There is a manga/anime that is similarly base on that but its a japanese destroyer, name of anime/manga is called "zipang" its about a japanese kongo class destroyer was sent back in the battle of midway and their having a fight for their lifetime, the anime plot is similar to the final countdown so they got the idea on that movie

Not true. Again they took The Philly Experiment and thats how they got this movie.

Back to the Future, thr trilogy is the greatest time travel film/franchise. Saying that I love this film.

@@alphahead2741 What is the title of it? Is it English dubbed?

@@paulrobison1182 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipang_(manga)

True, but since you know every detail of the historical figures, all parties involved, every place and every process and everything planned, any side that fights you is going to be hard pressed to not be on the run for the next ten years at a minimum

thats the theory. not a certainty. another theory is that if you go back in time and change things, then go back into the future again, nothing will be different .... you leaving the past will cause it all to snap back into place like a rubber band, since you cant change what has already happened.

But with the right context of the future. instead of screwing up future events it can change them for the better.

​@videogames4122 No. The future us preordained. Chuck in unaccepted technology would impact Okhans Razer

A great man.

He did a great job playing a Medal of Honor winner on NCIS too.

Thank you. Didn't know.

" Corporal ernie yost ", ncis episode call of silence.

Sounds like something I would say.

@@davidpeterson8464 in a movie. Some RM3 saying that on an open radio circuit would find his Chief deciding whether to team or bore the guy's new asshole.

HOW DARE YOU TALK TO ME THAT WAY! Captain, tell them who you are. Speak to them!

@@jermainesimmons2944 Senator Chapman begged Captan Yelland.

and Martin Sheen in both movie, just need 7 years to aged from young man to pop

No. The ship as is would go back.

I just watched it

This movie deserves a proper remake.

@@christbenitez8797 Shame om you sir dont mess with a classic

Yes I’m long over due to watch it

Ed Davis: It is a great movie, even without popcorn and soda. I always compared it to a episode of THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

Saw it at the drive in! My dad was in the Navy and was excited

I first saw it on TV back in 1984, four years after the movie was released.

drive in

I can smell the butter in the darkness, shoveling that over salty popcorn into my mouth, washing it down with an Coke, and watching the events unfold, riveted. I’m there, now, in the past, in the darkened theater, enjoying ever second, entertained.

too bad the writing was crap

@@TheShootist hold on everybody, we have a professional screenwriter here.

I like it because the cast had so much fun making it.

The planes coming back automatically toward the end is impressive.

@Joseph Lomeo Infantry. He was in Omaha beach and the battle of the bulge

rip

Survivor of the Malmedy Massacre.

I saw a WW2 documentary many years ago where Durning spoke about his experience at Carentan in Normandy. Charles was infantry.

He was a truly avenger.....

Great comment!

What series of books were great especially the last one. Let's put this way, Japan was not first country to get hit by atomic bomb in these novels.

Yeah. The USS Hillary Clinton. Barf.

NO, i am the future! hello from 2019, 7 years later, my friend!

@@TheNicaragua1979 you're wrong because I am the future.8 month

@@pplett8238 pfffttt...all you geezers are wrong...I am from the future.

@@TheNicaragua1979 2019? That's so last year.

1979~2020 Kobe Bryant

He was questioning everything before the Helo has gotten back to the ship.

I love how During plays it. He knows something very weird is going on. And you can see it from his perspective.

it's such a cool moment

yes

Max Frankow WORLD DOMINATION

Max Frankow one carrier against the Japanese fleet???? Man I would have loved to see that ...i would have loved to be part of that and see the Japanese turn back around as fast as they could ....

They have a limited supply of jet fuel and modern munitions. The nuclear fuel will last longer (probably enough to complete the war), though if it's near the end of its useful life, uranium-235 in 1941 is virtually unobtainable. They could probably wipe out the Japanese Navy in the local area, but once their munitions run out, they'll be down to providing reconnaissance services. (They don't likely carry schematics for building more Sidewinder missiles, not to mention the need for various parts like ICs that haven't been invented yet; I have no idea if jet fuel of the kind they use was manufactured in the 1940s, but I suppose chemists could sample what they have.) Of course, knowing history is pretty useful for reconnaissance as well. All in all, it would probably shorten the war in the Pacific by a year or two, but make very little difference in Europe, except by allowing redirection of American forces from Pacific to Europe. But if Japan was rolled back to home by 1944, we wouldn't have nuclear bombs ready to force a conclusion (assuming none on board Nimitz); an invasion of the Home Islands might have been a worse result than what actually happened.

Even without modern weapons, there's one capability that would give the Nimitz's planes a huge advantage: the ability to fight at night. I'd imagine that WW2 era munitions factories could build bombs that could be dropped old school from the modern planes' hard points. And can you just imagine dive bombing at night in something like an Intruder, or possibly even level bombing, depending on how capable the tech on those planes was using old school dumb bombs...

well... splash the zeros :P

F14s were the latest fleet defense fighters when this came out. The Hornet was still an aviation architect's wet dream.

The air to surface missies like the harpoon could do the job and the Japanese would never know what hit them.

@@doughesson At this time the attack aircraft on the Nimitz would have A7 and A6 . High subsonic aircraft who cold carry a lot of ordinance. They would have be more than capable of sinking most of the Japanese attack force.

@@stephengross4704 Hence the dilemma the officers were facing:if we take our knowledge of history as it's been written & change it, what happens next?

@@doughesson Hornet enterd service only around 3 years after this movie, it already done test flight in 1978.

simul8guy What do you expect from a Captain Kirk?

His character was probably ready to retire.

To perform the "Kobiyashi Maru"!

@DOUG HEINS So he would've been ADMIRAL Kirk, then? Time to go forward to 1986 and save a couple of whales while he's at it!

@@davidharrison7014 Well he heard enough of his defending of Lies.

I miss the War Department =p

He doesnt seemed fazed by the new uniforms or modern radios...

Emilio looks even more like their dad.

Kimberlee Ponson Do whatever.

John F. Kennedy Are you talking about The Final Countdown or the Philadelphia Experiment? Cause The Philadelphia Experiment is the story of a ship time traveling and Sailors being fused to the hull and bulkheads of the ship.

Chris Bibber Have to refer you reread my post again

John F. Kennedy I know you are talking about the books. I read the book for the movie, and I dont remember any Sailors stuck in the hull. I do remember the Philadelphia Experiment book saying that though.

Chris Bibber Dude? Reread the post. Did you take an English class in school?

Durning brings a seriousness to the film. He elevates the script by treating it for real.

Answer Senator Chapman's question again, or he's gonna get through with Captain Yelland?!

And the music!

> That's not how I'd rewrite the plot. The Nimitz would head for Pearl Harbor. At the entrance to Pearl Harbor, Nimitz would encounter USS Ward, patrolling and looking for submarines. Nimitz would blinker the Ward, asking permission to enter Pearl Harbor and asking for an immediate meeting with Admiral Husband Kimmel, CINCPAC. Ward would be advised that hostile Japanese submarines are in the area ---- "Look sharp!" To underline this request, Nimitz would send a flight of four jets at low altitude across Pearl Harbor. When permission is received the Nimitz would steam into Pearl Harbor and tie up. The Nimitz commanding officer would helicopter to the headquarters of CINCPAC and land in front of the building. The Nimitz Commander would advise Kimmel of the impending Japanese attack, and advise him that he is placing the Nimitz under his command. Army Commander General Walter Short would be advised that lining up his aircraft on the runways of Oahu is not a good idea. Kimmel places all Navy ships in Pearl Harbor on alert and scrambles the battleships to sea. "This is no drill!" Short and Kimmel put together a plan to defend Pearl Harbor from air attack. This involves all attack aircraft being airborne north of Oahu when the Japanese attack is expected. Aircraft of the Nimitz are held in reserve, as a backup. Once the Japanese air attack has been thwarted, the American battleships are vectored for attack on the Japanese fleet, with the Nimitz providing air cover and backup. Other American aircraft carriers are too far away to aid in providing air cover. (www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/carrier-locations.html) Rather than being sacked due to being ineffective in defending Pearl Harbor against attack, Short and Kimmel are both awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for creatively using the forces at their command to defend Pearl Harbor from attack and sinking the attacking Japanese carriers. Because of the splendid job performed by the American battleships in thwarting the attack by Japanese aircraft carriers, battleships remain the core of the Navy and lead the attacks that retaliate against Japan. Aircraft carriers mostly provide air cover against air attacks by Japanese carriers ---of course there aren't many of THEM left. On December 8th, the Nimitz mysteriously disappears from the Pearl Harbor attack timeline.

Can you provide links to this fanfiction?

Links?

jimwg1 link?

Late to reply, but that's absolutely right. ANYTHING you do, incl simply being there, alters the future. And more importantly, alters the time period they subsequently return to.

@@pheonix1023 here you go - www.changingthetimes.net/samples/asb/final_countdown1.htm

Senator Chapman's not gonna believe it who they are and came from future with time vortex out of cloudy twister.

Anti-imperial movement (means to stop the Japanese Navy's plane bofore attack on Pearl Harbor).

Excellent point.

Racist!!!!

@@aspenrebel Well yeah it kind of is. Chapman is a white man in the 1940s. There wasn't a Senior Black Officer in the U.S Navy until the 60s, so you would expect him to raise an eyebrow at that instead of a journalist being aboard the ship.

Is he saying they're from the future?

That is wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff... 😃

I though that too, but Google Search "Easter Eggs for Hitler" "Happy Easter Adolph". Maybe it changed for the better but not until after 1941, I didn't't research it. Thanks.

Yes, That would be quite a culture shock for the folks in 1941 to see a black Navy Commander.

Yeah,it was not that long ago

Ha , what you are not aware of is that the black man was a soverign citizen. He didn't recognise naval practices of the time because he wasn't sailing, he was voyaging.

They should have made the doctor a black man. The one that tries to give the senator an injection. That woulde have been an interesting scene.

😂 carriers dont go out of business after one or two alpha strikes.

@@jessicaregina1956 The Nimitz might. It's ammunition would require modern machinery to manufacture. The jet fuel has not been invented. The equipment to make the jet fuel hasn't been invented yet. I admit the Nimitz could sail the Pacific and sink almost every ship in the Japanese navy if her pilots are precise. But she would still require an ASW escort. Her ASW aircraft might fill in but that would burn more of their jet fuel.

Ammo wise, so we dont use any guided weapons. Mk82s, zuni, cannon ammo, i think murica can handle making them

🤣 as for making jet fuel, they already make avgas, and its not rocket science to make jet fuel.

That is a great flick, too.

A Task Force is part of a fleet......

I's not just firepower. Its planes could detect and precisely locate the Japanese task force far over the horizon, shoot down the Japanese planes before any of them were visible to each other, and launch antiship missiles again from over the horizon that would have a hit rate at least 10 times that of WW2 iron bombs. The Japanese fleet didn't even have radar. They would have no idea what was killing them.

@@brucetucker4847 that's what I include in the term of firepower :)

Good eye!

Also the main character in Superfly.

At what cost to England's endeavors against Germany?

Robert Byrd they could of radio contacted pearl harbour Show them the Japanese are going to Attack And then destroy the fleet Imagine how quick the war in the Pacific could be with the full us Pacific fleet still in tact plus the uss Nimitz America could of defeated japan so quickly they could of headed over to Europe

Are you certain of that scenario? Remember, The United States didn't declare war on Germany first, The Germans declared war against us.

Yes, I would change history. In a heartbeat.

@@CorsetGrace ah but what would change as a result of changing history? lets say you kill hitler in 1938 suddenly stalin can steam role europe, and the soviets are far more powerful because they didn't have millions of dead because of hitler. and nevermind the fact that the british and french can then focus japan (assuming that a civil war starts in germany)

@@8vantor8 I suppose you could do that. I was thinking more along the lines of going back to 1980 and investing $5000 in a little copy called Microsoft for 33% of the shares.

@@CorsetGrace that is also posible, but don't do to much, other wise you my disrupt the past 40 years

​@@8vantor8 Or the NSDAP could end up appointing another leader, who would be better than Hitler. More level headed but with the equally as ruthless mentality. Say a guy who wouldn't tolerate infighting in his military or party etc, telling them to work together and get the job done. Perhaps also having the right frame of mind to not attack the USSR and declare war on America in 1941.

Stable time loop

Captain Yelland confess Chapman's gonna believe who they are, (Argue). Chapman's not gonna believe them where they came from, it's complicated. He will. He won't. He will. He won't.

I'm glad they didn't.

Late reaction, but honestly, I would not know. My instinct might be to interfere, like Captain Yelland chose to do, to try and avert the tragedy, though reason would demand that I'd stay out of it and let history play out as it originally would. So let's assume that, in this situation, I'd choose to interfere and destroy the IJN fleet on it's way to Pearl. The attack was stopped, now, what would that mean? I assume that, if the plot remains largely the same as the movie, then the timestorm would catch up to Nimitz soon and send it back to it's own time. I'll assume that Nimitz's aircraft would have enough time to destroy the taskforce aswell as the airplanes and return to their own time aswell. First, looking purely at numbers here, the balance of power would shift dramatically in favor of the US. Most notably, the battleships Arizona, Oklahoma, West-Virginia, Tennessee, California, Nevada and Maryland would neither be sunk nor out of commission until atleast 1942 or longer ( Pennsylvania took only one bomb and was still fit for service). That along with the carriers that also survived, would put the US in a far better position to strike back. Meanwhile the Japanese would lose all six of their carriers, the Hiriyu, Soryu, Akagi, Kaga, Zuikaku and Shokaku, alongside heavy cruisers Tone and Chikuma aswell as light cruiser Abukuma, eleven destroyers and a few tankers and supplyships. They'd still have quite the amount of ships, including battleships and some carriers, but losing six of their large carriers would definetly give the US an advantage in the air, and the Japanese would have to stretch their remaining fleet and airplanes more thin if they still wished to fight on all the fronts they were present at. And now we get to the speculation. I assume that while Nimitz would have no problem sinking the IJN taskforce, they would not be able to do so fast enough to stop a message from being sent back to the Japanese, unless they could somehow jam all IJN communication. I am not sure if they could, but let's assume they could not. Both the United States aswell as the Soviet Union by this time had broken the so-called "Purple Code" , so they would soon also learn that something was amiss as the Japanese would no doubt be panicking about their taskforce being wiped out like that. Would the US enter WW2 though? Originally, the Japanese declaration of war arrived a day after the attack on Pearl Harbor, and Germany and Italy declared war on the US a few days after the attack, on December 11th, after which the US declared war on them in turn. The British in the meantime'd also declare war on the Japanese a day after, because simultaneous with the attack on Pearl, attacks on British territories were also underway. In this timeline however, I assume the Japanese would manage to stop their declaration of war on the US in time, which would probably also lead to Germany and Italy not declaring war on them. And given that there was a very strong isolationist movement in the US at the time, it would either lead to the US entering the war much later than December 1941, or not at all. This would leave the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union to deal with Germany and Italy alone, aswell as leave Asia to deal with the Japanese themselves. So from here on it would depend on if or when the US would still enter WW2.

randy moyan well it wouldn't be much of a difference when it comes to ships but today's Nimitz carry a lot of marines, APC, F-16s, and F-18s. If lucky also f/a-22s and F-35s.

You're right there wouldn't be much difference ships wise.

They wouldn't have F-16 Falcons or F-22 Raptors. Those are strictly Air Force...

@@ericvalencia3167 F-22's do not fly off carriers.

Ch'iidii that guy who made some of their training films...

Better left alone, they'd just f it up with a bunch of crappy actors and CGI bullshit.

@@sidefx996 Don't forget the SJWs would completely ruin it,........

12/9/1916 - 2/5/2020.

this was even before THAT movie.

This came out 5 yrs. before BTTF.

With basic knowledge of the war, those Annapolis trained officers probably could rough out all ship movements during the war

ooh that's a strong point. even after they run out of weapons the nimitz would still have a war winning weapon - it's radar and the e-2 hawkeyes. and they could probably keep the hawkeyes flying with the tech at the time since it's a prop plane.

sonic jet Along with the accompanying music, too!

CAPTAIN YELLAND: We're from the future in the year 1980, we came from the time hole out of cloudy storm when nature phenomenon happens, almost like twister. SENATOR CHAPMAN: You got to be kidding me? You've got to stop this nonsense! You're not making any sense, that's ridiculous, there's no time hole out of storm! I want the real truth. CAPTAIN YELLAND: I already told you the real truth but's complicated, we're stuck in your past in this year 1941 and we gotta wait for a long while after in 24 hours remaining. SENATOR CHAPMAN: This is simply too much enough I have never heard of that! CAPTAIN YELLAND: Am I missing missing? Since we stopped those two Japanese planes attacked you and we just saved your life. But before you die, we won't see you in the future until 29 years after you die with your existence.

Even if it meant you might never exist?

Think of the white people that would have been saved in the unjted States and if there was no war with germany and no Soviet war with germany white lives saved on both sides beautiful white lives matter

@@jonjonas2528 Seriously? Wow. The Pearl harbor attack is what brought the US into the war. If that had not happened when it did, it's likely that the Nazis would have defeated Britain and that all of Europe would have fallen to them. If that had happened, a hell of a lot more "white people" would have died (and brown people, and yellow people, and black people - the key word here being "people"). Try thinking outside your prejudiced box once in awhile.

there were science fiction books where such scenarios were played out

Is there more than one kind?