Day After Day - Badfinger

My mother had a 1973 v4 96. I have fond memories of that car. My brother & I both learnt to drive and passed our driving tests first time in the 96, taught only by our father in the 80's. Great cars, odd ball and built like a tank.

My parents owned a 1959 model 92 in black and a 1968 model 96 2 stroke. The 1968 had 3 Solex carburetors and I loved that car. Sadly the attendant at the gas station didn’t add the oil when he put in the 8 gallons of gas. My mom left the station and drove a few miles only to have the motor seize up. I walked down to the gas station to talk with them and sure enough the can of oil was there on top of the fuel pump unopened. Back then that’s how the story ended with just an apology. I think of that car often and the loss my parents took with it. It was the first new car my dad had ever bought and it cost him $1800.00 at Gaston Aundrey in Watertown MA. I remember the ride home in it from the dealer. I loved it!

10:35 - you are correct, those are C-pillar (exhaust) vents for the "flow-through" ventilation, designed to let stale/humid air escape the interior and be replaced by fresh air coming out of the HVAC system. They are located on the pillars because an area of low pressure is created in that region when the car is moving, "helping" the air to get out. Modern cars have similar vents, but they are usually located behind the rear bumper, because placing them on the pillar usually let the moisture to collect in the trunk, and have flaps for valves, apparently to prevent backflow.

Saabs are such unique vehicles!!! Thanks Jay for reviewing this one!! 👍👍🙂

My 2nd SAAB was a 1968 GT Monte Carlo - LUVed that car! 4-speed column shift with an oil reservoir to meter the oil into the fuel instead of adding oil to the gas tank.

One of my best friends in high school had one of these and I remember helping him recarpet it. I'm 69 now so this was quite a few years ago..🤠

Jack in Cape Town South Africa Owned the 93 (750cc)and the 96 (850cc) 3 strokes loved them !! The V4 motor was added late in the 60's I am 6ft 2 inch (1.88m) tall Nobody mentiones that you move the front seats forward and tilt its backrests , lift out the back seat and undo the wooden toggle inside the trunk holding the bsck rest im place Lie the backrest where the sest was , slide removed seat in behind front sests and...girlfriend and i could " sleep " in comfort This conversion wsd mentioned in the owners manuall Build and paint superb Thanks for the feature

Fenders and quarters are separate as most cars. I remember seeing these the the 1968 Auto Expo at the Los Angeles sports arena with my dad. The Expo was the annual foreign car show held in May at that time.

I have two Saabs in my collection. A 1966 Mod 96 Monte Carlo 850 (841 cc two stroke) tribute model to Saabs racing and rally racing heritage. And a early 1968 Sonett 2 V4. They are fantastic little gems of a car. A ton of fun to drive. Miles of smiles! Great overview video.

My neighbor had a 65 with a two stroke engine. Sounded like a chain saw when it ran. Actually a nice car.

Interesting that SAAB ..and also Spyker who bought them in the end game both had Aero themes , albeit more extravagant in the Spyker. The dash knobs in question would be 1.rheostat for the dash lights .....2. headlights Now that your a YT star Jay ...time for new rounded specs and maybe a Goatee.🤓

Such an interesting car. I was sad when they stopped making the convertibles - i always wanted to get one for a mid life crisis. Now I am too old. I hope you feel better soon, Jay. Great job as always. Second coming of Christ LMFAO‼

Hello from Wales. A late friend, a garage/repair shop owner and mechanic had a V4 96. I'd love a 93, but fitted with an 1100cc two stroke triple from TSS in Australia. 240 BHP ! They did fit one of those engines in a Kawasaki ZX10R motorbike some years ago.

I had a Swedish friend with one of these 96 Saabs. The "pocket" that called your attention on the driver's side was used to keep an umbrella

The reverse scoops on the upper body sides are indeed cabin air extractors. The formerly clear plastic pieces on the upper doors are draft and rain deflectors. They are necessary due to the unusual way in which the door windows roll down.

I had '67 that looks like the '68 except for the window deflectors and the scoops on the window pillars. Mine had the 2-stroke, and that car was great fun to drive, it was 2 or 3 years old when I bought it but it was like brand new. That car was great fun to drive, thank you for another great memory!

I had a 96 and I loved it. Fun car to drive. Passed everything on the road on a snowy day and many cars that slid off the road due to the weather. The clutchless shifting due to the free wheeling made it easy to drive. Only had to use the clutch to start out and reverse. Great car.

I want this '68! Such a cool little vehicle, always admired and seen a couple over the years. I've never seen the '59s and, like u Jay, prefer the cleaner, tear drop shape! Saab was one of the better quality auto makes, too.

11:40 There is a wind deflector at the trailing edge of the window frame. Note the outlet vents around the package shelf. 12:10 I notice you overlooked the T-handle to the right of the pedals. You pulled it to lock out the freewheel mechanism in the transmission. No mention, either of the four-speed column shift and the funky reverse shift. Pull the shift lever about a quarter-inch to the right from the column, back toward you, and down. 13:50 The turn-switch is the instrument light dimmer, the "Second Coming" knob is headlights. 14:40 All Saabs model 95 and 96 came with a cut-out for the radio to be mounted in the glove box. If you wanted a radio they took out a body-color delete plate.

I expect one reason for the change to the v-4 is the difficulty or perhaps impossibility of making a two stroke meet emissions standards for 1968.

A girlfriend had a 1965 2-stroke, mixing motor oil with the gas when we filled up. Four-speed on the tree. It was fun driving in the heavy snows faster than most anyone else. That was the space for the original radio which had it's own door within the door for the glove box originally, but it was for just a small AM radio. I remember the straight 4 cylinder in the Saab model 99 had the engine installed backwards.

I'll take the Saab, the karmann ghia had lousy heaters.The saab heaters were excellent. You also skipped over the free-wheeling device, the pull cord to the right of the gas pedal. That allowed the motor to drop to an idle so the car could coast, greatly improving gas mileage.

I can remember how the three-stroke sounded like as it idled. The v-4 was a great innovation, one didn't have to monitor or add oil. to the gasoline. Great in snow, I owned several in Maine. The doors used to open toward the front. hinges next to the back of the driver seat. Owned one in high school, one after the army, and one in college.

V4's are my favorite engine config of all time. they sound so good!! it's like a baby V8

What a cute little car , i would drive that in a heart beat !

The Scoop you're referring to is the air outlet for the flow-through ventilation system. My wife and I had a 1967 SAAB 96 two stroke, and I can tell you, it was decades ahead of most of the rest of the automotive industry! The V 4 was introduced in 1967 as an optional powerplant, but the two stroke was available through 1968 models in the U.S. Those tail light lenses were used from 1960. The plastic triangles on the windows were for airflow. They practically eliminated any buffeting. You could drive with the windows down, yet the car's interior was quite and serene. If my comments make me appear prejudiced in favor of the SAAB, it's because I am. My SAAB 96 two stroke is one of my favorite cars I've ever owned. We bought it mainly for its incredible safety features. That IS the factory location for the radio. Under the rear seat is a wooden cam shaft, which allows 3 different settings for seat height & angle. As to the trunk, SAAB used to advertise using it as a sleeping space for two adults when camping. The SAAB 96 was a really amazing car, and even though it's been out of production since 1980, in my opinion, it's more advanced technologically than a lot of today's George Jetson cars. In all those scenarios...SAAB!

If memory serves me, later SAABs had the ignition between the front seats in the console.

The bodies were built unibody, like the VW type 1 Beetle. Also like the Beetle, the fenders, doors, bonnet and boot covers were all bolt-on. The bodies were very strong and protective in a roll-over. Those vents on the "C" pillars are for air to escape creating the flow-thru ventilation. Those plastic pieces on the windows were air-deflectors so you could drive with the windows down and not affect the aerodynamics much. In modern cars, it takes more horsepower to drive with the windows open than driving with the A/C on and the windows rolled up. Because the V4's which SAAB used had the same bore as the Ford Cologne 2600 V6 used in the Capri here, when I built the 1700 V4's the owners would have me install the pistons out of the 2600 V6. They felt that raised the compression. The engine/transaxle configuration put the engine behind the transaxle. Other cars of this era, like Citroen, used this configuration With the SAAB 99, they bought 4 cyl. engines from Triumph(we got them here in the TR7). With this engine, SAAB put it on top of the transaxle. SAAB licensed this engine from Triumph and built them for themselves. Interestingly, these SAAB's had freewheeling clutches, and would freewheel when you took your foot off the accelerator pedal. The Sonnetts were fun to drive and very lightweight due to their fiberglass bodies. Styling wise, I like the Sonnett III the best, which had the 1700 V6.

Between 1978 and 1985, I lived in New England, and owned a 1969 Saab 96 that I must have put easily 100,000 + miles on a well used car already. When I was about to leave school (RISD) to attend grad school in NYC I decided to sell it, and placed an ad on a builtin board somewhere. What happened next was remarkable; three students got in a bidding war that catapulted my intended price to well over what I had paid for it almost eight years before.

The 96 looks kind of like a '70s Super Beetlle from the back (the window, taillights, wheels, etc.).

What look like "Air scoops" behind the rear side windows were air vent outlets to promote through flow ventilation. Lots of saloon cars of the era introduced similar ventilation outlets. I had a 1972 model and the back seat could be tipped forward and the seat back hinged down making a much larger flat floor for long loads, almost like a semi estate. I actually slept in the back with the seat down on a few occasions when needed. The spare wheel was under the boot, or in American "Trunk", floor there was quite a lot of useful space around the side of the spare wheel for small spare parts, tools and other bits and pieces. From memory I think the wheel jack was also located in the space but cannot remember the exact details if it was kept inside or outside the spare wheel as it was many years ago since I owned the car. The was a useful volume of space under the back seat where I stored food supplies for camping trips. We spent a lot of time in the remote highlands of Scotland where shops were not always plentiful without driving long distances on narrow, twisty single track roads that were the norm in those days. The SAAB was brilliant in the winter snow that was frequently covering the roads in Scotland before increased global warming made such occurrences a rarity. The body shape had very low drag. I always used the "Freewheel" facility and could cost for miles down some of the longer descending roads in Scotland. After the SAAB I bought a Volvo 340 and the vehicle would not coast down those same hills with increasing speed like the SAAB did, but needed power input to keep going. There was no power assistance so the steering was quite heavy at parking speeds and the large steering wheel was necessary.

Saab 96 was very funny and nice to drive - specially clutch and shifting gears. I miss to drive that again some day

The scoop behind the rear window is to release air pressure when you slam the door. The first gen Toyota 4Runner had the same vent. I owned a Gen 1 4Runner.

The amazing SAAB 96, winner of many car rally's, beating much more powerful and exotic cars from all around Europe. I watched a documentary about the Saab's, and very much a beloved car by all its owners. The championship driver of the Saab looked a most unlikely candidate, he must have been 6"8' and 140KG. A real bear of a man. So he had to fit, and his navigator just yelled out the turns to him over the screams of the engine, while he reacted in blind faith and kept the thing on the road in the snowy conditions. Masterful. Have you seen the ice bikes they race? And the giant wheeled 4WD vehicles they modify with giant scoop tyres, and they have a really fast run up and drive straight over the top of a lake. Really. The swedes are remarkable for such a small population. Your comments about European cars, or at least an awful lot of them, are the ones that found a particular niche, and became much loved, were retained, with some improvements periodically arising. Pretty much every nation in Europe with car manufacturing did this. The concept of consumerism was an American way of life, much reviled by some Europeans as wasteful. (Remember, the whole place was a wasteland following WWII) They started out with motorbikes with sidecars, then midget cars with room for two, and went from there. For them anything was an improvement, and it takes a long time to recover mentally physically and financially from such a devastating war, where everything needed rebuilding. Just getting food and water was a bonus for many years, so it should be no surprise that they hung back a little, and waited. Just you look at them now, though. They are the champs for cars, along with the Japanese. Ford and GM are still well represented, but they are locally designed and built, to suit the conditions and the tastes of their market. (Ford & GM were building vehicles for the German war effort too, if you recall?) The SKF ball bearing plant in Schweinfurt, in which so many Americans lost their lives, was an American company too, as was Coca-Cola and many others. After the allies blew the crap out of these factories, they were paid restitution by the US government. Sorry about blowing you up, it was war, you know? Weird really. An awful lot of accountants are needed for wars, lots of double entry bookkeeping. 1X Ford factory, 1300000000 reichsmarks. Of course IBM made the German war machine so efficient, with their tabulators being smuggled in through Switzerland by IBM's agents, which got the trains running and kept a tally on the undesirables who needed transport to camps. A war crime, we sort of don't worry about too much.

Hi, Jay! Thanks for your hands on approach to the car that I bought for $300 from a professor in 1985, and kept through 2013, then moved to Netherlands, switched to bicycles, and never wanted another car again, unless it were a Hertz/Avis/Budget rented at an airport. I see that your questions are mostly answered, but if curious, please let me know, and I'll do my best as I know every bolt, every cog. Enough about me. A lot is made clear that SAAB were the first, or amongst the first, to do wind tunnel testing on a car whilst in development, and in refinement over the years. The car was optimised and had a very low drag coefficient. SAAB knew all the high and low pressure areas, and so, were able to design things like the "ears" over the C-pillar exhaust vents, to provide passive airflow and keep the rain out. The same explanation holds true for those sun-clouded plastic or acrylic inserts at the top rear of each window. And yes, the unibody construction was quite advanced for its time, the major components stamped out in dies, then welded together into a really strong unibody. Somewhere you may find a video of someone being rolled down a ski slope in a SAAB 96, and then at the bottom of the slope, starts the car and drives away.

@10:40 the vent scoops help pull air out from the holes in the parcelshelf in the back window - they made a big deal about "through ventilation". A very nice thing in a moist cold winter day, you don't need cracked open windows to keep mist-free - the moisture is sucked out at the back, and fresh heated air is coming in at the front defroster and on the floor.

My first car was a ‘64 3 cylinder 2 stroke and then a ‘68 V4. I loved those cars.

6:05 The vents behind the side windows were exactly that, vents to exhaust stale air from the passenger cabin. Fresh air in through the cowl vents, stale air out the rear vents. If I remember correctly, the corresponding vents in the model 95 were in a sort of spoiler over the tailgate.

my neighbors had a 1964. I rode in it many times in the front passenger seat. The way that my friend's dad drove it, I felt like I was in a rally race. The sound of the engine, the smell of the 2 stroke exhaust. The car was extremely agile, and safe. First in safety, it had lap, and shoulder belts, boron in the steel body to make it extremely stiff, and durable. It seemed to handle like it was riding on rails, like I was on a car thrill ride! I was way too young to drive it.

@13:53 The lower left knob is the rheostat dimmer for the instrument lights. lower right is headlights.

nice review on the Saab Justin. its a nice little car.

I had a white 1969 96 w/ a v4. Loved it! 4 speed on the column. Great handler/performer. Kicked myself for selling it.

At 12:00 you failed to mention the "T" handle to the right of the gas pedal. That lever is the free-wheel. When engaged, it allowing the car to 'coast' without engine braking. It was supposed to increase fuel mileage; however, what you saved in fuel you paid for in brake pads.

The mystery switch next to the headlights is the panel lights. Wiper and washer are on the steering column. The 2 switches next to the clock are just extra switches.

I owned two of them. Not at the same time,though. Got me through my 20’s.

Sorry to sound so negative, but I see a lot of videos that get basic SAAB information wrong. I have grown up with SAABs all my life and even worked at a SAAB dealership so certain things jump out at me when they aren't technically correct. Thanks for making the video anyway. SAAB should never be forgotten since they were a very unique company that was often ahead of its time.

96 all around awkward, brittle tail section. Original, brilliant and simple. Thanks for this all new to me vid.

I would rather have a Karmann Ghia in a heartbeat. My father in law drove a 69 Ghia, I loved the car. So sorry we sold it when he passed away.

In the 70s I had a '67 (96) Monte Carlo 850, 3cyl 2stroke, 3 carbs, great car, 15 mpg. Cushy seats w adjustable lumbar support, wood rim aluminum steering wheel, automatic oiling.

The vents in the rear pillars are for 'flow through ventilation'. The 60s were when carmakers started taking heating and ventilation seriously. So you got air vents in the dashboard, which this car has, and the vents in the back pillars to give the air somewhere to exit. Now every car has it, so 'flow through ventilation' is no longer mentioned. The thingies in the doors are probably part of it too, so you could crack your window open for even more ventilation without rain coming in. I don't know for sure, but this car does look as though fenders would detach.

Saab 3 cylinder 2 stroke was almost a direct copy of a DKW engine.

Owned several...also owned a station wagon, wanted a sonnet. One variable was they way the doors opened.

Love that haircut! The Swedes really changed thinking about automobiles in the late 60s and early 70s. This was not only true for safety features, but the whole concept about how to manufacture a vehicle. If you ever come across a 142 Volvo from 1972, the high point of what I am talking about, review it. Amazing what you will find.

11.55 It is a wind deflector, It whorks very well. You can have the windows down and it is almost silent. I have is on my 96 here in Sweden.

The 2stroke with freewheel was genius, and a great idea for today's cars. The v4 was comfy, reliable, economical, and incredibly safe. It was a true classic, not just the 92,95,96 but also the 900. The gm and on cars were rubbish.

So being under the weather is the only time you can sing in a "Bing Crosby "tone!

The way the back window is shaped around the body sort of reminds me of a 50s Citroën DS

, I luved my 96 soo much I bought a 900t when they first came out. The 96 was the 2stroke 3 and it was a tiger. I ate BMW 2002s up through 3rd gear. It reved to 12k! Had free wheeling and auto shutoff when the oil (2 stroke) ran low. A real kickasscar UNLKE the 99 non turbocharger. The 900t was a fitting replacement for the 96

Jay Leno featured a 2 cycle Saab on his channel some time ago. The engine sounded like a moped that I drove once, for it had a cute high-pitched whine like a rapidly spinning top and a constant wispy sputter like a mad bee hive. I don’t know about the V-4 but the 2 cycle was supposed be great In subzero weather.

The 1958 thru 1960 Ford Thunderbird was all one unit. Made for an ultra strong body shell. I'm going to stick my neck out and say the Chevrolet Corvair was also a single unit. Please let me know if I'm wrong. You did a nice job on this vide. SAABs are unique automobiles.

Oh man that would you rather between this, the ghia and the giulietta is tough!

The knobs to the left of the steering wheel, on the bottom, are (left) panel lights, and (right) headlights. I don't know what the knobs on either side of the clock are. I think the scoops behind the rear side windows are for ventilation (note that the car has no vent windows and no air conditioning). I owned a Saab 900 (later, bigger model). I was constantly having trouble with it and I sold it a couple of years later.

Thank you ! I've always been a fan of these cars. Early Saabs can be many things for many people, but there's one thing that is quite certain - they are nothing if not distinctive. Unlike the more recent products from this make, unfortunately... P.S. I'd rather have this '68 because I like the frontal styling more. The V4 is kind of a bummer, but at least a more practical choice than the two-stroke. Karmann-Ghia is too small for me to fit into, and the Alfa is just not my cup o'tea.

The little plastic visors set into the door windows are there to allow you to drop the window a little and not get a draft on your neck

Chevy Corvair! Take a look at it. The 2 buttons on the left side are for the lights, the first is for the panel lights and the other is for the headlights.! The 2 buttons on the left side are for the lights, the first is for the panel lights and the other is for the headlights.

Olds Starfire, of yeah. The front 3/4 top-down view suggests a 67 Valiant, every time I see it.

I never liked Saabs buf after i watched your video i have more appreciation for them.keep up the good work.hope u feel better!

Saab were still associated with wind tunnels, and applied the principles to their cars.

I am working on a1968 96 wagon and I am trying to figure out how the back seat behind the drivers seat , how does it lock in place. Help please

1968 Saab 96 and the Alfa Romeo. The lines of the 93 may flow more nicely, but that is not enough to overcome its disadvantages. The Saab two-stroke engines had poor idling characteristics and tended to not last. When Saab offered replacements, they wound up replacing almost all of them (though it was cheap). The Ford engine originally from Cologne's Taunus 12M was from the Cardinal project, which was a U.S. development shoved onto Germany when the Falcon was preferred (it was even cheaper). That engine had four separate crank throws like the Lancia V4, but had a 60-degree angle between the cylinder banks, and had a balance shaft running at engine speed. It was vastly superior but far more expensive than the two-stroke. By the way, the initial Saab engine was a two-cylinder two-stroke even cheaper than the three. As I understand it, the three was 850cc. Saab originally used the contemporary DKW as a model to start from, but as an airplane company, went for streamlining.

Oh yes,these '93 is wonderful

This is a SAAB story...

I don't know what it is, but there's always something about these small, quirky, yet very distinct looking European cars, that always have such a strange appeal to me. I think I would without a doubt choose the '59 Alfa Romeo Julianne or whatever. That's one of my favorite Christmas songs, probably because it was one of my mother's favorite s, mostly because of Bing Crosby singing it because he was one of her favorites Take care!

Think the author is simplifying the evolution of car designs quite a lot, the 93 and 96 have very few common parts. Just by comparison them side by side shows totally diffent roofline, rear window, front (including hood and fenders) door size and more. The Saab designer (Karl-Erik Sixten Sason) wanted to maintain the original look of the 93 through the 96 it being a Saab signature. Another "influence" is the global vehicle specific legal requirements evolving mandating lights (front/rear), safety requirements, and emissions. All of this influences and restricts vehicle manufacturers design. Another Swedish car manufacturer, Volvo, did exactly the same with their 140 and 240 series. Though being totally different vehicles beneath the exterior was kept as a signature or brand identification.

7:28 The three-cylinder two-stroke in '68 was 841 ccs, a bit over 51 cubic inches.

Hi all... just a few bits of info for you: The "Ursaab" 92 , number 001 that started SAAB's car manufacture was hand built, sheet metal was formed into a monocoque body that was also the safety cell, by men that built railway coaches and locomotives, if I remember right. The following models had replaceable fenders. Tom Donney is one of the best men that knows these SAABS. He drove one or more 2-stroke engined ones into the record books for speed, et al.

Who knows how many people were living a SAAB story in that car when it was in its prime?

the 96 has a backlight similar to the 1964 Barracuda. Looks notchy-er than the earlier models, which look somewhat like the early 356 Porsches from the side

Probably a wind deflector. The 900 had optional window surround deflectors and even one for the sun roof. All 900 sunroofs had a small integral wind deflector.

One of the quirky things about Saabs & I am npt sure if this model had it or not was the starter button & sometimes the ignition were placed between the front seats on the floor.

Scoop by quarter window is for interior ventilation exhaust.

The fact is that when the V4-engine was launched in 1967, the two-stroke engines quickly became extremely obsolete even though it was still possible to buy a 96/95 two-stroke until 1968. As a matter of fact, merely 28 new Saabs with two-stroke engines were sold in Sweden in 1968 and only one of these is still in traffic today. So it would definitely be very interesting to know how many 1968 two-strokes that are still in existence in the US!

I had an 11- year ol Saab 96 as my first car.

1959 Romero . The Saab kooks like something the Muppets would be riding in and pee wee driving ! Hope you feel better soon !

I would love to have a two stroke Saab.

Erik Carlsson. Born in Trollhattan! Same as the cars. Re-nowned rally driver. The bins next to your legs would be map cases. At least was always my thinking. And all Saab owners had a special affinity for their looks. But Saab Man Rick here in Oregon said cops would ticket because they thought they were ugly. Heh.

Hey Jay, what an odd motorcycle engine. 2T 750 cubic centimetre, water cooled in line 3 cylinder. The only thing to quieten the buzzy engine would have been the water jackets. Though why SAAB didn't use air cooling beats me. The miserable winters would have presented challenges with a water jacket. VW got it to work with the engine in the rear, and theirs was in the front, so it should have been easier. I guess that Swedish thinking and engineering is unique, though. Their SAAB Grippen fighter, is so unconventional it shouldn't work, yet it is superior in so many ways to the western aircraft. I know that the SAAB racing/rallying team had a huge bear of a man, who consistently won rallies with a navigator, so many times in this model. It was almost magic, when you hold it up against its competition. As someone who rode motorcycles before driving cars, that engine would have been amazing with 3 carburettors, and the power figures would have gone up considerably, at the cost of fuel consumption though. I have ridden 2T bikes with the same or greater HP figures for between 350~500cc ranges. With the model changes not effecting sales in Sweden, I suspect the Swedes are a practical people, and it was great for what it needed to achieve. The models only needed to be dressed up to become a global seller, yet it was that which created their problems.

The song is Day After Day by Bad finger

My favorite is the 1964 2-stroke bull nose Monte Carlo 850

car I wanted in high school was a Saab 99 EMS sold 1974-1980

One unusual option available in 1963 is an automatic clutch even with a 3 speed synchromesh manual transmission.

SOUNDS LIKE A JUNIOR HIGH BOOK REPORT.

Saabs seem to have an almost cult-like following among some automobile owners. Personally, I've always found the cars kind of cute, quirky, and odd and usually associated with say, a Midwest university professor of medieval Irish history who attends wine and cheese tastings. I vote for the Alfa Romeo. I always did have a thing for tempermental Italians.

You got the Alfa Romeo's name right, Juliette, the last E is also pronounced. Italians. I love the shape of it, and for resale the Karmen Ghia is the best, however despite the absolute inherent beauty of the earlier Saab, the 4 stroke would be more convenient and offers more power, so that is my choice. Ever the pragmatist.

Gimmi a 93, please. Good for around town driving.

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Scenario 1, the 96. Scenario 2, none of the above. LOL... Back in the 70's, my cousins used to ice race (race cars on a frozen lake) and I would guess to say that 90% of the cars raced were Saab's. They'd be stripped down and these Mad Max looking spiked tires mounted on them. Interesting thing? Almost all of the were green.

Sounded like 1000 bumblebees coming down the street

LOL. Christmas Vacation!