I owned 2 of them. Earlier serial numbered ones index to the left. If you shot it too much the screw would come out and the gun would fall apart. Side note, don't drink and gunbroker.

The sawed off revolver ones do have some historical precedent! Ian had a period one on his channel, as I recall it appeared to be a home gunsmithing job, but does indicate that it's something people might have done, whether or not it was a good idea

Well thanks for the info I may have to just get an old one that looks nice as a wall hanger, Even if they did make a good reproduction I can't see my self shooting it much.

A "sawed off revolver" is not a Pepperbox. I have one of those myself which I have replicated and will discuss that later.

@@InrangeTv I agree with you totally! Just felt it was relevant since you mentioned the janky Traditions ones! I look forward to that video greatly

Correct! :)

The rammers used in the loading of cap and ball revolvers were steel, so were most ramrods used to load military muskets

@@deadhorse1391 And people used to shoot without hearing/eye protection until very recently. Doesn't make it a good idea.

Don't tell OSHA but I used to work on gas pumps without buying the required non-sparking tools due to the phobitive cost... Luckily brass tools for black powder are relatively inexpensive, so I've always valued my appendages more, atleast during hobby time 😁👍

@@TheGunner11 I think the chance of an iron ram rod causing a gun to go off is non existent in Even if it did cause a spark which is very unlikely a tight fitting ball would be between the spark and the powder charge Personally I would worry more about loading the barrels out of the gun with caps on the nipples but even then as long as you don’t drop them and the cap gets hit shouldn’t have any problems...things would get exciting though if it did. I saw an original 1860 go off as it was being loaded before. Had been used with paper cartridges and I think it had an paper ember in the chamber that set the loose powder off when loaded from the flask. Very lucky that the flask didn’t go up.

Likely a cowboy subdivision where everyone had weapons from the same period

@@gholland5840 "1st of 36 shooters." I would venture not. I don't think the backup gun matches really have divisions. From what I understand, it is just a fun, "run what you brung" match, that is tailored to low round count, close range firearms.

@@gholland5840 I think backup gun match is just 1 pistol, maximum 5 shots loaded (and no reloads allowed/required on stage) and maybe some limits on weight/size (not sure about that, though). So no divisions or anything like that. At least that's my understanding from seeing Ian's videos of these.

@@dposcuro The BUG match here has divisions. There's BUG Pistol and BUG Revolver (must fit in the BUG box to qualify), Hideout (must fit in the even smaller Hideout box to qualify) and Big 5 (anything too big to fit into the aforementioned boxes). Big Five is like Open class, just about anything goes, but you have to start with only 5 rounds in the initial magazine which generally forces a reload on every stage. I generally run my Beretta 81BB, and with its 12+1 capacity I almost never have to reload on a stage.

I do too!

Same, I kinda wish for a modern take on it. Think a semiauto micro gatling.

An elegant weapon for more civilized times.

I think you are right

Well, that depends on your goals. If your goal is to have an effective self-defense weapon, then, yeah, aesthetic doesn't matter. But if you want to have a cool gun?

Dangerous? Nah. Unreliable? Nah. Inaccurate? Yeah lol

Hey, if you're trying to sell some unsafe, unreliable early single action revolvers in the late 1830s, you're going to need some attack ads against the competition...

Kinda funny how it caught on huh...lol like how many folks like to bag on Hi-Point even though they make an economically feasible +p firing pistol, and as of 2021 shot show double stack too.

To be fair it probably was if people didn't maintain them correctly, and my guess is a lot of people didn't maintain them correctly. Even today there's tons of people who barely ever clean their guns but because they have a glock it just keeps working.

@@stilllife8 or it goes further back to flint lock pepper boxes

It was the civilians gun, since he didn't manufacture for the government, but they find these pistols on battle fields I have one I did a video on with the bullet mold and powered Flask I need the ram rod

Yeah, because no useless things is popular nowadays right? There is nothing pppular today that is not crap and people do it just because everyone else is doing right?

​@@Fundas-bikesname one

@@redsentry9785 pet rock, millions of game copies on app store. Just look at all the books sold to get rich quickly, and things like it, completely useless but people buy it.

The perfect accessory being a sword cane. Five shots and cold steel

Just as the Founding Fathers intended...

Here we're about the oldies but goodies

Now I want to reintroduce a new version of this for the younger, hip-hop generation, the Pepper Boi.

" here is a high capacity 9mm pistol, it is the best solution for self-defense" I thought you were talking about the pepperbox lol.

shut up and take my money!

@@danielbretall2236 sounds like something Hi-Point might do

Karl and capandball are the 2 best channels.

@@KR-hg8be I like Mike Bellevue on duelist1954 as well.

Cap and ball is also up there in terms of quality.

britishmuzzleloaders is absolutely worth taking a look at. He's excellent.

capandball offers a retort

QUAD damage

Bethesda developed it. The chain fire is just the random critical hit chance working as intended.

probably better against a single target

Well, not that shocked.

@@forrest6132 We call it being tasered these days.

Would it be viable to drill out the cones and tap the holes to accept nipples?

@@Terry_Fritz looks like it. Even if you had to machine your own nipples due to size constraints it looks like you could drill it out tap it and add a nipple. I would assume because it takes the same size percussion cap that any standard Italian repro nipple would not be too big to be made to work

Use stainless steel rivets. You can thread one end and prepare the originals. I use rivets for firing cap nipples in cap locks I've made. It's not too hard to figure out how to make it work.

Glad it was helpful! There are no legitimate reproductions of Pepperboxes and I doubt we'll ever see one. The things on the market now are junk.

@@InrangeTv Ian has a video from 5 years ago on a pepperbox, but he wasn't able to dis-assemble it. You should loan him this one when you get a chance so we can see how the internals work :) I appreciate you running this in the BUG match for us that was pretty cool.

@@taogold6022 its probably not much different from a standard double action pistol of that period tbh, just has an extended hammer. The location of the hand etc are very similar to standard revolvers.

Sounds great!

The GURPS system includes a pepperbox in the High Tech supplement, along with twelve other 1800s revolvers

When I was a kid and people still played board games our version of clue had a little tin pepperbox revolver for the "pistol" in the game. Funny how things change but stay the same

Critical Role did this as well, check out Percy and see how they did their system.

@@tazman40k4 In hindsight with this video, Percy's pepperbox is hilarious. Weighs 5 pounds, has an accurate range of 100 feet, can be completely reloaded in a matter of seconds, and is often rendered inoperable by a misfire. It's like the complete opposite of what a pepperbox actually was.

More than s333

Usually notches are kill counters...

Notches are normally indicating kills

That would be kills with said weapon was very common in the old days of the country

True.

To you maybe it's most impressive. But to me, here in God's green 2021 as we slip fall and demonstrably struggle to stay where we're at let alone get back up... I'd say, it's just a Thursday *_; P_*

ideally you just start making them! I bet there are a few collectors who would buy a well made modern replica!

@@AYellowPepper start with repairing them, them move into making new production. i think you could probably drill out the old nipples, then tap the hole and add in with a modern screw in nipple.

@@MrPhoenixpro that's actually a genius idea for how to repair them

@@AYellowPepper I'd buy one.

That sounds like a great idea. A little bit of new material added on top, then grind/file it to a good shape. Plus, you'd probably be **forced** to test them out to make sure they fire ;)

or for any other viewer outside of the US

@@stevenwoods8267 Canadians and Brits still use imperial (Even though technicality the US doesn't use it), Canada still almost exclusively uses it.

I could chuck pebbles more accurately than that POS.

😂

S666 👹

@Robert Sears it wasnt

Ditto!

That would be like a vintage S333 Thunderstruck

why not all six barrels?

@@OberGefreiterZ Just salvo it all in there, huh? You know... if it's a muzzle loader, NFA doesn't apply. Snub nose 20ga! That say "hi, how ya doin" in a big damn way.

Pro tip: will only work if you treat your customers like crap

@@OberGefreiterZ That's called a shotgun. As Kevin D points out, at that point you may do better to stick to one shot at a time, make it in .615-calibre and load it with paper packets of 18 .225 balls. Even if you make it single-shot, at that point you have one SCARY piece of fully functional pirate costume.

Thanks so much!

Do some looking into the Girandoni Air Rifle from the late 1700s. Now that was some blessed repeating fire power for it's time. ^.-.^

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon I'll definitely have to aquaint myself more with pre American Civil War firearms. And general history too. It's hard to know where to begin, as American history is so vast and full of events.

YoU wanna see that 1500s revolver. Even multi barrel handgonne.

The manufacturing cost will quickly outstrip the minimal demand and you'll lose your shirt.

@@InrangeTv so you're saying I'll also look sexy doing it? Nice.

@@InrangeTv I will peddle my wares shirtless if needs be. Also, DEFCAD has some tantalizing pepperbox 22's worth risking a hand over....

Much appreciated!

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@@andersbendsen5931 Can't hurt.

Thank you kindly!

They wouldn't be wrong. It's a piece of shit but it's not totally obsolete, and it is definitely affordable. A gun's a gun.

@@marmite8959 The only problem I have with it is the disassembly.

Had he only been killing women up to that point?

@@brabhamfreaman166 He had to start somewhere, but he only killed sinful women.

@@brabhamfreaman166 or as they used to say, "not counting indians and mexicans"

Glad you enjoyed it!

People tend to hold ignorant opinions about lots of things they have no direct experience with.

Or buying one and saving the rest for... something. Idk, get drunk?

Carry 5 of them. They look pretty light weight. The firepower!

I concur ! ! ! 😎👍

Might be Royal Flash you are thinking of. Don't remember that scene but I do remember the baddie showing his new fangled pepperbox off.

@@garethhunt6845 thx, I’ll check it out.

@@Pablo668 Meh. The books are hilarious, about as un-Pc as you can imagine and historically accurate to an insane degree. The movie is an okay way to kill 90 minutes at best.

What ! Snakes in Australia?!? 😎

@@BIG-DIPPER-56 I know right who would thought it

Let's be honest, most lore is. 🤷‍♂️

I thought that was weird, too.

Makes sense considering steampunk esthetic is vaguely mid 1800s

Thanks for watching!

Maxwell Smart, is that YOU!

Which would explain all the unfair bad-mouthing about the gun.

Only, better. XD

None were issued, but you could easily purchase one for a day's pay.

@@kylejohnson423 I would have.

@@MarkHansen1990 In addition, a colt revolver would probably cost your whole paycheck. So the pepperbox was the high point pistol of its day. Especially when not every solder was given a sidearm.

@@kylejohnson423 good point.

I'm sure there's some one off weird thing on FW, but not really, not in any practical numbers.

You're welcome!

@@InrangeTv I know it's a far fetched idea, but *someday* I would like to meet my namesake and also Ian!! Maybe burn some powder with them. I aim *high* !! LOL