17.5 freshy tips from Micheal the motor guy

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7 жыл бұрын

I brought over a freshy cheap $10 dollar motor to Micheal. He lead me through on what to do to a motor when you first get it. For example my motor came from the factory with no play in it at all.
First he Checks the play and oils the bearings in the motor before really tuning it up.
Also he put the motor on a analizer to get my timing just right. Right at 6 amps
He stated " never trust the timing Marks on the motor" you need to analize the motor to get the true timing.
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Пікірлер: 81

@LuisA1Million 3 жыл бұрын

WOW! Talk about keeping the hobby alive!! This guy is just awesome!!

@The_Absurdistt 3 жыл бұрын

Good on Micbael for helping indiscriminately. He and others like him are the soul of our great hobby.

@rcvitals 2 жыл бұрын

Yes they are, sorry for late response.

@BigAndy80sGen 2 ай бұрын

I like this guy 👍😁👍

@TE-ni7em 2 жыл бұрын

Good man there's alot good people like him at the race tracks

@rcvitals 2 жыл бұрын

Yes he is, he knows his stuff. Onroad racing, when it comes to motors and batteries is far ahead of offroad. But he took the time to tune a 17.5 for me. At the time I didn't know it was that far in depth. Thank you soo much for watching means alot.

@eaglespetty 7 жыл бұрын

l love this guy's attitude! Always help out your fellow racers as it will provide them more enjoymentband keep them in the hobby.

@RcOffroad9513 Жыл бұрын

Great video bro, trying to learn some more about these little motors! Great info 👍

@edzinator 7 жыл бұрын

good work Micheal

@charvelgaming2975 6 жыл бұрын

Nice demo thanks for sharing this video

@rcvitals 6 жыл бұрын

+Mark Carvalho Thanks soo much mark

@lukeslambo983 4 жыл бұрын

Good video Mike you are good guy

@chriscordasco5449 7 жыл бұрын

Good Video, and way to represent this sport / hobby Michael !!

@teamcrc1 Жыл бұрын

Apparently Michael is unaware of the fact that you can adjust the timing on the motor while it is running.

@charlesyoung8600 3 жыл бұрын

That's what rc is all about!!!

@thecman26 6 жыл бұрын

It may sound crazy but my cheap $25 Trackstar motor has the closest sensor board nunbers! Only 2 degrees between 1,2,and 3... My Fantom isn't even close to that but is a bit stronger though! A motor analyzer is a nice tool to have!

@erikayang8071 5 жыл бұрын

Those numbers mean nothing on an un-loaded motor. A high Kv motor will not show good symmetry without a load.

@neontetra1000 5 жыл бұрын

thecman26 nothing wrong with trackstar bro. Turnigy batteries, trackstar motors and hobbywing before they became expensive

@sd_rcfanatic157 2 жыл бұрын

May I know why aiming for 6amp draw?

@prestigemechanical1145 5 жыл бұрын

The bench readings of amperage performed in this video are not accurate, also does not show the peak voltage and amperage or what the sine wave is to understand the load “motor”. The motor is also not under a load and the amp draw will change as the motor takes on heat. Save your money on that motor tester and buy a Fluke 87V and also a Fluke A3002 FC Wireless AC/DC Current Module. The current module is a data logger and can be used with the Fluke Connect application so you get real live data. I don’t advise using the module during a race as it’s extra weight, but for knowing what’s going on with your motor I have yet to see anyone roll like this but I also fix residential and commercial motors and understand a multimeter which I suggest everyone knows how to do when playin around with electronics. Hope this helps ; )

@TheSuperandresini 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, Some questions to Micheal , i am using a brushless motor checker it can read Current (amps), Volts, RPMs and KVs, no Timming.... 1. What Current do you recommend for a 25.5T for better perfomance (maclan mrr motor) to be use in Formula 1 class? 2. What Current do you recommend for a 21.5T for better perfomance (maclan mrr motor) to be use in touring blinky class? 3. What Current do you recommend for a 17.5T for better perfomance (Team Orion VST2 pro motor) to use in touring blinky class?

@michaelfrench9597 7 жыл бұрын

with the orion 17.5 i push the timing to about 6-6.5 amps and that is in blinky mode: 21.5 with i have the same motor but the team ed. i have it up to 4.5-5 amps but it is 50 degree on can: now with 25.5 mrr with i have im still working on that sill a work in progress.....

@TheSuperandresini 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@michaelfrench9597 7 жыл бұрын

superandresini to answer your question on the 25.5T motor for the f1 car i would leave the timing right were it is cause Y don"t the the drive train as a tc car. F1 car are a direct drive and it a lighter car. I may go up only 5 more degree's at he most, all I would do is just gear the hell out of it but have a fan on the car

@waynerc2420 4 жыл бұрын

That is awesome

@waynerc2420 4 жыл бұрын

Wish we had a guy around that do this

@garysampo4135 4 жыл бұрын

thank you

@rcvitals 4 жыл бұрын

You welcome

@mattleonard5268 5 жыл бұрын

I wish someone would tune and setup my motor for drag racing

@Ultegra10SPD 4 ай бұрын

…and this is stock folks. Go mod or go home. Now waitin for 1st track/shop to burn down bc they pull stock batts down at 40a and up on 70amps!!! Nuts. -U10

@neontetra1000 5 жыл бұрын

You know this guy could just loosen the cover and turn the timing sensor whilst the motor is running rather than keep unscrewing it and guessing.

@charlesabrownjr.2875 5 жыл бұрын

I spent 21 min thinking the same thing only to read this, idn wanna be a dick though he may know now... 🤔👍🤣

@JEPHRO760 4 жыл бұрын

Regardless of his methods compared to yours this guy is the kind of people this hobby needs. Too many guys won't help newbs because there affraid of new compitition.

@tiny180 3 жыл бұрын

@@JEPHRO760 you said it Im not in the rc racing but I do race my sprint car and every year we get a new kid or team and no one will help with even tire pressure it's sad I'm the first one over there shit I'll even lend out my spare motor if it gets them in the race and if they beat me good on them I'll get them next run I'm in it for fun and to win but you need to have guys to run with to win and I'd rather have side by side racing than just walking away with it

@xrayray3d192 3 жыл бұрын

Timing goes off when you tighten the screws. It will change as you cinch it down.

@rccarloverluxembourg718 Жыл бұрын

@@tiny180 yeah, I ruined my summer in modified after being national champion. The guy I bought the car was champion in modified, he knew his car by heart. 1 year later he told me he would not know the car anymore as he does not drive it. 3 other racers also knew the car or would have had the skills to have a look at my diff. Noone helped me. I ruined all 5 races. Later I found out one shim was put the wrong side in the diff. Then I was thrown back in beginners category, I stopped racing, began with painting, became alcoholic and a rc car collector :-) Ps: perhaps I put it in the wrong order: alcoholic and then I became an abstract painter

@jaimesonritter3375 4 жыл бұрын

This is what I do........ basically nothing....lube bearings and adjust timing........and slew a whole bunch of incoherent bullshit

@rclover828 7 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy the motor from?

@rcvitals 7 жыл бұрын

rclover828 a guy from china cuts me a deal on them. So for practice that's what I use. I save my race motors.

@sangamonriverrats6769 5 жыл бұрын

you're setting these motors up for a high amp draw .. large tracks .... on medium and smaller tracks, a lower amp draw is better because the torque is way better ...... timing on these are like the camshaft in a gas motor .. bigger cam more power, but a narrow power band at a higher rpm ... less is a wider more usable torque band.

@extec101 4 жыл бұрын

learned something new.

@edwinwx260 4 жыл бұрын

Yep timing just adjust where the power is, not how much power it has

@jstump1972 4 жыл бұрын

Does that motor analyzer do 1/8 motors too?

@rcvitals 4 жыл бұрын

Naw I think its for 1/10th scale motors

@jstump1972 4 жыл бұрын

@@rcvitals thanks

@jamesbimmer7321 6 жыл бұрын

What current draw would you suggest for 7.5T and 10.5T motors?

@michaelfrench9597 6 жыл бұрын

with a 7.5T I would leave it right where it is, (alot of motor), for the 10.5T no more then 40 degree's just keep checking the temps after each run no more then 170 degree's on that motor

@bobedwards5137 6 жыл бұрын

James Bimmerl

@bobedwards5137 6 жыл бұрын

You to say them KZfaq

@JoyGadang 2 жыл бұрын

nice guys.. rec button push..

@jaimesonritter3375 4 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me how to check for "legit timing" ?

@tropicthunderbolt 3 жыл бұрын

U need a motor analyzer

@jaimesonritter3375 2 жыл бұрын

@@tropicthunderbolt no way !!!!!

@dogman_ 3 жыл бұрын

Who tunes your motors in NC?

@rcvitals 3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Stafford. TS3Motors. He's who I get my motors from and tuned right now.

@dogman_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@rcvitals Does he have a website? Thanks

@tHe_ViL1aiN 7 жыл бұрын

sub'ed

@jpaez82 2 жыл бұрын

Is Michael still around?

@rcvitals 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know, we lost contact since speed rc closed. He knows his stuff. He is really a onroad guy.

@prestigemechanical1145 5 жыл бұрын

Fluke A3002 FC Wireless AC/DC Current Module weighs 9oz just to let you know. Data logging is what’s up !

@teamcrc1 5 жыл бұрын

This kid is hilarious! He gets his "Motor building" skills from Nick Adams on you tube. 6 amps Lol That motor analyzer is junk too.

@coryjamesc 3 жыл бұрын

instead of talking shit why dont you explain it better for people..

@teamcrc1 3 жыл бұрын

@@coryjamesc Well, first off I wouldn't prop the guys motor up on the analyzer and check it for sound. He tells the guy his motor is LOUD, then puts his motor on the analyser and pulls the cigarette box out to show him how quite it is? I could go on and on but you probably wouldn't understand.

@Synic08 4 ай бұрын

I dont think amps is as important as temp.

@aerialwheel3719 7 жыл бұрын

don't they still sell factory tuned motors??? in the days of brushed motors, you would run them right out of the package. that's what the $100 price tag was for!!!

@rcvitals 7 жыл бұрын

aerial wheel hey aerial. yea they do. now its called certified. you get a print of the numbers of what the motor is doing. same numbers that micheal is showing in the video. bit yea back in the day thr pros got the top pick of brushes and motors. same as today. bit it sames that the playing field between pros and joes is soo close that the pros dont really have a advantage. thank you aerial for tuning in and commenting.

@KHeidendal 5 жыл бұрын

he is not really careful with his stuff

@mikegilson4194 6 жыл бұрын

Those motors analyzers are cheap and very in accurate and if u gotta set a motor to 6 amps to get power start finding a better motor company!

@beckieotis191 7 жыл бұрын

This guy doesn't know what he is doing.

@teamcrc1 7 жыл бұрын

How would I get my hands on one of those "medium" rotors that you speak of?

@michaelfrench9597 7 жыл бұрын

I depends on what motor, but all the company's have upgrade rotors :12.3 low,mid, high: 12.5 low,mid,high......

@michaelfrench9597 7 жыл бұрын

for right now put it at 40 degrees on can and y can play with the gearing better. After y make a run of 8 min. check the temp om motor, if it is 100-120 after 8 min and car is fast go up 5 degrees until the temps on motor is about 160 degrees NO more then 170 degrees

@NotJustAnotherCody 5 жыл бұрын

this guy is a ............

@Al3xisAE 7 жыл бұрын

I don't trust the timing numbers..... This motor has no timing numbers Lol

@michaelfrench9597 7 жыл бұрын

even with timing # I still don't trust it it is always off. The checker will give the exact timing on the motor

@dangrathwohl 4 жыл бұрын

Painful....

@joefussy11 4 жыл бұрын

So many keyboard warriors! So much hate. Hi pitch sound is picked up different over a mic. They are probably hearing something completely different to whats on KZfaq.