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17. OCD Treatment - Doing ERP with 'Pure O'

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Katie d'Ath

Katie d'Ath

Күн бұрын

CBT therapist Katie d'Ath explains how to do ERP when you don't have obvious compulsions. Katie offers individual therapy but you might also like to check out BetterHelp at betterhelp.com...
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@cameronclare5084
@cameronclare5084 6 жыл бұрын
My pure o has been so weak now for months, all thanks to your advice. You are a wonderful person, much love and respect.
@magnusg20
@magnusg20 4 жыл бұрын
cameron clare Nice to hear, Good job dude!
@DevSharma-xv7cv
@DevSharma-xv7cv 4 жыл бұрын
@cameron clare can you give some advice.
@sandipsubedi9131
@sandipsubedi9131 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too but when i expose myself excessively, the anxiety returns but i am feeling better. A lot actually.
@sandipsubedi9131
@sandipsubedi9131 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayank66505 i know its gonna be hard at first and guilt may come with it but the more you expose yourself, the thought becomes less scary . You need to be the strongest when you are at your weakest. Expose yourself, talk to someone even to your family members about the thought you are getting. Believe me they will laugh. Keep pushing yourself. You will be free.
@sandipsubedi9131
@sandipsubedi9131 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayank66505 what particularly disturbs you just imagine that
@23katied
@23katied 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the confusion of the difference between learning to not pay attention to your thoughts - e.g through mindfulness and deliberately making them worse. I'll try and answer as clearly as possible. What we have to think about is what is the ultimate goal here? It's to get to the point where the thoughts can come and go and you can not care too much about them. With this in mind there are different ways of achieving this. One way is practicing mindfulness of some kind - through this you can help yourself learn that thoughts are just thoughts and you don't need to do anything about them. In OCD treatment we don't recommend any kind of brushing the thoughts away as this is a way of being in contact with them - we would rather recommend just letting the thought take care of itself while you pay attention to other things. This video is about doing DELIBERATE exposure to the thoughts - i.e doing something that exposes you to them and then potentially making them worse so you learn that you can cope with them. This helps you get to a point of caring less about them in the long run. HOWEVER - this is something you choose to practice - like going to the gym - we are not suggesting you do this every time a thought comes in. So to recap - you are doing ERP - perhaps on a daily basis for 15-30 minutes to learn you can cope with the thoughts and the feelings that come with them and the rest of the time you are practicing refocusing your attention on things other than the thoughts and letting them take care of themselves. I know this is easier said than done. I will be uploading videos on this in the next week or two.
@alvin55531
@alvin55531 2 жыл бұрын
If the compulsion is to analyze the thought, engage with the thought, or otherwise ruminate, what would be the "opposite" thing to do?
@dingdong436.
@dingdong436. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that plan is good!👌
@jamielawrence4749
@jamielawrence4749 Жыл бұрын
Excellent clarification thank you so much. I was curious what erp you'd recommend for intrusive suicidal thoughts? Intense self hatred etc. I know enough now that these are intrusive thoughts vs. that i will act on them but they really upset me.
@jamielawrence4749
@jamielawrence4749 Жыл бұрын
@@alvin55531 perhaps tell yourself there is no answer? I think what gets me when I am ruminating or trying to solve a thought is the idea it will help, because the idea that I CAN'T do something to help is actually more anxiety inducing. Just a guess. I wonder this too.
@alvin55531
@alvin55531 Жыл бұрын
@@jamielawrence4749 I'm pretty sure I've done a compulsion that's basically that before: telling myself there is no solution. I end up telling myself that over and over.
@roosstockholm
@roosstockholm 7 жыл бұрын
I have been in therapy for my ocd, ten years ago. it was incredibly painful, but it worked and I was a long time free from my problems. Now I have had a lot of changes in my life, which creates OCD. I had forgotten what tools I had. This is a great reminder. Thank you again.
@trangvo2318
@trangvo2318 7 жыл бұрын
was your ocd completely removed by therapy treatment ? i am also suffering from ocd for almost 4 years ,it's a very painful experience .Hope can get response from you
@omarrahman140
@omarrahman140 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same kind, the orderly ocd or something. I always wanted the things to remain the same, in the exact same place otherwise it used to mess up my mind. I always avoided any kind of change in the setting of my room. Thanks to your vedio, it has improved a huge lot. Love and respect, may god bless you, Kate
@ljnv
@ljnv 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly the same Didn't have any issues for 10 years . I'm getting better but I think It's gonna take another 6 months to get better, I'm dealing with depression at the same time
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you are now ? Many thanks
@JustinSmith-jy8gb
@JustinSmith-jy8gb 10 ай бұрын
Same. I got over my ocd but i had a flare up last month after going thru major life changes (moving to a new city, starting college, doing risky things) and so im also reworking the steps and resharpening the tools. Ocd is chronic but we can always rmemeber how we got over it and apply the same steps 🙏🏼
@alicoin8773
@alicoin8773 7 жыл бұрын
You are helping people like me with crippling ocd and I cant thank you enough for it.
@mariewasinger1507
@mariewasinger1507 8 жыл бұрын
I really like how you include examples about things OCD people consider to be taboo. Because a lot of the treatment process I feel is about overcoming or getting past the idea that certain intrusive thoughts are not to be talked about, and therefore, they must go away on their own. That is a huge issue I faced personally and this video was actually really reassuring. Thank you for your videos, Katie.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on, cheers
@rohitpriyadarshi7709
@rohitpriyadarshi7709 3 жыл бұрын
Katie your videos have changed my life althrough I have been fighting and almost Living most unsuccessful life , I wud run away from situations instead of facing them , OCD made me mockery in public and my life was not more than a joke , rituals , fear and anxiety now I can actually feel life changing
@carterman4689
@carterman4689 Ай бұрын
I hope you know this video is still helping people 12 years later
@scagliobest1612
@scagliobest1612 3 күн бұрын
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@carterman4689
@carterman4689 3 күн бұрын
@@scagliobest1612what the fuck your right
@roosstockholm
@roosstockholm 7 жыл бұрын
I am so incredibly grateful for this. You can not imagine how much it did for me today. All my gratitude to you. You are an angel
@mkmllrc
@mkmllrc 3 жыл бұрын
I finally overcame this in just 1 month, I appreciate your help for people like us
@kanakchaturvedi939
@kanakchaturvedi939 2 жыл бұрын
How plz explained
@mkmllrc
@mkmllrc 2 жыл бұрын
@@kanakchaturvedi939 when thoughts arise, even it feel like hell of uncomfortable. let it pass dont interact with it
@usha6844
@usha6844 2 жыл бұрын
@@mkmllrc how I don't knw
@moulee7448
@moulee7448 2 жыл бұрын
Greattt
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hiya mate, did you get over this fully just need a bit of reassurance, cheers
@adriangucovschi7418
@adriangucovschi7418 6 жыл бұрын
People, please don’t get confused: when she says “special ingredient” all she means is that in addition to not engaging in your ordinarily compulsion after being triggered, you should immediately engage in further purposeful exposure- so if your trigger is an image you want to get rid off, you should resist the avoidance behavior and further amplify the image; and if you’re thought is a doubt, you should leave the doubt unresolved and consciously enumerate and elucidate the possible consequences of leaving the doubt unresolved (e.g., perpetual confusion or being gay forever without knowing it or living with unrecognized urges to kill your loved on or never getting cured from ocd because you’re not doing the therapy correctly).
@23katied
@23katied 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you that's a good clarification.
@Dinoattack100
@Dinoattack100 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian, that's pretty useful explanation.
@Dinoattack100
@Dinoattack100 2 жыл бұрын
Really helps actually because when @Katie d'Ath says do the opposite of what the OCD wants it's slightly confusing, as the OCD obviously wants you to engage with it further. To do the opposite would be to ignore it. It would be clearer to say 'make the OCD worse' or do the opposite of what YOU want, ie resist your normal responses.
@galaxy6plus58
@galaxy6plus58 4 жыл бұрын
I hope u r aware of how many people you are helping with these videos. I am very grateful to you.
@blarghnofreenames
@blarghnofreenames 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for you help psychiatrist tina fey, just subbed now x
@vijoyjoseph9734
@vijoyjoseph9734 8 жыл бұрын
You are lighting up again, the blown away candles. thanks Katie.
@gaurangeegattani8766
@gaurangeegattani8766 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are like a boon! Thank you so much for clearing out my doubts. Of course, It will take time for me to follow them but I'm gonna be strong! More power to OCD Sufferers like me!
@mhassan204
@mhassan204 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah did you?
@gaurangeegattani8766
@gaurangeegattani8766 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I did!
@sanjayk1199
@sanjayk1199 3 жыл бұрын
Where r u from? India?
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers x
@taljabyad
@taljabyad 8 жыл бұрын
May God protect you and your family Katie...
@enigma8147
@enigma8147 Ай бұрын
You cured me. I cannot express my gratitude in words. God bless you
@TheGreatDigitalism
@TheGreatDigitalism Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. OCD is a horrible affliction, but as I age the grip it has on me lessens more and more; your advice helps a lot.
@gina333
@gina333 3 жыл бұрын
You should've carried on with your channel. It's amazing.
@Pedro-ds3cq
@Pedro-ds3cq 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are working as a complementary therapy for me! And they are doing wonders!
@donaldr.3656
@donaldr.3656 3 жыл бұрын
It took me a year to buy into what you taught in this video. I finally listened closely & applied it & i feel hopeful. This may help. Thank u so much.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
How did you get on with this just starting my journey
@mihaibadic1504
@mihaibadic1504 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for all of your videos, they are really touching and improving people's lives, I found them very helpful and found myself thinking of bits in them over and over again, even as someone who has researched this stuff loads before. Thank you!
@t091293
@t091293 6 жыл бұрын
You are a life saver, Ms. d'Ath, I owe you my FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers ?
@danielwalker6436
@danielwalker6436 5 жыл бұрын
It can be difficult to spot all compulsive reactions e.g. avoidance or mental argument. ERP, ACT, mindfulness are brilliant.
@TomMFAO
@TomMFAO 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, this is an aspect of ERP not spoken about much so thanks for bringing it forward :D
@iluvj50
@iluvj50 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Shocking how many OCD sufferers are still unaware of this very effective technique. Videos like this are surely helping to spread the information to those who will benefit.
@dingdong436.
@dingdong436. 2 жыл бұрын
Thankz Katie for the Golden Rules of ERP😍 Definitely going to try.. Thank you very much again!❤️
@sleepy-cs7rx
@sleepy-cs7rx 5 жыл бұрын
You're a life saver ❤❤
@boahnxxstevennd37
@boahnxxstevennd37 2 жыл бұрын
I am in China, and there are many OCD patients here, but CBT and ERP treatment are not popularized in China. Many patients have been ill for more than 10 years, have not received effective treatment, and have given up their studies and jobs.
@theburningh3ll
@theburningh3ll 5 жыл бұрын
The problem that most OCD patients will find with this I'm sure is: ex. Harm OCD, be careful to not push your family off the stairs, (this ERP) pushes family off the stairs to make it feel worse (that's the opossite that OCD dictates). I can't be the only one finding this wrong, I think most people find ERP difficult to apply because of this thoughts.
@hektorfrisch4547
@hektorfrisch4547 5 жыл бұрын
The video is misleading for many people with Pure O because ERP is difficult to apply for them. CBT is better for people who struggle with rumination and bad thoughts.
@canigetawitness1992
@canigetawitness1992 5 жыл бұрын
The opposite technique is misleading. For all OCD themes, therapy should be about Experiencing the Obsessive Thoughts & Resisting the Compulsion NOT doing the opposite of what OCD wants you to do. This "magic ingredient" of doing the opposite is problematic and I don't blame you. We really shouldn't be doing anything with the intrusive thoughts.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers? X
@IanDavis
@IanDavis 10 ай бұрын
Watch the video before this. She explains that the actual fear you're experiencing in harm OCD is the fear of the urge / want itself, NOT actually doing the thing. So in that case, you would then expose yourself with the statements of urge & want, over and over, through writing or voice recordings, and then following through with the rest of the ERP protocols by avoiding compulsions.
@Christopherpototoy
@Christopherpototoy Жыл бұрын
maam i cannot do it i feel like im gonna pass out
@sukoelzorrocurioso5625
@sukoelzorrocurioso5625 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as a 10 year old boy, I watched the 1979 Amityville Horror movie, and it terrified me to the point where I could not shower alone or go to the restroom alone lest the black ooze came out of the sieves. Even going down the stairs was terrifying as it evoked the scene where George Lutz falls through the basement stairs into a pit of black ooze. But for some reason, I still liked the movie and watched it again,and again, and again, until it did not scare me at all but fascinated me. I even drew my parents nuts as allI could talk about was Amityville. I drew the house on my school notebooks, rewrote the story, and even researched more about the story and the case. So instead of avoiding the movie, I might have done ERP without knowing.
@shaikmohammad1072
@shaikmohammad1072 3 жыл бұрын
It makes us fearful and we our thoughts will get mooreeee hard in life.
@thekadju2450
@thekadju2450 4 жыл бұрын
many people don't understand the point of this,you all seem to be so worried about the thought and worried that the thought will continue to stay in your head.It's not the problem in the thought itself it's the anxiety connected to the thought,by relieving the anxiety from the thought , the thought doesn't feel dangerous anymore.if you are worried it's going to stay,ask yourself this. "does it matter if it stays if I don't feel any emotions towards it?"
@lumwong7237
@lumwong7237 11 ай бұрын
Hi Katie. Miss u so much❤ pls produce more videos for sufferers like us
@MrSrinivas77
@MrSrinivas77 5 жыл бұрын
Please try to explain how to treat sexual ocd
@anshu89
@anshu89 5 жыл бұрын
How do you not do mental compulsions? They just happen and are so automatic. Saying to yourself "don't think that" could become another compulsion on its own
@LoudPaintings
@LoudPaintings 4 жыл бұрын
@Νικόλας Σεργάκης I agree with this. In fact I actually ask myself for more anxiety. I know that seems weird. But I just think, okay this is just a temporary irrational state. Give me all the anxiety you can and I will take it and let it pass. Give me some more. Over time I will recognize there is nothing to fear here and it will go away. It really really sucks at first but I have found it helpful.
@LoudPaintings
@LoudPaintings 4 жыл бұрын
@Νικόλας Σεργάκης thanks so much man. God luck to you as well!
@Jim-cj2jn
@Jim-cj2jn 4 жыл бұрын
@Νικόλας Σεργάκης thanks man, fight compulsions not obsessions
@nicksenseitv4922
@nicksenseitv4922 4 жыл бұрын
@Νικόλας Σεργάκης i just watch the thoughts? what do i do with the thoughts? give them emotions? or just watch it? please reply.
@puppycat65481
@puppycat65481 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Katie, you're wonderful.
@silliestsharks111
@silliestsharks111 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question about this... I have been practicing meditation and mindfulness to help me with Pure O and it has helped to the point where I am now able to research it more fully without being afraid (hence, finding your video... Which actually my husband found a year ago and tried to get me to watch it but the whole idea of it was too much for me)... In many of your other videos, you tell us just to ignore the thought and in my meditation I am told to imagine brushing them lightly away with a feather but in this video it seems that I should be trying to intensify the thought, which feels more like engaging with it more rather than just ignoring it and letting it pass. I guess it just seems contradictory and I think I might be misunderstanding.
@mohammad81295
@mohammad81295 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna say, doing the opposite of what your ocd wants is like going to a dark place when you fear it so much, and after you go there a few times, you won't fear it anymore. It's almost the same with ocd, when you do the opposite of the compulsion that ocd wants you to do, you discredit the ocd and you start to let it go
@Ma-tu2jd
@Ma-tu2jd 4 жыл бұрын
Claire_TheCrazy hello. I think it depends on the ocd . Like I know my compulsion is rumination so I force myself to focus on the present moment and ignore the thoughts no matter what.
@nicksenseitv4922
@nicksenseitv4922 4 жыл бұрын
@@mohammad81295 you're no make sense. you just explain one situation. you make people more confuse.
@nicksenseitv4922
@nicksenseitv4922 4 жыл бұрын
i explain. ACT and ERP are both best and only best for Anxiety i will explain precisely. ERP is the hardest because it needs you to engage to the thought, at first it will give you sever anxiety attack but later on. the one thing you fear most will get weaken overtime. Analogy: if you're watching a horror movie at first you will get afraid. very fraid of it. but try to watch it 50x. make sense. ACT is acceptance to the thoughts. not only one certain thought but all types of thoughts. Mindfulness meditation will teach you to just observe the thought without analyzing it and not giving them emotions. Analogy: You're watching a horror movie but your full attention is not on what you're watching, you're just looking at the movie but you focus on other things. you will not afraid then because your full attention is not on the horor movie. Summary: ERP- is weakening the certain thoughts you fear most. and habituate. ACT-you're strenghtening your life force against all types of thoughts. Both are the only ways to defeat fears. and both techniques are existing when you're doing Meditation. Example: sit and close your eyes. your greatest fear will come, practice not get react to it. just watch it. breath. ( ERP ) or focus on your breath everytime you wanders, back again to your breath. ( ACT ). Dont get confuse. both techniques are best for fighting fears. and this both are the only ways. nothing else. this 2 technique same result. to HABITUATE. this video just explain that the ERP is effective for intrusive thoughts too.
@23katied
@23katied 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Yes I can understand why it is confusing. So I'll try and answer as clearly as possible. What we have to think about is what is the ultimate goal here? It's to get to the point where the thoughts can come and go and you can not care too much about them. With this in mind there are different ways of achieving this. As you have been doing one way is practicing mindfulness of some kind - through this you can help yourself learn that thoughts are just thoughts and you don't need to do anything about them. In OCD treatment we don't recommend any kind of brushing the thoughts away as this is a way of being in contact with them - we would rather recommend just letting the thought take care of itself while you pay attention to other things. This video is about doing DELIBERATE exposure to the thoughts - i.e doing something that exposes you to them and then potentially making them worse so you learn that you can cope with them. This helps you get to a point of caring less about them in the long run. HOWEVER - this is something you choose to practice - like going to the gym - we are not suggesting you do this every time a thought comes in. So to recap - you are doing ERP - perhaps on a daily basis for 15-30 minutes to learn you can cope with the thoughts and the feelings that come with them and the rest of the time you are practicing refocusing your attention on things other than the thoughts and letting them take care of themselves. I know this is easier said than done. I will be uploading videos on this in the next week or two.
@CosmicCanvas666
@CosmicCanvas666 7 жыл бұрын
Can I do exposure for pure O just in the mind? Do I need to mark every time I do a compulsion on a piece of paper? This seems to be very difficult for me because it's so difficult to track mental compulsions, I'm doing them all the time!
@broojie8191
@broojie8191 6 жыл бұрын
Action Potential I’m sure it would help to mark a tally or something every time you do a compulsion during erp. As you go on with erp you may notice you do it less and less. So it can help you in recovery. Keep track of dates and when you do it. Try NOCD if you can’t afford therapy. ERP in an app and is totally legit and reliable. You just have to know how to do it.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers x
@benwalker1656
@benwalker1656 11 ай бұрын
What I find helps me is to do an nlp technique where you swap the thought that's disturbing or distressing me with a positive thought , vision in turn helps cut it off ,then I repeat it every single time .. I usually swap it for a vision that has made me happy or a want and desire like a house or car I want 1 day . Remember team just like everything IT TO SHALL PASS
@emanelkholy5127
@emanelkholy5127 8 жыл бұрын
thank you ,we need more videos
@rollsroyce4420
@rollsroyce4420 4 жыл бұрын
Wow your video could have saved me a year... I had been terrified for a long time and by watching this now i know that i have found the problem to my months long issue... I didn't know that i had pure o and this seems to be the best solution for me many thanks... God bless you.. Good luck and best regards Im from Iran and in my country you wouldnt find an advice like this
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers
@rollsroyce4420
@rollsroyce4420 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224 oh great I took sessions with 2 3 different psychologists and the last two solved my problem I took 50 60 sessions to substantially subdue the anxiety
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@rollsroyce4420 thanks for your reply, can I ask what helped in particular, thanks so much for your time
@rollsroyce4420
@rollsroyce4420 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224 during sessions i figured that the core of my fears was failing an upcoming test which would change my course i life at that moment And due to the induced anxiety for that, it showed itself in the form of OCD Telling me I'm not good enough because of this and that All my focus during that time was trying to prove those thoughts wrong but after the sessions i figured the problem is something else and these OCD ruminations are only there to tell me that there's an issue... My psychologist figured it's maybe my own unconscious self's interest to just stick to this episode of OCD, because the ocd and the anxiety and panic attacks it brings you, actually offer you an excuse to not study and not face the test and the consequences of not succeeding in it.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@rollsroyce4420 thanks for your reply, would you say you got over it then ? Cheers
@CosmicCanvas666
@CosmicCanvas666 7 жыл бұрын
Ms. A'th thank you for your help. I'm 23 and I've been having this since I was 12. It's been over a decade. I hope it's not too late LOL. BTW I subscribed :)
@dzarko1
@dzarko1 7 жыл бұрын
Never too late to improve
@brenosantana1458
@brenosantana1458 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know why do you have anxiety?
@TheHiroClaw123
@TheHiroClaw123 11 ай бұрын
As soon as you started mentioning doing the opposite of what my OCD tells me, I literally tensed up from fear. God this is hard, lol
@vickymay3143
@vickymay3143 4 жыл бұрын
My compulsions are reassuring myself in my head and rationalising away the thoughts. How do I do the opposite of this?
@allenc4731
@allenc4731 4 жыл бұрын
I think, whatever it's rationalising about (has to be some fear-based thoughts or worries), imagine it has happened to you, immerse yourself in that situation, and stay there, feel every feeling and emotion arises in your body, at the same time keeping on breathing deeply, until it passes. Your mind is likely gonna try to rationalise it even more, try your best to bring your focus back to your body and breathing. If you do it right, the anxiety level should go down naturally, and you find yourself still alive and the world still the same. With time, you'd fear it less and less.
@jai598
@jai598 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe stop reassuring urself and do not engage with them.
@sarahmason5818
@sarahmason5818 3 жыл бұрын
I find saying ‘ok thanks brain for bringing that up, maybe that is the case, maybe it isn’t. I’m going to take the risk that there’s a problem but I’m still not going to engage’, then immerse yourself in doing something else / make mood indep decisions (like if you were planning on doing something do it even though you feel bad). Feel the wave of anxiety but be mindful in the moment (I find noting 5 things I can see helpful in anchoring me in the present). Then over time your brain habituates to these feelings of stress/anxiety and stops presenting you with the anxiety inducing thought.
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers
@user-zz3ie8uu3o
@user-zz3ie8uu3o 11 ай бұрын
@@jai598 everyone gets some sort of intrusive thought. It’s just that people with ocd/pure o engage with this thought instead of brush it off. So telling someone with pure o to not engage with it is like telling someone with depression to just be happy. That’s the whole point. The more u try to brush it off your think about it more and it doesn’t stop.
@sweetstufff
@sweetstufff 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your helpful videos! Can you please talk about scrupulosity OCD, since it is more spiritual and hard to know the outcome of our fears. For example, it would be blasphemous to say the bad intrusive thoughts about religion/God out loud and so one might not be able to do the ERP therapy with this kind of OCD.
@dewdrop4361
@dewdrop4361 4 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to faight is with God's Word. His Word is truth, His Love is truth. So just praise Him, YAHUSHUA, Jesus for what He did at Cross for us. May He help you.
@lorencbarjami3481
@lorencbarjami3481 6 жыл бұрын
The best professional video
@JustOrdinaryRiddles
@JustOrdinaryRiddles 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ma'am. Your videos have been a great help
@justinthomas9585
@justinthomas9585 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the videos, which are very clear and understandable.
@m.a.r.t.i.n.
@m.a.r.t.i.n. 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this.
@amarjeetsharma5035
@amarjeetsharma5035 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best .
@canigetawitness1992
@canigetawitness1992 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, please explain the "magical ingredient" part further. I don't have scrupolisty OCD, but as a human being who is a human being, I'm not going to trick myself into loving the Devil either...This goes over my head. It should be enough to accept uncertainty that you COULD (keyword COULD) love the Devil and move on. This is why I kind of hate ERP, because it gets in the way of being a human being with individual interests, Faith's, belief's, etc.
@ddub1632
@ddub1632 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Daves hey man i struggle with the same exact thing. how are you doing with it now?
@ryanbyrne259
@ryanbyrne259 4 жыл бұрын
Amen bro
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now,cheers
@jadammouri994
@jadammouri994 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't this contradict ignoring the thought and let it go without giving it any sense? Im confused.
@raymeester7883
@raymeester7883 5 жыл бұрын
ERP is not the same as that.
@mohamedinshafjihath4626
@mohamedinshafjihath4626 4 жыл бұрын
ERP is just observing the thought and not satisfying it with any compulsion, if you try to avoid the thought,then it’s gonna come back again
@kevino9161
@kevino9161 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos into the insight of OCD
@isakpalmstiernaeinarsson6946
@isakpalmstiernaeinarsson6946 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your videos really help me:)
@kilifischkopp1442
@kilifischkopp1442 6 жыл бұрын
I usually witness that the ocd epands upon the images and makes them worse and worse to tzz he point that they're traumatizing when exposing to them. It adds level after level of horror. Is that really helpful to stay in that case? Getting carried away by a story that gets worse and worse ?
@brenosantana1458
@brenosantana1458 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know why do you have anxiety?
@MultiStuart64
@MultiStuart64 8 жыл бұрын
great video keep up the good work
@mikkimolina6586
@mikkimolina6586 7 жыл бұрын
Also how are you suppose to put this method into affect when your thoughts are trying to make you believe that they are true? That's a big thing for me.
@david_n.n
@david_n.n 7 жыл бұрын
Very good question
@dzarko1
@dzarko1 7 жыл бұрын
That's the whole case with OCD. Do You think anyone would pay any attention to thoughts if they were adamant that they are untrue? No. Whole idea is to see them as thoughts, allow the possibility that anything can happen, do not ritualize, hold on in the fear and let it drop.
@daisy890119
@daisy890119 6 жыл бұрын
My recent findings is don't give meaning to them, cause you give meaning to belive in them
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@dzarko1 hey just wondering how you’re getting with this cheers
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
@@daisy890119 hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this cheers
@ntobekonzima1124
@ntobekonzima1124 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much Dr. I have been trying to practise many of your advices and I must say, u r very spot on. Are u perhaps a sufferer yourself? U are very good.
@hyperchronium1803
@hyperchronium1803 4 жыл бұрын
You saved my life, Thank you
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now cheers
@danielsbrissa3288
@danielsbrissa3288 Ай бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224how are you now
@mimik9948
@mimik9948 6 жыл бұрын
you’re so so helpful ;)
@ibisgitano7435
@ibisgitano7435 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie thank you so much for your videos:)
@AbhinavKumarSahai
@AbhinavKumarSahai 3 жыл бұрын
The moment I stop doing the repeated rituals to cut the obsessions things starts slipping out of my hand
@AbhinavKumarSahai
@AbhinavKumarSahai 3 жыл бұрын
@@sns595 I lose track of things as if some order has been broken
@AbhinavKumarSahai
@AbhinavKumarSahai 3 жыл бұрын
@@sns595 Anxiety triggers and then I lose vigilance over the things
@AbhinavKumarSahai
@AbhinavKumarSahai 3 жыл бұрын
@@sns595 I am badly fighting with Intrusive Thoughts while Checking something, so if I am locking something and a thought pops in the OFC 🧠 I have to redo but ERP says do the opposite what is this opposite in this case? pls help
@AbhinavKumarSahai
@AbhinavKumarSahai Жыл бұрын
@heeyoou meaning
@mohammad81295
@mohammad81295 4 жыл бұрын
I think doing the opposite of what your ocd wants is like going to a dark place when you fear it so much, and after you go there a few times, you won't fear it anymore. It's almost the same with ocd, when you do the opposite of the compulsion that ocd wants you to do, you discredit the ocd and you start to let it go
@shaktiriot
@shaktiriot 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel is really helpful, thank you so much.
@anasansari_1206
@anasansari_1206 3 жыл бұрын
How’s ur OCD now..?
@dewberry150
@dewberry150 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that erp is used to treat intrusive thoughts about death and dying. I don’t know how this is possible. my therapist isn’t going to kill me
@GrootsieTheDog
@GrootsieTheDog 6 жыл бұрын
The only problem with ERP for internal OCD is that exposer can become the compulsion. It becomes a cyclical problem in the end. Constant testing of reactions to the images - are we disgusted enough? Are we aroused? Do we like it? I don't know, I better put the image back in my head to find out! And on and on it goes...This is all common among those with internal OCD. For example, contrary to some bad info online, many if not most people with sexual OCD at times feel arousal from the thoughts or they feel on some level that maybe they like them and other constant doubting. So people "test" or expose themselves over and over to their obsessions (now a compulsion) in their heads until they get bored, no longer feel the sensations, no longer can take it, or find another mental compulsion. For me, the "cure" is more about changing the belief systems underlying the OCD. I don't believe in God so I will never have any scrupulosity OCD. But I love art so I will have artistic OCD at times - does art really have meaning, does some art mean more than others? etc, etc. SO getting back to sexual orientation OCD - I believe that if I get aroused by something, surely that means deep down I want it. It all goes back to the Freudian idea. Even though my therapist says people get aroused by all sorts of taboo, forbidden and just weird things, I still don't believe it. So the good and the bad of it is that until I believe I can be aroused by something and that has nothing to do with my sexual orientation or desire, I will be stuck no matter how much I "expose" my self to the thoughts.
@greenJoker8
@greenJoker8 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said.
@georgeSud7
@georgeSud7 6 жыл бұрын
You are constant testing the reactions and what you said because you can stay in uncertainty.Ocd is anxiety and uncertainty.And now it tries to catch you with doubt.You want to figure that problem with sexual arousing and that is a compulsion. The more you will do that the more ocd will strike back with doubt and you will never find the answer.You don't need to figure if you are aroused by something because this is what ocd wants from you.
@wayumin
@wayumin 10 ай бұрын
​​@@georgeSud7ok so I have h ocd and I've had an intrusive thought of hurting my teddy which scared the crap out of me. Do you think it's normal that I actually did it? I just wanted the thought to go away and I also wanted to see if I can do it and if I'll like it. I didn't like it at all! Makes me so uncomfortable and even more afraid cause now I just acted on a freaking intrusive thought and all the therapists say you would never act on it. I literally wrapped my hands around the teddy's neck and squeezed it. And I did it twice, but in different days. Now I don't now if it was a compulsion to just figure out stuff or if I'm actually going to loose control and perhaps start liking it and then... 😢this is so exhausting. I've been crying and having mild panic attacks. Nobody has ever experienced this side of OCD.
@TheNaiveMonk
@TheNaiveMonk 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing ❤
@armstrongliberato6419
@armstrongliberato6419 7 жыл бұрын
you are great. Thank for your life
@cameronclare5084
@cameronclare5084 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Katie. Does it help if you sarcastically agree with your intrusive thoughts?
@dzarko1
@dzarko1 7 жыл бұрын
It can as long You don't make it into another ritual. Agree with their presence, that's the cure. It can be sarcastic.
@ryanbyrne259
@ryanbyrne259 4 жыл бұрын
Wel said
@AgarioSplitrunner
@AgarioSplitrunner 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it helps but you need treat this technique as detaching ocd. Another detach technique is inner laughter
@universale3323
@universale3323 2 жыл бұрын
Too gorgeous. I have to listen to audio only.😯
@zainsheikh8801
@zainsheikh8801 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, this is really helpful!
@traceyh3846
@traceyh3846 9 күн бұрын
ERP reminds me of the book by Susan Jeffers . Feel the fear and do it anyway
@chicodepuertorico1450
@chicodepuertorico1450 2 жыл бұрын
My Pure OCD manifests as fears of neurological disorders and other kinds of nonsense. I'm seeking treatment and I'm back on mood enhancers. I'm determined to learn techniques with my Therapist to permanently help me cope with the white noise. I'm so sick of this shite!
@hannahparallag
@hannahparallag Жыл бұрын
thank youuu so much i really needed this
@nikos7989
@nikos7989 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to cry in the train while I'm watching videos of Katie in regards to OCD pure O. I was recently diagnosed with OCPD and for years I have been surviving on my own willpower to go against my thoughts. Realising how fucked up it feels now. Most of my mechanisms are upside down and I'm afraid that each day is going to be the day that I fuck up everything. It hurts realising how what you thought of what's probably normal for everyone, it actually isn't and that I'm dealing with something that's been eating me from the inside. I know this is an old video and I'm not even sure that you'll reach back but what's your opinion in regards to SSRI - meds in response to OCPD - anxiety?
@BrighamYen
@BrighamYen 8 жыл бұрын
I have an intense fear of swallowing pills, which then unfortunately started to make me develop phagophobia with food in general. I've been exposing myself to food and it's definitely worked somewhat, but not completely yet. I still get pretty bad anxiety when I'm eating with lightheadedness, which makes me afraid to swallow food. what kind of ERP technique could be used against phagophobia???
@gingerisevil02
@gingerisevil02 6 жыл бұрын
It's not so easy if you're losing sleep over it. Lack of sleep causes anxiety.
@brenosantana1458
@brenosantana1458 4 жыл бұрын
Try being tired when you sleep, If you want.
@ecstaticayan7942
@ecstaticayan7942 3 жыл бұрын
Same problem here,what to do with sleep
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on cheers
@hs223justin
@hs223justin 8 жыл бұрын
I know that in erp therapy you have to focus on the fear or stimulus, but how do you establish the fine line between that and obsessing over it?
@juliejenkins2376
@juliejenkins2376 8 жыл бұрын
justin nguyen really great question. I'd love to hear the answer to this. I'm trying to help my husband with Harm OCD and he's concerned about obsessing about it.
@cherylhegarty7330
@cherylhegarty7330 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that as you are spending time obsessing over it you are performing the neutralising either behaviourally or internally? trying to reduce the fear....responding. But with exposure, you are accepting the threat, letting it in fully, minus any attempts to resolve your discomfort. Obsessing, like rumination is our attempts to problem solve our way out of the discomfort?? therefore habituation cannot occur. Exposure is purely exposing to it until habituation (or getting used to it) naturally occurs..after a while the brain sees it as irrelevant/ non threatening... less need to focus on it. What do you think? Good question!
@silliestsharks111
@silliestsharks111 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is my question as well. I feel that trying to isolate it and make it more intense just makes me think of it more and then it is more difficult to let it go.
@garrettmoore7
@garrettmoore7 7 жыл бұрын
Vicky Campbell me too! That's exactly what my dilemma is. I obsess about my unwanted thought all day, and then when I'm just too tired to think about it any more, it becomes that much more harder to not think about it because I have thought about it so much
@mcrgrooves
@mcrgrooves 7 жыл бұрын
thats because your trying not to think about it you say it yourself in the text , the key is to accept the thoughts , be kind to yourself and dont try to do to much at once , little steps toward the goal , also learn to shift your focus to the present and have a break
@sweetstufff
@sweetstufff 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with religious scrupulosity, OCD there is the fear of God, so the person with this kind cannot go and say the intrusive thoughts that anger God. The opposite of saying, for example, a prayer to neutralize the thought, would be to say a curse which is blasphemous. How do you go about with this therapy in this case?
@whatshisname3304
@whatshisname3304 5 жыл бұрын
if god knows everything he 'll understand.
@hektorfrisch4547
@hektorfrisch4547 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that ERP is a therapy for everyone.
@lilypadpiece2844
@lilypadpiece2844 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@sygicmcmobile2770
@sygicmcmobile2770 4 жыл бұрын
After watching these videos, I am wondering whether it is possible that if you apply exposures with the wrong dynamics, it could turn into a compulsion itself. So let’s say someone is afraid of some type of devil imagery that pops up in his mind. If this person now starts to think “wow, the devil imagery came to my mind, I MUST start drawing a cartoon of that imagery, otherwise I am scr*wed” then that does also not seem quite okay to me. The ultimate goal is to get the person “not to care” about the imagery or thought that pops up in his mind, right? And basically in order to reach that goal, you should apply ERP probably in the right way...so my question is basically whether there can be a "wrong" and "correct" way of applying ERP
@lesbattersby2632
@lesbattersby2632 4 жыл бұрын
cheers you are a life saver
@jeremyyork3538
@jeremyyork3538 Ай бұрын
Very good Katie. My fears have revolved around contamination. It could be exposure to HIV, Asbestos, Radiation or any other hazardous agent and the prospect of doing the opposite of what my OCD tells me to do may genuinely cause harm. I believe that the majority of people are simply not aware of the hazards which permeate our lives and that my concerns are reality and need to be heeded. I suppose it's a matter of perspective but once you know a hazard exists, how can you ignore it? I've always been very sensitive and aware - perhaps that's why I'm so troubled . I'd appreciate your views (anyone!)
@joncena168
@joncena168 4 жыл бұрын
Omg no way!!! Thank u and God bless you
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering how you’re getting on with this now cheers
@ivanpetrov7954
@ivanpetrov7954 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to share a problem i have. It all started few days ago when panic that i have something in my trachea or something stuck in my esophagus...so to calm down i started to breath heavy and went to bed continuing to do it, after that it all came ''that awareness of breathing and the thought that if i don't control my breath i will stop doing it'' yea super dumb and illogical i know but still i have that fear and anxiety and that is a huge pain in the *** to fall asleep... any help please .(i'm aware of it , almost all the time except while i magically manage to sleep or rarely when i'm engaged with people.
@15anshulkumar
@15anshulkumar 5 жыл бұрын
Brother, Did you recover ? I'm suffering from the same , it LL be helpful as to how you overcame it.
@umeshbansall
@umeshbansall 5 жыл бұрын
your videos helped me to overcome my ocd
@jamesjohnstone1224
@jamesjohnstone1224 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering if you overcame this fully ? Cheers
@danielsbrissa3288
@danielsbrissa3288 Ай бұрын
@@jamesjohnstone1224hey how are you doing now
@ryantan2936
@ryantan2936 8 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work if I have the OCD thought of guilt whenever I doing something misappropriate, I feel like confessing to any person. Should I just bear with the guilt and ignore the urge to confess? is confessing a bad thing because that what my OCD want me to do? How do I deal with guilt OCD? even if a guilt is on very small issues?
@greenJoker8
@greenJoker8 6 жыл бұрын
Very good question.
@simonh8144
@simonh8144 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Katie, are you aware of any link between Pure 'O' and perfectionism?
@stacimarie3
@stacimarie3 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there has to be.
@dzarko1
@dzarko1 7 жыл бұрын
Perfectionism is a reaction to fear that one is not good enough. It's commonly a result of screwed childhood. Ocd and perfectionism are wrong ways for brain to cope with uncertainty. The only way is to accept.
@greenJoker8
@greenJoker8 6 жыл бұрын
How does this apply to religion, scrupulosity and Pascal's Wager? Accepting that you might go to hell for the eternity after death?
@williamkeller6751
@williamkeller6751 5 жыл бұрын
Kururugi Suzaku well I think all of those things fall under the same umbrella if they’re obsessive
@lucianaabril1799
@lucianaabril1799 4 жыл бұрын
@@dzarko1 and what if you didn't have an screwed childhood? 🤔
@felixlipski3956
@felixlipski3956 14 күн бұрын
That's such a bizzare example...
@yisolc1837
@yisolc1837 2 жыл бұрын
pls make more erp videos for pure o this is really helpful
@roxetteannamoranto3935
@roxetteannamoranto3935 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this ❤️
@positivevibes4evr
@positivevibes4evr 4 жыл бұрын
So rearranging furniture is my compulsion so do I just not move the furniture when the compulsion to move it Is really strong?
@prisonerofearth
@prisonerofearth 3 жыл бұрын
My Pure O doesn't involve fear. For me, it revolves around dutifulness and guilt. I had high expectations thrust upon me by a religious mother with anger issues. I feel like I have to justify my worth. How, if I'm not afraid of anything, am I supposed to confront my fear? I get online for hours without realizing it in an effort to contribute and feel like I've accomplished something (I suppose). I waste entire days on here. It's disturbing. What am I supposed to confront when this happens? Am I supposed to rip in half a picture of my mother? Am I supposed to slack off and accomplish nothing? Play a video game? How do I use exposure therapy?
@23katied
@23katied 3 жыл бұрын
This is a helpful post as of course it does not always manifest in something that feels like fear. Guilt is a very typical alternative emotion that people experience with OCD. The likelihood here is that what you don't want is to feel guilty or bad about yourself or having to justify your worth and therefore you either avoid things which you worry (fear) will make you feel like this or you overcompensate by doing lots of good/worthy things because you worry that if you don't you will feel guilty/bad. You say you feel you've achieved by contributing when you spend hours online - I would say this is a compulsion or strategy that you use to avoid feeling bad. So if this all makes sense to you then what you need to do is expose yourself to the sorts of things you worry will make you feel bad about yourself/guilty - for example - do something self-indulgent like take a day to yourself and binge watch your favourite show. (this is just an example it may not be something that would make you feel bad). In my experience people with this kind of presentation will do all sorts of people pleasing behaviours like always getting super thoughtful presents for people, contribute to society thorough charitable causes etc (nothing wrong with this and you can go back to doing it once you are doing it out of choice rather than to avoid feeling bad). I hope this helps give you a bit of direction about how to work with your OCD.
@prisonerofearth
@prisonerofearth 3 жыл бұрын
@@23katied, Thank you so much for responding. I'm actually kind of surprised about how I phrased my question. I wrote that I get online to feel like I'm accomplishing something. The byproduct of being online so much, of course, is that it keeps me from what I want to accomplish most. It's incredibly ironic to me that my mind views what I do on here as being productive but that's exactly how I feel about it. I feel like I'm doing something meaningful when I write so much online. I feel like I'm staying busy and being productive. Writing online is my, "obsession." My, "compulsion," (like you said) must be the bad feeling I get when I don't do what I truly want to do. You've helped me a lot here. I need to schedule some down time doing neither thing. It seems like a good game plan to help me hit the reset button.
@ohmyanime5885
@ohmyanime5885 Жыл бұрын
My compulsions are all arguments in my head about something i heard someone say or something someone said to me or even a social media post from a year ago. How do i do ERP i have no idea.
@eileenmoss3029
@eileenmoss3029 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how this will help me overcome my fear of my child drowning in a pond? Please advise because generally speaking I am finding your videos very helpful.
@sultanaminulhaque
@sultanaminulhaque 3 жыл бұрын
Tnx mam..you changed my life
@DarthMalikify
@DarthMalikify 4 жыл бұрын
None of this works for me. My OCD turns exposures into a compulsion.
@ashishtigga3088
@ashishtigga3088 4 жыл бұрын
It Works Bro
@DarthMalikify
@DarthMalikify 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashishtigga3088 Yes I know it works for most ppl, but not for me. I've been doing ERP for months and I'm currently in the Rogers partial hospitalization program and it's still not working.
@senaidsakonjic9755
@senaidsakonjic9755 4 жыл бұрын
Erp is extremly dificult st begining
@uriviera3860
@uriviera3860 3 ай бұрын
Woweeeee this really helps
@Jim-cj2jn
@Jim-cj2jn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you
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