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AND I THOUGHT IT WAS WALK LIKE AN EGYPTIAN ❣️🤭

Haha yeah, glad you dig the channel

Thank you for digging =)

Nances' previous experience at National Cash Register (NCS), GM, and Zenith Radio Corporation failed to adequately prepare him for any type of leadership role at Packard. The failure of Packard to perform its due diligence regarding Studebaker's finances, Packard's failure to fully develop a V8 engine until well after competitors had theirs, and his lack of planning for a contigence in the wake George Mason's death for any subsequent merger of the rest of the independent auto makers, demonstrate a profound lack of knowledge, foresight, and sophistication regarding the automotive industry.

@@ROXSTARCorvette4371 You are absolutely correct. It was a comedy of errors on all parts.

Also the ill fated move of trying to put assembly operations at the leased Briggs plant instead of updating the main Packard plant or even doing more at the new engine plant depending on having access to the Briggs plant was a mistake but might have been carried from before the time that Nance became "President" of Packard @@ROXSTARCorvette4371

@@ROXSTARCorvette4371 One has to wonder if Mason could have pulled it together. Both Studebaker and Packard had automatic transmissions, Studebaker had a V8 in production, and Packard's engineers, in addition to the V8, were working on the _Twin Traction_ differential and _Torsion Level Ride._ Yes, when Packard's accountants audited Studebaker's books after the purchase, they found that Studebaker's break-even point was about sixty per cent more units than Harold Vance's people had led them to believe. When George Mason died, the planned merger of AMC with Studebaker-Packard was already shaky and the intercorporate infighting pretty well scuttled all four brands. A a footnote, check out the story of Studebaker's project Z87 and just for shiggles, the Porsche Type 542.

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I read that during "the last days in the bunker", Packard engineers were finalizing plans to bore and stroke the V8 to 440 cubic inches and some were speculating that it would be feasible to build a V12 based on the Packard V8 architecture, that a 480 cubic inch twelve would be logical using the 320 Clipper dimensions. Never got off the back of the napkin, but what might have been....

Thank you so much for sharing all of the insight and information and taking the time to do so I greatly appreciate it !! =)

The front seat didn’t feel quality though like it almost felt like Naugahyde or a cheap lesser material

Yes things were always a bit stoical for the chauffeurs even in the most luxurious limos. Note the black rubber floor mat & the lack of an AM radio. At least he had a roof over head unlike on some of the dual cowl limos of the 20's. I'm surprised that he had a clock though, but I guess that was to keep him punctual.

I make a point to look for the cars that never got reviewed.. because I figure I can’t be the only one that likes these cars =) there is so much more to the car hobby besides Ford mustang Chevy Camaros and Corvettes

@@Jack_Russell_Brown Thanks! Yes the 1948 Patton Packard was shown dropping him off at his London residence in approximately 1943. Pure magic on the Army's part that they could get a '48 model about 4 years before it was built. 😁 Forgot all about those ZILs and ZISs from former Soviet Union!

@@What.its.like. That's true, rare models are lots more fun than all the standard stuff you see at weekend hobbyist shows. Many of us enjoy seeing a Jaguar Mark II, Avanti, MG Midget or International Scout now and then, so new episodes on your channel are something people look forward to.

There is a guy in Rockford Illinois who has a Packard Henney funeral coach that was used by a now defunct funeral home that is a registered vehicle for whenever a movie company needs a vehicle of that year and type.

@@glennso47 I hear that funeral home went out of business because their slogan was "We're The Last People To Let You Down"

Thank you so much for sharing that information as well as insight =)

KZfaq is an on going forever thing glad you dig this car remembering back is one of the most spacious limos in comparison to the Pierce arrow there’s way more space in the back of this car

Glad you dig =)

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@@What.its.like. it was in business from 1927 to 1954 so I was able to find from google.

It was in the video

@@What.its.like. Yes, I heard it from your video but I also saw it on Wikipedia.

I think so since they said it like 3 x’s 🤣🤣🤣🤣 flower cars, limo’s, and ambulances’s, were Henney’s thing.🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

That ride would be amazing.. Second to none in terms of comfortably plus it’s a 8 seater

It's a cool museum, been there. Very old timey in its way - lots of oil and gas greet you at the door, but the cars run. It's a living museum not static. Dedication of the people there (and the fact I felt they could use some support) equalled a deluxe t-shirt I really didn't need. There's another in Warren, but haven't been there.

I gotta go there and check it out =)

Thank you! I was aware of the National Air Force Museum but not of the Packard. I live in Pa so I am close by. I love Packards and would enjoy seeing the real thing not just pictures.

Yeah glad you dig this episode you got the song and band someone beat you to it

@@What.its.like. Ha! Story of my life!

We got to get more young people into this hobby

Agreed... if I make it this life 34 aero sports coupe is what I want or a Darrin his packard designs where absolutely gorgeous

Awesome how do you like yours

@@What.its.like. I haven’t driven it since my Son’s wedding 12 years ago. I have to prep it again, but she ran smooth always. My Dad drove it home from the Packard showroom on Carnegie Av. the day my Grandfather bought it. He was 22 years old then. The car sat from 1961 till 1994 when my Dad got her running again. I have to get it rollin again

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Doc browns Packard is the next body style after this

I know but I always wondered why they didn’t extend the contract I’m sure Rolls-Royce just like all of the other companies were itching for more money they could’ve worked a deal.. i’ve read Packard made the superior engine anyway

The Packard-built 'Merlin' engine was a Packard engine, as were the V-12s used in PT Boats and tanks. Cadillac also built engines for tanks and Chrysler built the whole tank.

I don't think that the Packard V-12 engines that were used in the PT boats were of the same design as the Packard-Merlin engines manufactured for aircraft use.

Would’ve been interesting if we’d gotten even a licensed version of the engine in some models.

Would’ve been interesting if we’d gotten even a licensed version of the engine in some models.

I make a point to look for the cars that never got reviewed

I’m going after the cars that never got the attention they deserved

There's a limo at the Packard museum in Dayton, Ohio.

I have one.

I forgot to mention that if you wanted to take the hood off you could by pushing both releases and moving the safety’s it would be a two maybe three person job that hood is heavy

@@What.its.like. thanks, I was wondering about that, & I figured that the hood was very heavy!!

But to be fair Pontiac also was another company that held on to the straight eight as well, of course they were protected by GM

I believe Pontiac was prevented or forbidden from selling its V8 design in its cars to the public for a couple years by GM top management-trying to protect Buick/Oldsmobile from having to compete against V8 Pontiacs. @@What.its.like.

Packard also wasted a ton of cash developing their 48 model. They would have done well doing facelifts on their 47 model another few years.

Yes they were

I thought the same thing too in the front seat material didn’t feel high quality not the type of quality that you generally get when you get into a Packard of the statue.. but that was the only negative about this car everything else was great =) It’s also a huge in both length width and height

@@What.its.like. you obviously did not drive yourself…. Some of those limos from the 20-30s didn’t even have a roof over the chauffeur!

@@What.its.like. I agree with you Jay. Its obvious the car has been well preserved, but if I was its owner, I would be a bit hesitant to take it to a car show until the correct upholstery was installed, but what a masterpiece of engineering. The car just exudes luxury at its finest!

@@flashesofblack4128 So much more class than the modern Mercedes / Maybach / Rolls-Royce etc.

@flashesofblack4128 I believe some car shows have entries for unrestored, but preserved, vehicles.

Frankie valli is a national treasure =)

Awesome thank you so much for that feedback definitely doing the Merlin engine eventually I didn't know about the diesel aircraft engine. Thank you so much for sharing that.

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They cheap out take the easy way out on everything now a days

Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of that insight =)

The Buick hearses and ambulances were built by the Flxible Company of Loudonville, Ohio. Through 1948 they had actually raised the entire hood, cowl and beltline to accommodate the extra height needed. From 1949, only the roof was raised.

Yeah for sure I could definitely see that too

It was like sitting on your living room loveseat in the back there’s enough space back there to put a fireplace where the partition is.. =)

Awesome information thank you so much for that =)

The space in the rear seat was massive, I have a friend who has a 56 de Soto and that almost has the same space in the back packard has way more head room..

Sweet =)

This was expensive but worth the expense it was opulent =)

Me too I love the fact that it’s a Packard Packard made some really cool cars especially in the 30s..

@@What.its.like. Yes they did. I have always Loved Packards.

I remember that story he had an older guy on the Tonight Show that was into early Packard and he said that he would buy a Packard passed the year I’m not entirely sure what year it was but it was outside the brass era he wouldn’t buy a newer Packard than the brass era.. thank you so much for sharing that story.. that’s a bucket list thing to one day meet leno =)

The Merlin was too large for automotive use and would have been to expensive to produce even if it would fit. It was1,649 cu in displacement and weighed 1,640 lb . and cost $ 2410.80 to produce in 1940.

It could’ve been a Power plant for someone looking for something different..

I wasn’t 100% sure of packard did that at this point in time

I like to Packard Caribbean though that was the best looking car they made since the war in my opinion.. I think the Packard Caribbean looks better than the Cadillac from the same year the Cadillac looks old by 1955

Just imagine if they did that would’ve been epic =)

Totally =)

If I ever come across a time machine first stop mid 30s packard dealerships as well as all the others.. I honestly don’t know what era I like more 30s fenders or 50s fins?

I honestly don’t work there they are just nice enough to let me feature their cars for reviews. I need to go to other Classic Car dealerships as well it’s just so much easier going to one location and doing 30 cars and having enough content for about a month.. lol Do you have a really nice Vista cruiser I am going to review the next time I go there if it’s still there I’m hoping to go in a couple weeks

@@What.its.like. LOL - I knew that, but you were talking about approaching the cars like you were selling them - So I told you about a couple kinds of cars that I would like to know more about but pitched in the terms of a possible customer. I could have responded totally blah and said I would like to see more about classic convertibles and station wagons, but what fun would that be?

Hahaha lol I feel you there is a 58 ranch wagon coming next week I try and do as many wagons as possible, because they are so cool but wagons are hard to come by. Maybe the ranch wagon will be Tuesdays episode =) super cool episode planned Monday

Very true but they could’ve made a few modifications to it and dumped it their own I mean other manufacturers have done for less and receive credit for everything cough cough (willys with the jeep)

I totally agree I would love to do a Honda/Toyota comparison but totally abuse and see which one last longer I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey van that I’ve been experimenting on for the last year I did an episode that was very controversial. Where I explained At that point in time it’s only if it was only about six months without changing the oil it has gone a year and roughly a year and almost half with the same oil filter, I can’t 100% say that it’s the same oil because it burns oil there’s been times where I check the oil in there isn’t any oil on the dipstick. Hasn’t blown up yet it’s starting to file the coil packs though it develops a really bad mess whenever it’s cold outside but if it’s not cold outside it runs perfectly fine. The other thing I have to tell you is I put 35,000 miles in that stretch of time I don’t think any other vehicle definitely not a Mercedes Mercedes-Benz wouldn’t do that BMW wouldn’t do that any American made car won’t do that I don’t know if a Toyota would.. i’m going to do a comparison episode in a couple weeks I have another Honda Odyssey van I kind of sort of one of the snow I miss my opportunity last week to do this the 2001 has a bad wheel bearing I gotta get it fixed before I can drive it on the road again. It’s a work van my wife wants me to get rid of it so bad but I won’t she’s like just sell it for 500 bucks and I was like it means more to me than that and being at work then I don’t have to worry if I spill anything it’s a work van. Lol

Th am you so much for that insight and Information =)

The 4 speed in the early 30's Packard looked like it came from a 2 ton truck. It would have been very sturdy but it had sliding gears rather than constant mesh so it would have been hard to shift. Picture driving a 1949 2 ton Ford with a 4 speed Warner. Chauffeurs would have been able to handle them though.

@@n.mcneil4066 Common misconception, but ultimately untrue. Despite the significant size and weight of any Packard compared to a more common vehicle, such as the Model A, driving them is quite easy, and not all that different from a modern car usually. Shifting the gears doesn't take great effort, even the one in my big and heavy sedan. The Packard transmission looks intimidating because it had to stand up to the power of their engines and move significantly heavier cars at double the speed of its more common contemporaries. For comparison, a Ford Model A sedan has a 40hp engine, and weighs roughly 2,300 lbs, capable of driving at 50mph, but ideally suited to cruising at 45mph. My Packard of the same year, with one of the more common sedan bodies, base engine, and midsized chassis, has a 100hp engine, weighs a hefty 5,500 lbs, and is capable of sustained cruising at 100mph with the "high speed" gearing. Roughly 2.5x the power and weight and twice the speed. This is why the Packard transmission had to be so robust. Add to that the extremely high quality and refinement of Packard engineering, and it resulted in a strong, but easy to manage transmission. Properly driven with the correct technique, it doesn't even clash or grind during any shift. Additionally, synchronized transmissions were already in use by 31 for Packard as well. Both synchro, and the traditional non synchro sliding gear was available in 4 speed. I haven't dug into mine to find out what particular one it has, but none of the 4 speed had a synchro 1st gear, and shifting it is easy and smooth. The misconception about practically all pre war era shifting comes from the need to rev match and double clutch, whereas a modern car one can just throw around without thought. Driving an old car is very much like driving a big rig, but only in a technical sense, not physical. These cars were considered the best on the planet, equal, if not superior to engineering, quality, and prestige of Rolls, Cadillac, Lincoln, and the rest. They were meant to be driven and enjoyed, and one can easily do so. Ad campaigns of the time even touted how easy it is for a woman to drive one, heh.

I was told packard owners didn’t care about fuel consumption I just add gas figures if your looking to buy these cars at least you know what to expect =)

Packard NEVER offered the GM Hydramatic in any of their cars.

It’s a 3 speed manual with overdrive

Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing all of that useful information as well as insight =)

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This was the first time I’ve been in a limo from this era, it was super duper cool =)

@@What.its.like. they are cool... Some of them are so big inside, you could camp in them!

There was enough space in this one day you could probably play a board game on the floor

It is walk like a man someone just beat you to it I forgot/could find the footage of me showing the cowl vent opener.. under the dash center was the ash tray I believe

@@What.its.like. I don't think it was an ashtray down that far by the floor. It was a fairly large light brown box like thing. You can see it when you open the passenger side front door.

Oh that was the heater it has 3 doors brown box I explained what it was in the shoebox Ford episode I should’ve explained what was in this episode as well

@@What.its.like. Ok... Thanks so much! I love your reviews on these cars.. ❤️

@@What.its.like. makes you wonder how warm it could have been all the way in the backseat with that partition window closed...🤔

Yeah that’s it someone got it before you though

Hahaha hope all is well I love packards going to make it a point to cover more this year

It’s all good they were really good at painting metal back then to resemble wood..

Yep I think for Packards I’m gonna try to find songs that revolve around mad because of the whole ask the man who ones one

British made Merlin parts wouldn't interchange between engines. Packard fixed that

Totally agree my favorite era of packard is 1934-1942 they didn’t make a bad body design during that time

I thought that too until I saw they did that Lincoln Cosmopolitan in the early 50s

I didn’t get a chance to I really wanted to do the Oldsmobile vista cruiser in the other building but I didn’t get a chance to do that on either.. i’ve been looking for an imperial to feature I haven’t featured in imperial yet =)

Packard had a automatic transmission as well as all power options I’m pretty sure Packard had a four-speed synchromesh transmission before Cadillac did

I love packards I’d take any 1930s packard I’ve any luxury equivalent on offer today

I was born in 51 and I am quite familiar with Packards. I even remember them when they were new. Mr. Hatton, who owned Hatton Packard in Baton Rouge went to the same church as my family.

Ford sort of did.. Lincoln v12 wasn’t drastically expensive Lincoln zephyr V 12 was equivalent to $34,000

Yep =)

That’s so weird I always thought it was jive.. Thank you so much for the correction I’m from Western Pennsylvania and I’m finding out that it’s a thing here to do things wrong all the time like they just say it wrong so it gets embedded into the brain wrong.. thank you for the correction

Might be tight behind the wheel tons of space in the rear

Agree =)

Will do =)

Yes somebody beat you to it

Yes i've learned that over the years, but would rather have overdrive than granny gear

@@What.its.like. My six-speed Crosstrek feels like first is a granny. I'm usually doing the 1-2 shift as soon as the car is moving. Of course, on my tandem bicycle the granny gear is a 24-tooth chainring on a 34-tooth freewheel cog for a 19 gear-inch granny, good for about 4 miles per hour. (top gear is 52-12 or 117 gear-inches, only useful when being chased downhill by a cheetah...)