Original documentary by Ric Mixter (c) 1993. Hosted by Eric Jylha.
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@OBC-radio3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Saginaw, watching Eric Jyla and Ric on TV-5. Eric, your always interesting local history segments and specials sparked my now lifelong passion for history at a young age. You guys were truly professionals, thank you for these great documentaries and history segments. It’s sad what TV-5 puts out today...
@johnschueler93434 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather William H. Smith was captain of the Harvester and sailed through the storm. He made into port - the Soo, and wrote about the harrowing event.
@maxboonkittypoison4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@robertknowles26993 жыл бұрын
@@maxboonkittypoison From viewing NETFLIX Canadian show ‘Frontier’ much trade with Indians expertly loaded canoes and portaged them. People had to keep alive like today, yet beaver paid the cost.
@jamesmcnaughton50922 жыл бұрын
He probably made up that whole story and wasn't even there
@jburch85832 жыл бұрын
cool story im guessing if he didnt possess those masterclass ship piloting skills this comment and arguably more importantly you woulda never existed. lol seriously though those old time great lakes mariners had to be some tough ass studs on another level even in an age when most men were tough. on a sad note however those sailors wives probably had more courage in their little finger than every single anti 2a traitorous coward alive today.
@keithschiffy62 жыл бұрын
@@maxboonkittypoison vvvbnnnn9
@50craneman4 жыл бұрын
A great book on the 1913 storm is Ships Gone Missing by Robert J. Hemming. Also the disaster is described in several books by Dwight Boyer.
@jeffdurden3984 жыл бұрын
Nice piece, thanks for posting it. Lake chop is a different animal than ocean swell. Much shorter frequency and much more dangerous.
@josephmueller3354 жыл бұрын
Tethered to an anchor down the Plymouth rode the storm. abandoned near gull island seven souls remained aboard. 40 hours she was wrecked by gale and towering Waves. A once proud craft no longer sails but now remains a grave.
@fbimaxtowfor83002 жыл бұрын
What is that song called?
@JohnnyDanger369636 ай бұрын
@@fbimaxtowfor8300popeye the sailor man?
@rottenroads19825 ай бұрын
Despite living in California and never personally seeing the Great Lakes for myself, I still find Great Lake Ships and tales Fascinating. Plus, the Design of Great Lake Freighters are all fantastic. The Pilot house forward and engine workings aft.
@steveharmada3 жыл бұрын
What a great music
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu3 жыл бұрын
Notice no zebra mussels on the wrecks yet.
@maxpeck415410 ай бұрын
A friend of mine's grandfather was lost on the Henry B Smith. I've been interested in Great Lakes ships since I was about 12 years old (about 35 years). This was a great watch.
@johnwurfel28622 жыл бұрын
4:18 My grandpa, Bruce D. Henry, and a friend, discovered the sunken wreck of the Charles S. Price. I believe she capsized in the storm of 1913 and finally settled to the bottom after floating upside down.
@johnengland8619 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content
@davidwadsworth89824 жыл бұрын
Late Canadian Singer Stan Rogers has a great song about catching a storm while working on the Lakes.It is "Into a White Gale" 7/8 hundred foot ships can and do roll over.Been right to that point several times,my own oh shit moment's.We righted .
@leekingston87434 жыл бұрын
Stan's song is "White Squall".
@stantaylor33504 жыл бұрын
The family group White Water from Ammasa in Michigan's U.P. also did a song White Squall in about the late 80's or early 90's. Hope they didn't plagerize it. This song is about a young fresh sailor getting washed over board.
@kellybreen55262 жыл бұрын
Wexford was found a few years ago just outside of Goderich. Forget about Spanish gold, the ship was loaded with whiskey and champagne. The wreck being in deep enough water meant that there is no better way to preserve the cargo known to man. I am not sure what a bottle of Scotch from the wreck goes for, but I know it certainly is not cheap. Even the champagne survived and was served at one of the salvagers wedding.
@connern57919 ай бұрын
I think you're confusing the Wexford for the Regina. When she sank, the Wexford was carrying bushels of wheat. The Regina on the other hand was carrying all sorts of spirits, some of which were recovered and drunk at a wedding
@davemcmahon81402 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary 👏
@brianstabile1652 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of Dan hall in this
@felixcat93183 жыл бұрын
One can only imagine the feelings of the Crew aboard these vessels as they realised that they weren't going to make it to port! No possibility of rescue, nor survival in lifeboats, which most likely could mot be launched in thoes sea conditions! That the Captain's of ships actually departed ports past the storm warning flags was despicable behaviour towards the Crew, and in effect manslaughter!
@brianedwards71422 жыл бұрын
Watching this because it's "cheerful" compared to all the true crime and historical atrocity vids I've been watching lately. 😱
@mellissadalby14022 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Do you also read Wes Olszewski books? I am a fan of his as well.
@granskare4 жыл бұрын
I lived on Lake Superior and I have read Fred Stonehouse's stories.
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu3 жыл бұрын
Stonehouse is a putz in real life.
@TERoss-jk9ny3 жыл бұрын
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu: Which one was stonehouse, and why is he a putz? Also, how old is the really old man giving his experience?
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu3 жыл бұрын
@@TERoss-jk9ny An arrogant author. Old is relative.
@jeannebrauher35874 жыл бұрын
Always on my birthday. November 9th.
@Jackiedyk4 жыл бұрын
Mine's Nov. 10, the day the Edmund Fitzgerald went down...
@indy_go_blue60486 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would make a good documentary of the 1913 storm that inundated the Midwest in 1913. I've read a great book about it, but footage seems to be extremely rare. Why I ask is because my home town was involved and two young men died about 5 miles from where I sit.
@johnwunder35216 жыл бұрын
white hurricane by david g brown.
@jamesmeyers51515 жыл бұрын
That Is why underestimated the great lakes she get you
@tonyperone32425 жыл бұрын
The technology wasn't very good in those days.
@0404chrisjz4 жыл бұрын
How much footage you think was taken in 1913 lol
@atomicwedgie81764 жыл бұрын
@@0404chrisjz CNN said they covered the storm and have lots of footage.
@gregorylyon1004 Жыл бұрын
I still can't believe that the ship James Caruthers has never been found. She was brand new and by far the largest ship out their. Lost with all hands on lake Huron. Every ship found from that storm has been bottom side up
@johnnybirdwell6968 Жыл бұрын
I guess that I am one of only a few real sailors that have commented here. I sailed 20 years in the US Navy and another 18 years in the US Merchant Marine. While the only sailing I have done on the Lakes have been in good weather and in small craft, I have sailed all over the world and in some of the roughest waters out there. So, ships are designed to do a job. Deep Water Salt Ocean ships are designed to take rough weather and keep going. They must have engines large enough to push them through some really large waves. They are designed to take water on deck and get rid of it. Lake ships are designed to move ore and cost as little as possible. To run and to buy/build. So if you put the same size ships side by side, one deep sea and the other the lakes, you will find that the lakes ship is very much under powered for her size, they are also designed as shallow as possible and as narrow as possible. The hatch comonnings are the low and most of the cargo holds do not have water tight bulkheads between them. Mater of fact, todays lakers are built to unload quickly and don't have a lot of watertight builkheads in the first place. The biggest changes between 1913 and today is that there are better weather guessing, better lifesaving equipment and radio and radar. Also, new ships are better designed then before. However, most of the problems, other then weather guessing and radio and radar, have not changed any. Companies still want cargo moved as quickly and as cheaply as possible, and captains and crews that want to keep their jobs will do that! The main reasons that we have not had another year such as 1913 is that we have better weather guessing and coms and simply the fact that there are so few ships on the lakes now instead of how it was back in 1913. However, this was a very good video!
@haygurl3978 Жыл бұрын
I was in Merchant Marines in the 80s. We dang near sank up close to Newfoundland in late November 81. Some scary stuff being up around those ice bergs and the Captain would get frisky and chase me around the galley. What a time that was...
@dangerousbusinesses7888 ай бұрын
Who else is here on the 110th anniversary?
@SJKile2 жыл бұрын
Because Captain Seth Lockwood of then E. M. Ford turned back around after encountering 10 foot waves reminds me that the buck always stops with the Captain. So the ultimate responsibility for the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald in November of 1975 goes to Captain Ernest McSorley. He was a greedy individual that never thought of his crews safety, only money. He had multiple opportunities to pull in to a port, but did not. The bottom line was to important for him & his company. Which is why the Edmund Fitzgerald was routinely ran overloaded during her lifetime. Today that doesn’t happen. A ships crew is the most important asset & those assets need to be protected. Along with the safety of the crew comes periodic maintenance that must be done to keep the crew safe. It is that important.
@johnwurfel28622 жыл бұрын
100% Correct
@williamboorn2097 Жыл бұрын
bet they still cut corners mark my werds mom nature always finds a way she rule w/ an iron fist
@mattkaustickomments5 жыл бұрын
...wrote a song about it...Wanna hear it...here it go!...
@norml.hugh-mann Жыл бұрын
It's 2022 It's been a while since a regional shipping disaster, and IMO many have misplaced confidence in many recreational and commercial Vessels such that there will be a misdorcast event that causes too Many losses. So many willing to take chances to save time, to see someplace, or just to test their vessels nowdays. I could only imagine a major blow in a holiday weekends with poor forecasting could do in losses
@matthewtyppo57273 жыл бұрын
The hydrus and the Henry B Smith also were found
@rebeccapardue84384 жыл бұрын
I saw a short video somewhere that Henry B Smith was recently located. Perhaps someone might read this who knows for sure. RIP to all the ships and crewmen lost on the Great Lakes. ✌ Mike Pardue
@kc8bfr4 жыл бұрын
"The Henry B. Smith was found on May 24, 2013, by a small team of dedicated shipwreck hunters." this is an excerpt from the story at the following link, www.lakesuperior.com/the-lake/maritime/underwater-detectives-henry-b-smith-an-excerpt-from-the-last-laker/
@jenniferbeasley99669 ай бұрын
Wow very scary and sad cant imagine the horror of knowing the vessel they were on was sinking only they know❤❤❤
@heydude94644 жыл бұрын
Anyone know were i can find pics of the plymouth barge
@ZNZDerby4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dude Maybe memorial pages of the storm or just search it up.
@fbimaxtowfor83002 жыл бұрын
“Schooner Barge Plymouth” look that up
@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu3 жыл бұрын
Great music, any info on the songs so I can DL them?
@MechaWolf02 жыл бұрын
Most of the songs are from the album It's Quiet Where They Sleep by Dan Hall.
@fbimaxtowfor83002 жыл бұрын
@@MechaWolf0 Yes, The Wheelsman and Gale of 1913.
@bobpiff51614 ай бұрын
Music and songs are genuine cringeworthy! 100% as cheesy as music gets.
@intergalactic13295 жыл бұрын
Please can somebody tell me the name of the song about the barge plymouth thanks
@murderinc.hunting76865 жыл бұрын
I looked for it too and couldn't find it anywhere.
@murderinc.hunting76865 жыл бұрын
Here is the guy that sings it. Maybe you can reach him and ask him: www.lakefury.com/dan-bio
@intergalactic13295 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot mate. Spent at least two hours trying to find it but it wasnt even on dan halls website. But thanks.😀
@CKritNinja4 жыл бұрын
Dan never wrote a complete song about the Plymouth. I'll let him know he should 'finish' it! You can find his music at dan hall.com
@intergalactic13294 жыл бұрын
@@CKritNinja thanks guys
@donbrashsux5 жыл бұрын
Strange Hippy music..I like the Fitz song slide guitar
@Seeneeneeabubabu3 жыл бұрын
the songs are so funny lol
@robertknowles26993 жыл бұрын
In 1950s and early sixties 50 ft. Of Erie glaze of iron dust on sand along shoreline. Dad, a patent attorney shaped a 12 inch by 6 inch 2 x 4 piece of wood with a crude bow. I put a dowel and old rag and floated it. My 1st memory of boat with water under it. It sailed out of sight and I couldn’ swim at age 5, or water too cold to retrieve this shaped 6 in. By 12 in. By 1.4375 in. wood toy. Even a boat wide would turn turtle in the Lake when stormy. Smaller, wider boat, closer to shore might receive income tax relief or deduction for sailing close to shore with a longer mileage and safer outcome when Lake kicks up.
@JohnnyDanger369636 ай бұрын
They sank becsuse of bad constructioñ.
@kelliebrooks9094 Жыл бұрын
According ti weather experts this same storm came in 1998 with no commercial ships an lives lost...do to improvements all around radar satelite help from nasa...borrowed an share technology greatly improving safety
@johnl.wblairjr5387 Жыл бұрын
The Daniel j Morrell sank due to the brittle steel used in the hull and the only survivor was a watchman named Dennis hale
@scottrmclaughlin34953 жыл бұрын
RIP 🇺🇸
@bhoran11522 ай бұрын
👍
@brt-jn7kg2 жыл бұрын
For a 9th generation Texan the Great Lakes are a far off mystery. Like the fable of a dragon they are looked at as a man swallowing abyss that is best looked at on screen and paper. The fact that so many men and boys have died in the winter storms makes one ask the question when I continue to sell in the fall? Why take the risk in October? Then I think about the way things are done here and I understand that it's just a well life that just like Big sky heat and hard work are in our blood down here having to go to out on those lakes keep the wheels of this country turning and to make a living it's just in the blood up there I guess.
@johnpearson36162 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. As a native live Michigander, I can attest to this. That and our brutal winters up her.
@NickFortier2 жыл бұрын
Blood in, blood out
@fbimaxtowfor83002 жыл бұрын
The boats on the Lakes need to keep working as long as they can, every January 15, the boats go into winter lay-up. The steel mills, and other consumers need as much ore, coal, limestone etc. for storage in the winter mouths, as well raw materials during summer, fall, spring mouths. From global warming, I think every November the storms are getting worse, in December 2021, gale warnings were sent out to the boats. The steel mills and consumers need to have raw materials all year to keep running. As the video said, captains are staying away from storms. Again, this December a few boats loaded with cargo were waiting for the weather to change to get into harbors around Lake Michigan.
@williamboorn2097 Жыл бұрын
go ahead & buy an iron mine in the UP then get back to me about not shipping oct-june
@ronjohnson95074 жыл бұрын
They lost a lot of seamen in that storm
@jerodrobinson40402 жыл бұрын
I think something like this happening is a lot less likely, I assume Modern Ships are probably better Suited for rough Weather. And our Search and Rescue Crew's are way more capable.
@Kokopilau772 жыл бұрын
The seas will pull a ship to its watery grave no matter how young they are. Whether it is the Five Sisters or the seas
@williamboorn2097 Жыл бұрын
never underestimate mom nature einstein
@jerodrobinson4040 Жыл бұрын
@@Kokopilau77 Sure, but Ship's made in 2022 are much harder to Sink. And advancement's in Technology and Aircraft make People much Easier to find if and when a Ship does Sink.
@jerodrobinson4040 Жыл бұрын
@@williamboorn2097 Why are You insulting Me? Is there something about My Statement that Upset's You, or are You just an A**hole?
@jaredj26625 жыл бұрын
I think those ships either got caught in the valley formed between waves, or they were too narrow and capsized
@j.whiteoak64084 жыл бұрын
It's called a trough. Crests and troughs. Valleys are for landlubbers!
@j.whiteoak64084 жыл бұрын
@Billybob Joe PMSL!
@drforjc4 жыл бұрын
How about a Great Lakes shipwreck song that doesn't steal egregiously from Lightfoot?
@bigben028cards13 жыл бұрын
Does Lightfoot own that style and subject? Do you think he doesn't have his inspirations?
@drforjc3 жыл бұрын
It goes beyond style and subject. Real creative artists should be able to write a song that doesn't blatantly rip off the riffs and rhythms.
@bigben028cards13 жыл бұрын
@@drforjc haven't seen that anywhere here just style and subject inspiration
@gillgetter30043 жыл бұрын
Maybe the other way around
@JohnnyDanger369636 ай бұрын
How abought a Great lakes shipwreck song that Lightfoot doesnt steal from?
@catlover2368 Жыл бұрын
has the Plymouth ever been found? been told it is unknown where she sank!
@Chshirecat138 ай бұрын
Late reply but they have a rough idea based on where the tug pulling her left her however the wreck itself hasn't been found yet
@josephmueller3354 жыл бұрын
Has the carruthers been found
@CKritNinja4 жыл бұрын
Not yet. The three casualties of the storm that remain a mystery are the Carruthers, Plymouth and Leafield.
@williamrogers79742 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to me too. But its probably where Huron meets Georgean bay and deep
@williamboorn2097 Жыл бұрын
never name a great lakes frieghter with a title that rhymes w/ women body parts
@richardlees75204 жыл бұрын
Great story but not to sure about the background music kinda think it's in bad taste
@dondajulah41683 жыл бұрын
upside down Vagina?
@HarborLockRoad2 жыл бұрын
Agreed...the music is awful...sounds like weird canadian tv stuff....in the states, only pbs would have that kind of music accompanying a documentary
@markmiller22633 жыл бұрын
Just a little too much drama.
@barneybarnicle2399 Жыл бұрын
Ok, Gorden Lightfoot want-to-be.
@bobpiff51614 ай бұрын
The cheesiest music I’ve ever heard. I’ve got a greatest hits album by this guy….. there’s nothing on it!!!
@kelliebrooks9094 Жыл бұрын
I dont know how much most know but the lakes have ruf weather every nov dec they freeze an shut down for the most part....pretty hardy group to sail these bodys of water...with its reputation..that they just toss off in a corner an go do their jobs....
@maxboonkittypoison4 жыл бұрын
Oh god that music is awful. But its a sad story. Many men did not came home that day.
@olentangyriver11912 жыл бұрын
Also the year of the 1913 flood in Ohio..
@kelliebrooks9094 Жыл бұрын
6000 ships have gone down.....u still want the job yep...
@bobpiff51614 ай бұрын
Personal opinion here… The cheesiest music I’ve ever heard. I’ve got a greatest hits album by this guy….. there’s nothing on it!!! Another starving artist.
@MikeHunt-fo3ow5 ай бұрын
wasnt that bad on land...boys shoulda been on land chasing beaver
@MrSvenovitch7 жыл бұрын
My goodness that hippie music...the seventies were OVER in 1993
@danstomber16646 жыл бұрын
NO SHIT
@Tina060196 жыл бұрын
Sven Nice music.
@maheinicke6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Monty Python. He turned and ran....
@retiredfarmer61035 жыл бұрын
it"s not "hippie" music , this is folk music telling a story .
@tepinj5 жыл бұрын
I would actually like to get ahold of the music.
@jerodrobinson40402 жыл бұрын
Regina lol
@kelliebrooks9094 Жыл бұрын
Thanks the music was really corny i m not into folk music kinda gay...didnt have a good melody...lowered music would have been better nirmally i enjiy what ever music someone takes the time to add...it was weak the music...very well done factual.. .enjoyed the video still
@bobpiff51614 ай бұрын
Cringeworthy music
@HarborLockRoad2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary- horrible, horrible music!
@NortsGhoul3 жыл бұрын
Pretty bad music
@johnpearson36162 жыл бұрын
Take it your not from Michigan are you?
@NortsGhoul2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpearson3616 no I am nit
@TheMisterMarilyn4 жыл бұрын
Terrible documentary, and the music makes me want to puke. With such a vast wealth of information about storms, ships and people THIS is what they come up with...shocking in its banal boring content. Do NOT pass Go and do NOT collect $200!!
@I.have.an.std.4 жыл бұрын
MARILYN well don’t watch it then😂🤪
@Ponchoman074 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say "terrible", but yeah, not top quality. Highly interesting content, but then you throw in some sappy music and an old codger survivor who cannot be understood, and I’m ready to tear my hair out.
@TheMisterMarilyn4 жыл бұрын
Devon Fishing And YOU can’t bear someone who won’t put up with any old crap that you come out with, hence the original reply to your sonically challenged countenance has been deleted 3 times. People who live in glass houses really should be very careful who they sling rocks at!! Get the glazers in and cut the crap.
@joncrane76613 жыл бұрын
It takes intelligence to have curiosity about something. Slick productions cater to small minds and attention dpans
@HIOAZA15233 жыл бұрын
Well someone woke up on the wrong side of the internet’s