1859 Vinegar Pie (Hint: It's NOT From The Great Depression)

1859 Vinegar Pie (Hint: It's NOT From The Great Depression) - Old Cookbook Show

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1859 Vinegar Pie (Hint: It's NOT From The Great Depression) - Old Cookbook Show
Today we look at vinegar pie - this is something that is most often called a Great Depression Recipe, or Great Depression Pie; but it is from long before the Great Depression.
VINEGAR PIE. Take a gill of cider or vinegar, one quart of water, a tea-cup of molasses. or sugar enough to make it sweet,
stir in half a dozen spoonfuls of four, put in on the fire and let it boil.
Bake with two crusts, or put the top crust on in strips if it is liked better.
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@BDylanHollis Жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate how reality tussles with sensationalism. I've regrettably danced with the issue often. Seems many simply like the idea that: "the depression was so bad they had to use VINEGAR in their pies!" - Never does the true (and oft more interesting) history much justice. Thank you for the informative video.

@AD-kv9kj Жыл бұрын

Still gross though. So many old recipes seemed so desperate to just use up random ingredients in everything. "Eeer, we gotta shedload of vinegar still...let's just convince everyone to use it up in pies!"

@shirleyannconfer9651 Жыл бұрын

I’m impressed that one of the content creators that I watch regularly is also a fan of this KZfaq channel!

@jmbkpo Жыл бұрын

@@AD-kv9kj it's called cooking, grow up

@asianshell Жыл бұрын

@@shirleyannconfer9651 yes, same!

@artistpw Жыл бұрын

The people may have not had access to much. No modern grocery stores. In WWII, they also had to deal with rationing so didn't have access to some foods.

@nicolelasher Жыл бұрын

As I understand from some old folks in my family, vinegar pie liquid is basically a base to hold fruit scraps and stale bread, or whatever neutral tasting stuff you have around the kitchen that needs getting rid of before it spoils. I've even heard people putting in leftover potatoes, carrots, and anything that has some chew. Mash or chop it up, and nobody really knows what was in the pie. The vinegar kind of binds all the smells and flavors together. One would definitely also use some sort of allspice or cinnamon mixture as well.

@Klwjjj 4 ай бұрын

I remember my grandma making something similar and she would use a potato. As you say - no one knows the difference. 😊

@ginya15 Жыл бұрын

In late 50s, my Mom would threaten us “ eat your dinner or I’ll make a vinegar pie for your dinner” until my sister Dotty made one and it really wasn’t that bad.

@zaynamoore Жыл бұрын

Vinegar Pie is referenced in The Little House on the Prairie series which were based on family life circa 1870...so quite some time before the Depression era.

@essaboselin5252 Жыл бұрын

That's the first time I heard of it as well. Never once considered it to be a Depression Era recipe.

@juliao8428 Жыл бұрын

That was where I first heard of it as well.

@shelleyhender8537 Жыл бұрын

Bless you Sheri - I loved “Little House on the Prairie”…and still do years later! I feel like a “dying breed”, as I rarely hear of anyone mention this show and “Anne of Green Gables”! I bought the series this past year and started watching an episode from time to time. Hope you are having an awesome day!☺

@krazycatz Жыл бұрын

YES!!! That’s where I first heard about it too!!!

@heleneminger Жыл бұрын

I have been reading this series to my children and they are loving it

@amyeagleton697 Жыл бұрын

My mom and grandma would take those leftover pie crust pieces, put cinnamon sugar on them, and bake them. So tasty, and it kept the kids from begging for the actual pie, lol

@violetwithey4618 Жыл бұрын

Mine too. They spread it lightly with butter, margarine,Grandma called it Oleo. Then the cinnamon and sugar.

@annethomson4920 Жыл бұрын

@@violetwithey4618 we had ours with Jam , custard , cream or ice cream or maybe all 4

@crackersmom2679 Жыл бұрын

Yep! I did that when my kids were at home, now I do that for my grandchildren. I loved it and so do they!

@kathrynmaharaj9265 Жыл бұрын

Here in Quebec they are called "pet des soeurs" which means "Nuns Farts"

@terramarini6880 Жыл бұрын

My mom did that too, butter, cinnamon sugar, rolled up like a little crescent roll. I did the same for my kids/husband.

@josephdeveau3584 Жыл бұрын

This show has become a standard part of my Sunday morning routine: walk and coffee, grab a montreal style bagel, watch the Old Cookbook Show while eating my bagel, and then hit the gym.

@derekh989 Жыл бұрын

Same, I make coffee and then check to see if Glen's video is up yet.

@mattjohnson6227 Жыл бұрын

Same. Coffee and the old cookbook show are my Sunday mornings.

@SeventhSwell Жыл бұрын

Kinda the same except I honestly don't have a Sunday routine outside of watching this channel. This channel is my Sunday routine.

@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын

Make a Sunday (more involved) breakfast, perk the coffee, sit down and watch the Old Cookbook Show. No gym, but I can go out on my porch, look at the 14,000 ft. mountain I live near, and fondly remember when I could hike it.

@NyxaGrayheart Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile I wake up in the middle of the afternoon (sundays are my sleep in day) roll out of bed and have my coffee while watching.

@Abpgsetiloincawdyubkolmbrs Жыл бұрын

As this pie hails from Pennsylvania, it’s cousins in Waterloo county would have likely been made with apple molasses. Apple cider boiled down till thick, as you would maple syrup.

@n1gak Жыл бұрын

first thing that popped into my mind: In the mid-80s, my sister found a recipe in a magazine for a vinegar pie, attributed to settlers on the Oregon Trail (magazine was called "Old West" or something like that). We made it for a family meal, my younger brother and I loved it, my father hated it. "Vinegar pie" became a term in our family for "something that seemed like a good idea, but did not meet expectactions" (Going on to watch the rest of the video now)

@hatjodelka Жыл бұрын

My first impression from the UK, when seeing the title was "Vinegar pie? What on earth is that?" I have never heard of it before. The main thrifty recipes come from the second world war when rationing was strict. Sugar and molasses (black treacle here) were very rare then as well as butter. Perhaps Lord Woolton pie is the equivalent.

@mitchellgehman4605 Жыл бұрын

As a resident of Lancaster, I feel compelled to mention that Lancaster is pronounced "Lanc-ister", like there is an "i" instead of an "a". Cool recipe, love to see some representation of my corner of the world

@pamelacrowell2007 Жыл бұрын

You commented on the amount of filling. Back then, the pie pans were more shallow. I inherited some of my great-grandmother's kitchen items and the pie pans were definitely not the size we use today.

@GlenAndFriendsCooking Жыл бұрын

Yep - that's why I used a smaller pan, and it could have been smaller still.

@randeebecker2455 Жыл бұрын

Nor the cake tins either.

@regenabaine4949 Жыл бұрын

Oh! Good catch. Now that you’ve said it I feel silly not having realized that myself.

@hoovesandpaws Жыл бұрын

Hi Glenn...My Mamaw and Mom used to make this pie and also Water Pie alot. I learned to make my own vinegars from them. So...I use my homemade vinegars which are various flavors ... apple, banana, blackberry, etc. Using one of these flavored vinegars really enhances this pie. And a dab of my homemade complimentary extract really makes a better pie!

@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын

Would you please share with me, how to make Raspberry Vinegar? Thanks

@elizabethbednar6338 Жыл бұрын

Banana vinegar sounds so odd to me

@ange4739 Жыл бұрын

Really ? Would you share your recipes & how to ?

@hoovesandpaws Жыл бұрын

@@busimagen Yes and I still do. Right along with pickles and syrup and relish.

@smallfootprint2961 Жыл бұрын

@@busimagen ... My mom made watermelon rind pickles. They were good. Like a bread and butter pickle.

@quintessenceSL Жыл бұрын

Something I've witnessed with events I have first-hand knowledge of is the re-writing of history (intentional or not) and dissemination through the web from people whose research/opinions are maybe one degree removed from wikipedia. It has impressed upon me the need to track down original sources (and even that is going to be a bit fraught) and nullius in verba.

@Amelia.A.T. Жыл бұрын

My sister and I were watching, and we both remembered our family vinegar pie. We use my great-grandmother's recipe, which is likely a late nineteenth century recipe (my mother's mother's mother used to make it for my grandmother when she was a girl, and grandma was born in 1901). It had an egg and butter in it, but the egg is not separated. My sister said that our mom said it was a Penn Dutch recipe, which makes sense because our great-grandmother and grandmother were born in rural PA. On a similar note, I'm going to be making a raisin pie that my grandmother used to make for me (back in the sixties) which I still have the recipe for in my great-grandmother's handwriting. 🙂 I'm looking forward to that! Love your show, Glenn, and especially when you dig into the history of the recipes on your Sunday videos!

@margaretbedwell3211 Жыл бұрын

Amelia, My grandmother also made raisin pie (often) when I was growing up. I did not like because she made it with raisins that had seeds in it. And we did have seedless raisins back in those days. Why she made it with those raisin I will never know. LOL.

@jcboom6894 Жыл бұрын

Raining pie was my Dad's favorite pie

@sadiedesimone7460 Жыл бұрын

I am 83. My mom made vinegar pie when I was a child. I loved it! One day I came into the kitchen and exclaimed, “Oh boy! I smell vinegar pie!” My mom laughed because my face was just above her pot of boiling vinegar-water and sugar looking for that delicious pie.

@argie498189 Жыл бұрын

My mom made vinegar pie in autumn. She rolled out several thin layers of crust. She put in some filling into the bottom crust, then a layer of crust, more filling, more crust, not sure how many layers, but then the top crust, and she took an ice pick and poked holes all over the top, clear through to the bottom. She brushed the top with water and sprinkled sugar lightly all over the top. The layers of crust puffed up, and the pie came out higher than the plate it was in. So fragrant, so delicious.

@EastSider48215 Жыл бұрын

Vinegar Pie is mentioned in two of Laura Ingalls Wilder’s Little House books: Farmer Boy and Little Town on the Prairie. So they were common in the American East and Midwest in the 1870’s.

@Vickiib Жыл бұрын

I've made a vinegar pie for decades! I grew up eating it and I have a copy of my great grandmother's recipe for it. She died in 1897!

@janborkowski6659 3 ай бұрын

Please tell us your grandmother’s recipe. How did it differ from this one?

@joanng8601 Жыл бұрын

The 70 teacups made me laugh, that anyone would think they are same size- love your channel, thank you

@KnitterWho Жыл бұрын

my first thought was logging. I remember visiting Hartwick Pines State Park in Michigan and there was a recipe for Vinegar Pie in one of the displays.

@itzel1735 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Reminds me of the seven sweets and seven sours from the Pennsylvania Dutch tradition. I would have cooled the filling before putting it in the crust, but your experiment seems to have worked.

@eivujeienin Жыл бұрын

The first place I heard about vinegar pie was in _Come an' Get It_ by Ramon Adams. It's a history of the chuck wagon and cattle roundup trail cooks. Sadly the book doesn't give very clear recipes, but it calls for sugar in this pie.

@lenalyles2712 Жыл бұрын

This was one of my Grandfather's favorite pies. Sweets we're a treat when we was little and this pie was easy and enjoyed at our table.

@petervanderwaart1138 Жыл бұрын

If you don't want to spray the molasses measuring cup, you could put a little of the hot liquid from the pan, and swirl it around.

@RSidneyB Жыл бұрын

Yup, thought the same thing. I often do that; e.g., getting the last bit of tomato paste out of a can .

@terebrown2892 Жыл бұрын

Don't know if you (rsidneyb) meant put the hot liquid in before measuring molasses to "preheat" it to make it slide out or after to rinse it out and get the last of it but I do both. I often fill the glass with hot water before anything hard to get out, (honey, peanut butter, shortening, etc) but using hot liquid from the recipe would make even more sense, thanks for that idea. And, of course, being Grammy Sarrett's favorite granddaughter, we don't waste anything, so we always rinse the jars and cans out, preferably with part of the recipe. I even throw browned ground beef or mushrooms in the spaghetti sauce jar and shake it around to clean it out without watering down the sauce.

@jrkorman Жыл бұрын

I was sitting there talking to my screen "Glen, you've got a pan of hot water!!!"

@t_y8274 Жыл бұрын

Or if measuring by weight, you can use the negative on the scale (by measuring the molasses jar)

@jamesmcinnis208 Жыл бұрын

"No one really knows what a teacup is."

@Iceland874 Жыл бұрын

My grandma made it. My brothers thought it sounded horrible but I liked everything Grandma made. The only time I’ve ever baked in my 66 years other than cookies when my 3 sons were little, was rhubarb pie in Home Economics in 8th grade. It was the grossest thing I could have ever been forced to make. Enjoyed the video.

@andielangemeyer Жыл бұрын

I love how thorough you are Glen! You must love research. I probably wouldn't be watching cooking videos without your awesome history lessons and commentary 😊

@321southtube Жыл бұрын

My first impression?...it was exactly what you're impression was after the first bite. The lemon does sound like an interesting fix. When you announced on the "validity" of information on the internet, I could hear the collective sound of jaws dropping from everyone under 30. I might just try this. Thanks so much. I truly appreciate the work behind the scenes as much as the final product. Always intriguing, interesting, and entertaining. Thanks so much

@JoeAuerbach Жыл бұрын

The first thing that pops into my head when you say vinegar pie is a sweet tart sort of sugar based evaporation pie common enough here in Ohio. Checking the recipe .... yeah, that's it. It's a good one.

@sshirleyks 8 ай бұрын

I love Julie’s face when she heard vinegar pie. 🤣

@intuitivemedium3814 Жыл бұрын

Im so overjoyed I found Glenn and Friends again! I left FB behind over a year ago and missed this show! Hey Jules!!👋

@candygirl7586 Жыл бұрын

I have been making Vinegar Pie for my children, who are now adults, and having it myself since I was a very young child in the southern US. The ingredients my family used were only eggs, butter, sugar/molasses, 1T vinegar, and vanilla... bottom crust only. A Chess Pie included flour...

@TheIronDuke9 Жыл бұрын

Something about your reaction of "weird, oh so weird" at the first taste really had me laughing, especially as I have no idea how this would taste. It's about what I imagine I would say were I to try it

@glendaweiss5500 Жыл бұрын

You sent my Mom and I on a hunt for her Grandmother’s recipe. Very similar except she used white sugar and added a teaspoon of cinnamon.

@Klwjjj 4 ай бұрын

My grandma’s recipe includes 3/4 tablespoon of cinnamon and 1/4 nutmeg. Otherwise exactly the same.

@Jaeler9 Жыл бұрын

Can I suggest doing a series of “mock” pies? Cause I stumbled across a mock apple pie (quite a few family members are allergic to apple and I wanted to share the deliciousness that is apple pie without making them sick) that is made from zucchini and I have no clue when it is from. It was in a home canning chat group when I found it. But it is exceeding delicious and if I don’t study the “fruit” inside I can’t tell the difference in taste.

@terebrown2892 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard of the mock apple pie made using Ritz crackers? You won't believe it till you've tried it! And, yes Glen, a series of mock pies, or anything else, would be greatly appreciated. ps, our local American Legion Auxillary cookbook had a recipe for "mock pineapple" that started with zucchini

@joantrotter3005 Жыл бұрын

I think originally zucchini pie is an old Italian tradition?

@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын

I would recommend using a good apple pie recipe and substitute the apples for pears. This keeps it fruit and pears have similar flavour to apples!

@LilyoftheValeyrising Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard of a mock apple pie made from whole ritz crackers. I heard about it in early ‘90’s.

@crackersmom2679 Жыл бұрын

I've had them made out of Ritz crackers, but not zucchini. Sounds good.

@justmefolks1863 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I tried one of those older recipes about 25 years ago. It was a mock apple pie made mostly with saltines. It was hilarious because my kids at the time 2 teens and 2 preteens, all tasted it with eyes closed and thought it really was apple pie. I only made it once because the pan was a nightmare to clean....LOL. I really love that you showed all the different time periods also.

@user-wn2fn2zj8w Жыл бұрын

This pie is a tradition in my family (I am from Quebec) and we make it using white vinegar, brown sugar, water, a bit of flour and butter. Maybe it is an acquired taste, but we all love it.

@derekh989 Жыл бұрын

I'd be interested in an episode explaining how you research old recipes across different newspapers and time periods. Are there searchable databases online? How do you look through your old cookbooks for a specific recipe if you're not sure it will be in any of them?

@SeventhSwell Жыл бұрын

Oh, that would be neat. I do enjoy a good behind the scenes video, like the tour of the kitchen set one. Maybe I've missed it, this channel has been around a long time before I found it during Covid, but if there isn't a video just showcasing the cookbook collection I'd love to see that too.

@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын

There are searchable newspaper databases online. I think some require paid. subscriptions.

@derekh989 Жыл бұрын

@Virginia F. Yes. But that doesn't help me understand the process of using them to track down recipes from different regions through different centuries and decades.

@johnhpalmer6098 Жыл бұрын

I bet Glen spends lots of time looking in the stacks at the public library looking at actual books and of course, many stacks will contain many old newspapers, bound and can find the recipes that way, as well as online and making copies of certain parts of pages as needed.

@Markephillips77 Жыл бұрын

As a resident of St. Cloud, MN I get giddy every time our city is mentioned on your channel! Thanks for doing all of this footwork to mix two of my passions: cooking and history! Super cool stuff!

@KyzylReap Жыл бұрын

Hello from down river in Winona!

@cindywalker1252 Жыл бұрын

I live in St Cloud too!!

@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын

I'll bet homemade cider vinegar was used in that time period. Commercial vinegar was around then, but maybe not everywhere.

@alysoffoxdale Жыл бұрын

I'm amused that the molasses flavor is pulling you away from the concept of apple pie, because our family apple pie recipe includes a big dollop of molasses as the "secret ingredient"!

@LadyElaineLovegood Жыл бұрын

I grew up in York which is just down the road from Lancaster. Sweet & sour is a popular flavor combination around there so maybe that's the reason for this pie, but when the ingredients also give cider as an option it could be just be a desert option for when fresh fruit isn't available.

@helenedesmarais8697 Жыл бұрын

I could guess that it started early in Britan with the sugar trade , a thickener and a bit of acid to balance. It propagated to the colonized Americas and got regionnalized. Here, in Québec ( previously Nouvelle-France way back), it got personnalized into " Tarte à la Farlouche" with the same type base with optionnal addition of raisins ( or not ).

@YeshuaKingMessiah Жыл бұрын

Yes! I’ve heard of it with raisins too! I knew it was missing SUMthing

@throttle4593 Жыл бұрын

My grandmother, who was born in 1903 used to make that pie, and taught my mom. I remember it was one of my favorites when I was a little girl.

@TheDriftwoodlover 25 күн бұрын

Having had an elderly friend (would be 94 if still alive in 2024) who grew up on a farm in the US before they received government subsidies, I learned how lean the end of winter/early spring months were for them. Most of what they ate was what they grew and preserved (and their family wasn’t particularly large). By spring, all or most of the apples would have been consumed so this recipe would have been a way to stretch what was available to make a dessert. People forget how much of the world was agrarian then and how people were creative with what they had to feed families and still provide some variety and some treats. We, in this time, do not understand fully what it was like. She described week after week of her mother canning vegetables and fruit to prep for winter and preserve every bit of what their farm yielded.

@murlthomas2243 Жыл бұрын

It looks good, but I like molasses a lot. Grandma made molasses bread that I wish I had the recipe for, and it started my fascination for using molasses in other things. I will have to try this. Thank you Glen!

@wmschooley1234 Жыл бұрын

For what it’s worth, several years ago on the Civil War Talk forum Receipts of the Blue & Gray Sweet Baked Goods there was a discussion thread on Vinegar Pie. Respectfully, W.S.

@Dios67 3 ай бұрын

"the Letter of a Dying Wife" in the newspaper in the end is some metrical structure you wouldn't find so much these days.

@julejustjule Жыл бұрын

Julie's face when Glen said vinegar pie 😂 exactly mirrored my face.

@jjudy5869 Жыл бұрын

Mine, too!

@Allurade Жыл бұрын

Right? You could just hear the enthusiasm melt away when she found out what kind of pie it was

@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын

assumption is the instinct of the willfully ignorant

@gmart225 Жыл бұрын

Love your show Glen!

@kbjerke Жыл бұрын

Very interesting bit of culinary history, Glen! Thanks!

@juancamilopen Жыл бұрын

And this is why I love this channel!!!

@ThankfulQue Жыл бұрын

I was going to write to you and see if you would make one of these! My mom made them and they are delicious! We were told they were “mock apple.” It was like a cobbler when she made them. The vinegar was really mellow. Thanks!

@heidiedelman6840 Жыл бұрын

I have never heard of vinegar pie before. Thanks for the great content here

@eabt Жыл бұрын

I associate vinegar pie with rural late winter cooking. Like sugar pie and butter tarts, it's a way of making a high-calorie food (like a fruit pie) when all the summer fruit has been used up. I didn't even know that it was associated with the Great Depression!

@rebeccaturner5503 Жыл бұрын

I always thought it was using vinegar instead of lemon juice because it was an acid and you would have it ready to hand. If you had different vinegars I am thinking you would get some real interesting differences in flavor. .

@stevewhitcher6719 Жыл бұрын

When Julie started eating it she had a sort of pained look, and then she kept going back to eat more so she must have liked it!

@julieschneider5973 Жыл бұрын

The rest of this newspaper page is certainly making for interesting reading! I’d love to see the whole page so I could get the entirety of the stories!

@freakzillaformozilla Жыл бұрын

Love the channel!

@annehall2591 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that you guys had such different reactions. Don't know if I would make this pie, but it was definitely interesting to watch!

@MrBradmyre Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching for years and never comment. I feel this is your best episode ever. A perfect video that sums up exactly what I enjoy about your channel.

@theresafinn4257 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting history.

@darnstewart Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see you do a Treacle Tart on the Old Cookbook Show someday.

@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын

I was about to post, that this had some resemblance to that!

@aliceewing9417 Жыл бұрын

First thing that comes to mind is a book I read last week that was based in the 1800s where a man told his wife that he would leave her if she ever made him vinegar pie haha. After finishing this video, I was surprised by the recipe. In the novel I referenced above, the characters used the term vinegar pie to refer to a fruit pie that used vinegar instead of lemon juice. I wonder where the author got that from.

@bkd69ster Жыл бұрын

I love learning when things just aren't so. But as others have noted, what you got there is a shoo fly pie. With vinegar. It'd be interesting to see where the shoo fly and the Lancaster vinegar pie parted ways or merged on the recipe tree.

@MrBeav1018 Жыл бұрын

i made a vinegar pie a long time ago. and it was delicious.

@Waldenpunk Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite pies!

@Lalscell90 Жыл бұрын

No idea what vinegar pie is. I'm glad now I know thanks to you!

@jemtebelle Жыл бұрын

If that was made as a thin layer on a baking sheet, it would probably look delicious. Like those saltines covered in caramel.

@sherrienale9974 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy you're show...Unfortunately, that pie I will pass on...Have a great week friend..

@ApeSkit01 Жыл бұрын

Julie had the same reaction when Glen said Vinegar Pie as I did when reading it the video title. I'm glad it turned out better than it sounds.

@matejcigale8840 Жыл бұрын

I just love the face Juesl makes when Glen declares it's vinegar pie.

@DeliaLee8 Жыл бұрын

Really interesting!

@divagonzo Жыл бұрын

Childhood for me was infrequently punctuated by vinegar pie, although my mother made it as vinegar roll, in a rectangular metal pan, not a circular pie shape. Both sweet and tangy, I enjoyed it, and I've missed it for the last 60 years.

@maryrowe1504 Жыл бұрын

My grandpa told me his father’s favorite desserts were vinegar and chocolate pie. He was born in 1920 so this would have been during the depression. For years I thought he was BSing me and then I found the recipe

@darrellbedford4857 Жыл бұрын

This is the only cooking show I subscribe too. I may watch other show on the occasion if the show something interesting but Glenn And Friends is my go to show that I look forward to every episode. I am with DerekOnPurpose who asked about seeing a show on how you do the research on the recipes. Can we have one Glenn?

@VHangout Жыл бұрын

I miss my Mom...first thing I thought was because she made vinegar pie for me. It was my favorite. The last one I had was about 5 years before she died. Fond memories.

@figmo397 Жыл бұрын

This pie reminds me of Shoo-Fly Pie, another Pennsylvania Dutch staple. Given that the cookbook is from Lancaster, PA, it makes sense, as that's "Amish Country."

@Locumparadisi Жыл бұрын

It's so cool to see my city pop up more and more in media. It's definitely brought all different kinds of newcomers to the area.

@gisman_2000 Жыл бұрын

I made Vinegar pie about 10 years ago just to see what it was like. It was good.

@flashqueena979 Жыл бұрын

I think of preparing for lean times and that did get me to the time of the Great Depression. Thank you for the story that goes along with this recipe!

@someguy4262 Жыл бұрын

What came to my mind when you named it was "never heard of it, sounds unpleasant". What I thought at the end of the video was "now I've heard of it, still sounds unpleasant".

@elmerkilred159 Жыл бұрын

I suppose one should probably ask the questions; What were the qualities, and varieties of the the ingredients that were used in this 1859 recipe? Was the molasses sulfured, unsulfured, dark, light, blackstrap, sorghum, sugar beet, cane, clover, maple syrup... ? Was the flour A/P, 00, whole wheat. barley or rye mixed... ? Vinegar- wine, apple cider, distilled, malt, cane...? Each combination of just these three ingredients could make a complete different flavor for each pie made. This episode just popped up in my feed today. I haven't seen an episode since the Cream Soda, and Cola experiments. I thought I was subscribed, but for some reason I was not. I am now. I have a lot of videos to watch now!

@critterjon4061 Жыл бұрын

Been hoping you would do a video on this recipe

@oldgloryhillfarmturtlewoma9132 Жыл бұрын

My Grandmother taught me how to make vinegar dumplings. Yum! One of my favorite desserts.

@Marielm1 Жыл бұрын

No thank you! That was the first thing! Still watched. You are a delight.

@bdavis7801 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! I haven't heard of it before. I've actually have a couple of different vinegars that I'm excited to try this with! 😆

@patrickwingard1927 Жыл бұрын

very interesting

@annehacker8840 Жыл бұрын

Love vinegar, so must try!

@robertoliver6980 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking some sort of Apple pie. Like late winter, the apples you stored in fall are questionable. The cider you pressed is turned. You make something with what is on hand.

@KKnits Жыл бұрын

I remember Laura Ingalls Wilder in the Little House books talking about how vinegar pie was one of the pies served to the threshers in the later 1800’s.

@raeannuria5691 Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@shirleyannconfer9651 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos. I’m watching from close to the geographical center of Pennsylvania, and I probably have relatives in the Lancaster area.

@jennacomberbach9982 Жыл бұрын

My husband loves vinegar, so he will love this.

@artistpw Жыл бұрын

I made vinegar dumplings once with my grandmother. She made short dough and we rolled with cinnamon and sugar. Cut pieces of maybe 1.5 inch rolls into about 1/4 inch pieces and cooked in a sugar and vinegar liquid. They were interesting.

@JacquieG Жыл бұрын

This looks similar to my husband's favorite pie. It's called chess pie and sadly we no longer have his preferred recipe as his mom passed before she shared it

@JCKay Жыл бұрын

Glen made "Chess Pie" before kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bN-ojapnmdnNlGw.html

@sennest Жыл бұрын

Glen has a chess pie on the channel in the archives 🎉

@jjudy5869 Жыл бұрын

Why do mothers/grandmothers do that? Our love for them is not dependent on what they cook for us.

@kathya739 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I thought the same as a resemblance to Chess pie.

@lorishirron7326 Жыл бұрын

Vinegar cobbler query: have you ever come across vinegar cobbler in your research? My mom always talks about her grandmother's vinegar cobbler. She said it had a top and bottom crust and pieces of pastry in the vinegar filling.. she said it was very tart but delicious.. Great grandma didn't have many recipes recorded she just made stuff. She was born in 1892. I've always wanted to try it but she never made it during the time I knew her.

@kathya739 Жыл бұрын

Joey harden above may share his recipe.

@Reuben- Жыл бұрын

Glen, maybe it’s in your back catalog, but after all the mock apple pies you’ve made what would your recipe for one be? Not a riff on an existing one, but something taken from your lessons learned? I always love these old cookbook episodes, and all your content too. Great stuff! Thank you!

@dazedconfused5019 Жыл бұрын

I read my great-grandmother love to make vinegar pies, I thought why and how could that be good. I will make this in the near future to taste for myself.

@joeyhardin1288 Жыл бұрын

My great uncle's favorite pie (Cobbler). I was the only one to make it for him. Thank you. God Bless and stay Safe.

@kathya739 Жыл бұрын

A commenter below, Lori Shirrin was hoping to fine this cobbler recipe....

@lindafletcher1628 Жыл бұрын

When you asked about vinegar pie and what was your first thought -- mine was raisin pie which is a pie I loved and havent had since childhood. Love your videos...a fan from down the road in Whitby