitors which are lobotomized cyborgs which do all the most menial work...

can I ask where does a "Force Commander" place in all this?

Keep it up.

Liutenants are the core of any marine chapter

To be fair, Apothecaries outrank EVERYONE on the battlefield.

First of all, this video is wrong from the start! Titles are divided into Ranks and Specialist Ranks. Ranks All Space Marine Chapters loosely utilize the same types of ranks. (Many non-Codex Astartes chapters, however, will often use different names for these positions): Chapter Master Captain Lieutenant Sergeant Battle-Brother Vanguard Space Marine Neophyte Graduate Specialist Ranks In addition to their standard ranks, Space Marine Chapters also maintain a variety of specialist roles: Librarian - Psyker warriors of the Chapter. Chief Librarian - The senior most Librarian of a Chapter and the commander of its Librarium. Codicier - The 2nd highest rank of Librarian Epistolary - The 3rd highest rank of Librarian Lexicanium - The rank of newly-inducted Librarians Acolytum - Librarians in training, not yet inducted into the Librarium. Chaplain - Warrior Priests of a Chapter who oversee morale, discipline, and spiritual purity. Master of Sanctity - The senior most Chaplain of a Chapter and commander of its Reclusium. Reclusiarch - Senior Chaplains Chaplain - Standard Rank Apothecary - Battlefield medical specialists charged with not only healing their comrades, but also collecting the Gene- Seed of fallen warriors. Master of the Apothecary - Senior most Apothecary and commander of their Chapter's Apothecary. Apothecary - Standard Rank Techmarine - Technology officers and engineers of a Chapter who maintain the Armory. Master of the Forge - Most senior rank who commands the Chapter Armory. Techmarine - Standard Rank Master of the Signal - Battlefield communications specialists. Chapter Ancient - Revered Standard-bearer Judiciar - Executioner who works under the Chapter Master The important thing is that the Standard Rank of specialists is the lowest rank among SPECIALISTS and not the standard rank in the Order. Codex describe that, for example, to become a Chaplain student you must be a respected veteran at a minimum. And at the same time it becomes Neophyte but in the Chaplain structure. Naturally, such a Neophyte is not equal to the newly recruited Neophyte scout. In a huge number of Astartes Chapters, ranks and rank of Specialists may vary greatly or be absent altogether (for example, Dark Templars do not have Librarians)

You forgot the custodes

I thought there was a scout rank in between a neophyte and a normal astarties

Can anyone tell me all the Ranks of Chaos space marines pls ?

what about Lord Commander?

Hello, noob here - can someone explain where the Judicar slots in here? Thank you :)

The Emperor of Mankind approves and says it's not heresy to make a hundred Warhammer 40,000 action movies over the next few years.

Could you please explain who wears what helmet? Like I know some wear white or red helmets while some wear those awesome skull ones. I know these are based on their position but thats all I know.

Lot better than your video on space marine sizes, but both this and that video show you have little knowledge of 40k and the places you are going to for research are somewhat out of date on some occasions. I understand it though, you suddenly got a f**k ton of hits to your channel from 40k stuff and want to capitalize on this. Be wary though 40k fans are ruthlessly stringent to the lore and you get it wrong they will turn around and bite you. Before you step into the 40k pool know that the fans are the apex predators and the second they smell blood in the water they will have a feeding frenzy. If your using 40k hits to boost your channel without knowing much then back out now while you learn and take some 40k fans with you before you piss them all off and get a sudden drop.

the one thing i wanted to learn from this video is how exactly i can recognize the different ranks. like what symbols does a captains armor show. sadly, you keep these information your secret :

Can you do the other armies’ ranks?

Have to say...the specialists i.e. medics, tech marines, chaplains etc. are higher rank than basic marines. You got that part way wrong. Having specialist training elevates them to the equivalent of an NCO at the least. If you look at modern military structures, specialists hold a higher rank than basic grunts and I don't see why it would be any different with the Astartes. You are making the Sergent rank way higher than it should be...they would be on par with the specialists as NCOs give or take. Company champions are not lower than the multiple sergents leading the various squads. I'm not sure where you got the ranking structure here but the whole middle section 13-5 is all jumbled up, chapter variance aside, and really doesn't make sense. I have been playing 40k since the 80's and served for 20 years in the military...this rank structure is way off.

Primarch is not a rank but a statue. A Rank is a reachable for all space marine not Primarch.

How dare you rank a Chaplain as plainly equal and below the others, wait till Chaplain Bald hears about this. (Seriously though Chaplains are unique because they arent chosen usually by rank but rather by fervoror in administrative fortitude, the Emperor himself appointed their existence to act as guides to towing the line - im more scared of the weakest chapters Chaplain ((including homebrew bc its susposed to dive deep)) than I am the strongest chapters Primaris)

where's War Master ?

Are space marines allowed to retire 🤔🤷‍♂️

What about the Force Commander Rank?

Don’t even try with dark angels

Had to mute it and put cc on. 🙉

custodes

Battlebrothers would not be privates. Scouts and Neophytes would not even be all privates.

Umm, dont know about your legion, but my Chaplain/Apothecary Speaker of the Dead would take your chapter master so no idea why a chaplain is ranked soo low.

Where the Adeptus Custodes ranked at?

for the emperor ✊🏼🩸

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Decent Primer Lot a Too Simple Blocky Framing

Fun fact:the red helmet on the Sargent is a tribute to a ultramarine who was know for been the first one to emulate battle tactics again other astartes in the great crusade era,the red helmet was a censure akin to the red gloves or marks on the night lord's before they took horus side,when the Horus heresy ended the helmet become the mark of a Sargent and a mark that in the underworld war of calth was to see who was a ultramarine and not a word bearers in disguise Ps:aeonid thiel the ultramarine who literally stole the personal guns of guilliman for himself 😂

How many of you came here to check he didnt fuck up? genuinely curious.

How about space wolf

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do space marines get surgery to become taller when they rise in rank?

reclusiarch wasn't mentioned

Yeah.. this doesn't fit the might DA

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Title: 15 Ranks in a Space Marine Heirarchy* *It's spelled "hierarchy" not "heirarchy".

Guys if you want to learn proper space marine rankings and roles within the lore, pick up a codex. This channel is very inaccurate.

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Do you play warhammer??? Um....

I'm a voice trainer for actors. Please don't breathe in through your nose while talking! Open mouth at the end of your sentence, just allow air to flow into your lungs. No pulling it in with force and especially not through the nose

Thumbs down for the clickbait.

Great content, too bad the person reading has a middle school reading level. It’s so excruciatingly painful to listen to this guy.

Dude is making shit up lol

misleading dude..learn lore

bad vid

and also, custodes might be above primarchs.....