1950's Allis Chalmers Film Gleaner All The Way

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5 жыл бұрын

1950's Allis Chalmers film "Gleaner All The Way" showing the A, C, B, and R combines. Also shows the Gleaner factory in Independence. Taken from the out of print "Machinery Of The Past" VHS.

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@mharrye Жыл бұрын

Great memories finding this video. I began working as an engineer for Gleaner upon graduating from college in 1967. Many of the inside plant views were memories of how it was when I started. One of my first jobs, orientation, was testing models about to be introduced (F, G & EIII replacing the A2, C2 & E), and found the Gleaners much easier to operate, and cleaner at the operator seat, then the competitors but any open platform is dirty. We introduced cabs with the G model, and it was still optional on the L introduced in '72 but was standard by '74. Earl Estell at the 15 minute mark was the first custom cutter I encountered when I began work. Chewed my but out unmercifully for not driving to his standard. The white Ford truck shown at 5:30 - I was driving that in 1967 when the engine blew. Memories.

@JandLVideos Жыл бұрын

Wow, great insight thanks for sharing. How long did you work there?

@mharrye Жыл бұрын

@@JandLVideos I worked from 1967 to 1989 and left when Paul Ratliff, hired by Deutz to figure things out, came to our plant and told us to get our resumés ready - the Germans didn't have a clue about American farmer's needs. They were only looking for a sucker to take the business off their hands and reduce their losses. Little did we know that Paul Ratliff would be that sucker, but being a very bright person, he turned it into AGCO and a thriving business. I began as an intern in the summer 1967 validating what were then to be the AIII, CIII, and EIII for 1968 production. When I returned full time in January 1968, they had been released as the EIII, F and G. A year later the EIII got a Chev engine and became the K (H and I didn't work as model designations and were skipped). In 1972 the L was introduced as a pilot model, 50 machines only, but Marketing!#$?! The L sold so well they wanted more and more and my job quickly switched to designing update kits. Original L's were to be retrofitted but I would be most confident in an L2 with 158 HP engine option.

@JandLVideos Жыл бұрын

@mharrye I would love to meet you sometime and talk gleaner with you, a couple years ago we made a quick stop at the old plant in independence.. have you looked at some of the gleaner films we have from the 80s? Maybe you're in one of them.

@mharrye Жыл бұрын

@@JandLVideos I've looked at several and have not found my picture. If I remember correctly, Gene Allen and Jerry Boone from another video are the only 2 I have recognized from Engineering. Some of my slides have made it into advertising because having grown up on a farm, I knew more what the customers were looking for in literature than people from a photo agency sent to spend a couple days with a prototype. My main projects were hillside combines, then headers, and left as chief engineer of all subsystems (grain & corn heads, engines, cabs, hydraulics, electronics).

@jeffsnider3588 3 жыл бұрын

These video's bring back the days of my youth. Wish I could go back to those days, talking about simple!

@ironwill8596 2 ай бұрын

Back in the early 2000s my father bought a Gleaner used for many years

@stephenparsons6011 4 жыл бұрын

I worked the wheat harvest in North Central Oklahoma from 1971 through 1981. At age 15, I was put on a '58 Gleaner A. The machine was one year older than I. With it's powerful Hercules industrial engine, we cut a lot of wheat.

@SilverGleaner 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the older Gleaners ran a Ford until Allis bought them and put a Buda in? Buda was bought by Allis in '54 or '55 I believe, about the same time they bought out Gleaner.

@glenirwin1110 Жыл бұрын

@@SilverGleaner Buda diesel was a later option, maybe after 58 or so. Ford gasoline until Allis bought them. They may have used an Allis gasoline when the A2 came out. I think a lot of them went out with the Hercules. You would have to check with a Gleaner expert.

@frankwurth5375 Жыл бұрын

After Allis purchased the Gleaner Baldwin Company, Ford cut off the supply of Ford industrial engines. Ford wanted to buy Gleaner for them selves, but Bill Roberts of Allis, Beat them to it. In retaliation Ford cut off the supply of motors, that is the reason Allis bought the Buda co. To keep the combine line going, Allis could buy the Hercules industrial engines till the Buda got online. Deere also used the same Hercules motor on their 55 combine. Even though those motors were reliable and easy on fuel, they were severly under powered. When I started farming, I bought an older model A gleaner with the Hercules motor. I also bought a Deere model 55 with the same motor. The Deere design required less power to work, so the Hercules did well, the Gleaner not so much. Once Allis repowered their line with the bigger Buda, Deere did the same with their machine to keep up. They designed a Deere built larger motor for their machine as well. Today it's difficult to find any of those machines with the Herc power, everyone was glad to be rid of them.

@ArmpitStudios 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a farmer, but Gleaners were always the coolest looking combines around.

@crslyrn 5 жыл бұрын

I always enjoy seeing the older equipment out in the fields. Good reminders of just how far the equipment has come over the years. Stay safe.

@nikerailfanningttm9046 3 жыл бұрын

Gleaner is my go-to brand for combines, nothing beats a Gleaner. Gleaner: "ALL THE WAY FOR USA"

@harlandschuster2703 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for uploading! I ran my dad's Gleaner E combine when I was in high school. It was a 10+ year old machine by that time, in the early 1980's. He had a two row corn head and a 10 foot platform. As I recall, it did a pretty good job of producing a good sample while keeping grain in the back end. Gleaner had a good design overall for the time compared to what else was on the market. The 4 cyl gas motor on the E was underpowered and the grain tank was on the small side at 45 bushel (dad put a 2x6 board all the way around as a grain tank extension). Steering was manual. It had a single lever control for header control and ground speed, which was pretty nice. Controls were well placed and you had a good view of the platform from the seat. The seat was similar to the one shown in this film, pretty much just a piece of square plywood with 2 inches of foam...back rest was 1 inch of foam. Luckily I was just a kid so I didn't mind the limited comfort this provided. It was pretty easy on gas, as I recall you could pretty much go all day on one tank. Material fed through the machine pretty well, I don't remember ever plugging it up. You had to keep an eye on the rock trap door light, sometimes a slug going through the cylinder would pop the rock door open. Looking back, I have fond memories of running that ol' E, but I don't think I would want to go back. For one thing, I think today's crops would overwhelm its limited capacity. Even back then it struggled in a good crop year. I drove by the old Gleaner plant in Independence a few years ago...it looked pretty much abandoned.

@kenlangdon505 Жыл бұрын

Yea p

@shaggydogg630 11 ай бұрын

I wish I could go to my AGCO dealer and buy a new F. Have owned many of them throughout the years. Loved them all.

@danielheckmann4898 5 жыл бұрын

Great! I love these old combines. Oldtimer and also youngtimer tractors are cool. Many Greets from Germany

@nickkercheval2704 5 жыл бұрын

I’m running a JD S670 and I’m ready to buy a C model after that presentation! 440 acres in 11 and a half days at 12 or 14 feet at a time in soybeans with no flex/auto header height is very impressive. Some long days!

@jacwilson2578 3 жыл бұрын

that is some dedication. respect

@michaelvogel2522 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys, keep it coming, I love my Allis Chalmers equipment

@farmcentralohio 5 жыл бұрын

great video. i've done some crazy, maybe dumb things but the combine on the back of the truck, with the header on even, is something i don't think id be eager to try

@mattlf9120 4 жыл бұрын

Probably just a wicker basket blocking the tire.

@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын

I remember these tractor very much so in eastern washington. I was small but loud and people would take me to work with them to get me out of the way. I would pretend to run them and make noises. I have seen/been with tractor operators for many hours often leaving at break of day and the tractor coming it at about somewhere just after dark!! Yep them were days of hard work and a smile if you did good. I found my dad at about age eight or nine so went with him and he was a logger/miner and it was a whole new world to me

@builtbyjoe 5 жыл бұрын

I still run these old Gleaners I have a model k and a model K2 use them in rice in California great little machines

@mattlf9120 4 жыл бұрын

I run a model F in corn doing a bunch of custom work in my neighborhood. Been doing this for 17 years now with the ol' F

@mattlf9120 4 жыл бұрын

Wish I had a few of those brand new C's. Might only be a handful left in some Kansas fence rows.

@interman7715 5 жыл бұрын

Man the U.S used to make some cool stuff.

@nonyadamnbusiness9887 2 жыл бұрын

This sort of bullshit attitude has really ruined the country. Gleaner is still made in America, much bigger and more durable and easier to operate.

@nikerailfanningttm9046 2 жыл бұрын

@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 yeah, some people have no brains when it comes to our most famous combine manufacturer ever....they think they are built in Canada or Mexico lmfao....we only use Gleaners on our farm

@Gavinwahl3456 11 ай бұрын

I love gleaners

@TonyZilincik 5 жыл бұрын

GREAT video!!!

@CrestonMoore 5 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@paulbrooks2024 5 жыл бұрын

This was the leader of it day.

@nikerailfanningttm9046 2 жыл бұрын

GLEANERS still are the leaders today....nothing beats a Gleaner, we only run Gleaners on our setup

@bdnmb6822 3 жыл бұрын

Those controls were handier than a 7720 even on those ole girls 😂

@dreisternehof 3 жыл бұрын

Gleaner Combines are not available in Germany, but it seems to me, they should! Gleaner and Massey Harris were the most innovative brands in developping combines and it seems to me, that the today built Gleaner's are very effective working machines!

@joakrage3972 Жыл бұрын

In some European countries they are painted red and marketed as a massey Ferguson

@dreisternehof Жыл бұрын

@@joakrage3972 Sure the tangential rotor-type's? Do You know a type number?

@joakrage3972 Жыл бұрын

Massey Ferguson T7 I believe is the model, the only ones I've heard of for sure were in Ukraine

@joakrage3972 Жыл бұрын

They are wider than most European combines so that make them challenging to market in most countries there

@pdrphil8159 2 жыл бұрын

Look at combines today... Air conditioned cabs , monster grain tanks & a cutter head 4x bigger than you see here.. Not to mention the hp available .

@calvinellis1891 2 жыл бұрын

I started out driving a A gleaner combine 14’ header.

@fk4515 5 жыл бұрын

looks pretty tall on the truck, wonder what the height is?

@tiger5551 3 жыл бұрын

Boy you didn’t know how dusty and dirty that operater got on a open cab combine

@kw9849 3 жыл бұрын

Cold too. My grandfather has many memories of combining in the an open cab machine late in the year, wearing a parka to keep the bitter Canadian cold away.

@tiger5551 3 жыл бұрын

@@kw9849 yup once my grandpa found heated and ac cooled cabs, he never went back

@frankwurth5375 Жыл бұрын

Cab-less gleaners were the worst for the driver. If the wind was behind you, you got the dirt bath from the rear discharge. If the wind was from the front, he got it from the low, front cylinder. The dust would just boil up from the thing. Compared from the other makes the early Gleaners were the most driver unfriendly out there. Also Gleaners were the first to get cabs because of this. The after market cab builders were started up mainly for Gleaners! It took Allis engineers a long time to get the message from farmers, and put a user friendly cab on the damn thing!

@dustinsudkamp3722 4 жыл бұрын

will you have all the footage from all the footage of the Machinery of past VHS to come any chance this footage gets put on DVDs available to the public?

@JandLVideos 4 жыл бұрын

I only have a few of the VHS tapes, however we are in the beginning stages of working on a DVD of some of these old films that I have on 16mm

@robertpayne2717 5 жыл бұрын

I think the first combine I ever saw with a cab was either a 95 series John Deere or a Massey Ferguson combine in Mid 60's

@SilverGleaner 3 жыл бұрын

My Dad had, still has sitting in the weeds, a 1961 E that he farmed with for years and it has the factory installed cab.

@lt1nut 2 жыл бұрын

@@SilverGleaner WOW!!!!!

@SilverGleaner 2 жыл бұрын

@@lt1nut it wasn't a factory built cab but it was factory installed. By 1965 Allis offered air conditioning in the tractors and I assume the combines too. The first good cab in my opinion, for a combine was when Gleaner came out with the L in 1972. They ran that same basic cab with improvements along the way through 1991.

@ironken1796 2 жыл бұрын

Spent many hours when I was a kid on my Grandpa's JD 95. He used to pay me to crawl up it's ass end and poke the stuck corn cobs out of the straw walkers with a screwdriver. I loved every minute of it. I miss that old Italian!

@SuperColonel91 4 жыл бұрын

Must be the best xombine in the world, I see alot of farmers who own them

@SilverGleaner 3 жыл бұрын

Gleaner sold the most combines in the US from the 1960's into the 1980's. Allis Chalmers was number 1 before that with all those pull-type All-Crop combines.

@lt1nut 2 жыл бұрын

Every color has good and bad points, the main thing is having a very good dealer no matter the color. I'm "in" Racine, WI - the hometown of J. I. Case - but have a sweet spot for Gleaner's history.

@arcticcatrider4945 4 жыл бұрын

My farm owns 4 gleaner s77

@MrNelan72 4 жыл бұрын

What model was an enclosed cab our first Gleaner was the goto machine then the replacement came in the 80s. I know where both of them still are. Former neighbor farms

@mattlf9120 4 жыл бұрын

Cabs were optional. 1972 it was standard equipment on the big model L and all series 2 combines (K2, F2, M2, L2) from 1977 onward.