Thank you Cap, I appreciate you taking this request. It's going to be good.

Robbie Risner was a legend at this point he was already an Ace from the Korean War. He was featured in History channels Dogfights. This bridge and how sturdy it was, was the direct catalyst into the US creating Laser Guided Munitions. Precision munitions. There were obviously various additional factors, but this mission was a main reason

Nice! Now I want to see this from the Migs' perspectives. Imagine being outnumbered 10:1 and your job is to protect the bridge.

No Grump? We couldn't enjoy the mission approved snacks and customer service calls to go with that air to air meditation.

Excellent job on the refuel all things considered, Cap.

❤Cap wishing you and all the Boys well!

The briefing at the start is always so well done Cap, but you got me real good this time. Sat here watching and I'm looking around the Gulf of Tonkin. My eyes slowly wander over to the small island off shore and I'm like "Port Stanley? But thats... Wait, is that the Falklands "Port Stanley". Is there another Port Stanley off the coast of Vietnam, it can't be the Falklands." Took me a good 90 secs for it to "click". This heat today has melted my brain. lmfao 😂🤣🙃 Well done sir.

The Thach Weave was developed by John S Thach along with Edward "Butch" O'Hare. It came about because of the "under performance" of the F4F Wildcats when going up against the, at the time much better, A6M Zero. The Fat Electrician has a great video talking about Butch O'Hare and how he shot down 5 enemy planes in 4 minutes.

just watched the operations room video on this mission and then i see this video is a wonderful surprise

I remember setting up missions on my 486 with Jane's US Navy Fighters 97. That opening scene gave me flashbacks (although the graphics weren't as good then obviously)

GR being Kelly's Heroes...... Dark would be 'Oddball' 😂

DCS needs a hyper-real Crimean bridge.

Love these re-enactments you gents do! Thank you!

there was some great flying there, and a sexy dogfight at the end. truly, supercap, best cap.

When the USN decided the F-111 wasn't for them we here in Oz were happy to give them a home. They remained a mainstay in the RAAF for the next 40 years and are much beloved for their participation in dump and burns as part of large public displays, such as the Riverfire festival in Brisbane. The fact that they could operate in all weather conditions and haul a gravity bomb to Jakarta unescorted was a handy feature.

This is what I am talking about, something about Vietnam era aviation is just so special to witness the difficulties and challenges involved. I would love to see a large wargame filled with AI North Vietnamese SAM, AA batteries and Mig23/17's on intercept with Blue AI AG flights, with you guys operating A4's or F4's fighting in the contested airspace either CAP, SEAD/DEAD, CAS, Strike etc. It would be extremely difficult to set up and get the required numbers so I do not expect it anytime soon but a simulation where one can imagine how difficult the actual combat missions were back then. Alternatively, would be fascinating to see if you could replicate a Vietnam air assault (UH-1) multiple chalk flights delivering troops to combat and the dangers and challenges those missions inherently had. Or a what-if scenario late Vietnam war, operating F14 tomcats in place of major strikes/cap taken place by other aircraft using weapons of the era on the F14 platform to see the difference if any versus the real events. Another what-if albeit less realistic, what if the AH64D was operational with it's full modern or not, load out during Vietnam war, replacing dangerous missions performed by the huey gunship and AH-1's what impact could an advanced helicopter have over the conflict. Vietnam war presents itself as such a fascinating conflict to test ones skill, and bring to light the dangers that were present that we often do not know or have forgotten about. By doing these missions you are keeping the conflict and the sacrifices made by all parties involved in the forefront of our minds, so that their sacrifices will never be forgotten, especially to younger generations who may not know the details of the conflict. Yes, it is entertainment, but by replicating real-world missions you provide a starting curiosity into an event, in which one could further read about and better understand the real events and thus you keep the memories and history alive. Cap, Simba, Dark, Pooch and all GR members you guys are legendary for the entertainment you provide, as an aerosexual who loves all things aviation I have honestly learned a lot from watching your videos new and old, from real world Pakistan and India operations I wasn't cognisant of and later read about. To intricate details regarding weapons and aircraft performance and envelopes albeit with pinch of salt between DCS and reality or my favourite being watching the strategies you guys choose in PVP to turn disadvantages into advantages. I appreciate everything you do.

That maneuvering and camera work at 35:35 was Hollywood grade, amazing!! well done!

That looked awfully stressful, chaps! Well done.

While filling any pressure bearing vessel an event known as adiabatic heating can occur and create internal combustion through compression just like a piston driven diesel motor. BOOM.

My old man was a mechanic in Thailand at that time, keeping our planes in the air.

The Thud was a divisive light bomber. For some missions it was from somewhat effective to very effective. For some not so much. It certainly was extremely fast, but especially the early models could have been more reliable. Still to me a fine piece of military aviation history.

When we went to the Hill airbase museum I got see all of the Century Series fighters. I had already seen static displays of the F-100, -101, -102, and -104. The ones I was most excited to see was the "Thud" and the F-106. A bridge attack "though the ages" mission would be cool.

Another brilliant scenario played out by beautiful humans and sexy AI. The Phantom is a gift that keeps on giving

The F-100s did surprisingly well in this dogfight.

Speaking of air-to-air refuelling . . . Operation Black Buck in 1982 had multiple iterations of refuelling. At night. And one of those was in a storm.

David B. Waldrop (3x SS, 3x DFC, etc... 1 MiG-17 confirmed plus 1 probable) ... the gunsight camera footage of a MiG-17 getting smoked (the ubiquitous Vietnam-era gun kill footage) is his. I met him in the early-90s when he was a captain at Delta Airlines and had a side-gig as an IP for Sky Warriors (laser tag in T-34s). One of the most down-to-earth and self-effacing men I have ever met. He was the only IP on their board that didn't have a callsign... best I can tell, his callsign was "sir."

When I was maintaining KC-135s, we would have to slather up the boom probe with tons of grease before refueling F-4s. F-4 pilots were notorious for breaking off the probe. My father was stationed at Bien Hoa AB in the late 60's, as a KC-135 crew chief. I have old photos he took from the boom pod, refueling these same aircraft in this reenactment.

Apparently, ED has updated the air to air refuel time in the F4E in the July 11 patch. You'll have to see what the new refuel time is.

Although this campaign was ultimately unsuccessful and we lost damn near a thousand aircraft, Cap was right when he said that this woke up the US military and government to the fact we sucked ass. The Air Force was only trained to intercept Soviet bombers in route to drop nucs on the American mainland. We changed ALL THAT in a few years

Cap, it would help if during dogfighting you would set the gun sight to A/A and use the radar. You may find that the gun suddenly isn't useless.

Somebody watches Operations Room! All the best!

Fat Electrician had that pilot ace story too I think… O’Hare airport named after him

Fun fact, Thunderchiefs had more gun kills in Vietnam than all other US types combined.

You know Cap, after what you said about the Super Sabres carrying more bombs than the venerable B-17's, how's about replacing the B-17's in some of those large bombing missions with the Super Sabres. After all, they are AI so, watching them attempt one of your many WW2 missions would be rather squidgy, yes, I said squidgy. So, same amount of aircraft, more bombs. More accurate? A scientific mission appears to be on the cards.

Good Mission!

The Thach Weave was developed by John Thach in 1941 to overcome the Wildcat’s disadvantage to the Zero. It was not developed by a Thud pilot.

F-4 looks like a steam engine, with the smoke trail :)

It really is a form of very stressful yet oddly calming meditation. I found the Phantom stable and easy to refuel. For guns better to get in CAA mode for radar guided reticle lead.

Could you imagine an air fleet of armed SR-71's?

Losing nuclear-capable, Mach 2 jets in a low-level, subsonic, conventional bombing mission is like wondering why you have a smashed hand and a broken pipe wrench after trying to use it to hammer a railroad spike. The Air Force designed some great tools for a particular job and then proceeded to use them for something else entirely.

Am drunk, and you confused me I thought Im having a stroke. You need to warn people that you've been "creative" with maps. 😁

F-101, we had one each at Tyndall AFB in the early 80's.

Fighters and bombers used in this scenario are parked in Arizona desert. KC135s still doing their jobs.

Cap. When you need to refuel just remember to use the force, let it guide your actions. 😀👍

I did pine for you these last few days.

I would love to see this mission done with a B52 arclight raid.

They need to add the Aardvark

F-105's were designed to drop tactical nukes so they were only marginal as a close in bomber.

The F105 wasn’t really meant for this kind of mission. It was assumed any war would be nuclear, and the F105 was really meant to deliver a nuke. For THAT mission, the F105 was perfect. What this mission and Vietnam in general did was make the AF and Navy realize there would be wars that weren’t nuclear and required conventional capabilities.

That was a good one

The F105 were designed to carry their tactical nuke internally. I don’t believe hanging all those iron bombs off the wings was ever envisioned in the initial design.

CAP. Refuel the F4 over the canopy bow. Much easier. Use the tanker belly and marks on it to stay in range. Panel colors change, panel lines, etc. Much easier.

@TheOperationsRoom did a good video on this

7.022 LTR INTERNAL FUEL

Is what happens when you go to war with crappy training and kit designed for a different kind of war.

Candid CyberCap @8:12

4.060 LTR FOR THE F16 INTERNAL FUEL

Cap "Each one of those Thunderchiefs carried more bombs than a B-17 in World War II" Well, yes, but the bomb bay capacity was not the B-17's main selling point. Several of the B-17's contemporaries could carry larger bomb loads, significantly so in some cases. And when the B-29 entered service, it made all the other bombers obsolescent overnight, despite its teething troubles.

I think the bots have finally quit lesss goooo

Thanks I enjoy the Vietnam era aircraft , the technology was at a cusp between useless & good😮 and aircraft often pressed into roles they weren’t really designed for....is there an f105 or f100 or crusader models in DCS? If so would love to see missions with those from the cockpit please?

How would the F-105 have performed vs Warsaw Pact forces in a "hot" scenario in Europe, if it was ever deployed in such a context?

what ever happened to kortana?

Are y'all going to do a tribute Admiral Pete "Viper" Pettigrew?

Have you considered posting the long form videos on GR2 with the quality banter as you travel from t/o to mission area?

Sir make video on pak vs indian air force war plz

Can you do this mission again with Paveway or similar LGB?

hi Cap can you please take a look at a single C-17 using the "revolver supersonic missile system" 12 Boeing x51 attack against something , as you have tested Rapid Dragon in before thanks.

Much though I like Caps flying fortress quote, the point really isn't that Phantoms carried alot of bombs (relatively) but that the flying fortress carried comparatively few! Vietnam led directly to the A7 and A10.

What, no A-4, dislike! ;D JK. Still trying to get brakes sorted and trim (keeps going in the direction i press) on the A-4 a month after i re-download it, gave up 3 months ago...

How the hell did you match vietnam jungles to Argentina's patagonia WTF!!!!!

Could F-105s raid Schweinfurt successfully?

Thud run.

You put Chinese skins on the migs

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Hi cap, my name is lucky and I am a Nigerian (don't laugh). I love dcs world but I cannot afford to get a PC for it, I dream about dcs when I sleep I need help please

Dark, I really believe if you put forth just a little less effort, you could increase the volume of your vocal fry. It’s so pleasant to hear a man talk that sounds like he’s sitting on the crapper trying to pass a green pinecone backwards. Very, very annoying.