I love the 1858 Remingtons. If 6 shots wouldn't do the job, you have 2 1/2 lbs. of hammer to work with.

Hey Hickok, a good solution to the dry fire problem is to use a snap cap in the cylinder you put the hammer down on. This way it doesn't matter if you dry fire to make sure the gun is empty. By the way, there is no problem with dropping the hammer on already fired cartridges, since the spent primer takes the impact.

Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider used the Remington and carried spare cylinders on his belt much like we do with speed loaders today. They show him reloading just before the final shoot out. I always thought that was a cool effect.Gabby

I cannot stress enough that cap and ball revolvers are not toys. They were used with deadly effect for about 45 years (1836 to the early 1880s) and are still deadly. The late gun writer Elmer Keith, who was taught how to use cap and ball sixguns by Civil War veterans, wrote, "For its size and weight, nothing is so deadly as a pure lead ball driven at 1,000 feet per second." The ghosts of millions would sigh and agree. Give a cap and ball sixgun the same respect you would any modern firearm.

Those Remingtons are absolutely beautiful!

Love this man.My son says he hides his light under a bushel,champion pistol shooter in the 90's and he knows how to handle a gun.

I am a huge fan of the Remington revolvers. I own a 1858 and a 1875 both made by Uberti of Italy. When he speaks of caliber, he is spot on. The black powder round balls from Hornady that work well with the '58 are .451" or a .45 caliber. This is why the .45 Colt cartridge is the choice for conversions.

I'm reminded of the movie Pale Rider and how Clint Eastwood speed loaded his by just swapping out cylinders

I have one of these and I love it. Takes forever to load but shoots pretty straight and surprises people at the range. I got one of the conversation cylinders and it cost more then I paid for the gun. Mine has Pieta/Uberti stamped on the barrel.

1858 Remington is my favorite classic handgun...god that thing is beautiful.

I have the 38sp conversion and it is my second favorite pistol for Cowboy Action Shooting. Very smooth and reliable. The weight absorbs all the recoil so I can stay on target.

I got a .44 Sile New model Army that was made in Italy in 1953. It was my grandfathers and I just shot it for the first time yesterday and loved it. I have and shot AR's, Bolt guns, lever action, Regular semiauto handguns and today's revolvers but this was my first time shooting a black powder and I fell in love 😍 Why haven't I done this years ago is beyond me. Thanks for the very good information

That cylinder cost as much as the whole revolver.

Getting the cylinder in and out of the frame is easier if you remember that it comes out the right-hand side, but goes in on the left-hand side. It has to do with catching and the lifter that rotates the cylinder around. I also found it helps to rotate the cylinder a bit as I put it in.

Another great video, love the hickok45 channel

Interesting. I guess dry powder was more certain. No caps to fall off or jam, when they did reload, easier & wind & rain wasn't an issue. No chain firing which in battle could well happen as no extra precautions would be used. Also less kit to carry, just brass loaded ammo. I think if I had been in the army, & had the choice, I would have had the conversation. That said, here in N. Ireland, this Saturday, I don't expect to be under the same pressure so I will stay cap & ball. Thanks for sharing as an owner of this gun & brand I found it very interesting.

Hickock you totally read my mind! i just received my 1858 in 44 , with the 45 conversion cylinder on its way and this whole video i was waiting to hear you call out the calibers. You had me nervous for a second lmao. Thanks again for another awesome video!

Basically the same rig as the one Clint Eastwood carried in "Pale Rider." Loved the history lesson, HK45. Hope you're enjoying your retirement even more than we're enjoying your consistently excellent vids.

I use the 1858 Pietta .45 LC 5 shot cylinder by HOWELL Old West Conversions. The cylinder has a notch between the chambers, on which you can rest the hammer. Since it's a 5 shot, it has 5 chambers with much thicker walls which makes it a lot stronger. It fits perfectly out of the box and cheaper than the other brands.

If one can afford to get a few cylinders you can speed load these Guns pretty fast once you practice a few times at the range of course they're great for home defense and the Sheriffs Model fits nicely in a Night Stand . Thank You for the video and God Bless You And Family.

Your aim is spot on, almost every single damn shot! wow, that is amazing!

excellent review, very interesting and quality conversion cylinder I'm sure a lot of black powder revolver owners will appreciate.

Hickock, we need to get you a pair of Ruger Old Army revolvers. Ruger are you listening? Please make them again!

I always loved the way Clint reloaded in Pale Rider. It was kinda intimidating, but cool.

My only regret was getting the 8” barrel. That 5 1/2” looks sweet

I love the Remington, the firing cap would hangout up on my colts. But never in the Remington. Also it was easier to change the cylinders out to reload.

I keep one of these loaded in my nightstand as a house gun. Sealed the caps with clear nail polish. Dowel seated them. 200 grain Lee conical sized to fit tightly. 30 grains of Triple Seven sitting on top of five grains of Swiss null B. Don't take my advice on that one, but it has proven to be safe in my stainless Uberti. ABSOLUTELY reliable, and at least as powerful as basic .45ACP ball. Here I sit sipping oak aged rum smoking a Lucky Strike watching Hickok45 shoot the guns of yesteryear. Life is good.

The first time I have seen this model with a conversion. Very interesting and good shooting as usual.

I've been shooting these conversions for years, had no problems. The loading lever works better for me than a stick for stubborn cases, though - and is always at hand.. I would suggest using a buffer and rouge in a dremel to polish the cylinder every three or four cleanings, it helps. Several years ago "Guns of the Old W est" magazine ran a test of these Remington Conversions, 30 or so shooters, ranging from novice through experienced, and to their surprise found that consistently it was faster to drop out one of these cylinders, dump cases, reload and reinsert; than it was to load a Peacemaker through a gate! I know I sold a repro Remington 1875 "gate-loader" because I could load these faster. Go figure.

Now those are some very nice guns. Very interesting information about the bore size too and how that was measured. Great video!

I really enjoyed this video! Clint Eastwood used a Remington Revolver in Pale Rider. I would have definitely felt well armed carry a brace of Remington's back in the late 1860's-early 1870's....

A common misconception is that his shooting range is covered with gravel. The truth is, it is nothing but spent casings!

Love the BP conversions, fascinating history AND fun to shoot!

Your video's keep getting better and better! Thanks and keep it up.

Good video, Hickok45. It is an excellent history lesson about conversions for a percussion cylinder to a cartridge cylinder in old revolvers. And, it's also a quick explanation about why those old guns are actually .45 caliber revolvers. Plus, Hickok45 must be the toughest kid in the neighborhood; he leaves the loop on the back of his shirt, because no one would dare lock a padlock onto that loop.

Just bought the Pietta Remington 44cal Black Powder Revolver And it's such a beautiful work of Art 🎨 I don't even want to handle it to much let alone shoot it 😂. So I may just hang it on the wall as a talking piece. These Black Powder Revolvers made in Italy 🇮🇹 are a work of Art !!!!!!! Thanks for the video and God Bless You And Family. Amen

Oklahoma state law requires all 21 year old able body males purchase a cap and ball revolver (no brass frame).

About your discussion on the whole "why is it a .44 barrel and shoots a .45 cartridge?" thing here is some info for ya: the .44 caliber ball rounds (those for blackpowder) can range anywhere in measurements from .433 to .454 thousands of an inch and the .45 caliber bullet (those designed for use in cartridges) usually measures anywhere from .452 to .451. So that being said, a .44 caliber ball is the same as a .45 caliber bullet. Though you were close you were also pretty far away with the whole "it's the rifling diameter" thing. I am glad you said "I think" instead of "I know".

The cylinder has a notch cut into it, so you can rest the hammer into.... load six, and safely carry six... yep I own one, and love it.

Love the old videos. Hickok keeping history alive

I thought the beauty of a 1858 is you can carry it fully loaded. That's what the notches are for in the cylinder.

Liked the intro lol

I love these and the 1875s. Didn't know there was a conversion! Something else to add to my wish list.

I recently ordered me and received an Uberti 1858 Remington style new model army .44 caliber revolver from Dixie gun works online and a fluted 6 shot Howell .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder for it from midway USA. I ordered them with overnight shipping this past weekend and got them both on Tuesday and made an unboxing video and posted it on my channel. I live in MA. and even in MA. I could get both shipped to my MA. address. Ammo is a different story. Yesterday I drove 275 miles on an ammo run to the cabelas in Hamburg PA. to score me some HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy load cartridges and I was successful! I got the last 2 boxes they had in stock! I then had a successful ammo run celebration meal at the Cracker Barrel near there and drove 275 miles back to where I live in Springfield MA. It is a very tight fit getting it in my piece but I checked the alignment by inserting a cleaning rod and a .40 caliber drum jag with a dry patch on it down the barrel into the chamber and it aligns fine. The cocking action with it is ok although it could be a might smoother. Over time with use it will probably go in smoother and cock smoother

I cast a .445 ball that works in Remington .44 and also in a .45 Kentucky rifle but patched. So in my experience a .445 can be either depending on the lands and grooves Remington had a stronger design than Colt Great video

I have one made by pietta in Stainless steel with the conversion cylinder. One of my most accurate handguns. Fun to shoot. I take this one with me when I go out on a hunt. It’s just a fun sidearm to have.

Before I realized what was happening, I thought you had the strongest wrists in the world!

My eyes are bulging from my head and im foaming at the mouth but my wallet is giving me the stink eye and thus, these purchases must wait another day.

Ive always been a remington fan, I love my 870 express magnum and my SR45. I've always wanted these cause when I was younger I'd seen this gun in video games known as a new model army. That and some movies and just the overall look and design has made me want to own one of these guns

On my colt and ubertis - So i don't dry fire on an empty cylinder i safely load the sixth cylinder that is normally empty with a snap cap. Works every time, and saves the pin from being damaged.

Instead of counting rounds, you can stick a snap cap in the empty space in the cylinder. You can also stick in a spent casing, but I think the snap cap works better.

You could probably keep a snap cap in place for the empty chamber to avoid damaging the firing pin.

I love a nice, heavy pistol. Its great knowing that you can probably keep fighting by bludgeoning your enemy once you run out of ammunition. Not the Desert Eagle though... That was a bit too chunky for me.

Bought one of these from uberti and the conversion cylinder recently, tons of fun! and the ammo lasts a while I've been tempted to load up all 6 chambers from time to time but I'll be honest, it's not the easiest to re-seat the cylinder and I am understanding why they don't want you to do that now, it's a real struggle to get the dang thing in there safely sometimes

I fell I love with the conversions after seeing Clint Eastwood use the new model 1861 in Pale Rider when I was a kid.

I’ve had 1851 Navy colts since 1989. First pistol “other than air guns” I had ever fired. Colts or colt clone navies are my favorite to this day. My experience with Remington New Army guns is they get fouled up very easily compared to the colts. Unless you already have a Remington New Army don’t waste time buying a conversion cylinder. Buy a factory built conversion you’ll have the same money in it and it’ll shoot regular factory loads. I have recently bought an Uberti “Richards Mason” based off of the 1851 navy in .38 special. It’s great! I hear the Uberti New army in .45 is great as well.

As the gun was made in Europe; was that stick you picked metric??

The Remingtons are my favourite in the way it looks

Don’t have this type of conversion, but I do have two 1858 conversions (factory conversions) by Uberti, one in 44-40 & one in 45 colt. Got them to along with my 1875’s (favorite six shooters). 👍🏼🤠

I bought a Pietta reproduction of the 1858 N.A.M. Remington 18 years ago. It's a percussion one. I love it, and buy... How accurate it is at long range ! I haven't shot it in a while, but I have always said I'd try it with Minie bullets.

Hickok45 I love you to piece, but you got your facts flipped. The Colt model 1860 was being sold to the Union forces for more than double the cost of the 1858 new model Remington revolvers from the start. it was Samuel Colt who was taken to task by Congress for price gouging and was forced to lower the price to Remington's cost when they discovered the large price difference.

Hickok45 Have you seen Hell on Wheels, first season the main character uses a Confederate knock off of the Colt and then the Remington but whats surprising about the show is that it actually shows him reloading by changing the cylinders.

I know you posted this video years ago. But it's still very informative. I got my mitts on a revolver carbine at the Wanenmacher's show. It has a conversion cylinder in it. I'm looking forward to putting some lead down range with it soon.

Old habits DIE HARD. I laughed out loud when he couldn't help but give it one last click. Decades of safety conditioning means it just does not feel good to miss a step that you're used to taking. Loved that.

Thanks for another one Greg. I just found one for sale and couldn't get to the seller fast enough. I do have a SAA but alone here as I might be, gotta say that I find the 1858 Remington way nicer looking than the Colt SAA. OK, so if everyone is finished throwing rocks in my direction, I haven't stated the Colt 1873 is ugly, just that the Remington is prettier, way prettier. What's not to like? More moving parts so that has to be a plus and not only that but packing the chambers gives one time to contemplate what everyone is up to, right? Hmmm .... new cap ball assault weapon. It may not be fast but it is slow.

The Kirst Konvertor lets you load it like a Colt SAA with a loading gate, but you have to remove metal from the frame. Still, much easier to load.

Next to my Thompson Contender, my black powder 1858 is the most accurate handgun I've ever owned and do own

I'm looking forward to converting my Pietta version. I love shooting black powder also and it's nice to have both worlds.

Had one of these a few years back. It was fun to shoot. I didn't mind the slow loading. I would like to get a Walker or Dragoon.

Clint Eastwood used a Remington in"Pale Rider."

They also take a .451 ball when shooting black powder. There is also a warning not to shoot smokeless powders.

This was the first handgun I ever bought because I wasn't old enough yet to buy a handgun but I was able to buy a black powder revolver then buy the conversion cylinder for it. Lol

i love remington guns but im in the uk so we have strict gun laws and cant use these guns for many legal reasons and restrictions. i would love to be able to have and shoot them as you do here.

Hickok never misses, what's going on! LOL

I have a Pietta and mine is a Howell. Dropped right in. Great stuff Mr. Hickok.

The correct ball size for .44 cal capnballs is around .450-.455. The ball is slightly larger than the cylinder and barrel bores. This is to achieve as good of a seal as possible. The little lead rings you get are the extra .01 in the caliber. Conversion cylinders are bored out slightly more to accept the brass cartridge, and what happens here is more like a modern gun. The lead bullet hits the barrel cone and either gets shaved or smashed into the rifling, achieving an even better seal. Its not recommended using copper jacket bullets because of this. The barrels are designed for soft lead that the barrel can easily mold into shape

I recently read somewhere that the reason these guns "and the Single Action Army" shot high, was because the U.S.Army required the pistol to be sighted at 50 yards. I just recently was given a Colt gen 2 SAA in .45 Colt and I am now off on a new adventure in my shooting career, leaning the history of these great American Inventions. I really enjoyed this video.

I just noticed that the conversion cylinder does not have the notches between the cylinders. On the standard (cap-and-ball) cylinder the notches allow you to drop the hammer in the notch between the cylinders and safely carry a fully-loaded revolver. The conversion - load 5, the only safe choice.

I find it amazing that patent rights could prevent either side acquiring the most advanced weapons in war time. The Colt grip filled the hand better than the Remington, strange why there are no aftermarket fuller grips.

One of the first few to watch this awesome video!

Can't wait to get my first BP revolver and rifle. I've got so many ar's I need to counter balance the collection lol.

These cartridge conversions are such a cool subject.

It looked like without Remington, Colt wouldn't have been able to create the Peacemaker.

15:20.......That's what she said.

I have an original that was converted to .45 colt in the early 1870s. It was used on the confederate side. Love this gun!

I absolutely respect the fact that you go from this to highpoint to .308 scout rifles. You would be the best neighbor of all time

hickok45 and Duelist 1954 The two best on the web

When you have a bias you are going to find a lot of things wrong such as the "feel" or the "balance" but at the end of the day, Remington was the superior gun.

If I remember correctly (and that is always a scary thing,) these were originally sighted for 100 yards. so they always shoot high. Nice video.

I like the sheriffs model

You explained way more than anyone else on youtube great video

In a pinch use the end of the loading lever to eject the cases. =)

Hey Hickok.. Thank you for including the link to Duelist1954's channel.. He did do quite a few videos regarding these conversions. I was originally going to buy the sheriffs model that you went over in this video, but instead I bought the Uberti version of the1866 Remington revolving rifle that Duelist did a video on.. It is pretty sweet :) I already spent the money to buy the appropriate conversion cylinder, and I can't wait to shoot it. Maybe some day you will do a video on that particular gun as well :) I think you would like it. Thanks again Hickok.. Your videos always help me out (though my wallet doesn't like you very much :) )

According to CW diaries, on the Western Front the standard trade value of one Remington 58 was as many Colt Army models as you could pick up with one hand - by the barrels!

Boy do I Miss it, those were the days... out in the plane or in to the mountain on your horse with one of this on your side ......🌟

Reminds me of Ed Harris's gun from west world. However, that was a Lemat not a Remington. So........ It was still a cartridge conversion.

this vid makes me want to watch Clint Eastwood in the movie Pale Rider

He is like somebodies cool uncle.I like listening to him talk

Nice.

I really enjoy your channel. Have been watching for several years. Thank you for doing what you do. Anyway, I just inherited two black powder pistols and I am planning to do the conversion. One is marked 44 40 and the other 36. Both made in Italy. I am assuming these can only be converted to shoot 44 40 or 36. I don't know anything about these pistols, the calibers, etc.