15th All Japan 8-dan Kendo Championships - Final

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7 жыл бұрын

Nakamura Sports Center, Nagoya
Sunday April 16, 2017
K8-dan Tani Katsuhiko (Gunma) vs. K8-dan Miyazaki Masahiro (Kanagawa)

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@berserkercookie2645
@berserkercookie2645 3 жыл бұрын
Now the sentence "A sword duel between masters only takes a second" makes way more sense. Imagine them a few hundred years back with real swords. Over before you can even blink.
@lostpockets2227
@lostpockets2227 5 жыл бұрын
That was actually really impressive, I understand what is the skill behind the art now.
@ardanyilmaz8652
@ardanyilmaz8652 3 жыл бұрын
Shouting?
@sleepingturtle32
@sleepingturtle32 3 жыл бұрын
True, this is incredibly high level though. It takes around 35-40 years to get to this point.
@Renekor
@Renekor Жыл бұрын
@@sleepingturtle32 what? ._.
@rovjulol
@rovjulol 2 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@c4s4n0v44
@c4s4n0v44 4 жыл бұрын
they should learn ichimonji double, it's useful for regaining posture!
@idontgiveacare9211
@idontgiveacare9211 4 жыл бұрын
Klemen Škoberne He was referencing a game called Sekiro...
@BlacktulipSF
@BlacktulipSF 2 жыл бұрын
Red is extremely cool and in balance, I like him
@sceptic_thinking
@sceptic_thinking 8 ай бұрын
I wish there was someone to review this to us. Honestly, so much of it doesn’t make sense to me.
@maximo341000
@maximo341000 7 жыл бұрын
Oka. : ) ...
@raffaelemartini3684
@raffaelemartini3684 7 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to note that they use a lot of sanpomamori
@jamieg2427
@jamieg2427 6 жыл бұрын
That's what she said.
@eezonbass
@eezonbass 6 ай бұрын
Someone farted @4:32 😂
@catheadmoon
@catheadmoon Жыл бұрын
I think those are lighter than light sabers except for yodas...
@diptoprovas7090
@diptoprovas7090 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why only the last hit counted, because I, who has never practised kendo (my only knowledge of kendo comes from KZfaq videos) does not understand why all the other strikes that seem like hits to me did not count
@Blubber4444
@Blubber4444 4 жыл бұрын
They need to do 3 things at the same time to hit. 1.) Hit with the Shinai (Bamboo-Sword) at one of the 4 Hit-Zones (Men, Kote, Do, Tsuki) 2.) They need to use the Voice at the same time, screaming what they are trying to hit 3.) They also must do a Foot-Stamp at the same time, called Fumikomi
@DangDutHomeboy
@DangDutHomeboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blubber4444 I practice kendo for a year or two now, and I still don't know how shiro achieved that ippon. For an 8-Dan tournament, that strike shouldn't count cos it barely hit. What my sensei told me is that a true strike comes from power and accuracy. That ippon lacks both of them though.
@egehannalbant5572
@egehannalbant5572 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very simple explanation of kikentai ichi ; in more detail : Ki (Mind/Spirit) - Show that they are in control, that they aren't taken by hesitation, fear, doubt, panic. That is done through a shout (kiai). Ken (Sword) - Use the shinai in a correct manner. That means correct edge-alingment (Hasuji) ; sufficient power to cut (Sae) ; using the correct part of the shinai (Mono-uchi). Tai (Body) - Using correct body mechanics and posture. Fumikomi is not actually a requirement, it is just one of the correct methods. I'd also add to that Zanshin ; keeping focus and being able to react even after you have hit.
@minkyupark6130
@minkyupark6130 Жыл бұрын
There's also details such as, 1. it's harder to gain a point with strikes as you are going backwards 2. you cannot lose balance during the strike, 3. when going for wriest especially judges don't give points for wriest hit that is done out of the blue. For example, if you show you're going for the head, your opponent try to block, then you go for the wriest instead, you're more likely to get the point for the wriest. 4. Also japanese judges are extra stricter on all these requirements than other international judges. Basically the judges are looking for the most perfect clean hit, especially because it's a match between 8dans. Honestly it's so complicated, I don't know the exact exact reason the points were not given.
@channeldud
@channeldud 10 ай бұрын
People here are explaining kendo rules, but don't seem to be answering your question. The 3 points listed is true. But what qualified the last strike as a valid point is probably because the striker successfully managed to perform zanshin. Basically he successfully followed through with his attack, preventing a successful counterattack from his opponent. While the previous attempts, his opponent consistently invalidated the successful hits by keeping his shinai in contact with the neck, face. Usually it has to be the neck as in directly at the throat for the strike to be invalidated, but the overall uncleanliness of the situation and the fact that this is 8dan probably meant judges were stricter.
@melange28
@melange28 7 жыл бұрын
Correction needed on the video --- Miyazaki-sensei is wearing the white tasuki.
@rfoxmich
@rfoxmich 6 жыл бұрын
Well yes and his opponent is Tani sensei not Ishida sensei.
@BenEmberley
@BenEmberley 4 жыл бұрын
@@rfoxmich Katsuhiko Tani Sensei??
@MatheusRebelo
@MatheusRebelo 7 жыл бұрын
how this wasn't a kote D: 12:03
@udoudo3
@udoudo3 7 жыл бұрын
because he moved his shinai back i guess
@polouninterhervaldoeste5596
@polouninterhervaldoeste5596 7 жыл бұрын
that is the zanshin. Should be right. But is a fair point
@hiraethia8419
@hiraethia8419 7 жыл бұрын
looks like it hit with the side of the shinai
@MatheusRebelo
@MatheusRebelo 7 жыл бұрын
may be it actually
@aarondoeskendo8359
@aarondoeskendo8359 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a couple reasons are: It hit with the very-very tip of the shinai on the correct part of the kote (datotsubui wasn't hit with an ideal enough part pf the datotsubu), the set-up or reasoning behind the kote wasn't good enough (riai), the kote didn't appear planned. I'm like most people. I wish I could see the shinpan's reasoning for giving points just to know more about the complexity and thought behind it.
@alexisgibson6545
@alexisgibson6545 11 ай бұрын
Kendo 🧠
@JPNOMIKATA
@JPNOMIKATA 6 жыл бұрын
3:55の谷先生のメン、アレ有りじゃないの?完全に見逃しだろう…
@JPNOMIKATA
@JPNOMIKATA 6 жыл бұрын
見終わって改めて思ったけどこの審判最悪。
@sonphan8174
@sonphan8174 5 жыл бұрын
Do these masters fight with different weapons or they spend their whole life fighting with people who use the weapon that has the same reach and mass as their? Having only habits of fighting the weapon that has the same reach and mass is not a good idea. They fight very well when facing the weapon they are familiar with but if the opponent use a longer weapon or a heavier weapon or both, these masters can be in trouble. Habits are good but also are misleading.
@MrEndermanHunter
@MrEndermanHunter 3 жыл бұрын
But the point of Kendo, as far as i understand it, is to practice your whole life to be perfekt in this one discipline not to be a alround swordmaster/fighter.
@sleepingturtle32
@sleepingturtle32 3 жыл бұрын
It’s kendo, not kenjutsu, it’s meant to be a sport, this probably applies to kenjutsu though
@m.antonioriosortiz7286
@m.antonioriosortiz7286 2 ай бұрын
Do football players with balls of different size, shape and weight? If they are only familiar kicking football balls, they will be in trouble when facing another team bouncing an American football egg and trying to pass it over the net.
@trefod
@trefod 3 жыл бұрын
This is ritualized into obscurity. It looks great and all, but I simply don't get it.
@MrEndermanHunter
@MrEndermanHunter 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean exactly?
@sleepingturtle32
@sleepingturtle32 3 жыл бұрын
?
@fabianmartin7126
@fabianmartin7126 4 ай бұрын
You simply don’t get it. You may or may not try to learn about it, or keep thinking that “this is ritualized into obscurity”.
@PoonDestruction
@PoonDestruction 3 жыл бұрын
i dont understand what happened and why the guy with the white cloth won? why do they almost never continue attacking after the first altercation? as an uneducated observer this looks closer to tai-chi with sticks and fancy clothes than a viable martial art. i know this is a popular sport in japan so i hope i didnt offend anybody as this was not my intent.
@abrokeengineer967
@abrokeengineer967 3 жыл бұрын
You got this wrong, this is a sport, a derivative from a martial art (kenjutsu). Kendo itself is not intended as martial art, though you will find high rank members are also trained in the martial arts form.
@zenithktk
@zenithktk 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a disgusting action to just pull his shinai the other man’s throat. When defeat to seme, it means lose. Miyazaki sensu’s playing is really great nevertheless MEN did not hit perfectly. When win the SEME, the game is over.
@P.Pran.P
@P.Pran.P 5 жыл бұрын
correct me if i'm wrong here because I don't know that much about Kendo. Surely preforming a Mukae-zuki in this situation is acceptable due to the fact that both of them are 8-dan and would know how to deliver and receive a tsuki without injury?
@SilentAdventurer
@SilentAdventurer 3 жыл бұрын
@@P.Pran.P you are correct.
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