Ah yes here we go~ *Gets popcorn and goes to read comment section*
@DannyFNG4 жыл бұрын
LOL I think that it is what we all do.
@supersaiyanbro4 жыл бұрын
Same
@ogloc44784 жыл бұрын
I gave you your hundredth like. Don’t be a douche and edit your comment thanking everyone for all the likes. That would make u gay
@wsgyuno4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what i did 😂
@kovacs-qb3wm4 жыл бұрын
loool
@jaikishanbhambhu88834 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats DBZ Abridged tho......
@alessandrobaggi61294 жыл бұрын
True. To me it's the default version that comes to mind when thinking about DB
@mijaroprime95094 жыл бұрын
Yes the real dbz beats
@Okumurasalamander69744 жыл бұрын
Except DBS abridged once it’s released
@airofglass74644 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrobaggi6129 errors have been made. guess the scene?
@alessandrobaggi61294 жыл бұрын
@@airofglass7464 "why... they keep kicking me... in the d**k?" 🤣
@SMABackup3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball Z was a pure masterclass and possibly the greatest piece of television ever produced
@michaeleverett13763 жыл бұрын
True, but Super has done some things better than Z did.
@watchthis2743 жыл бұрын
@@michaeleverett1376 lol. Like what?
@folakamau94633 жыл бұрын
@@michaeleverett1376 shut up dude z is better just face it,i am sure u think super is better lol aka the show that thinks goku is the only person on the planet
@imdarkmonster36973 жыл бұрын
@@folakamau9463 Don't fuck with us dragon ball fans We don't know what hell is an opinion
@vigorouslygaming59173 жыл бұрын
@@imdarkmonster3697 pfffffff
@Saki-Malo4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball super’s animation was actually good after the 1st two arcs
@ShadowMarcus773 жыл бұрын
I'd say only golden frieza arc was badly animated the others were pretty good and top arc was just the best
@arandom11143 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowMarcus77 thats so true
@arandom11143 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowMarcus77 and thats why i like the top saga more than any saga
@marcosorozco85783 жыл бұрын
It Is because the animators are overworked
@martialjordan82253 жыл бұрын
Ya but if you watch movies of those arcs u will find it way better
@Anthyrion4 жыл бұрын
I personally liked the two first Broly Movies. The Bio Broly thing... ahhh let's not talk about that. That never happend, ok?
@LordZeroTheNightmare4 жыл бұрын
The first broly was fun to watch, but it failed to really make it feel like a fight. Nevermind how bad Vegeta was handled in the Z movies (epic intros, but then quickly knocked out) I always wanted to see a longer more drawn out fight towards the end when Goku was powered up enough to take him on. It left alot to the imagination. -if there was no comet, would goku's borrowed power last long enough to effecively beat broly? Could Goku have fought more seriously earlier on but decided to bide his energy the whole time cuz everytime he measured himself against broly he realized he wasnt strong enough yet... I like to think the latter, but it still woulda been nice to have a longer fight sequence at the end of the first Broly. The second Broly movie gave us the unrestricted super saiyan look of broly, as well as his huge meteor sized energy blast at the end, but it fell short in fighting even more than the first Broly did. while it did have some fighting between Broly and Gohan before Broly went Legendary, the actual fight between Legendary Broly and Gohan was far shorter than the Goku vs Broly fight was, before the final family kamehameha sequence started. Broly's lines were also drastically reduced to just screams, kakarots, and "not until you lie dead at my feet" being the only real line from him in the entirety of the 2nd movie. This movie could have passed as 2-3 filler episodes in Z, and thats ignoring the first half of the movie until Broly shows up lol. (at least the first part of the 1st broly movie was more interesting) Fully agreed on Bio-Broly, we can all agree that SSJ swamp thing was a bad idea lol. Now Im not saying I disliked the first 2 broly movies, but they couldve been so much better than they were, and DBS: Broly pretty much did ALL the things in that regard.
@Anthyrion4 жыл бұрын
@@LordZeroTheNightmare Yeah, i always asked me, how powerful Broly really was. Was he powerful to beat Gohan when he went SSJ2 at the Cell Games? Or was he "only" a real strong SSJ who was as strong as the Androids 17 & 18? And yes, as much as i love the old berserk Broly, i truly like the new one. I think, if he could control his enormous strength, he could be a really good guy who fits into the group of Z Fighters :)
@ultragamingcom4 жыл бұрын
the broly movie have a better fight and music, but broly look so boring rage here and there.while dbs broly this one have many potential, and it have gud story and decent fight too
@jamescebeballos24274 жыл бұрын
That was for goten and trunks fans. They got there own movie
@obezy87054 жыл бұрын
Well I didn't really like the movies, nothing in super tops the frieza and android saga
@animetime32384 жыл бұрын
if we listen carefully this guy is giving dbz more points
@mcfly47064 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol originality is way better.
@RacingSnails644 жыл бұрын
Bardock i didn't hear him say that he pointed out what Super did more satisfyingly
@wtroupe64wt4 жыл бұрын
Actually no I heard super did more with 15
@iceg66214 жыл бұрын
Intredasting
@mariojumpman95734 жыл бұрын
@@mcfly4706 Sometimes new things are better.
@45CdRo4 жыл бұрын
Dbz is just a plain masterpiece,,, Super, while having it’s moments just can’t compare to the pure awesomeness of akira’s best creation.
@AboTVspecial4 жыл бұрын
The AnimatorGuy john wick, the raid
@Dhindsakarmon4 жыл бұрын
The AnimatorGuy dragon ball z is a sequel 😂💀
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
It really isn't, there's a bunch of plot holes and as a show there are much better ones, the writing was sloppy at times and oh my god the pacing of it was horrendous. DBZ just has that nostalgic value and some really powerful scenes like Future Gohan's death or Frieza's death (''YOU MUST DIE BY MY HAND!'' ''YOU FOOL!'' such a sick line), either way Super is a bit better in that sense since it inplements stuff like the S-Cells, Fusion n shit
@Razzletazle4 жыл бұрын
Karmon Dhindsa exactly, db is the goat
@brunolopes22054 жыл бұрын
calling Z a masterpiece just makes you seem ignorant. People recall Z on a pedestal due to nostalgia and the fact that most people were on the younger side. If you watch Z again as an adult you will see a bunch of potholes, inconsistencies, dumb power jumps (piccolo, Goku, gohan...), zero character development other than vegeta (this one is a problem on all Db series), the lack of storytelling and repeated plot ( villain appears, they get ass kicked, they go to the temple room, train, power-up, they win). Super had a bunch of problems (a lot of them were inherited from Z) and overall Id say it is understandable that people like Z better (it's overall better) but Z was far from perfect, way too far.
@CassiusStelar4 жыл бұрын
Everyone else: Freaks out over Trunks's hair being blue. Me: Oh cool he dyed his hair.
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
Ok so, Bulma originally had purple hair but her hair color changed to blue later in the series for some reason, Trunks had Purple hair because of Bulma's original character design, but then, to be consistent with the now blue-haired Bulma, they rechanged his hair color to Blue to fix that continuity shit
@CassiusStelar4 жыл бұрын
@@Mindless0 OK, I know that. That was just my first reaction. (Snce that is the case, why didn't they also give Kid Trunks blue hair at this point?)
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
@@CassiusStelar I honestly have no fucking clue about that one, I guess they just went like: ' ''hey uh, his hair changes color when he grows up yknow uh yeah, notice how bulma had purple hair as a kid but now she has blue hair? yeah, that''
@pootis91804 жыл бұрын
I guess it's genetic. Nothing we can do about that, right?
@joedemelfie55094 жыл бұрын
@@pootis9180 just tell your son goten we want more of him in the next series with trunks too. But he isn't your kid. Genetics whatever goku. Lucky you have the same hair all ur life.
@Multi-Manus4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, the non-cannon Broly turned into his Legendary Super Saiyan form just because he saw Goku.
@TheUltimateRare4 жыл бұрын
yeah it was so dumb, the only reason we weren't outraged, was because the movie was pretty Lit.
@Fate8624 жыл бұрын
Broly already destroyed a galaxy and had the hair and power going in. The whole mental trauma and anger towards goku is the emotional driving force for his transformation. Think about the others who transformed due to emotional sadness and pure rage over a loved one. Then recall Vegeta completely giving up on being a super saiyan and screaming in frustration about it then reaching it. The trigger has been the pure emotion of mostly some form of mental rage. With Broly's potential already so large and fighting endlessly his super saiyan feat made sense. Easy explanation and you have a DB avatar, get out of here. No seriously, its a super avatar...eww...
@haroonshah93354 жыл бұрын
Yyyyyyyyyyeah
@Fion3554 жыл бұрын
@@Fate862 For most people, its just the fact that broly is having a trauma because goku cried as a baby.....and thats it. BABIES WHO WHERE NOT EVEN HALF A YEAR OLD! Humans dont even remember the first 1-3 years, and even if they do remember moments, they are totaly unclear on the level of "I think i was ..angry? Maybe? Dont know..." And i tend to think Sayajn are the same in that regard.
@ACM-sp1gh4 жыл бұрын
The non Canon broly was so bad ass tho and just worked so much better. He looked like a legendary super saiyan. The new one looks and sounds like a lesbonic super saiyan. I prefer the hatred for goku compared to him not knowing him at all. In the new one it's his dad's hate for vegeta, the old one his dad hates vegeta but broly hates goku and paragus can't contain him then broly kills him in a savage way. The only downfall of the first film is the way broly is killed cause there's clearly no thought put into it. Now he's gonna be a Z fighter which makes no sense
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
DB: Krillin is a Fighter in his prime.👍 DBZ: He is very helpful at time by assisting either Goku or Gohan DBS: Why are you making him weak? 🤦♂️
@seraphimvalkyrin45434 жыл бұрын
And "super" short lol.
@miguel_19724 жыл бұрын
Krillin=Ssblue in Super lol
@denniswildcat284 жыл бұрын
Well krillin is still human and is in his forties I’m sure age and having kids affects him differently but still is the strongest human ever.
@kwesikerr-yearwood50254 жыл бұрын
@@denniswildcat28 I would say tien is
@seraphimvalkyrin45434 жыл бұрын
@@denniswildcat28 Technically 17 is the strongest human even.
@ilyaccount67933 жыл бұрын
dude dbz got me being nostalgic like i remember sitting back eating my cereal watch dbz goku kick ass, but dbs literally just didnt make goku care about anything, they also made their transformations copied, how u gonna tell me that ssjg isnt a cppy of goku in his base form how u gonna tell me ssjgss isnt a copy of ssj like they just being lazy
@raheebkamal51983 жыл бұрын
@@blockify5598 ah yes a show made in the early 90's will definitely have better animation than a show made after 2015
@moro-og-7394 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: “The Pilaf Gang is a fun and entertaining trio and they‘re good helpers for Bulma”
@that1nerd7564 жыл бұрын
I share said unpopular opinion.
@moro-og-7394 жыл бұрын
That1Nerd share?
@that1nerd7564 жыл бұрын
@@moro-og-739 I also think the Pilaf Gang are fun and entertaining.
@dareal_yuyu98684 жыл бұрын
They have been fun characters since the begining, especialy in super
@moro-og-7394 жыл бұрын
dareal_ yuyu I find them funny and they help the gang with minor things like Bulma’s pregnancy and when the time machine was burning
@pizzabruh24654 жыл бұрын
You forgot that they brought back the kaioken technique
@dukkemonterier34293 жыл бұрын
Completely ruined and without it's drawbacks.
@Zoroislostagaian3 жыл бұрын
@@dukkemonterier3429 because god ki😐obviously his body handled it better than before thanks to his super saiyan blue you dingus!!
@chriscoughs57743 жыл бұрын
@@Zoroislostagaian I think what I enjoyed about Kaioken was its drawbacks. It made fights more interesting that it was used in.
@MobyDrip2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscoughs5774 It did have drawbacks, Goku almost died when he first used it against hit.
@nyeeeofthestarsz18042 жыл бұрын
They brought it back in dbz too with the super kaioken
@GSM00914 жыл бұрын
I love how when it came to trunks, vegeta had no hesitation giving his energy away unlike the times when he's asked to give goku his energy
@coal88953 жыл бұрын
Yeah because vegetaikes trunks more then he likes goku
@mechdemon42182 жыл бұрын
@@coal8895 That's obvious cause trunks is his godamed *son*
@Zachary6224 жыл бұрын
i prefer the DBZ Series because the characters didn't playing around like DBS series.
@sageninja72602 жыл бұрын
Did play around? You didn’t see the Goku Black Arc? The Tournament of Power arc? You kidding me??
@aliserag70102 жыл бұрын
Black arc is fan service it was good at the start also TOP is gokusfault that idiot super goku who's a shell of z goku is selfish
@GuyChooo2 жыл бұрын
@@aliserag7010 uhh yeah, zeno would erase the universes that aren't doing their jobs anyways so if not for Goku making the TOP to happen, the universes with low mortal levels will be erased. Also, no Goku making TOP to happen, no TOP arc sooo.
@hormoheb2 жыл бұрын
@@GuyChooo i think what he means is he prefers goku's serious tone and funny tone balanced to be honest super goku just wants a good fight while in z goku says it himself "i like to avoid fights if i can" so what they did is they completely changed gokus personality
@fattyflabs43232 жыл бұрын
@@sageninja7260 goku sucks in super lol, and even in the top arc he wasn't even taking it seriously until the end where he goes mui
@johnaldinalam26314 жыл бұрын
I also loved how they were able to make things out of their Ki. Like that time Golu planted landmines for Jiren and stuff.. Or making weapons out of Ki. I think those were cool.
@jaydenmhlanga35177 ай бұрын
Gok not golu (Misspled) happens to the best of us
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
No offense but here’s my reasons why DBZ is better than Dragon Ball Super: - brutally, dismemberment, and blood spilling - Videl as a badass Tomboy - Gohan grown from a scared kid to a warrior with potential - Piccolo as a more prominent character - Vegeta’s anti hero role with some badass one liners - Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin being relevants throughout the arcs, except the Buu Saga - Bruce Fauconer’s scores - Emotional and dramatic moments that makes us fans tear up. - Intense battles and destruction - Future Trunks’s muscular tone and purple hair - Pikkon and the other world combatants - Non-Canon villains from movies (Cooler, DBZ Broly, Hirudegarm, Janemba, etc) - Frieza Saga - Son Goku given a more noble/heroic role than his original continuity. - King Kai’s Training - Z-Fighters vs the Ginyu Force - TV Specials (Bardock: The Father of Goku and the History of Trunks) that are tied to the main arcs -Bardock with his green armor and his badass red bandanna.
@RvrStyxRasputin4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate most of this, except DBZ completely undid any Gohan good with the buu saga.
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
@RcrStyxRaspytin I had that issue too. Especially Super treated his character very poorly until the Tournament of Power.
@Spiarmf4 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your points! Seriously, I miss Bruce Faulconer. This video claims that Super handles side characters, like the other Z fighters, better than Z handled them. But I couldn't disagree more with points like that. I really wish we could see a true return of the other Z fighters in the same capacity as we did in Z. Things like Piccolo and Kami's fusion, Tien smashing the hell out of Cell with his Tri-beam , or Gohan being considered stronger than all of the other fighters, or even just the adventures of Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo, and Vegeta on Namek while Goku was essentially MIA. Those made for awesome and meaningful moments in the series. I feel like anime writing in general is a bit too ADD these days. It often doesn't slow down to truly build meaningful moments anymore.
@NegaWarhead4 жыл бұрын
@@Spiarmf I agree but I feel OPM is good with that just look at the manga and webcomic if u haven't since the anime is behind
@Gargoyle_754 жыл бұрын
I clicked ‘like’ for Piccolo.
@damefame89214 жыл бұрын
*What ruined Dbs* Goku being stupid Super Saiyan Blue is overused Who's Gohan again? No danger in death (Goku bringing himself back to life) (Master Roshi coming back to life) Goten and Trunks have no purpose Not enough strategy (just *WOW HE MAKE BOOM*) The writing is childish (Dyspo super ultra light speed mode) No blood (not asking for Gore but OG dbz)
@mattbarlow13984 жыл бұрын
Goten and Trunks are forgotten about that much in character development that they haven't even been bothered to age them 😂
@rambofan3344 жыл бұрын
"What ruined Dbs Goku being stupid" Turn in your Dragon Ball fan card now, it has been revoked.
@AlastorD4 жыл бұрын
"Super Saiyan Blue is overused" So they should go the DBZ way and make every new achievement a pushover in the next arc? "No danger in death (Goku bringing himself back to life) (Master Roshi coming back to life)" They werent really dead in the first place. And about the Danger of Death, what Dragon Ball Heroe hasn´t died at least once in Z?
@rambofan3344 жыл бұрын
@@AlastorD DameFame: No, this isn't how you're supposed to play the game.
@NavyBluePersonGuy4 жыл бұрын
@@rambofan334 Of course he's dumb he literally bumped his head as a kid
@Charlie-qi9rr4 жыл бұрын
Idk what y'all were talking about with female saiyans. The way they became super Saiyan and the way their arc went is one of the biggest let downs, causing for finally having female saiyans, but them just being lame
@KIdMikie562 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the U6 Saiyans were much more powerful than the U7 saiyans. In Z it seems to me there is a particular power level that must be achieved and then a triger to achieve super saiyan. Not only were the U6 saiyans way more powerful in base but their genetics were different as well. As far as the tingly back thing Im sure there would be many sensations you would feel if you could transform and radically alter your strength. Imagine being able to mutate on command. Lmfao I respect your opinion though.
@charlesart19924 жыл бұрын
I knew the comment section was gonna be epic after he talked down Z like that
@JoseGarcia-gp8ch4 жыл бұрын
I don't care how long it takes for super to return just as long as we get longer arcs and better story telling
@lllllll59904 жыл бұрын
Jose Garcia n new forms for other people like trunks
@endofyeww204 жыл бұрын
シF i n e s s i n g not new forms, people were bitching when caulifla and kale became ssj, just make the characters good
@jantheking70283 жыл бұрын
@@towa.m People like you need to be quiet. DBZ fans are always complaining. Back when Akira TRIED to make Gohan the main character, yall complained, so he just brought back kid goku in the form of goten, and yall STILL complained. And now 20 years later, yall are complaining about Goten NOT being the main character?
@jantheking70283 жыл бұрын
@@endofyeww20 I liked Cauflia and Cabba as characters, I just HATED Kale, she was so annoying and added nothing to the story besides someone for cauflia to fuse with.
@endofyeww203 жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 I really liked caulifla, but I didn't really like cabba, and I actually liked kale, I just would've preferred if they developed her to the point where she isn't so dependent on her sister, and I feel like those 3 are coming back whenever his series returns, so we can expect some real development from them.
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
Videl really needs to come back as a tomboy martial artist we all know and love
@sittingcrowd9124 жыл бұрын
A.J Thomas yes. With pigtails and an aggressive personality
@idontpost93974 жыл бұрын
Nah i actually hated her but i think it was because she thought her dad was the strongest in the world tho
@Created.Figure4 жыл бұрын
@@idontpost9397 that's the exact reason I didnt like her, cause I cant stand hercule.
@matthewbreytenbach44834 жыл бұрын
@@tdatda410 Agreed, she was kind of annoying; still though I wish they hadn't sidelined her, especially when you consider her Goku level affinity for ki control.
@babaluplays42584 жыл бұрын
I never liked Videl in Z she was rude and she whines
@infamousplayer87724 жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of my favorite parts about Super was the calmer moments and the conversations some characters had with each other. Bulma talking to Jaco and Goku and Jaco and that squid interacting and Goku and Vegeta talking about how they love the fiercer sides of Bulma and Chichi, with Vegeta revealing that it's because of their Saiyan blood while Piccolo is having a crisis in the background, or when Goku and 17 talked in that island before the tournament and Goku straight up said that he wasn't a hero and all that. These conversations are really interesting and it's fun to see these characters interacting like this. I feel like in Z the world was just CONSTANTLY in danger and there wasn't much time to slow things down and focus on these kind of things but Super does that really well.
@quazduke94503 жыл бұрын
Ayeeee nice infamous Pfp
@TheFracturedfuture2 жыл бұрын
Essentially it's more boring.
@infamousplayer87722 жыл бұрын
@@TheFracturedfuture essentially it has substance.
@TheFracturedfuture2 жыл бұрын
@@infamousplayer8772 What good is substance if it looks like shit.
@infamousplayer87722 жыл бұрын
@@TheFracturedfuture yeah sure, the first two arcs look like shit, Z didn't exactly have the best art ever either, it was just more consistent and even then looked like shit a considerable amount of time too.
@CLSharpman50004 жыл бұрын
Master Roshi bein' a perv is hilarious tho.
@gaminghistory50804 жыл бұрын
But he couldn't fight like that
@carterrobb75244 жыл бұрын
Master Roshi being a pervert is a thing that should not be took away
@98Supremee4 жыл бұрын
The show is clearly geared towards a younger demographic and you want them to see perversion? You sick my guy lmao
@cinemamadness69204 жыл бұрын
@@98Supremee Dragonball was suggested for 12 year old and up, and Western kids are more mature about violence while Japanese kids are more mature about sex at a young age than Westerners are, look at yourself as an example.
@marcuscaz79784 жыл бұрын
He's still a pervert, he just doesn't let it cloud his thoughts and judgement in fights anymore, he even used it to his advantage in one of the ToP fights
@davoaxwell73494 жыл бұрын
Gio Benzo That’s apart of his character dumbass
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
Nah he just didn't let it get to him for the Tournament of Power, that was it he didn't stop being a pervert
@Nunezbeastinqqq4 жыл бұрын
*How dare you say something to controversial and yet so brave*
@hallucinationist80384 жыл бұрын
When your confused about DBZ then you move on to DBS, everything makes more sense.
@tankjackson6983 жыл бұрын
Or maybe you would not be confused of dbz if you watch the og db
@iplayoverwatch69964 жыл бұрын
I really like both DBZ and DBS. In my opinion they are on par with each other, and are good series' in their own respects
@mixedmf523 жыл бұрын
@TITAN VEGAS do you know what on par means?
@patrickzachinfinity88883 жыл бұрын
@@mixedmf52 shut the fuck up
@lunattt42743 жыл бұрын
Fuck no dbs barely better than gt don’t ever put it on the same level as db and dbz 😂
@mixedmf523 жыл бұрын
Hey we got someone who doesn’t respect opinions here.
@mixedmf523 жыл бұрын
@@patrickzachinfinity8888 No I don’t think I will.
@airofglass74644 жыл бұрын
One thing dbz does better than super: being a better series
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
Nobody disagrees but super ain't that bad either
@airofglass74644 жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-777 agreed. super isn't bad by any means, but (maybe nostalgia speaking) I just find z better
@airofglass74644 жыл бұрын
@Torris Smith Jr yeah the characters definitely felt more accomplished at least. especially when goku, vegeta and gohan went ssj/ssj2
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
@Torris Smith Jr and you think that wasnt the same with super
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
@@airofglass7464 i respect that opinion
@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.4 жыл бұрын
Dragon ball Z had alot of slice of life moments like when the 7 year time skip ended and there were those episodes where gohan went to high school,or the 10 day period while waiting for the cell games,when goku and his family hung out and went to places together
@theultimatewarlord694204 жыл бұрын
Jijii Y. Yeah, which is a whole bunch, and I loved it. But almost all of those was just Goku’s family. Dragon Ball Super showed pretty much a whole bunch of people’s slice of life
@malidog11824 жыл бұрын
Legendary Warlord ok so here’s the thing in that 7year leap I was like yesss and then Gohan started putting on that stupid costume then Vedel started to show up and she’s terrible like I hate her character like then I started comparing the bad ass future gohan to that teenager bs then when he started to get serious it wasn’t the same so I just started to like trunks and goten look all I’m saying is that I miss young gohan
@SuperSaiyanMaster20244 жыл бұрын
Judging by the Thumbnail I thought this was gonna be about how it has better animation.
@RedShogun133 жыл бұрын
Let’s be perfectly clear though. #2 as described isn’t “raising the stakes” from a narrative perspective. That entire bit is just crediting super for having “stronger” foes and greater jumps in power leveling/scaling. Because to say that DBS “raises the stakes” better or more than DBZ is really hard to argue considering that’s one of DBZ’s greatest strengths. Considering the framing of Dragonball coming into Z you have things like Goku immediately fighting for for the life of his young son teaming up with the big bad of the previous series and giving up his life to do it, saving the earth from the saiyans, traveling to Namek and preventing Frieza a galactic level threat which latently becomes Goku avenging and protecting the legacy a heritage he just recently had to accept (Goku initially didn’t accept that he was a saiyan like Raditz but by the Frieza Saga he’s almost fighting with his entire race on his back Among other things). There’s a need to save the Future AND the past...to change DESTINY to save causality, Gohan has to overcome his feelings of weakness and inadequacy to save the world from Cell to become the strongest or risk losing not only his life but everything and everyone he loves (Gohan being a much more emotionally involved/attached character than even his father) and having his father’s sacrifice be in vain...not able to fill the shoes of his father who believed in him if he failed, etc. The stakes are EXTREMELY high and are gradually raised throughout DBZ on the individual, personal and literal power levels. DBS is so busy marginalizing their own characters and story it really can’t compare the the depth and drama of Z. It’s like DBS doesn’t even respect itself enough to take itself seriously as a story. It feels cheap. Not the production value but the writing itself. So many cheap cop outs and cliche anime tropes used carelessly and without thought imo. But yeah ultimately you can’t say DBZ didn’t do a great job of handling what was at stake and raising those stakes for everyone on so many different levels outside of “who is stronger than who”.
@RedShogun133 жыл бұрын
Also I want to add that it doesn’t help Super that they have the Beerus and Whis characters hang around who are immediately interpreted to be so strong that most of the conflict in Super could have been snuffed out without any trouble had the aforementioned two ever decided to stop being joke characters by nature and actually get involved in the fights to save everyone. Also until the narrative is adjusted slightly at the very end in the Tournament of Power the fact that from the beginning we know Goku and Vegeta have access to Super Saiyan Blue makes every and all fights where they start fighting in SSJ1 or SSJ2 feel like “this fight is a wash and Goku could easily turn SSB and disintegrate this guy if he was really trying”. It cheapens most of the fights. ToP starts to highlight SSB and SSG can’t be used for long durations because of strain which was nice but that got attention WAY too late like towards the end. For what it’s worth the pre use for ToP being a ring out free for all tournament was cool but wish they did more with it. For like half a second it made other characters that weren’t SSB level fighters relevant for a bit which was refreshing if not short lived.
@DnaturalBreaux2 жыл бұрын
Talking good sense to me.
@DRAXTD-bk6it11 ай бұрын
@@RedShogun13nope
@drmbilals4 жыл бұрын
in contrast: top 100 thing dbz does better than dbs
@TheUltimateRare4 жыл бұрын
wow opinions exist? It's almost like both sides are right because they are allowed to have opinions XD
@GiorgosAigio964 жыл бұрын
okay and can you name all 100 of them? thanks
@haroonshah93354 жыл бұрын
No
@anejionatana69644 жыл бұрын
chocoburger senpai Normie
@thewhitedemon19884 жыл бұрын
@@anejionatana6964 Same to ya buddy.
@33jedi4 жыл бұрын
Some of these weren't bad points, like handeling Broly, or introducing female super saiyans, but here is a couple big issues I personally had with it. 1: Yes they introduced female saiyans and even super saiyans, but they picked up on super Saiyan so quickly that it seemed unearned, and then super Saiyan 2 as well. Kale was better as she has the same power as Broly, but still, it felt cheap. 2: They did in fact explain the fusion breaking, but it seems like they only did that because they realized that the fans were creating different answers and wanted to create something concrete. they wrote themselves into a hole and had to dig their way out, and while the fans had great ideas, they were tossed away because once again they wrote themselves into a hole with merged zamasu and had to dig their way out. 3: Future trunks was handled terribly, inconsistent time line problems in both z and here with Mai's age, and also the spirit sword was bs though I did like that he reached ssj2, the problem was that he was once again painted as incredibly powerful only to then become useless immediately. 4: The jokes, simply are not that great in my opinion. They seemed to take inspiration from TFS and made Goku into a bumbling idiot who thought kissing was yucky, and while we never seen him kiss chi-chi no one denied that he should have considering the wedding. 5: Speaking of inconsistency's, trunks in the main timeline is messed up as well, he is supposed to be what? 13 here. . . he hasn't grown at all since he was 8 and we seen him at this age in the special where he looked much bigger. They literally only did this to have him and Mai at the same age because of his future self but that don't make sense because that mai never got reverted and should be closer to 60 by now if not older. These are just a few issues, I have many more. Honestly while not perfect the manga was a lot better.
@silly3man154 жыл бұрын
33jedi Damn. You hit the nail on the head i swear. Just to piggyback, I feel that Goku and Vegeta’s relationship throughout the course of DBZ and DBS has progressed in accordance to time the way it should have, therefor saying that they depicted their relationship better in Super than in Z isnt even a fair comparison. DBZ wasnt setup for them to be complete friends just yet since Vegeta was still angry at how far Goku has surpassed him in strength still. Also, idc about something being cannon or not, DBS definitely has more fillers than Z. You can literally watch “Battle of Gods” and “Return of Freeza” then start at the tournament and be caught up with the series. Tis all
@33jedi4 жыл бұрын
@@silly3man15 thank you, I've been a huge fan since I started with the first episode of Dragon ball. Super is definitely filler and none of it makes any sense. Okay technique over power sure, I agree with that, but in a tornament with people who can blow up planets and even solar systems by simply powering up, Roshi, Tien, Krillin should have died instantly surrounded by all of that. C17 and 18 should have been taken out quickly. Piccolo and Gohan should have held on for a bit, but let's be real here only gods stood a real chance so Frieza, Goku, and Vegeta were the only ones that should have made it through especially after Goku reached ultra instinct and Vegeta mastered ssjb. The other seven should have been fodder, and I hate saying that because Gohan Piccolo and Krillin are some of my favorite characters.
@Riqo_Smooth4 жыл бұрын
33jedi It’s like Dbs used TOP Characters in place of the characters we know and love also. Female Saiyan are cool but why tf wouldn’t Gohan be able to get some new transformation. Why are the new characters at ssj2 painted to be stronger than Gohan and Piccolo?? Trunks can hang with Zamasu in ssj2???? Jirens backstory 🚮
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
@LeftTheNegotiator Yeah they mentioned that kinder Saiyans produce more S-Cells which boosts their potential to go Super, if they concentrate it all in one spot and merge it with their Ki in one big energy explosion, they'll most likely unlock super for a bit atleast. That's why Gohan had trouble turning super in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, he didn't have that rage that made his blood flow and energy burst, that was until 16 was killed and he snapped releasing all his energy. Caulifla and Cabba call it back tingles cause they're talking in a more chill, non-chalant way. So uh, yeah that's how it goes
@TheAazah4 жыл бұрын
They pick up on supersayain the same way gohan did in the the chamber. Just think of lost hurt and pain.. goku did the same thing when killin died right in front of him.
@AUSTIN.F4 жыл бұрын
Most of the humor that he mentioned was in like, filler episodes.
@prod._J13 жыл бұрын
The Dragon ball Super Manga is way more serious. It has a tone like DBZ
@joedemelfie55094 жыл бұрын
Android 17 being a good guy saving his universe was worth every bit of super being just as good as any dragon ball z material. He was awesome to see him fight and improve and not be bantha fodder for cell.
@AngelHerrera-dj5cd3 жыл бұрын
Like where were these characters when earth was being threatened by Cell or Buu?
@SonCurran4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball Super definitely did not have higher stakes. Not once did I feel like things were going to end badly. Only time I thought it felt remotely close to that was during the Goku Black Arc.
@hansolav59244 жыл бұрын
a non-pervert turtle sage? that's it, then. I'm not watching it.
@iceg66214 жыл бұрын
True
@12shots224 жыл бұрын
what does master roshi becomes without his pervertness ? that's right the next yamcha.
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
The narrator's mistaken. Roshi only suppressed his perversion for the tournament, and nearly failed at it.
@AwesomeNinjaXD4 жыл бұрын
Non-perverted? This man tried to straight up force himself on Yurin, and Caway's comments (Japanese) about him are questionable.
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeNinjaXD Yup, he's actually more rapey this time around.
@NekMinuteG4 жыл бұрын
"Goku and friends" whenever you say that I can't help but laugh because it's so accurate lmao.
@jsammy59354 жыл бұрын
Reasons that DBZ was way better: 1)The characters were way more badass 2)The characters power was not nerfed that much unlike super 3)Transformations are unlocked by hard training and not just joining hands and getting massive power up, or getting power by just coincidence 4)Z fighters had more value 5) Beautiful realistic art, blood, Destruction and more realistic effects 6) Power Levels were more something back then 7) For obvious reasons the Bruce Faulconer Score 8) It didn't have that massive spotlight on Goku compared to super 9) CBR obviously does not recognise dbz's true quality and legacy (CBR in many of the videos says bullshit anyways) 10)it was drawn on hand and not by some stupid computer unlike super that made it's artstyle look like pile of crap 11) Goku was more like a noble and smarter Saiyan and not a dumb fuck like in super The only thing I appreciate from Super Art are for obvious reasons Nataoshi Shida Scenes
@armandohernandez54544 жыл бұрын
Master Luigi couldnt have said it better myself
@budgiecat28854 жыл бұрын
Another thing: Why didnt Champa train the Saiyans before the tournament? He obviously should know about Super Saiyan because the angels shoulda informed him. So in other words, all of his Saiyans shoulda been SSJ God/SSJ Blue level entering the tournament. Hell, everyone entering shoulda had God ki. Not just Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo (yes Piccolo has God Ki he fused with Kami remember; he just hasnt mastered it)
@jantheking70283 жыл бұрын
@@budgiecat2885 Um what? You expected Champa to train 2 non-super sayains and train them enough to be SSB within 10 days? If that happened, it would give DBZ fans more reasons to hate DBS.
@budgiecat28853 жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 How can non Super Saiyans turn into Super Saiyan? lol i know what you meant but your wording is poor there. You meant 3 (not two since theres the other guy) Saiyans that only one of them could transform to SSJ while one of the other two was hiding her abilities anyway. Well...the answer to that is they all shoulda been SSJ from the start; not first impression weaklings. Then through Champa's alien's training; gain SSB or whatever. Or, this coulda also been a way to properly introduce SSJ4 into the main canon since they were from a different universe anyway; but they fucked that up since they established that they didnt have tails.
@knockoutreviews64684 жыл бұрын
Comparing a high budget movie that had plenty of time to a normal episode with a specific deadline...lmaooo
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
They said anything from DBZ, so I guess they're also comparing it to the old movies. Regardless, it's still a positive.
@Charlie-qi9rr4 жыл бұрын
Lol this vid had the most tilted scales wit a sjw narrator thinking the female super saiyans were anything but wasted and yeah they included broly as dbs 😐😐😐
@jp38134 жыл бұрын
@@Charlie-qi9rr SJW is purely an American term. Japan especially doesn't care about such things, thus the female Saiyans aren't a problem in most parts of the world.
@AwesomeNinjaXD4 жыл бұрын
@God Of Savages I thought the T.o.P. arc was around 6-8 weeks of development.
@Mindless04 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Animation should never ever come into the equation when it has a fucking 19 year difference like bruh. 19 years between the end of DBZ and the start of Super. Oh yeah bruh Super Mario Bros for the NES is worse than Super Mario Odyssey for the Switch cause it has worse graphics Like that point makes no fucking sense whatsoever
@PegasusPablo4 жыл бұрын
That's definitely not the design of SS2 Goku!
@ErmacXtreme19913 жыл бұрын
It’s just a different image of ssj1
@indianflippingart95934 жыл бұрын
The reason I love dbs...... Ultra instinct
@ghrey85573 жыл бұрын
Weird ..
@indianflippingart95933 жыл бұрын
@@ghrey8557 how?
@mark781293 жыл бұрын
@@ghrey8557 how and why. I love ultra instinct
@ycrouge1963 жыл бұрын
DBZ the goat
@neezeus79864 жыл бұрын
bro the time period of the animation is a major difference so animation shouldn't have been brought up
@GoblinGoodfella4 жыл бұрын
True!
@mikay78664 жыл бұрын
There is basically no difference between the Time periods... Dragonballs Animation is still done the same way. People drawing on paper 24/7
@AwesomeNinjaXD4 жыл бұрын
@@mikay7866 Well, they do use CGI for aura and such, iirc. (Jiren, Beerus, etc.)
@ImPurplePup4 жыл бұрын
Yes it should've it sucked at the start
@DarkSerris4 жыл бұрын
So modern cars are not better than 1930's cars ?
@ermacfan657bigfan54 жыл бұрын
I loved everything about dragonballZ and Dragonball Super.
@AceofSpades-nf1eb4 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@zeusb31274 жыл бұрын
Everything?? The female saiyans the teletubbies?
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
@@zeusb3127 the teletubbies were purposefully made to be hated by everyone
@ermacfan657bigfan54 жыл бұрын
@@zeusb3127 😁😁😁
@Realletsplaygrey2 жыл бұрын
Super is phenomenal, I grew up on Z And I will gladly say I LOVE super.i love the power levels, I love the gods etc.
@jeremiahwilson26984 жыл бұрын
It seems that everybody is complaining about the animation, so I'm here to clear this up: It is not the animator's fault, it was due to a short time period to animate between each episode, resulting in them putting rough drafts in place of a finished piece of animation, a lot of people will say that it's due to inexperienced animators which is not true, a lot of the animators there were actually veterans from DBZ such as, Masahiro Shimanuki, Hiroyuki Itai, Osamu Ishikawa, Yoshitaka Yashima, Hirotaka Nii, Shuichiro Manabe, Yuichi Karasawa, Futoshi Higashide, Noaki Tate, and the legend.... Naotoshi Shida! But anyways, please don't hate on Dragon Ball Super for it's animation, hate on the people that gave the animators very little time to complete the episodes.
@lanreakerele43754 жыл бұрын
I believe that every Dragon Ball franchise is always be the best, even Goku as the main prognaist which makes the show to be intresting as a 🐐 anime character
@whymustyoudisagree91584 жыл бұрын
Lanre Akerele yes gt goku is the best one
@NegaWarhead4 жыл бұрын
@@whymustyoudisagree9158 GT goku personality wise is one of the best especially DBS goku personality
@monte_20004 жыл бұрын
I’m highly curious to see what these guys say. Because as of right now, the only thing I can think of that Super did better than Z is the dub translation.
@jantheking70283 жыл бұрын
Super did its major fights better, it does comedy better, and thats about it.
@turbotrup963 жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 the comedy was made for teenagers and lower, so the typical Anime audience, I guess the fight sequences look like they don't even belong to Dragon Ball - the animation style is way too different, and choreography could be less random and sped up
@tierraa043 жыл бұрын
@@turbotrup96 yeah but the animation is better and more clear to see unlike z
@rc23dp2o3 жыл бұрын
More, doesn't mean, better, God damn.... we don't need multiuniversal God characters jeeeez
@erikalvarez45164 жыл бұрын
I like how they coordinated more team battles. Z had a few but were mostly just one on one spars. Imagine if the Z warriors had a full out assault on the Saiyans when they came to Earth. Especially without Vegeta wanting to join in the beginning it would have been cool seeing the gang attack Napa and the Saibamen
@thestrong24014 жыл бұрын
I personally prefered the episode Goku and Piccolo learned how to drive in dbz more than all the fillers DBS showed for comedy purposes. Making Arale go toe to toe with god tier Goku and Vegeta wasn't comedy it only made them look bad. Their god forms are not supposed to be a joke.
@KIdMikie562 жыл бұрын
That was one of the best DBZ episodes for sure!
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
We want Gohan and the Z Fighters be more relevant in the future arcs. Goku and Vegeta had already had theirs moments.
@dialena44184 жыл бұрын
@George McCrary, II they made android 17 as strong as blue and krillin could clash with them. Let alone the master roshi and frieza asspulls. They can do anything at this point
@LordZeroTheNightmare4 жыл бұрын
They can cook up a transofrmation for Piccolo, and some really weird stuff for tien probably lol. I mean, Neo tri beam against Semi perfect cell was still an incredible feat for his character even now, when you think about how strong characters were at that time. I def agree that we need other characters in the spot light, though Super has done that well too actually, giving us Trunks as the hero of a story that had SSGSS Vegito, and 17 as the last man standing in the ToP while Goku shared the final push alongside Frieza for one of the best fight sequences in the series next to DBS: Broly lol. I have a feeling we'll see more when the time comes.
@dialena44184 жыл бұрын
@@LordZeroTheNightmare piccolo could have something similar to those namekians from universe 6 ( if that was the right one ) As of tien he has a ton to do with meditation... he could get some recognition from that arch angel for that ( still wished roshi got the ultra instict honestly lol )
@---Mattia---4 жыл бұрын
Piccolo is stronger than a SSJ2, he legit deserves more space
@kungfuhusler4 жыл бұрын
I want some more Dragon Ball Online story elements to start coming into play because toriyama wrote the plot for that game, plots like: Tenshinhan's New Crane School which has sort of happened in super, Kuririn becoming the master of the New Turtle School, Goten and Trunks start their own school called the Kikoukenjutsu or Qigong Swordsmanship probably inspired by Future Trunks, Gohan and Yamucha's sword use; Gohan writes a scientific book on Ki Control for Martial Artist, King Kai actually teaches the Earth's populace to use the Kaioken, and Yardrats come to Earth to teach their techniques to Earthlings now likely inspired by Vegeta and Goku learning from them. These need to happen at least after the Moro Arc.
@youtubediscriber64384 жыл бұрын
For my Thoughts,the only thing that is not ok with super is Everything... Its changed even the work of drawing,very poor drawing,the muscles the proportion of the budy,everything is made more shitty,when u saw songoku and others,they were painted with dignity,and with something special in it,now they all look like Some half pottatoes ... sory for my english.
@LuckyTheory4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen ToP arc?
@sheebify4 жыл бұрын
Luta Most likely not
@atrixiumalt38804 жыл бұрын
How about you try to be an animator for a popular series on a really rushed time schedule trying to replicate Akira Toriyama's art style for about 3500 - 5000 keyframes (which for even skilled animators could take a hour or two) for every single episode , not to mention the in between frames which smooth the animation out.
@themasterkey57094 жыл бұрын
Ok so make a really good episode that copy’s Akira toriyamas art style in like 2 weeks at max and having a good story written with no V reference imma wait
They need to go into the Moro arc when they bring the anime back
@supersaiyanbro4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremiah Menzie it is coming back they already confirmed super 2
@mihajlo43334 жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan Bro when is it coming back?
@ahtalk98474 жыл бұрын
@Jeremiah Menzie They r
@faraz_38344 жыл бұрын
@@supersaiyanbro When it is coming ??
@supersaiyanbro4 жыл бұрын
@@faraz_3834 either this year or they are announcing a new movie this year super comes next year. They want to make sure there is plenty of manga to go off of
@fryer.studios1004 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming you missed this in the dbs movie since they were only in the background but Bardock’s gang that got killed in Z by Dodoria and those other 3 guys were seen in the background with the other saiyans while king cold was introducing Frieza. And Toyotoro drew them in their dbs outfits moments before Dodoria killed them so they couldn’t contact Bardock so I’d still consider them canon. They even had some other key moments that were offscreen from the bardock special in the dbs broly movie like bardocks fight with Frieza men outside the ship since Bardock’s armor was damaged like in the original non-canon version
@Pwn3r4 жыл бұрын
Roshi liking women is "problematic"? You're why everything is so serious nowadays... its supposed to be comical.
@gaminghistory50804 жыл бұрын
Do you not understand that it was problematic because he couldn't fight with the universe because there were women warriors from other universes and he wouldn't be able to fight while they are there
@AnyaOshua4 жыл бұрын
This is the feminist take on DB lol CBR is a feminist mouth piece. Trying to find MeToo & Identity politics tag lines.
@cipher6594 жыл бұрын
Yeah well why that cant be said about super
@ciiss52854 жыл бұрын
1:43 “Another thing that Super does better than DBZ is raising the stakes” I swear to god I almost clicked off this video after I heard that
@rezwann43553 жыл бұрын
DBZ raised stakes everytime the same way(goku is away, friends are getting their ass kicked ,at long last goku makes the grand entry , fightt every saga its the same way stakes r raised ) DBZ is pure nostalgia but DBS (until hit comes to the scene is bullshit) after hit it really gets interesting DBS s5 is just WOW correcting the flaws it raised stakes in a diversified way not the same way again and again.
@nadavr64484 жыл бұрын
The humor on DBS was hilarious, seriously - the male love recital ?? XD And also the animation is much better on mass fights. The multiverse tournament had Many vs many while DBZ had 99% of the times fight 1 on 1 (except the movies and history of trunks). it was always something that bothered me on DBZ
@GOD_lovesyousomuch3 жыл бұрын
Best opinion ever.
@tierraa043 жыл бұрын
@@GOD_lovesyousomuch ikr his is so good
@alexxyrn88584 жыл бұрын
This man just kale and caulifla are interesting characters😂 them thots ain’t interesting
@TheBlond494 жыл бұрын
They are.
@omnik2134 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlond49 how
@seraphimvalkyrin45434 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlond49 They pretty much break everything we know about SSJ's just so they can compete with Goku. Terrible writing and useless characters.
@johnyogi114 жыл бұрын
they are
@yojimpo54244 жыл бұрын
I like Caulifla's approach to transformation. Rather than unlocking ssj with anger, just learn the technique.
@Sunflower_SM64 Жыл бұрын
I agree I thought I was the only one that noticed all of these things, especially the thing about it having less filler than DBZ, I’ve always preferred DBS over DBZ
@TwistedSoul20024 жыл бұрын
DBS was a homage to DBZ. It’s probably not apparent on the first watch but there are many throwbacks and subtle references to DBZ.
@leastlikelysuspect51224 жыл бұрын
Goku singing Cha-La
@TheoryCrafter4 жыл бұрын
ah the good ol days, watching funimation and having only two commercials ever playing.... bio broly and some fullmetal alchemist videogame commercial
@jimmyplier744 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball Super: Broly is the first Dragon Super movie! Battle Of The Gods and Resurrection F is Dragon Ball Z movies right?
@toffee42714 жыл бұрын
correct
@AGZhark Жыл бұрын
Oh you better delete this... Those ride-or-die Z fans will go crazy.
@Sydney-wi1ym11 ай бұрын
😂😂
@savagexman19934 жыл бұрын
The best animation in super was better than the best animation in z, but the overall animation was better in z, at least in my opinion
@infamousplayer87724 жыл бұрын
Consistency.
@drift41924 жыл бұрын
5:54 Ah sh-t here we go again Naruto talks about his past Edit: OMG THANKS SO MUCH FOR 75 LIKES I THAW IT WONT EVEN GET A LIKE
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been cool to see a Dragon Ball x Naruto crossover
@thekinginyellow77244 жыл бұрын
Gogeta SSGSS I accidentally stopped on your comment on that scene, never had to go back.
@haroonshah93354 жыл бұрын
How
@haroonshah93354 жыл бұрын
Oh you meant 556
@Shanghaibluelulu4 жыл бұрын
Please don’t hate, but I liked Supers Animation way more than Zs
@Zelbun2 жыл бұрын
Tell me your stupid without telling me your stupid. This video:
@Pssybart4 жыл бұрын
I agree with most points made, except for the one about the higher stakes. Sure, DBS may have higher stakes on a technical level, with the introduction of a multiverse and all-powerful villains like Zamasu. But in DBZ there were a lot more consecuences to the actions of the characters. When a character got killed off, it would sometimes take an entire arc before he was brought back. The Dragon Balls were often written out of the plot in order to temporarily remove this Deus Ex Machina. On top of that, Toriyama very cleverly made Goku absent during battle as much as he could, which made the villains more menacing. DBS has a huge disadvantage when it comes to stakes. It takes place during the 10 year time skip between the Majin Buu arc and the end of DBZ. Therefore we know every single issue of every single arc will inevitably be resolved.
@98Supremee4 жыл бұрын
I agree but as the audience we all know everything is going to be alright in the end for the Z warriors regardless because the show is based of the dragon balls lol plus the writers know they can't kill off an important character because the backlash would be so unbearable to the point that they would just think of a way to write them back into the plot. Remember when Goku died the second time and Toriyama was ready to pass the torch to Gohan? Fans resented the idea. It's not about knowing that things will be resolved, that's common sense. It's about how are things going to be resolved. For instance, we all knew that Goku Black would be defeated eventually but the fan base were just wondering how and who he is. The whole Dragon Ball franchise is essentially Goku's story so in the back of our heads we know that our heroes will prevail some how so I don't think DBS suffers from that at all. You could say that it's a detrimental to the tension but that's how its always been in my opinion.
@Pssybart4 жыл бұрын
@@98Supremee I also agree with most of your points (though the part about Toriyama backing out from making Gohan the main character because of fan backlash is mostly a myth), but I still maintain that DB and DBZ handled the stakes better. Sure, we always knew things would turn out well eventually. But Toriyama, at his prime, knew how to keep his fans guessing. He would kill off Shenlong halfway through an arc, kill off Piccolo and Kami and even temporarily kill off Goku. DBS doesn't really have lasting consequences throughout different arcs. The writers could've pulled some serious mindfucks like having Universe 7 lose the Tournament of Power, only to reveal that there actually is a state of Limbo after a universe gets erased by Zeno. That way the main characters could spend another arc trying to restore their own existance. My entire point is that scale is not the most important factor in raising the stakes in Dragon Ball. What matters more is creativity and risk taking.
@98Supremee4 жыл бұрын
Sandro Algra Barradas I agree bro but I believe Super did have a select few moments like that when the viewers were caught off guard. I’d say Hit killing Goku ( even if it was momentary) was like a mindfuck because it was so unexpected, for me at least. At that time people didn’t know what to expect during the re match so it was like “ woah wtf he killed Goku ? “ but I absolutely agree that U7 losing the ToP would’ve been a complete twist and I personally wish that they would’ve went down that route but the twist at the end of ep. 130 was exceptional where we all found out 17 survived his sacrificial suicide attempt and it was like woahhh this dude is alive wtf ?!?! but you made great points and I do believe there needs to be more of these engaging moments when Super comes back if it does.
@chocolatesensei56484 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish they did more things that seemed weird for certain characters like Goku reading minds Vegeta raising rocks out of the ground
@SakuraAvalon4 жыл бұрын
chocolate sensei sama i imagine that high Ki levels allow people to access psychic powers. Though, they kinda dropped this after the Freeza saga. With the exception of Freeza still doing it now and then.
@quanturiaowens26434 жыл бұрын
@@SakuraAvalon No they don't dumbfuck they just help you use lasers and blast and shit
@neoanimefreak_76064 жыл бұрын
@@quanturiaowens2643 You can channel your ki into inanimate objects and move them.
@quanturiaowens26434 жыл бұрын
@@neoanimefreak_7606 Actually ki doesn't allow that but helps you create traps,weapons,lasers and more! Unless you're frieza, it doesn't apply to goku in any way , and also before you try to say some shit like that use actual evidence, like come on,how can you use raw power to read minds?or telekanisis ? Or even seeing through illusions? Explain that.
@neoanimefreak_76064 жыл бұрын
@@quanturiaowens2643 Can't read minds, but you can read a persons aura and get things off them, nothing like mind reading but yeah. And you can manipulate things with your ki, people even do it in real life. Illusions are just when you get right down to it, tricks of the mind. Just like how you can use your ki on things, you can use your ki on your surroundings.
@user-kj7ju3wt6p11 ай бұрын
I prefer dbs over dbz because i wasn’t born but i cant argue that dbz is a classic
@jugnu9a4 жыл бұрын
Did- did this guy just say that kaioken and ultra instinct are transformations? I want whatever it is that he's smoking
@user-zz8ye7gc4r3 жыл бұрын
He meant to say "Goku is now able to stack his KK on top of SSJB". Also, Autonomous Ultra Instinct is a Technique for the Gods. Mortals like Goku have to undergo a transformation in order to obtain the form. Gods like beerus can easily activate Ultra instinct at will (Manga).
@user-zz8ye7gc4r3 жыл бұрын
Ultra Instinct Gods = Technique Mortals = Next Level/Form
@ailon924 жыл бұрын
The thing it did worse: Why and how are there only 28 Planets with mortals in the universe? Is Freezers Empire supposed to be so small?
@Gargoyle_754 жыл бұрын
ailon92 - They did not say there were only 28 planets, but 28 planets with life. Not difficult to imagine that Freezer could have asked life to be wipe out on some planets or even destroyed some.
@chrislemon52214 жыл бұрын
And I just realized this video was only posted 26 min ago
@feath15574 жыл бұрын
And i just realized this comment was only made 26 min ago
@sarahanime99474 жыл бұрын
Hour kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKihdLyXl7vbpHU.html
@kevthejust55684 жыл бұрын
1 day
@hiphopforlife75024 жыл бұрын
Super is actually waaaaaaay funnier than Dragon ball z
@okuhlegumede15984 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ilikesandwiches73373 жыл бұрын
@TFK RMN don't even try to be salty
@jimmy86883 жыл бұрын
Super is not nearly as trashy as z
@SIRDADDYSENPAI4 жыл бұрын
Hang on, the reason Goku lost control of his ki was due to combining super sayain blue with kioken times 20 which is a risky power boost not because of a baseball match it was when universe 7 and 6 had a small tournament
@SIRDADDYSENPAI4 жыл бұрын
Ultra instinct isn't a form it is a technique
@Ajz0923 жыл бұрын
So I clicked on this to have a good laugh, but what I got wasn't laughs. Literally everything this guy said was wrong and infuriating instead. Compared to Super, Z had no faults at all. Notice what I just said. COMPARED TO SUPER, Z had no faults. In reality, Z absolutely had flaws, but Super as a whole was flawed from the beginning and only got worse until it ended. I actually could sit here and go though every single point and explain why it's wrong, but let's be real...no one is going to read it. Honestly, even GT is better. Much better in fact. GT also had major flaws, but nowhere near as much as Super. DBS was so bad that it actually made some people watch GT and they came out and said "Oh. You know what? It's not as bad as I thought.". That's right. DBS made GT better than what people thought for those who actually watched it. I don't hate Super by any means...but it could have been SO much better than what it was. Not better than Z for what we were given, but better than what we got.
@factsbeatfeeelings2 жыл бұрын
Super at least made a lot more sense than z did for me.
@theterminator95274 жыл бұрын
What about everything Z does better than super?
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham60974 жыл бұрын
That would take years to explain
@AhsimNreiziev4 жыл бұрын
That would defeat the point of the entire video. It's much more interesting to point out the things the perceived inferior series does better than the perceived superior series, than it is to do the reverse.
@darkpandalord38444 жыл бұрын
Literally everyone is saying that Z is better than Super. I mean, come on, Z isn't love and life. It's not just Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z all the time. At least give some room to point out the more unpopular opinions and perceptions. Like, for example, this video.
@galacticmaui2 Жыл бұрын
I think DBS increases the scale but not stakes.
@romanimations71083 жыл бұрын
The animation for super was always good to me, but the T.O.P. and The Broly Movie were eye candy.
@kylemayo27214 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy for more Dragon Ball....
@TheUltimateRare4 жыл бұрын
right? ENough of this hate Nonsense, just stop talking about super if they hate it so much, they don't have to worry about it. i don't even see much people talk about GT, cause they grew up and got over themselves.
@mattbarlow13984 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I came on here to say. Best thing about Super is that we got more Dragon Ball. Let's just enjoy it for what it is. As shitty as GT was, it was a further Dragon Ball fix. And Super is a massive improvement on GT
@UnifiedEntity4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbarlow1398 Oh hell no it aint
@anastasiocatalan4164 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Trunks hasn’t accented to a God level, when he was just as strong as Goku and Vageta in the Cell Games! What’s going on with Toriyama?
@whitedeath94 жыл бұрын
Beerus and the Supreme Kai died in his timeline so there was no way he could have learned about God ki and thus how to ascend to God level.
@jameshollister82942 жыл бұрын
@@whitedeath9 he could of learned it in the past
@3bay4 жыл бұрын
I want a Series about TRUNKS AND GOTEN, MAYBE EVEN THE OTHERS It’d still have the adults and all playing roles but it’d have them all Atleast from ages 15-18
@iainsmit118 Жыл бұрын
Dragonball z showed more growth and made fan hope and dream more. I disagree with all your points about super as it just copied dragonballz and really never understood why they did what they did. My opinion.
@rapidoreatg64604 жыл бұрын
dragon ball super is far better animated than dbz
@tanusrichandra62862 жыл бұрын
Are u blind?
@BatmanPops4 жыл бұрын
50 things Dragon Ball Z does better than Dragon Ball Super LOL 😂
@bullymaguire67224 жыл бұрын
Natsu Dragneel 「AMV」 GT trash asf😂😂
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
@Natsu Dragneel 「AMV」 gt trash Fuck out of here
@lolcall52954 жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-777 yeah gt is trash but dbs is just pure shit.
@TheUltimateRare4 жыл бұрын
well everything has to have haters, yet Super is loved by a pretty sizeable group, just as it's hated.
@SonGoku-7774 жыл бұрын
@@TheUltimateRare true
@bigmike47583 жыл бұрын
Thanks to DB Super, we now know that Goku eats horse meat. No wonder he is so strong.
@sugondeez1708 Жыл бұрын
For fucks sake, more ppl that misunderstand z broly
@joshuaperry24264 жыл бұрын
This video must have been really hard to make lmao
@TehWhiteTiger4 жыл бұрын
I was skepticle there were this many things 'better' but I admit most of this was true except comparing a 2019 full funded movie's animation to a 1990s anime.. especially when most of supers actual animation is awful with next to no fight choreography at all.
@DF9000k Жыл бұрын
When he was talking about forms man showed super saiyan 1 twice and got away with it
@UndeadScourge4 жыл бұрын
I love how Vegeta lightened up a bit
@mattjm21124 жыл бұрын
14:57 Man talk about best for Last. You’re right pal, I don’t care what anyone says. Caulifla and Kale are indeed the best thing to come out of Dragon Ball Super.
@TheUltimateRare4 жыл бұрын
they are alright, I like Hit and some of the neat fighters near the end better though. those 2 girls were basically a stepping stone to show off what goku can do now, rather than being important. if they get more screen time in a future saga, maybe that will change.
@scottkoppinger25954 жыл бұрын
Why? The cheapened going Super Saiyan..."oh look It took me 10 minutes to do this thing, it took these people all their lives to accomplish and before that generations of Saiyans weren't able to do, but...WE know about the tingling and can do it in a few minutes!"...It's stupid, and I understand why they did it, but it doesn't make sense
@newerax10094 жыл бұрын
Lol how??
@midhunmohan86274 жыл бұрын
DBZ was/is/always will be the best 😌
@British-Patriot4 жыл бұрын
@Ultra Dragon Ball I prefer dbs
@radiant_action06854 жыл бұрын
Putting a one hour time limit on the potara, was a dumb idea because it totally shits on the fusion dance now there is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to use it ever again
@craigpeoples98834 жыл бұрын
Facts
@dontbecomelgbt4 жыл бұрын
Go watch it
@amandabruffee18012 жыл бұрын
Without even watching...the 15 things Super did better....was nothing