Did you ever ride a VINTAGE bike!? Let me know what you think of it!!

You don't need to worry about breaking a vintage bike, you need to worry about the vintage bike breaking you.

Serotta is a famous frame builder from Saratoga, NY. They built the 7 Eleven and Coors Light team frames. The also built the frames that were badge Huffy back in the 1980's and the Pinarello badge frame ridden to gold at the Atlanta Olympics. Ben Serotta also created a sloping geometry, half titanium and carbon fiber frame with carbon seat stays that attached to the titanium chain stays via needle bearings to absorb road shock. Overall, Serotta was one of the most innovative and legendary US and overall frame builders in the late 1980's and '90's.

Wow, such lovely people, love the shop too. Back in the late 70s (yes I'm pretty old) we were still using 6 speed , close ratio block; bikes were Columbus or Reynolds tubing, down tube, no index shifters . Always tubulars for racing , good silk ones for important races, cheap ones for club racing. It wasn't unusual to hear at least one blow out at every club race and flat tyres were the norm! I love all the modern technology of today that has made cycling so enjoyable. Another enjoyable video as usual, thank you.

I climbed Mt. Evans in Colorado (14,265ft / 4350m) from Idaho Springs on my 21st birthday in 1988 on a Motobecane Team Champion using a 43 x 21. Let's just say I did a lot of standing climbing. Luckily still have intact knee cartilage.

I started cycling a few months ago on a steel touring bike I got for free. I’ve upgraded since, but can’t beat the amazing feeling of riding steel with wide tires. Was bliss.

Hey, greetings from NÜRNBERG. I sent you to to the bike shop, if you remember ;) Nice video.

Just love to see people with fire and passion for what they do. That means Olly from the bike shop and of course yourself Jasper.

I remember 52 /42 and 13 /25 on my campag equipped ti Raleigh bike back in the early 80s!. Very hard up steep climbs, and down tube shifters, non indexed!.

I just restored a 1977 Albert Eisentraut custom frame with the intention of riding it on roads as well as dirt on the smoother trails and dirt roads. This bike wont be worshipped, baby'd or coddled. I'm going to ride it just like any of my other bikes. Often, long distances and with the intention to get from point A to point B. I rode dirt on road bikes about a decade before MTBs ever existed. Maximum speed doesn't interest me anymore. My racing days are over. I aspire to spending as much time as possible rolling around on two wheels! The limiting factor will always be a human one. I realized long ago, it's the rider, not the freakin bike that makes the wheels go round. In my mind, a bicycle is a simple, reliable machine that allows me to explore my limits. Mr Eisentraut was The Godfather of American framebuilders. He was one of the true framebuilding masters in the world. He mentored many of the current renowned metal framebuilders in the US . Mr Eisentraut is still alive, retired and is now a vintner in the Oakland CA area. This was my unobtainium dream bike as a teen in the '70s. Now, 45 years later I've finally realized my dream! It happened by chance. My customer gave the frame to me for free! It was gathering dust and rust in his storage. Its a beautiful lugged example of meticulous quality. Steel and aluminum, old school, tried, true and proven technology has always been attractive to me. For bicycles that I pay large amounts of money for, Handmade frames by someone I personally know has always been my requirement. I seek reliability and long term value above all else. Ive owned several custom frames made in the US and England. I build custom wheels as a small business and have assembled every one of my bicycles, from a bare frame since I was a child. Now I'm learning to braze, tig weld and build my own frames. Ive built low trail forks and custom stems so far. This is all part of my 'quality assurance' mindset. DIY offers perhaps the greatest potential for the very highest quality. Simply because no one else can possibly give a shit like the end user! I'm a retired machinist and mechanical inspector. Ive contributed in building aerospace and satellite hardware from composites as well as many other high reliability manufacturing and research environments. . Now I wrench in a high end bike shop in 'retirement' for fun. I see recalls, warranties, broken carbon, compromised and incompetent manufacturing on a regular basis. The issue with carbon forks and the 'ring of death' is particularly concerning. I'll never ever buy a plastic frame or component because high quality and actual QC in the larger (production) bike industry is practically non existant. I know it for a fact. I can measure it and see it. This is proveable fact. Ive cut up lots of crashed frames. I know what to look for. I worked in some of the highest quality demanding industries on earth.

Ollie is an awesome lad!! Great vid again Jasper!!! Cant wait for more of your vids!! Ride safe

Even though this may have not been the fastest bike, it is a very interesting video to watch. I like the idea of just discovering a new place by showing up at a local bike shop that has some unique bikes, and people to talk about the place and their passions. That Wilier cromovelato is something very special and I'm sure your Serotta was a very smooth ride too. You gave this independent bike shop a very nice shout out on your channel and I'll hope you'll do more like this in the future in the different cities your flying takes you.

a Ben Serotta with Campagnolo was the Bike of my wet dreams back then!!!

I feel the pain. I still have my late 80s hand-built Raleigh, Reynolds 531 frame, 52-42 front x6 rear. First of the Shimano 105 SIS indexed gears. The changers are on the downtube to add to the fun. I still take it out now and again, but when I do I miss my Obrea’s Ultegra Di2. And of course the power I had back than to go up Ditchling Beacon on the old bike. Thank goodness for progress. Another great post!

I sometimes ride a steel 1980 Motobecane with a 2X6 (52/42, 13-23) gear system (downtube shifters, of course). I also ride an alloy 2000 Allez with 53/39 chain rings and an 11-21 "corncob" 9-speed cassette. I'm a couple of weeks short of 64 years old. These are the gear ranges pros rode for decades. It's all in one's strength and fitness.

You definitely make that bike live breathe and jump again. Beautiful country roads to boot insane bike shop and passionate owners!

Jasper you are the man! Love this series and it's great to see you enjoying yourself on those magnificent rides around Europe :)

Hey Jasper! I was smiling during the lenght of the entire video! I'm in my 20ies and started cycling last year in october on an old VanTuyl steel bike. my easiest gear is a 38-26 so especially in the beginning I was struggling up every climb I encountered in the Eiffel. Your videos are very inspiring and actually I am happy to see what difference it makes to ride an old bike like me :) Keep up the good work!

When I started riding seriously that old vintage bike was state of the art. Surprised to see a Serotta frame over in Germany!

I had a Serotta bike just like that. Had Campy Super Record 8spd. Loved it

Great dude, great bike, fantastic surroundings.

Yes first time just bought vintage Bridgestone Roadman last October 1, 2022 japan surplus thank YOU for sharing your interesting video I love old school😊🚴‍♀

Again, what a great vid! Super interesting and so much funny! Thank you for this great stuff! Among other bikes i ride a steel Corratec La Strada with 2x7. Riding is different, but fine!

Hey Jasper , nice to see the Wilier Triestina.. had a similar one in 1985 till 1990 .. regret giving it away.. a very responsive machine

Honestly, not that old. A Serotta with Campy Ergo shifters was a dream bike

Great video. Wonderful shop, great bunch of guys

Beautiful bike. You are strong 💪.

Nice, respect jasper. Mooie rit!

You meet some super nice people on your travels keep up the great content 👍🏻

Very cool bikeshop and really nice people too!

Funny passing on people at those speeds on a vintage bike, you’re an absolute beast!

Best one yet! Mooie fiets.

Would you ride a VINTAGE bike??!!! GO check other episodes of the Cycling All Over Europe Series HERE: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bq14aJd3srnRZIU.html

I'm also cycling in the Dolomites next month! Doing the passo Pordoi amongst other things. Would be cool to see you.

Omg that saddle!! Love it!! Turbomatic 2 !!!! Love!!

When I first started racing in US, I used a Serotta Colorado LT frameset. It was similar to the frames the 7-Eleven pro cycling team was using at the time.

I used a 52-42 and 13-21 back in the day. I made it up the hills ok but the frame would flex on me when I got out of the saddle and it would pull on the shifter cables and "automatically" shift. We had friction shifters back then. It would always shift into a harder gear which I almost never wanted.

Now that's a cool bike shop and people 👌🏻🤙🏻👌🏻 Jasper you killed it on that vintage bike 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻 I would have struggled on my Kuota Kryon with it 50-34 and 11-34 cassette on those climbs 😜

Insane how quick you did that 🤙

Great video Jasper.

On vintage bikes, if I were to still own this bike, it would be vintage now. 1994 Colnago Master Light w/Campy Record. WordPerfect team paint scheme. Such an amazing bike for its time. Would still be a great ride I’m sure. Probably very similar in feel to the Serotta frame you were on..

I used to use those saddles,very nice.

They sealed the deal for me to visit by greeting me with coffee. I could definitely hang out in a shop like that all day. Cycling is life!!

I used to race a steel mid-80s Nishiki Olympic 12 with huge gears and DT shifters back in the day, and recently rebuilt a steel '80s Lotus with 52/43 and 13/28 and have taken it out on a few challening climbs with some vintage bike geek friends and have raced in a local alley cat race a few times. I get dropped at the big climb but come steaming back to the lantern rouge mashing the 52/28 on the downhill. Kicks my butt every time, but I love the feel of steel compared to my aluminum 27-speed.

How can you not ride a freaking Serotta anyway but good!? Hahaha What a beautiful vintage bicycle!😊

Awesome bike 💯🌞

Yes. Bridgestone bikes from the US mid 80s. Triple butted 4130 Chromoly. Bridgestone Mile 112, Bridgestone Radac, and Bridgestone 450.

Magnifique vélo bravo 👏👏👍🚴🏻‍♂️🇫🇷

Going to Eddy Would Attack when I arrive in Nurnberg. Ollie is a legend

love your vids

LOVE Serotta!

niice route and nice bike 🤙🏼🤙🏼 from the philippines ride safe

Awesome Vid, Love your content

nice & warm people.

To my surprise you got a Serotta. Last week I bought two Serottas, one a CSI very similar to the one you rented, and the other a titanium road bike. I know exactly what you mean re the gearing: mine is the same Campagnolo 42/23 lowest gearing. You, my friend, are an animal to ride that gearing on steep hills. Today I ordered a 39 chainring, and a 13-28 cassette to make it livable. Serotta = great bikes!

Jazeker, Gazelle AB 42/52 voor en 13 /24 achter totdat we in de Vogezen de coll du Platzerwasel op moesten dat werd dus lopen. Later was het klimverzet 39/52 voor en 13/26 of 28 achter de mooie jaren 80. Mijn leeftijd was toen midden 30. Nu als zestiger heb ik de opkomst van de look klikpedalen en geïndexeerd schakelen meegemaakt en daarna Shimano schakelen met de remgepen. Nu rij ik op een Van Nicholas di2 10 speed dat dan weer wel.

The color scheme on that bike is totally awesome!

I love how you say Nürnberch, just like the locals :D

I just love the hand crafted workmanship of steel bikes! Love the feel of the steel on the road too. The ride is so compliant.

i sold this bikes in the 90`s great stuff serotta`s

That tarmac looks immaculate - very little like that in my neck of the woods. Need to visit Germany...

I clicked on this because I personally on a Serotta CSI which was their top of the line steel lugged frame from 1997. I have ridden many 10,000 ft climbing days and many 200 milers on it. I ride it in spirited group rides and never have any issue keeping in the wheels - it’s my legs that do me in eventually not the bike 😂

Super shop and bikes.

Not vintage, but love my 6 year old stainless Waterford 😁

I rode a 30 yr.old 8 speed till this year. Same saddle as that bike.

That’s a big ride no matter what bike you’re on. I keep one or two vintage bikes in my collection just for fun. But they are solely for riding around town with the family. I tired a big ride on one of my vintage bikes once… once.

Jasper, great video. Especially like the tour of the shop and the story behind your adventures. One question: do you bring power pedals with you to mount them on a rental bike to have your power output or how do you train with power on rental bikes?

One of my n+1 bikes is a 1985 Schwinn Tempo that has 10 speed compact gearing. 34x32 is my climbing gear. It’s a smooth ride.

I also have a vintage road bike bottom tube with just 7 gears. It great on flats ,but the hills huh .

I have started my adventure with cycling on steel bike Hurricane (Made in Poland by Romet) with six gear by Czech Favorit derailleur, manual gear changing without indexing.

That bike went up in value since you rode it buddy!

I use Panasonic PR3000 1993 with 7 Gears Shimano RX100 and i love it 🚴🏻

Hey man!! Amazing video!! I love cycling and I moved to Nuremberg a couple months ago so I'll definitely pay a visit to Eddy's shop! Would it be a chance of you sharing the route you did? Komoot or Strava? Thanks a lot for the amazing video, energy and motivation!!

Funnily enough the bike you've ridden is still available in the shop! Maybe you should go back and give it another go? :D

Love the video! You should consider riding a fixed gear (brakeless) for one of your videos. Going downhill on a 49/15 is pretty wild.

I'm currently building up a Serotta Colorado CRL frameset which I bought for $10 (~1993). All newer components. I expect this frame to suck compared to newer bikes, just like the countless older bikes I've owned, but it'll be fun to check it out.

Shimano wears out, campag wears in :)

The nice thing about a steel frame is that it can be "spread" by a competent frame builder to accomodate a wider axle. Back in the 80's, we did this when Suntour came out with the "Ultra 6", then "Ultra 7" clusters (the Ultra-7 worked on a frame designed for 6-speed cluster) -- it may not seem like it but those were revolutionary compared to the pior Regina 5-speed clusters found on high-end bikes. About the same time, Sedis came out with a $6 chain that put the expensive $30 Regina chainis to shame. Old Campagnolo derailleurs were limited to 24-tooth cogs.

still riding my 1983 Trek 510 from school days. Been doing 240-280km a week on it this summer. It's updated with DT Swiss wheels and fairly new Dura Ace derailleur, etc, similar to your Serotta. I don't plan on racing Cory or Justin in LA, so it's fast enough. :)

Hi Jasper, what kind of shoes are you wearing? Really cool video as always!

Cool video.

That canyon looked like it would be easier to ride.

Those old steel road bikes are like finely crafted jewelry

Hey Jasper! Nice seeing you on German roads. To your power numbers. Sweet spot between 330 and 360 is huge. Would you mind sharing your training plan? Thanks!

But this is even better cos mine is not a hand selector shifter. Shifter's on the frame

Love it how you spell "Nürnberg" the dutch way! Like "Nünbech"

Hey man! New cycling fanatic here, loving your videos! I was just wondering what's the model of that gps you ride with in this video?

This is the same type of bike i have that am gonna be using for my 150km training ride tomorrow . I don't have money to buy a better bike. I just manage what i got. Wish me luck guys

I still regularly ride my 35 yr old 7spd bike. It has downtube shifters and is 12kg ready to ride. There is definitely no chance to use a bail out gear on the hills, so you have to just grin, grind and bear it. When i ride my carbon bike which is 5kg lighter i feel like superman 😁💪

Yes, my frame is still my grandfatheres frame, its components are modern, but the frame is cromoly 1980 trek cut from a 30inch wheels to 700c. Hey jasper, can you make a video how you got that life? I really want to live like that racing for a living and youre an inspiration. Can you make a video about it thank you

Don't forget too, the Old Heros had to use downtube shifters.

3:46 should have asked for the Canyon TT bike

And you didn’t get the Raleigh shirt? Forget sirocco ;-P

Soooo cool 😛 🤘😝

oh, one other thing -- back when that bike was built, there was great debate about the power efficiency versus cadence and gearing. We didn't have the same intrumentation we do now and many road racers used quite tall gears (you considered yourself a badass if you ran a 'straight-block" and were able to get up your climbs. It was Lance Armstrong who kicked the door in with respect to much lower gearing to get optimum power in the pro peleton on climbs -- I belive he actually used a tripple crankset on one pro race. 42/52 was the standard chainring configuration since the smallest rear cog was 12 teeth since the cassette hub had not yet been invented. (shimano was able to squeeze an 11 cog back then).

Hah! That's the same frame as my primary road bike. With the original Shimano 600 group, you can run a 53-39 crank and a 12-28 cassette. Still takes some mashing, but it's modern enough!

Hi! I really like your videos! Now I have seen you carry a camera with you on your back for a 120 km ride. What is the point? Is it that much better then a modern phone, or the gopro you normally carry with you? How do you use that "old school" camera on your rides?

30.5 kmh average in a hilly region on a vintage steel bike 😱💪👌

If your ever in Manchester let people know it has some great flat rides and hilly rides

I love my old vintage steel race bikes , lol 😂 they will put hair on your chest.